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    From Dale@21:1/5 to Dale on Mon Jul 5 14:03:06 2021
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    On 7/5/2021 1:34 PM, Dale wrote:
    The Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation

    ... fails statistics for it results in above 100% outcome?

    Each "World" has a 100% outcome?

    The Transactional Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transactional_interpretation

    Relies on General Relativity and The Standard Particle Model of Physics ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model

    ... having congruence, which they don't yet?

    This leaves The Copenhagen The Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_interpretation

    ... and is the only one which recognizes "The Observer" in its place in science?



    The basics of Quantum Mechanics ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics

    ... ?

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 5 13:34:52 2021
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    The Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation

    ... fails statistics for it results in above 100% outcome?

    Each "World" has a 100% outcome?

    The Transactional Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transactional_interpretation

    Relies on General Relativity and The Standard Particle Model of Physics ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model

    ... having congruence, which they don't yet?

    This leaves The Copenhagen The Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_interpretation

    ... and is the only one which recognizes "The Observer" in its place in science?


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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Dale on Mon Jul 5 11:33:33 2021
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    In article <sbvfrs$ac3$[email protected]>,
    Dale <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics ...

    The word here is 'interpretation'. QM is the science; the
    interpretations are not science. It's not enough that QM works;
    people need a untestable rationalisation of why it works. You can
    ignore any interpretation you don't like.

    Relies on General Relativity and The Standard Particle Model of Physics ...

    Yes, GR and QM are not compatiable. Everyone knows this. Nobody
    yet has a good proposal to reconcile them.

    Also https://chandra.harvard.edu/blog/node/558 Quantum foam
    should a slight effect on photon speed based on wavelength over
    billions of light years, but photon speed appears invariant.

    Also if spacetime is quantised, or just denumerable, we lose the
    intermediate value theorem and calculus. Without calculus the
    differential geometry vital to GR disappears.

    This leaves The Copenhagen The Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics ...

    And an interpretation is still not science.

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Mon Jul 5 14:47:18 2021
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    On 7/5/2021 2:33 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <sbvfrs$ac3$[email protected]>,
    Dale <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics ...

    The word here is 'interpretation'. QM is the science; the
    interpretations are not science. It's not enough that QM works;
    people need a untestable rationalisation of why it works. You can
    ignore any interpretation you don't like.

    Relies on General Relativity and The Standard Particle Model of Physics ...

    Yes, GR and QM are not compatiable. Everyone knows this. Nobody
    yet has a good proposal to reconcile them.

    Also https://chandra.harvard.edu/blog/node/558 Quantum foam
    should a slight effect on photon speed based on wavelength over
    billions of light years, but photon speed appears invariant.

    Also if spacetime is quantised, or just denumerable, we lose the
    intermediate value theorem and calculus. Without calculus the
    differential geometry vital to GR disappears.

    This leaves The Copenhagen The Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics ...

    And an interpretation is still not science.


    neither of the three are testable yet?

    interpretations are all there is to work with?

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Dale on Mon Jul 5 12:04:07 2021
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    In article <sbvk3l$771$[email protected]>,
    Dale <[email protected]> wrote:

    And an interpretation is still not science.


    neither of the three are testable yet?

    Not by scientific method. You can do calculation to determine
    they might be possible, but you cannot test if they are
    impossible. So don't get your knickers in a twist.

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Mon Jul 5 15:42:59 2021
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    On 7/5/2021 3:04 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <sbvk3l$771$[email protected]>,
    Dale <[email protected]> wrote:

    And an interpretation is still not science.


    neither of the three are testable yet?

    Not by scientific method. You can do calculation to determine
    they might be possible, but you cannot test if they are
    impossible. So don't get your knickers in a twist.


    you cannot test either way?

    it is universal?

    therefore it requires full deduction or full induction to have a
    testable hypothesis? a theory?

    Many Worlds does not pass full deduction?



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