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    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to dale on Sat Nov 30 16:59:24 2019
    XPost: free.metaphysics, alt.religion.buddhism, alt.religion.hindu
    XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Nov 27, 2019, dale wrote
    (in article<[email protected]>):

    What are the metaphysics that explain suffering and an ending of
    suffering.

    Suffering is a sign that if possible within your moral guidelines
    that you need to change something to eliminate or minimize
    the suffering. For example if you experience pain when you
    place your hand near a hot stove, you should move your
    hand away. And that applies both to your own suffering and
    the suffering of others (i.e. you may be able to change something
    to eliminate or minimize the suffering of others).

    --
    David Dalton [email protected] http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “‘Early morning jubilators/Up to no good instigators.../Sons of long forgotten races/That the darkest night embraces.” (Hynes/O'Doherty)

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  • From dale@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 30 16:56:51 2019
    XPost: free.metaphysics, alt.religion.buddhism, alt.religion.hindu
    XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 16:59:24 -0330, David Dalton <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Nov 27, 2019, dale wrote
    (in article<[email protected]>):

    What are the metaphysics that explain suffering and an ending of
    suffering.

    Suffering is a sign that if possible within your moral guidelines
    that you need to change something to eliminate or minimize
    the suffering. For example if you experience pain when you
    place your hand near a hot stove, you should move your
    hand away. And that applies both to your own suffering and
    the suffering of others (i.e. you may be able to change something
    to eliminate or minimize the suffering of others).

    What about whole populations that suffer do to poverty,etc.?

    I know The Buddha, in the four nobel truths says suffering is rooted
    in craving ... could this be related to "the human condition"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_condition#Some_perspectives



    --
    Dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/

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  • From Surrender the Name@21:1/5 to dale on Wed Dec 4 07:41:00 2019
    XPost: free.metaphysics, alt.religion.buddhism, alt.religion.hindu
    XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 11/30/2019 3:56 PM, dale wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 16:59:24 -0330, David Dalton <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Nov 27, 2019, dale wrote
    (in article<[email protected]>):

    What are the metaphysics that explain suffering and an ending of
    suffering.

    Suffering is a sign that if possible within your moral guidelines
    that you need to change something to eliminate or minimize
    the suffering. For example if you experience pain when you
    place your hand near a hot stove, you should move your
    hand away. And that applies both to your own suffering and
    the suffering of others (i.e. you may be able to change something
    to eliminate or minimize the suffering of others).

    What about whole populations that suffer do to poverty,etc.?

    There are basic human needs; air, water, food, sleep. Then also
    consider that death impending is not an enemy but a friend, the
    ultimate answer to suffering, and the ultimate end to that suffering,
    yet death is not death, but a step up in evolution and consciousness.




    I know The Buddha, in the four nobel truths says suffering is rooted
    in craving ... could this be related to "the human condition"?

    I would say yes. Not everyone is able to detach themselves from
    the basic needs that keep the body alive.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_condition#Some_perspectives




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  • From Rod@21:1/5 to dale on Sun Jan 30 19:52:54 2022
    XPost: free.metaphysics, alt.religion.buddhism, alt.religion.hindu
    XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 11/30/2019 3:56 PM, dale wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 16:59:24 -0330, David Dalton <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Nov 27, 2019, dale wrote
    (in article<[email protected]>):

    What are the metaphysics that explain suffering and an ending of
    suffering.

    Suffering is a sign that if possible within your moral guidelines
    that you need to change something to eliminate or minimize
    the suffering. For example if you experience pain when you
    place your hand near a hot stove, you should move your
    hand away. And that applies both to your own suffering and
    the suffering of others (i.e. you may be able to change something
    to eliminate or minimize the suffering of others).

    What about whole populations that suffer do to poverty,etc.?

    I know The Buddha, in the four nobel truths says suffering is rooted
    in craving ... could this be related to "the human condition"?


    Craving, wanting and many times need, but ones life does not depend
    on wanting or craving as it does with need.

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