• It's Not Pride Month, It's Envy Month

    From useapen@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 27 07:29:31 2025
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    Pride is as of yet the only one of the Seven Deadly Sins to get a whole
    month dedicated to celebrating it, but the recent election in New York
    City provides a strong case for renaming June, as almost spent as it is,
    not Pride Month, but Envy Month. After all, Zohran Mamdani, who was just
    voted Most Likely to Be the Next Mayor of New York, is a member (like his friend Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) of the Democratic Socialists of America.
    And that is one of Mamdani�s least radical associations. It looks as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf the nation�s largest
    city.

    Mamdani made it clear that he is way beyond Democratic Socialists
    territory four and a half years ago. On Dec. 25, 2020, the Communist Party
    of India in that country�s Puducherry territory, which adds the helping clarifying term �Marxist� to its name in parentheses, just in case there
    was any doubt about whether they�re for gulags and the knock on the door
    at four a.m., posted praise on what was then known as Twitter for the
    youthful Marxist mayor of the city of Thiruvananthapuram in Kerala:
    �Comrade Arya Rajendran, age 21 new Mayor of Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala.
    She will be the youngest mayor of a major city in the world. Here she
    leads a detachment of Red Volunteers in @CPIMKerala. #CPIM
    #LeftAlternative #Communist.�

    In one of the two accompanying photos, Comrade Rajendran stares
    determinedly ahead while clutching a pole as if it were a rifle, looking
    for all the world like her Marxist comrades in Chinese Communist Party propaganda dating from the heady days of the Cultural Revolution, on her
    way to a struggle session to reveal the dangerous ideological deviations
    of the class enemy.

    Mamdani presented this tweet from the Communist Party of India (Marxist) Puducherry State with this comment: �them: so what kind of mayor does nyc
    need right now? me:� Then followed the Commies� tweet. So Mamdani was
    saying that what the City That Never Sleeps really needs is a Communist
    mayor, and the mind reels at the fact that this was not enough of a big
    deal to prevent him from running for mayor as a candidate of the
    Democratic Party. So the Democrats evidently have no problem with open
    Marxists now, and the politics of envy, which not just Mamdani but Bernie
    and AOC and a host of others have made the centerpiece of their program,
    is fast becoming its guiding principle.

    Socialism and Communism are, at heart, nothing but envy. Someone works
    harder than I do, or is more talented than I am, or knows all the right
    people. And so someone has more than I do, and I want to even the score. I could work harder, and labor in particular to develop the talents I need
    to get ahead in my chosen field, or try to make the acquaintance of the
    people I think I need to know. Yet the harsh facts of life will still
    likely confront me: someone else is always going to have more, do better,
    be more accomplished, be better known.

    I can accept this as a fact of life: all men are created equal in dignity
    and worth, but not equal in abilities or anything else. I can accept this
    and be grateful for what I do have, or I can fall into envy, and begin to
    hate others for excelling where I did not.

    Socialism and Communism take that envy, which used to be widely recognized
    as something to be shunned, as it sucks all the joy out of life, and makes
    it a virtue. A righteous person sees Elon Musk and admires him for his industry, his imagination, his daring, and his vision. An envious person
    sees him, even before he got mixed up with Orange Man Bad, and wonders why
    he has so much money. A socialist or a Communist will answer that it�s
    because of inherent and systemic inequities and injustices that have to be redressed by forced redistribution of goods, so that everyone will enjoy
    an equal share of the fruits of all of our labors. This is just envy
    dressed up in the clothes of �social justice,� which disguises the fact
    that it�s still just envy.

    If he becomes mayor and follows through on his promises of free grocery
    stores and the like, Zohran Mamdani will have to find someone who will pay
    for all the free stuff he is handing out to the envious and lazy (as well
    as, conceivably, a small number of the truly needy). Wealthy New Yorkers, rather than be taxed into penury, will simply pull up stakes and leave the city. Mamdani, like the East Germans, will have to build a wall around his
    city to keep the producers from fleeing, so they can be duly fleeced by
    the envious.

    A wall will most likely not be built. Instead, New York will become a crime-ridden hellhole that those who had means to do so have fled. Envy
    not only kills the soul; it kills societies. And now it has a chance to
    kill New York. Happy Envy Month!

    https://pjmedia.com/robert-spencer/2025/06/26/its-not-pride-month-its- envy-month-n4941214

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to useapen on Fri Jun 27 02:59:24 2025
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    useapen wrote:
    And that is one of Mamdani�s least radical associations. It looks as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf the nation�s largest city.


    How terrible if he is successful.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Fri Jun 27 15:07:42 2025
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    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103lq1r$30b2$1@dont- email.me:

    useapen wrote:
    And that is one of Mamdani�s least radical associations. It looks as if
    socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf the nation�s largest
    city.


    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even have to pay
    a percent or two more in taxes.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Jun 27 12:22:09 2025
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    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103mc3u$72pm$[email protected]...
    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103lq1r$30b2$1@dont- email.me:

    useapen wrote:
    And that is one of Mamdani's least radical associations. It looks as if
    socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf the nation's largest >>> city.


    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even have to pay
    a percent or two more in taxes.

    Well, since the top 10% pay the majority of taxes.. that would sound about right.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 27 12:28:06 2025
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    In news:103mc3u$72pm$[email protected], Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103lq1r$30b2$[email protected]:
    useapen wrote:

    And that is one of Mamdani�s least radical associations. It looks as if
    socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf the nation�s largest >>> city.

    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even have to pay
    a percent or two more in taxes.

    Nah, they'll just move.

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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Fri Jun 27 16:55:47 2025
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    On 6/27/2025 1:43 PM, Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    useapen wrote:

    A wall will most likely not be built. Instead, New York will become a
    crime-ridden hellhole that those who had means to do so have fled. Envy
    not only kills the soul; it kills societies. And now it has a chance to
    kill New York. Happy Envy Month!

    I don't see how establishing housing/medical/financial assistance will increase
    crime.  That's not the repercussion I think of when this avenue is explored.

    Social welfare expenditures in northern European countries have never led to an increase in crime.

    There are arguments against socialism.

    Social welfare expenditures are *not* socialism. Socialism is state ownership and operational control of the means of production. Relatively high taxation of income and spending the money on social welfare programs is *not* socialism. Calling social welfare expenditures "socialism" is the Big Lie of the American right wing.


    I've never heard 'crime' being included before.

    Right: because high social welfare expenditure does *not* lead to increases in crime.

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Fri Jun 27 21:36:57 2025
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    chine.bleu wrote:
    useapen wrote:
    And that is one of Mamdani’s least radical associations. It looks as if
    socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf the nation’s largest >> city.


    How terrible if he is successful.


    "Thou shalt not steal." - Exodus 20:15

    "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox,
    nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's." - Exodus 20:17

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to max headroom on Sat Jun 28 02:42:30 2025
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    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103msit$b9o6$[email protected]:

    In news:103mc3u$72pm$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103lq1r$30b2$[email protected]:
    useapen wrote:

    And that is one of Mamdani�s least radical associations. It looks
    as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf the
    nation�s largest city.

    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even have
    to pay a percent or two more in taxes.

    Nah, they'll just move.

    And then they won't be picking our pockets any longer.

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Sat Jun 28 00:08:26 2025
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    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote:
    useapen wrote:
    And that is one of Mamdani’s least radical associations. It looks as if >>>> socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf the nation’s largest >>>> city.


    How terrible if he is successful.


    "Thou shalt not steal." - Exodus 20:15

    "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy
    neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox,
    nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's." - Exodus 20:17

    Billionaires don't covet millionaire tax dollars. They don't value our money in
    their wallet.

    Then stop giving them your money.

    They chew it up like a crappy brand of granola bar. A grifter like
    Elon Musk knows this.  That's probably why he let himself be removed from the
    administration.


    Musk is not a grifter.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 28 06:50:16 2025
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    In news:103nkql$jvp3$[email protected], Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103msit$b9o6$[email protected]:
    In news:103mc3u$72pm$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103lq1r$30b2$[email protected]:
    useapen wrote:

    And that is one of Mamdani�s least radical associations. It looks
    as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf the
    nation�s largest city.

    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even have
    to pay a percent or two more in taxes.

    Nah, they'll just move.

    And then they won't be picking our pockets any longer.

    Are you claiming to be a New Yorker now?

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Sat Jun 28 14:57:20 2025
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    Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103nprq$hccs$[email protected]:

    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote:
    useapen wrote:
    And that is one of Mamdani’s least radical associations. It
    looks as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf
    the nation’s largest city.


    How terrible if he is successful.


    "Thou shalt not steal." - Exodus 20:15

    "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet
    thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor
    his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's." -
    Exodus 20:17

    Billionaires don't covet millionaire tax dollars. They don't value
    our money in their wallet.

    Then stop giving them your money.

    They chew it up like a crappy brand of granola bar. A grifter like
    Elon Musk knows this.  That's probably why he let himself be removed
    from the administration.


    Musk is not a grifter.


    tRump is a grifter, Muskrat is a thief.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to max headroom on Sat Jun 28 15:05:54 2025
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    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103orvm$snma$[email protected]:

    In news:103nkql$jvp3$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103msit$b9o6$[email protected]:
    In news:103mc3u$72pm$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103lq1r$30b2$[email protected]:
    useapen wrote:

    And that is one of Mamdani�s least radical associations. It looks
    as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf the
    nation�s largest city.

    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even have
    to pay a percent or two more in taxes.

    Nah, they'll just move.

    And then they won't be picking our pockets any longer.

    Are you claiming to be a New Yorker now?

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest of
    the country?

    People like you mistakenly think that just because the rich have a lot
    of money that they're not leaches. I say we'd be better off without the parasites. Tax them and they'll be at least somewhat useful to the
    community.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 28 17:52:29 2025
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    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�[email protected]> wrote in news:67806kpd55dnnuqrs3tpeffpq240utvnst@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuckin g.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest of
    the country?

    What does "morbidly rich" mean to you, LeRoy?

    ROFLMAO

    That you're dying of envy?


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding in venice
    aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of his workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and medicaid.

    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 28 10:56:56 2025
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    In news:103p0ch$tncr$[email protected], Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103orvm$snma$[email protected]:
    In news:103nkql$jvp3$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103msit$b9o6$[email protected]:
    In news:103mc3u$72pm$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103lq1r$30b2$[email protected]:
    useapen wrote:

    And that is one of Mamdani�s least radical associations. It looks >>>>>>> as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf the
    nation�s largest city.

    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even have
    to pay a percent or two more in taxes.

    Nah, they'll just move.

    And then they won't be picking our pockets any longer.

    Are you claiming to be a New Yorker now?

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest of
    the country?

    Of course not-- that's why they'll move!

    https://nypost.com/2025/06/25/business/luxury-real-estate-brokers-say-wealthy-new-yorkers-are-already-looking-to-flee-after-zohran-mamdanis-primary-win/

    So, are you claiming to be a New Yorker now, or are just your pockets in New York?

    People like you mistakenly think that just because the rich have a lot
    of money that they're not leaches....

    No, you're implying that the rich are leaches, I'm not that shallow.

    ... I say we'd be better off without the parasites. Tax them and they'll be at least somewhat useful to the community.

    It must be Envy Month.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to max headroom on Sat Jun 28 23:09:22 2025
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    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103pag1$10apa$[email protected]:

    In news:103p0ch$tncr$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103orvm$snma$[email protected]:
    In news:103nkql$jvp3$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103msit$b9o6$[email protected]:
    In news:103mc3u$72pm$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103lq1r$30b2$[email protected]:
    useapen wrote:

    And that is one of Mamdani�s least radical associations. It
    looks as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf >>>>>>>> the nation�s largest city.

    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even
    have to pay a percent or two more in taxes.

    Nah, they'll just move.

    And then they won't be picking our pockets any longer.

    Are you claiming to be a New Yorker now?

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest
    of the country?

    Of course not-- that's why they'll move!

    https://nypost.com/2025/06/25/business/luxury-real-estate-brokers-say-w ealthy-new-yorkers-are-already-looking-to-flee-after-zohran-mamdanis-pr imary-win/

    So, are you claiming to be a New Yorker now, or are just your pockets
    in New York?

    Your logic nuron is completely broken. Or perhaps you think NY is the
    only place the rich inhabit?


    People like you mistakenly think that just because the rich have a
    lot of money that they're not leaches....

    No, you're implying that the rich are leaches, I'm not that smart.

    fixed that for ya

    ... I say we'd be better off without the parasites. Tax them and
    they'll be at least somewhat useful to the community.

    It must be Envy Month.

    Do tell us why Bezos can afford multi-millions for yacht and wedding, but
    not pay his workers living wages.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Sat Jun 28 23:11:10 2025
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    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentö[email protected]>
    wrote in
    news:67806kpd55dnnuqrs3tpeffpq240utvnst@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocks
    uckin g.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest
    of the country?

    What does "morbidly rich" mean to you, LeRoy?

    ROFLMAO

    That you're dying of envy?


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding in
    venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of his
    workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and medicaid.

    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.


    Egads.

    It's a 50 million dollar wedding. Bezos has $231 billion dollars.
    This wedding cost 1/4600 of his wealth = 0.0002174 % of his savings.
    Equal to about a penny of yours?

    Bezos has higher ideals than Musk. I don't approve of your unilateral condemnation of billionaires.


    Then why can't he pay his workers a living wage?

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 28 23:22:57 2025
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    Klaus Schadenfreude the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding in
    venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of his
    workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and medicaid.

    "No citation means you're lying, you fucking lying Nazi pseudo-sage."
    Nazi Runt Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
    Message-ID: <QBz7Q.75661$[email protected]>

    Go ahead and document how many people he has killed.

    I didn't say he killed anybody - you drunken idiot slut.


    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.

    We know your only reason for hating Bezos is he makes more money in a
    day than you've managed to do in your entire, wasted life.

    Bezos doesn't pay taxes, and I have to support his workers because he
    refused to pay them a living wage.

    I have no problem with someone making more than I have, but he's a greedy parasite.

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  • From Hal@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 00:17:46 2025
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    On 28 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some news:103ovsg$tncr$[email protected]:

    Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103nprq$hccs$[email protected]:

    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote:
    useapen wrote:
    And that is one of Mamdani’s least radical associations. It
    looks as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf
    the nation’s largest city.


    How terrible if he is successful.


    "Thou shalt not steal." - Exodus 20:15

    "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet
    thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor
    his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's." -
    Exodus 20:17

    Billionaires don't covet millionaire tax dollars. They don't value
    our money in their wallet.

    Then stop giving them your money.

    They chew it up like a crappy brand of granola bar. A grifter like
    Elon Musk knows this.  That's probably why he let himself be removed
    from the administration.


    Musk is not a grifter.


    tRump is a grifter, Muskrat is a thief.

    Trump and Musk both pay their debts and taxes. How's your IRS tax lien
    coming along?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Sun Jun 29 01:21:17 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:mcbbvtFthvmU2 @mid.individual.net:

    Baxter wrote:
    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.
    @gmail.com>
    wrote in

    news:67806kpd55dnnuqrs3tpeffpq240utvnst@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocks
    uckin g.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the
    rest
    of the country?

    What does "morbidly rich" mean to you, LeRoy?

    ROFLMAO

    That you're dying of envy?


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding in
    venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of his
    workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and medicaid.

    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.


    Egads.

    It's a 50 million dollar wedding. Bezos has $231 billion dollars.
    This wedding cost 1/4600 of his wealth = 0.0002174 % of his savings.
    Equal to about a penny of yours?

    Bezos has higher ideals than Musk. I don't approve of your
    unilateral
    condemnation of billionaires.


    Then why can't he pay his workers a living wage?

    Because minimum wage work is not a key to society.


    When they first passed the Minimum Wage laws it WAS a key to society.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 01:29:05 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�[email protected]> wrote
    in
    news:7r016ktl5es240q3vrngr8md9cmi1cuvmj@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuck ing.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    Klaus Schadenfreude the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding in >>>>venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of his >>>>workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and medicaid.

    "No citation means you're lying, you fucking lying Nazi
    pseudo-sage." Nazi Runt Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
    Message-ID: <QBz7Q.75661$[email protected]>

    Go ahead and document how many people he has killed.

    I didn't say he killed anybody - you drunken idiot slut.

    Baxter proves he has no idea what the word "morbid" means.

    KKKlaun, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
    frightened to death of Rudy is also an ignoramus.

    ==========
    AI Overview
    The phrase "morbidly rich" isn't a standard, widely used dictionary term,
    but it combines "morbid" with "rich" to create a specific meaning
    .
    Here's a breakdown of the meaning:

    "Morbidly": This word implies something unhealthy or indicative of
    disease.
    "Rich": This means having a large amount of wealth or possessions.

    Therefore, "morbidly rich" can be interpreted to mean:

    Extremely or excessively rich, suggesting that the sheer amount of
    wealth is unhealthy, possibly for both the individual and society.
    Wealth that has negative or harmful consequences, whether for the
    person possessing it (e.g., leading to isolation, addiction, or illness)
    or for society as a whole (e.g., contributing to inequality and political influence).
    =========

    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.

    We know your only reason for hating Bezos is he makes more money in
    a day than you've managed to do in your entire, wasted life.

    Bezos doesn't pay taxes, and I have to support his workers because he >>refused to pay them a living wage.

    I have no problem with someone making more than I have, but he's a
    greedy parasite.

    You're a liar. Your SOLE issue with him is that he's rich-- and you're
    not.


    That's how YOU think - but others, including myself, have different
    values and thought processes. If it were envy, I'd be out buying lottery tickets all the time hoping to win a jackpot - but I don't have the
    slightest temptation.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Sun Jun 29 01:20:22 2025
    XPost: alt.june, or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.society.liberalism

    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103pag1$10apa$[email protected]:

    In news:103p0ch$tncr$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103orvm$snma$[email protected]:
    In news:103nkql$jvp3$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103msit$b9o6$[email protected]:
    In news:103mc3u$72pm$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103lq1r$30b2$[email protected]:
    useapen wrote:

    And that is one of Mamdani’s least radical associations. It >>>>>>>>>> looks as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to
    engulf the nation’s largest city.

    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even >>>>>>>> have to pay a percent or two more in taxes.

    Nah, they'll just move.

    And then they won't be picking our pockets any longer.

    Are you claiming to be a New Yorker now?

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest
    of the country?

    Of course not-- that's why they'll move!

    https://nypost.com/2025/06/25/business/luxury-real-estate-brokers-say
    -w
    ealthy-new-yorkers-are-already-looking-to-flee-after-zohran-mamdanis-
    pr imary-win/

    So, are you claiming to be a New Yorker now, or are just your
    pockets in New York?

    Your logic nuron is completely broken. Or perhaps you think NY is the
    only place the rich inhabit?


    People like you mistakenly think that just because the rich have a
    lot of money that they're not leaches....

    No, you're implying that the rich are leaches, I'm not that smart.

    fixed that for ya

    ... I say we'd be better off without the parasites. Tax them and
    they'll be at least somewhat useful to the community.

    It must be Envy Month.

    Do tell us why Bezos can afford multi-millions for yacht and wedding,
    but not pay his workers living wages.

    Because there is finite money. And I like it that way.


    You don't make any fucking sense whatever.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Hal on Sun Jun 29 01:33:25 2025
    XPost: alt.june, or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.society.liberalism

    Hal <[email protected]> wrote in news:103q0n9$kaaq$[email protected]:

    On 28 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some news:103ovsg$tncr$[email protected]:

    Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103nprq$hccs$[email protected]:

    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote:
    useapen wrote:
    And that is one of Mamdani’s least radical associations. It
    looks as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf
    the nation’s largest city.


    How terrible if he is successful.


    "Thou shalt not steal." - Exodus 20:15

    "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet
    thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor
    his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's." -
    Exodus 20:17

    Billionaires don't covet millionaire tax dollars. They don't value
    our money in their wallet.

    Then stop giving them your money.

    They chew it up like a crappy brand of granola bar. A grifter like
    Elon Musk knows this.  That's probably why he let himself be
    removed
    from the administration.


    Musk is not a grifter.


    tRump is a grifter, Muskrat is a thief.

    Trump and Musk both pay their debts and taxes. How's your IRS tax lien coming along?


    Do tell us about tRumps IRS tax audit turned out.

    ==========
    Tesla [Musk] Reported Zero Federal Income Tax on $2 Billion of U.S.
    Income in 2024

    https://itep.org/tesla-reported-zero-federal-income-tax-in-2024/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Sun Jun 29 01:41:15 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Klaus Schadenfreude the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding in
    venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of his
    workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and medicaid.

    "No citation means you're lying, you fucking lying Nazi
    pseudo-sage." Nazi Runt Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
    Message-ID: <QBz7Q.75661$[email protected]>

    Go ahead and document how many people he has killed.

    I didn't say he killed anybody - you drunken idiot slut.


    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.

    We know your only reason for hating Bezos is he makes more money in
    a day than you've managed to do in your entire, wasted life.

    Bezos doesn't pay taxes, and I have to support his workers because he
    refused to pay them a living wage.

    You're lying, Baxter. I just read that Bezos pays 1.1% flat tax.

    You did not read - you pulled from your ass - else you'd have posted a
    link.
    ==========
    In 2007, Jeff Bezos, then a multibillionaire and now the world�s richest
    man, did not pay a penny in federal income taxes. He achieved the feat
    again in 2011. https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never- before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax
    ==========

    But as far as that goes, 1.1% is a hell of a lot less percent than you
    pay.


    I have no problem with someone making more than I have, but he's a
    greedy parasite.

    You are a parasite for telling him how to spend his money. Land of the
    free, home of the brave, Baxter.

    You're an idiot. Nor do you know what a parasite is.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 06:53:34 2025
    XPost: alt.june, or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.society.liberalism

    In news:103psn1$14fuf$[email protected], Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103pag1$10apa$[email protected]:
    In news:103p0ch$tncr$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103orvm$snma$[email protected]:
    In news:103nkql$jvp3$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103msit$b9o6$[email protected]:
    In news:103mc3u$72pm$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103lq1r$30b2$[email protected]:
    useapen wrote:

    And that is one of Mamdani�s least radical associations. It
    looks as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf >>>>>>>>> the nation�s largest city.

    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even
    have to pay a percent or two more in taxes.

    Nah, they'll just move.

    And then they won't be picking our pockets any longer.

    Are you claiming to be a New Yorker now?

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest
    of the country?

    Of course not-- that's why they'll move!

    https://nypost.com/2025/06/25/business/luxury-real-estate-brokers-say-wealthy-new-yorkers-are-already-looking-to-flee-after-zohran-mamdanis-primary-win/

    So, are you claiming to be a New Yorker now, or are just your pockets
    in New York?

    Your logic nuron is completely broken....

    It's your ability to follow a thread that's been broken for quite a while.

    ... Or perhaps you think NY is the only place the rich inhabit?

    It's the only city discussed in this thread up to this point. You claimed that the rich wouldn't be picking your pocket if they left NYC. Try to keep up.

    People like you mistakenly think that just because the rich have a
    lot of money that they're not leaches....

    No, you're implying that the rich are leaches, I'm not that shallow.

    fixed that for ya

    ... I say we'd be better off without the parasites. Tax them and
    they'll be at least somewhat useful to the community.

    It must be Envy Month.

    Do tell us why Bezos can afford multi-millions for yacht and wedding, but
    not pay his workers living wages.

    Says who?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Sun Jun 29 15:47:38 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:mcc82hF3ek4U1 @mid.individual.net:

    Baxter wrote:
    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Klaus Schadenfreude the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding in
    venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of his >>>>>> workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and medicaid.

    "No citation means you're lying, you fucking lying Nazi
    pseudo-sage." Nazi Runt Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
    Message-ID: <QBz7Q.75661$[email protected]>

    Go ahead and document how many people he has killed.

    I didn't say he killed anybody - you drunken idiot slut.


    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.

    We know your only reason for hating Bezos is he makes more money in
    a day than you've managed to do in your entire, wasted life.

    Bezos doesn't pay taxes, and I have to support his workers because
    he
    refused to pay them a living wage.

    You're lying, Baxter. I just read that Bezos pays 1.1% flat tax.

    You did not read - you pulled from your ass - else you'd have posted a
    link.

    Baxter, you are retarded. I don't have to follow some list of
    checkpoints that you are also witness to.

    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 16:37:56 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�[email protected]> wrote
    in
    news:vb626kd7e97rfjg15q9p9asjh1uuvq2a3j@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuck ing.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�[email protected]>
    wrote
    in

    news:7r016ktl5es240q3vrngr8md9cmi1cuvmj@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuck >>ing.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    Klaus Schadenfreude the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>>chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding in >>>>>>venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of his >>>>>>workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and medicaid.

    "No citation means you're lying, you fucking lying Nazi
    pseudo-sage." Nazi Runt Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
    Message-ID: <QBz7Q.75661$[email protected]>

    Go ahead and document how many people he has killed.

    I didn't say he killed anybody - you drunken idiot slut.

    Baxter proves he has no idea what the word "morbid" means.

    KKKlaun, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is >>frightened to death of Rudy is also an ignoramus.

    Uh oh, it looks like I shorted out Baxter!

    ROFLMAO!!!

    So why did you snip the definition of "morbidly rich" that I provided?
    Because it showed how much an drunken idiot you are? And how you reply to
    Scut?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 13:05:20 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    % wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    Praetor prates.

    --
    Morton's Law:
    If rats are experimented upon, they will develop cancer.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Sun Jun 29 19:40:46 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:mcd6c3F8a6rU1 @mid.individual.net:

    Baxter wrote:
    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:mcc82hF3ek4U1
    @mid.individual.net:

    Baxter wrote:
    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Klaus Schadenfreude the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding
    in
    venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of
    his
    workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and
    medicaid.

    "No citation means you're lying, you fucking lying Nazi
    pseudo-sage." Nazi Runt Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
    Message-ID: <QBz7Q.75661$[email protected]>

    Go ahead and document how many people he has killed.

    I didn't say he killed anybody - you drunken idiot slut.


    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.

    We know your only reason for hating Bezos is he makes more money
    in
    a day than you've managed to do in your entire, wasted life.

    Bezos doesn't pay taxes, and I have to support his workers because
    he
    refused to pay them a living wage.

    You're lying, Baxter. I just read that Bezos pays 1.1% flat tax.

    You did not read - you pulled from your ass - else you'd have posted
    a
    link.

    Baxter, you are retarded. I don't have to follow some list of
    checkpoints that you are also witness to.

    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    No, bitch. You stupid motherfucker. I don't need to post a link to say
    that Bezos is taxed. That's your modus operandus because you're a
    bloody
    liar Baxter. Every post you make has to salvage your credibility out of
    the moral bankruptcy it marinates in before Governor Swill will take
    you
    seriously.


    You claimed he pays 1.1% flat tax. That's bullshit. I even posted a
    reference that showed he paid zero taxes some years.

    You're the morally bankrupt liar.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Sun Jun 29 15:47:42 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Praetor Mandrake wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    % wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    Praetor prates.

    Chris has poor grammar:

    "The Praetor prates."

    "Mandrake prates."

    Definitions from Oxford Languages
    prae·tor /ˈprēdər/
    noun Roman History
    Each of two ancient Roman magistrates ranking below consul.

    I'll be teaching you some more over the next several days. Listening to
    Chris is like gargling broken glass. I am defeated by his varacity.

    "varacity"?

    Prate on. Your prattle amuses us.

    --
    Not valid with other offers or specials.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 19:52:47 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�[email protected]> wrote
    in
    news:tvu26k9rr76sp13e8tb63mjnh95gn79dna@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuck ing.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�[email protected]>
    wrote in >>news:vb626kd7e97rfjg15q9p9asjh1uuvq2a3j@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksu
    ck ing.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�[email protected]>
    wrote
    in

    news:7r016ktl5es240q3vrngr8md9cmi1cuvmj@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksu
    ck
    ing.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    Klaus Schadenfreude the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>>>>chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding >>>>>>>>in venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% >>>>>>>>of his workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and >>>>>>>>medicaid.

    "No citation means you're lying, you fucking lying Nazi
    pseudo-sage." Nazi Runt Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
    Message-ID: <QBz7Q.75661$[email protected]>

    Go ahead and document how many people he has killed.

    I didn't say he killed anybody - you drunken idiot slut.

    Baxter proves he has no idea what the word "morbid" means.

    KKKlaun, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is >>>>frightened to death of Rudy is also an ignoramus.

    Uh oh, it looks like I shorted out Baxter!

    ROFLMAO!!!

    So why did you snip the definition of "morbidly rich" that I provided?
    Because it showed how much an drunken idiot you are? And how you
    reply to Scut?

    I'm STILL waiting for a Message ID. How come you can't provide it? Is
    it beyond your technical abilities?

    Or did you just figure out how Rudy conned you?

    Why should I care whether it's this personality or a different
    personality? You're an asshole regardless what nym you post under.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Sun Jun 29 13:32:42 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Praetor Mandrake wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    % wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    Praetor prates.

    Chris has poor grammar:

    "The Praetor prates."

    "Mandrake prates."

    Definitions from Oxford Languages
    prae·tor /ˈprēdər/
    noun Roman History
    Each of two ancient Roman magistrates ranking below consul.

    I'll be teaching you some more over the next several days. Listening to
    Chris is like gargling broken glass. I am defeated by his varacity.

    "varacity"?

    From 'variable'. Highly varying in lexicon adherence.


    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Sun Jun 29 15:29:43 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    On 6/29/2025 2:13 PM, Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote:
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Praetor Mandrake wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    % wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    Praetor prates.

    Chris has poor grammar:

    "The Praetor prates."

    "Mandrake prates."

         Definitions from Oxford Languages
         prae·tor /ˈprēdər/
         noun Roman History
         Each of two ancient Roman magistrates ranking below consul.

    I'll be teaching you some more over the next several days. Listening to >>>> Chris is like gargling broken glass. I am defeated by his varacity.

    "varacity"?

     From 'variable'. Highly varying in lexicon adherence.



    Maybe so. I learned a new word in English today: 'basin'. I've heard it before
    but today I needed to name an object which turned out to be a basin. Did you learn any five letter words today?

    You can't be serious about only learning the word 'basin' today; maybe you mean you learned a new meaning of it. You seem too old — not old as in a graybeard,
    just older — and too obviously literate and articulate for that to be possible.
    Be that as it may, it reminds me of a good joke I saw several weeks back:

    A young man who has never had a proper job finally gets one as a doorman at a nice hotel.

    On his first day, he arrives in uniform very nervous and serious. He opens the door, greets guests and visitors with a smile, closes the door behind them. He does everything admirably.

    In the afternoon, something bizarre happens. A single bathroom basin, standing on a short pedestal, with a hot and cold water taps but no apparent source of plumbing, appears outside the door.

    Nervous, the new doorman approaches his manager. “What should I do?" he asks, “It’s just standing there.”

    The manager looks at him gravely, his eyes stern, but still kind with wisdom. “Young man, I know this is your first real job, and things may be a bit overwhelming to you at times. But some things — well, they’re simpler than they
    seem.” He nods towards the door.

    “You have a responsibility now. Let that sink in.”

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Border Bandits@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 30 01:13:06 2025
    XPost: alt.june, or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.society.liberalism

    On 28 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some news:103psn1$14fuf$[email protected]:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103pag1$10apa$[email protected]:

    In news:103p0ch$tncr$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103orvm$snma$[email protected]:
    In news:103nkql$jvp3$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103msit$b9o6$[email protected]:
    In news:103mc3u$72pm$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103lq1r$30b2$[email protected]:
    useapen wrote:

    And that is one of Mamdani’s least radical associations. It >>>>>>>>> looks as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to
    engulf the nation’s largest city.

    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even
    have to pay a percent or two more in taxes.

    Nah, they'll just move.

    And then they won't be picking our pockets any longer.

    Are you claiming to be a New Yorker now?

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest
    of the country?

    Of course not-- that's why they'll move!

    https://nypost.com/2025/06/25/business/luxury-real-estate-brokers-say-
    w
    ealthy-new-yorkers-are-already-looking-to-flee-after-zohran-mamdanis-p
    r imary-win/

    So, are you claiming to be a New Yorker now, or are just your pockets
    in New York?

    Your logic nuron is completely broken. Or perhaps you think NY is the
    only place the rich inhabit?


    People like you mistakenly think that just because the rich have a
    lot of money that they're not leaches....

    No, you're implying that the rich are leaches, I'm not that smart.

    fixed that for ya

    ... I say we'd be better off without the parasites. Tax them and
    they'll be at least somewhat useful to the community.

    It must be Envy Month.

    Do tell us why Bezos can afford multi-millions for yacht and wedding,
    but not pay his workers living wages.

    "Amazon warehouse workers in California earn an average of $19.82 per
    hour, which is 23% above the national average, according to Indeed. The
    average pay for customer fulfillment and operations roles is over $22 per
    hour, with total compensation, including benefits, reaching more than $29
    per hour."

    That's pretty good for box kickers who have most of their work done for
    them by automation anyway. Warehouse jobs shouldn't be considered career employment. Anybody can do it and there is high turnover.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Mon Jun 30 00:36:10 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    On 2025-06-29, Chris Ahlstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
    Praetor Mandrake wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    % wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    Praetor prates.

    Chris has poor grammar:

    "The Praetor prates."

    "Mandrake prates."

    Definitions from Oxford Languages
    prae·tor /ˈprēdər/
    noun Roman History
    Each of two ancient Roman magistrates ranking below consul.

    I'll be teaching you some more over the next several days. Listening to
    Chris is like gargling broken glass. I am defeated by his varacity.

    "varacity"?

    Prate on. Your prattle amuses us.

    Does your wife still keep you on an allowance Chris?
    Do you still have to beg her to purchase computer parts like a UPS for example?

    That's the beauty of Usenet!
    It never forgets.


    --
    "No Kings" Protests.....
    Brought to you by the party who anointed
    Kamala to be their candidate w/o a single vote....

    Let *that* sink in.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Border Bandits on Mon Jun 30 01:02:19 2025
    XPost: alt.june, or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.society.liberalism

    Border Bandits <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On 28 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some news:103psn1$14fuf$[email protected]:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103pag1$10apa$[email protected]:

    In news:103p0ch$tncr$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103orvm$snma$[email protected]:
    In news:103nkql$jvp3$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103msit$b9o6$[email protected]:
    In news:103mc3u$72pm$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103lq1r$30b2$[email protected]:
    useapen wrote:

    And that is one of Mamdani’s least radical associations. It >>>>>>>>>> looks as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to
    engulf the nation’s largest city.

    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even >>>>>>>> have to pay a percent or two more in taxes.

    Nah, they'll just move.

    And then they won't be picking our pockets any longer.

    Are you claiming to be a New Yorker now?

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest
    of the country?

    Of course not-- that's why they'll move!

    https://nypost.com/2025/06/25/business/luxury-real-estate-brokers-say
    - w
    ealthy-new-yorkers-are-already-looking-to-flee-after-zohran-mamdanis-
    p r imary-win/

    So, are you claiming to be a New Yorker now, or are just your
    pockets in New York?

    Your logic nuron is completely broken. Or perhaps you think NY is the
    only place the rich inhabit?


    People like you mistakenly think that just because the rich have a
    lot of money that they're not leaches....

    No, you're implying that the rich are leaches, I'm not that smart.

    fixed that for ya

    ... I say we'd be better off without the parasites. Tax them and
    they'll be at least somewhat useful to the community.

    It must be Envy Month.

    Do tell us why Bezos can afford multi-millions for yacht and wedding,
    but not pay his workers living wages.

    "Amazon warehouse workers in California earn an average of $19.82 per
    hour, which is 23% above the national average, according to Indeed.
    The average pay for customer fulfillment and operations roles is over
    $22 per hour, with total compensation, including benefits, reaching
    more than $29 per hour."

    That's pretty good for box kickers who have most of their work done
    for them by automation anyway. Warehouse jobs shouldn't be considered
    career employment. Anybody can do it and there is high turnover.

    ================
    AI Overview
    A significant portion of Amazon warehouse workers rely on public
    assistance programs like food stamps and Medicaid. A recent study by the
    Center for Urban Economic Development found that 33% of Amazon warehouse employees rely on these programs. This reliance on public assistance is
    despite Amazon raising its minimum wage to $15 per hour in 2018, and subsequently to an average of $20.50 per hour, with additional benefits.

    The study also revealed that 53% of workers experienced food insecurity
    and 48% experienced housing insecurity in the previous three months.
    The study's findings indicate that while Amazon has increased wages, many workers still struggle to afford basic necessities. This leads to a
    situation where taxpayers are essentially subsidizing Amazon's labor
    costs through public assistance programs. The study also highlights that
    the cost of living, particularly for food and housing, has increased significantly, outpacing wage increases for many Amazon employees.

    ============

    You got that? 53% of Amazon workers experience food insecurity. 33% rely
    on Public Assistance programs - paid by taxpayers.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Stuart Fowler@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 30 06:54:26 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    On 29 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some news:103s4rt$1mgdn$[email protected]:

    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:mcd6c3F8a6rU1 @mid.individual.net:

    Baxter wrote:
    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:mcc82hF3ek4U1 @mid.individual.net:

    Baxter wrote:
    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Klaus Schadenfreude the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding
    in
    venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of
    his
    workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and
    medicaid.

    "No citation means you're lying, you fucking lying Nazi
    pseudo-sage." Nazi Runt Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
    Message-ID: <QBz7Q.75661$[email protected]>

    Go ahead and document how many people he has killed.

    I didn't say he killed anybody - you drunken idiot slut.


    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.

    We know your only reason for hating Bezos is he makes more
    money
    in
    a day than you've managed to do in your entire, wasted life.

    Bezos doesn't pay taxes, and I have to support his workers
    because
    he
    refused to pay them a living wage.

    You're lying, Baxter. I just read that Bezos pays 1.1% flat tax.

    You did not read - you pulled from your ass - else you'd have
    posted
    a
    link.

    Baxter, you are retarded. I don't have to follow some list of
    checkpoints that you are also witness to.

    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    No, bitch. You stupid motherfucker. I don't need to post a link to
    say that Bezos is taxed. That's your modus operandus because you're a
    bloody
    liar Baxter. Every post you make has to salvage your credibility out
    of the moral bankruptcy it marinates in before Governor Swill will
    take
    you
    seriously.


    You claimed he pays 1.1% flat tax. That's bullshit. I even posted a reference that showed he paid zero taxes some years.

    After deductions I myself pay minimal taxes, close to zero. There's
    nothing illegal or mystical about it. It's all in the tax code that
    applies to businesses. I also ensure I pay into a 401k and Social
    Security.

    What Democrat criminals want to do is to tax "takings" which are exempt.

    You're the morally bankrupt liar.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Delvin Benet@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 30 08:13:55 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    On 29 Jun 2025, Rudy Canoza <[email protected]> posted some news:q7j8Q.230212$[email protected]:

    On 6/29/2025 2:13 PM, Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote:
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Praetor Mandrake wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    % wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    Praetor prates.

    Chris has poor grammar:

    "The Praetor prates."

    "Mandrake prates."

         Definitions from Oxford Languages
         prae·tor /ˈprēdər/
         noun Roman History
         Each of two ancient Roman magistrates ranking below
    consul.

    I'll be teaching you some more over the next several days.
    Listening to Chris is like gargling broken glass. I am defeated by
    his varacity.

    "varacity"?

     From 'variable'. Highly varying in lexicon adherence.



    Maybe so. I learned a new word in English today: 'basin'. I've heard
    it before but today I needed to name an object which turned out to be
    a basin. Did you learn any five letter words today?

    You can't be serious about only learning the word 'basin' today; maybe
    you mean you learned a new meaning of it. You seem too old — not old as in a graybeard, just older — and too obviously literate and articulate for that to be possible. Be that as it may, it reminds me
    of a good joke I saw several weeks back:

    A young man who has never had a proper job finally gets one as a
    doorman at a nice hotel.

    On his first day, he arrives in uniform very nervous and serious. He
    opens the door, greets guests and visitors with a smile, closes the
    door behind them. He does everything admirably.

    In the afternoon, something bizarre happens. A single bathroom basin, standing on a short pedestal, with a hot and cold water taps but no
    apparent source of plumbing, appears outside the door.

    Nervous, the new doorman approaches his manager. “What should I do?"
    he asks, “It’s just standing there.”

    The manager looks at him gravely, his eyes stern, but still kind with
    wisdom. “Young man, I know this is your first real job, and things
    may be a bit overwhelming to you at times. But some things — well, they’re simpler than they seem.” He nods towards the door.

    “You have a responsibility now. Let that sink in.”

    What do you call a Democrat who can't keep a secret?
    A blabbing loon.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Jun 30 09:44:15 2025
    XPost: alt.june, or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.society.liberalism

    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103p0ch$tncr$[email protected]...
    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103orvm$snma$[email protected]:

    In news:103nkql$jvp3$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103msit$b9o6$[email protected]:
    In news:103mc3u$72pm$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103lq1r$30b2$[email protected]:
    useapen wrote:

    And that is one of Mamdani's least radical associations. It looks >>>>>>> as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf the
    nation's largest city.

    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even have
    to pay a percent or two more in taxes.

    Nah, they'll just move.

    And then they won't be picking our pockets any longer.

    Are you claiming to be a New Yorker now?

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest of
    the country?

    People like you mistakenly think that just because the rich have a lot
    of money that they're not leaches. I say we'd be better off without the parasites. Tax them and they'll be at least somewhat useful to the community.

    Ok.. let's shut down every major food chain.. ever major industry.. every
    major employer... every major distributer...

    Tell us.. if we did as you suggest, could you even survive the consequences
    of imposing what you are calling for?

    No lights. No water. No food. No fuel. No jobs.

    Cities would cease to exist....

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Jun 30 10:05:39 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103pa4t$106eo$[email protected]...
    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�[email protected]> wrote
    in news:67806kpd55dnnuqrs3tpeffpq240utvnst@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuckin g.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest of >>>the country?

    What does "morbidly rich" mean to you, LeRoy?

    ROFLMAO

    That you're dying of envy?


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding in venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of his workers have
    to
    have taxpayer-supported food stamps and medicaid.

    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.

    I would call that envy... Besides, what better way to get him to spend that money and get it back into the hands of ordinary people.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Mon Jun 30 10:11:00 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    "Praetor Mandrake" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    Baxter wrote:
    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentö[email protected]> wrote
    in
    news:67806kpd55dnnuqrs3tpeffpq240utvnst@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuckin >> g.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest of >>>> the country?

    What does "morbidly rich" mean to you, LeRoy?

    ROFLMAO

    That you're dying of envy?


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding in venice
    aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of his workers have
    to
    have taxpayer-supported food stamps and medicaid.

    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.


    Egads.

    It's a 50 million dollar wedding. Bezos has $231 billion dollars. This wedding cost 1/4600 of his wealth = 0.0002174 % of his savings. Equal to about a penny of yours?

    Bezos has higher ideals than Musk. I don't approve of your unilateral condemnation of billionaires.

    And consider how many people profited by this wedding... Shipbuilders,
    welders, engineers, labors, waiters, cooks, maids, cleaning staff, farmers, truckers,

    You know all those people who ended up getting money because that ship was built... because that wedding was held..

    Which they wouldn’t have gotten if he were denied being able to spend his money.

    Further I would point out that most of the $231 billion is in stocks and
    bonds which allow businesses to operate, which allows people to borrow
    money, which allows people to start, run, expand their business. His
    billions support a lot of people by providing them jobs.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Jun 30 10:15:27 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103q5jq$15snf$[email protected]...
    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Klaus Schadenfreude the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding in
    venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of his
    workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and medicaid.

    "No citation means you're lying, you fucking lying Nazi
    pseudo-sage." Nazi Runt Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
    Message-ID: <QBz7Q.75661$[email protected]>

    Go ahead and document how many people he has killed.

    I didn't say he killed anybody - you drunken idiot slut.


    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.

    We know your only reason for hating Bezos is he makes more money in
    a day than you've managed to do in your entire, wasted life.

    Bezos doesn't pay taxes, and I have to support his workers because he
    refused to pay them a living wage.

    You're lying, Baxter. I just read that Bezos pays 1.1% flat tax.

    You did not read - you pulled from your ass - else you'd have posted a
    link.
    ==========
    In 2007, Jeff Bezos, then a multibillionaire and now the world's richest
    man, did not pay a penny in federal income taxes. He achieved the feat
    again in 2011. https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never- before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax
    ==========

    Should be noted that not paying income tax does not mean he paid no tax.

    Just means he had no taxable income. Which frankly, if you're smart you take steps to minimize your own taxable income.

    .. or are you going to tell us you do nothing to lower your taxes.. and if
    so who's fault is that?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Jun 30 10:11:32 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103psqe$14fuf$[email protected]...
    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentö[email protected]>
    wrote in
    news:67806kpd55dnnuqrs3tpeffpq240utvnst@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocks
    uckin g.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest
    of the country?

    What does "morbidly rich" mean to you, LeRoy?

    ROFLMAO

    That you're dying of envy?


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding in
    venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of his
    workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and medicaid.

    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.


    Egads.

    It's a 50 million dollar wedding. Bezos has $231 billion dollars.
    This wedding cost 1/4600 of his wealth = 0.0002174 % of his savings.
    Equal to about a penny of yours?

    Bezos has higher ideals than Musk. I don't approve of your unilateral
    condemnation of billionaires.


    Then why can't he pay his workers a living wage?

    Name any Bezos employee that has starved to death.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 30 10:16:32 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    "Delvin Benet" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    On 29 Jun 2025, Rudy Canoza <[email protected]> posted some news:q7j8Q.230212$[email protected]:

    On 6/29/2025 2:13 PM, Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote:
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Praetor Mandrake wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    % wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    Praetor prates.

    Chris has poor grammar:

    "The Praetor prates."

    "Mandrake prates."

    �,� �,� �,� �,� Definitions from Oxford Languages
    �,� �,� �,� �,� prae�,·tor /�<�?pr�"�?od�?�"�r/
    �,� �,� �,� �,� noun Roman History
    �,� �,� �,� �,� Each of two ancient Roman magistrates ranking below >>>>> consul.

    I'll be teaching you some more over the next several days.
    Listening to Chris is like gargling broken glass. I am defeated by >>>>>> his varacity.

    "varacity"?

    �,� From 'variable'. Highly varying in lexicon adherence.



    Maybe so. I learned a new word in English today: 'basin'. I've heard
    it before but today I needed to name an object which turned out to be
    a basin. Did you learn any five letter words today?

    You can't be serious about only learning the word 'basin' today; maybe
    you mean you learned a new meaning of it. You seem too old â�,��?� not
    old
    as in a graybeard, just older â�,��?� and too obviously literate and
    articulate for that to be possible. Be that as it may, it reminds me
    of a good joke I saw several weeks back:

    A young man who has never had a proper job finally gets one as a
    doorman at a nice hotel.

    On his first day, he arrives in uniform very nervous and serious. He
    opens the door, greets guests and visitors with a smile, closes the
    door behind them. He does everything admirably.

    In the afternoon, something bizarre happens. A single bathroom basin,
    standing on a short pedestal, with a hot and cold water taps but no
    apparent source of plumbing, appears outside the door.

    Nervous, the new doorman approaches his manager. â�,��"What should I
    do?"
    he asks, â�,��"Itâ�,��"�s just standing there.â�,�

    The manager looks at him gravely, his eyes stern, but still kind with
    wisdom. â�,��"Young man, I know this is your first real job, and things
    may be a bit overwhelming to you at times. But some things â�,��?� well,
    theyâ�,��"�re simpler than they seem.â�,� He nods towards the door.

    â�,��"You have a responsibility now. Let that sink in.â�,�

    What do you call a Democrat who can't keep a secret?

    A reliable source.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Jun 30 10:24:17 2025
    XPost: alt.june, or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.society.liberalism

    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103snmq$1q0jv$[email protected]...
    Border Bandits <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On 28 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:103psn1$14fuf$[email protected]:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103pag1$10apa$[email protected]:

    In news:103p0ch$tncr$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103orvm$snma$[email protected]:
    In news:103nkql$jvp3$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103msit$b9o6$[email protected]:
    In news:103mc3u$72pm$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103lq1r$30b2$[email protected]:
    useapen wrote:

    And that is one of Mamdani�?Ts least radical associations. It >>>>>>>>>>> looks as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to >>>>>>>>>>> engulf the nation�?Ts largest city.

    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even >>>>>>>>> have to pay a percent or two more in taxes.

    Nah, they'll just move.

    And then they won't be picking our pockets any longer.

    Are you claiming to be a New Yorker now?

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest
    of the country?

    Of course not-- that's why they'll move!

    https://nypost.com/2025/06/25/business/luxury-real-estate-brokers-say
    - w
    ealthy-new-yorkers-are-already-looking-to-flee-after-zohran-mamdanis-
    p r imary-win/

    So, are you claiming to be a New Yorker now, or are just your
    pockets in New York?

    Your logic nuron is completely broken. Or perhaps you think NY is the
    only place the rich inhabit?


    People like you mistakenly think that just because the rich have a
    lot of money that they're not leaches....

    No, you're implying that the rich are leaches, I'm not that smart.

    fixed that for ya

    ... I say we'd be better off without the parasites. Tax them and
    they'll be at least somewhat useful to the community.

    It must be Envy Month.

    Do tell us why Bezos can afford multi-millions for yacht and wedding,
    but not pay his workers living wages.

    "Amazon warehouse workers in California earn an average of $19.82 per
    hour, which is 23% above the national average, according to Indeed.
    The average pay for customer fulfillment and operations roles is over
    $22 per hour, with total compensation, including benefits, reaching
    more than $29 per hour."

    That's pretty good for box kickers who have most of their work done
    for them by automation anyway. Warehouse jobs shouldn't be considered
    career employment. Anybody can do it and there is high turnover.

    ================
    AI Overview
    A significant portion of Amazon warehouse workers rely on public
    assistance programs like food stamps and Medicaid. A recent study by the Center for Urban Economic Development found that 33% of Amazon warehouse employees rely on these programs. This reliance on public assistance is despite Amazon raising its minimum wage to $15 per hour in 2018, and subsequently to an average of $20.50 per hour, with additional benefits.

    The study also revealed that 53% of workers experienced food insecurity
    and 48% experienced housing insecurity in the previous three months.
    The study's findings indicate that while Amazon has increased wages, many workers still struggle to afford basic necessities. This leads to a
    situation where taxpayers are essentially subsidizing Amazon's labor
    costs through public assistance programs. The study also highlights that
    the cost of living, particularly for food and housing, has increased significantly, outpacing wage increases for many Amazon employees.

    ============

    You got that? 53% of Amazon workers experience food insecurity. 33% rely
    on Public Assistance programs - paid by taxpayers.

    So.. we need to make sure they pay income tax?

    I mean after all, you're on record as saying those that don't pay income tax are bad people.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Jun 30 10:17:55 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103s4rt$1mgdn$[email protected]...
    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:mcd6c3F8a6rU1 @mid.individual.net:

    Baxter wrote:
    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:mcc82hF3ek4U1
    @mid.individual.net:

    Baxter wrote:
    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Klaus Schadenfreude the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>
    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding
    in
    venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of
    his
    workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and
    medicaid.

    "No citation means you're lying, you fucking lying Nazi
    pseudo-sage." Nazi Runt Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
    Message-ID: <QBz7Q.75661$[email protected]>

    Go ahead and document how many people he has killed.

    I didn't say he killed anybody - you drunken idiot slut.


    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.

    We know your only reason for hating Bezos is he makes more money
    in
    a day than you've managed to do in your entire, wasted life.

    Bezos doesn't pay taxes, and I have to support his workers because
    he
    refused to pay them a living wage.

    You're lying, Baxter. I just read that Bezos pays 1.1% flat tax.

    You did not read - you pulled from your ass - else you'd have posted
    a
    link.

    Baxter, you are retarded. I don't have to follow some list of
    checkpoints that you are also witness to.

    Praetor says he's too retarded to know how to post a link.

    No, bitch. You stupid motherfucker. I don't need to post a link to say
    that Bezos is taxed. That's your modus operandus because you're a
    bloody
    liar Baxter. Every post you make has to salvage your credibility out of
    the moral bankruptcy it marinates in before Governor Swill will take
    you
    seriously.


    You claimed he pays 1.1% flat tax. That's bullshit. I even posted a reference that showed he paid zero taxes some years.

    Baxter claims that the only tax that exists is income tax. I would note that about 40% of the population pays no income tax.

    Should they also be made to do so?


    You're the morally bankrupt liar.

    Might mean a bit more if you weren't one yourself.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Jun 30 10:20:37 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103q4t0$15snf$[email protected]...
    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�[email protected]> wrote
    in
    news:7r016ktl5es240q3vrngr8md9cmi1cuvmj@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuck ing.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    Klaus Schadenfreude the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding in >>>>>venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of his >>>>>workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and medicaid.

    "No citation means you're lying, you fucking lying Nazi
    pseudo-sage." Nazi Runt Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
    Message-ID: <QBz7Q.75661$[email protected]>

    Go ahead and document how many people he has killed.

    I didn't say he killed anybody - you drunken idiot slut.

    Baxter proves he has no idea what the word "morbid" means.

    KKKlaun, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy is also an ignoramus.

    ==========
    AI Overview
    The phrase "morbidly rich" isn't a standard, widely used dictionary term,
    but it combines "morbid" with "rich" to create a specific meaning
    .
    Here's a breakdown of the meaning:

    "Morbidly": This word implies something unhealthy or indicative of disease.
    "Rich": This means having a large amount of wealth or possessions.

    Therefore, "morbidly rich" can be interpreted to mean:

    Extremely or excessively rich, suggesting that the sheer amount of
    wealth is unhealthy, possibly for both the individual and society.


    However just because a suggestion is made.. does NOT make it true.

    However, let's say it is "unhealthy" that just means he's going to die
    sooner and we get to apply the inheritance tax that much sooner and that
    much more often.

    Are you opposed to collecting such tax?

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Stuart Fowler on Mon Jun 30 15:01:33 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On 29 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some news:103s4rt$1mgdn$[email protected]:


    You claimed he pays 1.1% flat tax. That's bullshit. I even posted a
    reference that showed he paid zero taxes some years.

    After deductions I myself pay minimal taxes, close to zero. There's
    nothing illegal or mystical about it. It's all in the tax code that
    applies to businesses. I also ensure I pay into a 401k and Social
    Security.

    I didn't say anything about "illegal". Of course it's legal - the Rich
    have bought Congress to make it all legal.


    What Democrat criminals want to do is to tax "takings" which are exempt.

    WTF are "takings"? And only moral criminals think the rich shouldn't have
    to pay their fair share.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Jun 30 11:25:52 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103u8sc$27vqb$[email protected]...
    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On 29 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:103s4rt$1mgdn$[email protected]:


    You claimed he pays 1.1% flat tax. That's bullshit. I even posted a
    reference that showed he paid zero taxes some years.

    After deductions I myself pay minimal taxes, close to zero. There's
    nothing illegal or mystical about it. It's all in the tax code that
    applies to businesses. I also ensure I pay into a 401k and Social
    Security.

    I didn't say anything about "illegal". Of course it's legal - the Rich
    have bought Congress to make it all legal.


    What Democrat criminals want to do is to tax "takings" which are exempt.

    WTF are "takings"? And only moral criminals think the rich shouldn't have
    to pay their fair share.

    Please define someone's "fair share"?

    Is this everyone pays the same rate, or should everyone pay the same amount?

    How do you determine one's 'income'?

    If I own a car and it becomes worth more, do I pay income tax on that?

    Do I have to sell my car if that is the only way to pay the income tax on
    it?

    What if I end up having to sell it for less than it is claimed to be worth?
    Who compensates me for my loss?
    Do I still have to pay the same amount of tax?

    I mean I love how everyone tosses the notion of a "fair share" around but I never seem to see anyone define what is "fair" other than someone else
    should pay more because I have decided that would be "fair". (to me)

    I mean you do realize the top 10% pays a far higher percentage of federal
    taxed vs their wealth than do those who are worth less.

    So how is that a fair share? Shouldn't we all pay the same rate?

    Yes, let's discuss exactly what would be a fair share that EVERYONE has to
    pay without exemption or exclusion.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 30 10:12:15 2025
    XPost: alt.june, or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.society.liberalism

    On 6/30/2025 7:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103snmq$1q0jv$[email protected]...
    Border Bandits <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 28 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:103psn1$14fuf$[email protected]:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103pag1$10apa$[email protected]:

    In news:103p0ch$tncr$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103orvm$snma$[email protected]:
    In news:103nkql$jvp3$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103msit$b9o6$[email protected]:
    In news:103mc3u$72pm$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103lq1r$30b2$[email protected]:
    useapen wrote:

    And that is one of Mamdaniâ?Ts least radical associations. It >>>>>>>>>>>> looks as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to >>>>>>>>>>>> engulf the nationâ?Ts largest city.

    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even >>>>>>>>>> have to pay a percent or two more in taxes.

    Nah, they'll just move.

    And then they won't be picking our pockets any longer.

    Are you claiming to be a New Yorker now?

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest >>>>>> of the country?

    Of course not-- that's why they'll move!

    https://nypost.com/2025/06/25/business/luxury-real-estate-brokers-say >>>>> - w
    ealthy-new-yorkers-are-already-looking-to-flee-after-zohran-mamdanis- >>>>> p r imary-win/

    So, are you claiming to be a New Yorker now, or are just your
    pockets in New York?

    Your logic nuron is completely broken. Or perhaps you think NY is the
    only place the rich inhabit?


    People like you mistakenly think that  just because the rich have a >>>>>> lot of money that they're not leaches....

    No, you're implying that the rich are leaches, I'm not that smart.

    fixed that for ya

    ...  I say we'd be better off without the parasites.  Tax them and >>>>>> they'll be at least somewhat useful to the community.

    It must be Envy Month.

    Do tell us why Bezos can afford multi-millions for yacht and wedding,
    but not pay his workers living wages.

    "Amazon warehouse workers in California earn an average of $19.82 per
    hour, which is 23% above the national average, according to Indeed.
    The average pay for customer fulfillment and operations roles is over
    $22 per hour, with total compensation, including benefits, reaching
    more than $29 per hour."

    That's pretty good for box kickers who have most of their work done
    for them by automation anyway.  Warehouse jobs shouldn't be considered
    career employment.  Anybody can do it and there is high turnover.

    ================
    AI Overview
    A significant portion of Amazon warehouse workers rely on public
    assistance programs like food stamps and Medicaid. A recent study by the
    Center for Urban Economic Development found that 33% of Amazon warehouse
    employees rely on these programs. This reliance on public assistance is
    despite Amazon raising its minimum wage to $15 per hour in 2018, and
    subsequently to an average of $20.50 per hour, with additional benefits.

    The study also revealed that 53% of workers experienced food insecurity
    and 48% experienced housing insecurity in the previous three months.
    The study's findings indicate that while Amazon has increased wages, many
    workers still struggle to afford basic necessities. This leads to a
    situation where taxpayers are essentially subsidizing Amazon's labor
    costs through public assistance programs. The study also highlights that
    the cost of living, particularly for food and housing, has increased
    significantly, outpacing wage increases for many Amazon employees.

    ============

    You got that? 53% of Amazon workers experience food insecurity.  33% rely >> on Public Assistance programs - paid by taxpayers.

    So.. we need to make sure they pay income tax?

    If they're employed and are paid for their labor, scooter, they pay income tax.


    I mean after all, you're on record as saying those that don't pay income tax are
    bad people.

    Cite, scooter.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 30 10:13:05 2025
    XPost: alt.june, or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.society.liberalism

    On 6/30/2025 6:44 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103p0ch$tncr$[email protected]...
    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103orvm$snma$[email protected]:

    In news:103nkql$jvp3$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103msit$b9o6$[email protected]:
    In news:103mc3u$72pm$[email protected], Baxter
    <[email protected]> typed:
    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103lq1r$30b2$[email protected]:
    useapen wrote:

    And that is one of Mamdani's least radical associations. It looks >>>>>>>> as if socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf the
    nation's largest city.

    How terrible if he is successful.

    Yeah, the rich fucks won't get those tax breaks and might even have >>>>>> to pay a percent or two more in taxes.

    Nah, they'll just move.

    And then they won't be picking our pockets any longer.

    Are you claiming to be a New Yorker now?

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the rest of
    the country?

    People like you mistakenly think that  just because the rich have a lot
    of money that they're not leaches.  I say we'd be better off without the
    parasites.  Tax them and they'll be at least somewhat useful to the
    community.

    Ok.. let's shut down every major food chain.. ever major industry.. every major
    employer... every major distributer...

    Tell us.. if we did as you suggest, could you even survive the consequences of
    imposing what you are calling for?

    No lights. No water. No food. No fuel. No jobs.

    Cities would cease to exist....

    None of that has anything to do with taxing the rich, scooter. If taxes on the rich remain the same or are even raised, it will not "shut down every major food
    chain" [sic] or any of your other bullshit imaginary scenarios, scooter. You're just making shit up again, scooter.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Mon Jun 30 22:33:48 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 29 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:103s4rt$1mgdn$[email protected]:


    You claimed he pays 1.1% flat tax. That's bullshit. I even posted
    a reference that showed he paid zero taxes some years.

    After deductions I myself pay minimal taxes, close to zero. There's
    nothing illegal or mystical about it. It's all in the tax code that
    applies to businesses. I also ensure I pay into a 401k and Social
    Security.

    I didn't say anything about "illegal". Of course it's legal - the
    Rich have bought Congress to make it all legal.


    What Democrat criminals want to do is to tax "takings" which are
    exempt.

    WTF are "takings"? And only moral criminals think the rich shouldn't
    have to pay their fair share.

    It caused the drafters nightmares to allow taxing of takings. I'm not
    a horror author or else I would relay the sense to you, but as it is,
    several of the shapes are cylindrical. Why did it have to be
    cylinders?


    So "takings" are cylindrical. How strange!

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  • From Stuart Fowler@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 1 02:32:14 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    On 30 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some news:103u8sc$27vqb$[email protected]:

    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On 29 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:103s4rt$1mgdn$[email protected]:


    You claimed he pays 1.1% flat tax. That's bullshit. I even posted
    a reference that showed he paid zero taxes some years.

    After deductions I myself pay minimal taxes, close to zero. There's
    nothing illegal or mystical about it. It's all in the tax code that
    applies to businesses. I also ensure I pay into a 401k and Social
    Security.

    I didn't say anything about "illegal". Of course it's legal - the
    Rich have bought Congress to make it all legal.

    When did they do that and where is the record of sale published?
    That's your incentive to work harder so you benefit from their efforts.

    What Democrat criminals want to do is to tax "takings" which are
    exempt.

    WTF are "takings"? And only moral criminals think the rich shouldn't
    have to pay their fair share.

    Owners draw. It shows up on your personal income taxes. Greedy Democrat pirates want to tax it twice, coming out then going in your wallet. I
    don't have a problem with them taxing the draw - once, after I apply
    any personal deductions.

    Your moralistic observation is warped. The "rich" pay their fair share
    and more. The "rich" don't just sit their on their pool decks doing
    nothing. The majority have business interests that support jobs and local economies.

    When politicians institute dumb policies, the businesses change or move
    to some place where the policies don't apply. That's when the pols start
    their silly crap of "tax the rich, pay their fair share" etc. Businesses
    have a responsibility to investors and creditors, they are supposed to
    try and be profitable. If they have to write off losses, you could argue
    the loss impacts taxpayers to a granular extent because the government gets less money.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 30 18:44:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism

    In news:103ugi1$29nhh$[email protected], "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <[email protected]>
    forged:

    On 6/30/2025 7:16 AM, Scout typed:
    "Delvin Benet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    What do you call a Democrat who can't keep a secret?

    A reliable source.

    The people leaking unflattering facts about Trump are not Democrats, scooter. But they *are* reliable sources. When the WaPo or NYT run a story that says "sources in the DOJ say...", it is *always* accurate, scooter.

    Unless it concerns RussiaRussiaRussia or Joe Biden's health.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 30 18:33:52 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism

    In news:103ughe$29nhh$[email protected], "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <[email protected]>
    forged:

    On 6/30/2025 7:24 AM, Scout typed:
    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103snmq$1q0jv$[email protected]...

    You got that? 53% of Amazon workers experience food insecurity. 33% rely >>> on Public Assistance programs - paid by taxpayers.

    So.. we need to make sure they pay income tax?

    If they're employed and are paid for their labor, scooter, they pay income tax.

    Not necessarily.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Jul 1 02:18:26 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    "Scout" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103u7vm$27qj2$[email protected]:



    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103q5jq$15snf$[email protected]...
    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Klaus Schadenfreude the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding in
    venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of
    his workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and
    medicaid.

    "No citation means you're lying, you fucking lying Nazi
    pseudo-sage." Nazi Runt Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
    Message-ID: <QBz7Q.75661$[email protected]>

    Go ahead and document how many people he has killed.

    I didn't say he killed anybody - you drunken idiot slut.


    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.

    We know your only reason for hating Bezos is he makes more money
    in a day than you've managed to do in your entire, wasted life.

    Bezos doesn't pay taxes, and I have to support his workers because
    he refused to pay them a living wage.

    You're lying, Baxter. I just read that Bezos pays 1.1% flat tax.

    You did not read - you pulled from your ass - else you'd have posted
    a link.
    ==========
    In 2007, Jeff Bezos, then a multibillionaire and now the world's
    richest man, did not pay a penny in federal income taxes. He achieved
    the feat again in 2011.
    https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never
    - before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax
    ==========

    Should be noted that not paying income tax does not mean he paid no
    tax.

    Just means he had no taxable income. Which frankly, if you're smart
    you take steps to minimize your own taxable income.

    .. or are you going to tell us you do nothing to lower your taxes..
    and if so who's fault is that?


    If the tax code is so fair why do YOU pay taxes?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Stuart Fowler on Tue Jul 1 03:11:00 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On 30 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some news:103u8sc$27vqb$[email protected]:

    I didn't say anything about "illegal". Of course it's legal - the
    Rich have bought Congress to make it all legal.

    When did they do that and where is the record of sale published?
    That's your incentive to work harder so you benefit from their
    efforts.

    They do it continuously:
    ============
    AI Overview
    Studies and analyses indicate that
    wealthy individuals and corporations often seek to influence legislation
    in their favor, sometimes leading to policies that primarily benefit the
    rich.
    How this is perceived to happen:

    Lobbying: Wealthy groups employ lobbyists to advocate for their
    interests with policymakers. Lobbyists provide information, draft
    legislation, and campaign for specific regulatory outcomes that benefit
    their clients, according to RepresentUs.
    Campaign Contributions: Large donations from wealthy donors or
    Political Action Committees (PACs) and Super PACs to political campaigns
    can create a sense of indebtedness, potentially influencing policy
    decisions.
    Drafting Legislation: There are claims that lobbyists, representing
    special interests, can even write the laws that Congress passes.
    Shaping Public Discourse: Wealthy individuals and corporations can
    own or control media outlets, allowing them to influence public opinion
    and steer the political discourse towards their interests.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Jul 1 02:16:31 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    "Scout" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103u7vk $27qj2$[email protected]:



    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103psqe$14fuf$[email protected]...
    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentö[email protected]>
    wrote in

    news:67806kpd55dnnuqrs3tpeffpq240utvnst@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocks
    uckin g.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <[email protected]> typed:

    You think the morbidly rich operate differently in NY from the
    rest
    of the country?

    What does "morbidly rich" mean to you, LeRoy?

    ROFLMAO

    That you're dying of envy?


    Morbidly rich is Bezos throwing a multi-million dollar wedding in
    venice aboard his milti-million dollar yacht while over 50% of his
    workers have to have taxpayer-supported food stamps and medicaid.

    You're sick in the head if you call that envy.


    Egads.

    It's a 50 million dollar wedding. Bezos has $231 billion dollars.
    This wedding cost 1/4600 of his wealth = 0.0002174 % of his savings.
    Equal to about a penny of yours?

    Bezos has higher ideals than Musk. I don't approve of your
    unilateral
    condemnation of billionaires.


    Then why can't he pay his workers a living wage?

    Name any Bezos employee that has starved to death.





    The richest man in the world makes his
    workers wear diapers because he won't even
    give them a potty break.

    This is the system you are defending?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Stuart Fowler on Tue Jul 1 03:15:10 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On 30 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some news:103u8sc$27vqb$[email protected]:


    WTF are "takings"? And only moral criminals think the rich shouldn't
    have to pay their fair share.

    Owners draw. It shows up on your personal income taxes. Greedy
    Democrat pirates want to tax it twice, coming out then going in your
    wallet. I don't have a problem with them taxing the draw - once,
    after I apply any personal deductions.

    IOW, it's your imagination.


    Your moralistic observation is warped. The "rich" pay their fair
    share and more.

    No, they don't - not when they pay taxes at a lower rate than the average worker

    The "rich" don't just sit their on their pool decks
    doing nothing.

    Yeah, they do - they sit on their yachts, throw lavish parties, go
    golfing, etc.

    The majority have business interests that support jobs
    and local economies.

    They exploit their workers.


    When politicians institute dumb policies, the businesses change or
    move to some place where the policies don't apply. That's when the
    pols start their silly crap of "tax the rich, pay their fair share"
    etc. Businesses have a responsibility to investors and creditors,
    they are supposed to try and be profitable. If they have to write
    off losses, you could argue the loss impacts taxpayers to a granular
    extent because the government gets less money.

    The old debunked Trickle Down bullshit. Also known as Horse and Sparrow.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Tue Jul 1 15:09:57 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 30 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:103u8sc$27vqb$[email protected]:


    WTF are "takings"? And only moral criminals think the rich
    shouldn't have to pay their fair share.

    Owners draw. It shows up on your personal income taxes. Greedy
    Democrat pirates want to tax it twice, coming out then going in your
    wallet. I don't have a problem with them taxing the draw - once,
    after I apply any personal deductions.

    IOW, it's your imagination.


    Your moralistic observation is warped. The "rich" pay their fair
    share and more.

    No, they don't - not when they pay taxes at a lower rate than the
    average worker

    Prove it, Baxter.

    ===============
    AI Overview
    Yes, analyses suggest that billionaires may pay a lower percentage of
    their income in federal taxes compared to the average American
    .
    Key Findings:

    White House Study: A 2021 White House study indicated that the
    wealthiest 400 billionaire families in the U.S. paid an average federal individual tax rate of just 8.2%. In contrast, the average American
    taxpayer paid 13% in the same year.

    ProPublica Investigation: Leaked tax returns examined by ProPublica revealed that the 25 richest Americans paid a "true" tax rate of only
    3.4% on their income between 2014 and 2018, when counting wealth growth
    as income.

    Focus on Wealth over Income: The U.S. tax code favors income from
    wealth over income from work, and billionaires often employ tax-avoidance strategies.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Tue Jul 1 10:11:11 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    "Praetor Mandrake" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    Baxter wrote:
    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 30 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:103u8sc$27vqb$[email protected]:


    WTF are "takings"? And only moral criminals think the rich shouldn't
    have to pay their fair share.

    Owners draw. It shows up on your personal income taxes. Greedy
    Democrat pirates want to tax it twice, coming out then going in your
    wallet. I don't have a problem with them taxing the draw - once,
    after I apply any personal deductions.

    IOW, it's your imagination.


    Your moralistic observation is warped. The "rich" pay their fair
    share and more.

    No, they don't - not when they pay taxes at a lower rate than the average
    worker

    Prove it, Baxter.

    Can't prove it, but I can disprove it.

    "The newly released report covers Tax Year 2022 (for tax forms filed in
    2023). The newest data reveals that the top 1% of earners, defined as those with incomes over $663,164, paid nearly 40.43% of all income taxes"

    https://www.ntu.org/foundation/tax-page/who-pays-income-taxes


    Below, we show the average tax rate paid in 2022 across different income groups:

    Income Bracket Average Tax Rate
    Top 1% 26.1%
    5% to 1% 18.8%
    10% to 5% 14.3%
    25% to 10% 10.7%
    50% to 25% 7.7%
    Bottom 50% 3.7%
    All Taxpayers 14.5%


    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charted-how-much-income-tax-americans-pay-by-wealth-bracket/


    So once again I ask Baxter.. What exactly is someone's "fair share"???????

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to max headroom on Tue Jul 1 09:59:34 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism

    "max headroom" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103ve9l$2jhhf$[email protected]...
    In news:103ughe$29nhh$[email protected], "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <[email protected]> forged:

    On 6/30/2025 7:24 AM, Scout typed:
    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103snmq$1q0jv$[email protected]...

    You got that? 53% of Amazon workers experience food insecurity. 33%
    rely
    on Public Assistance programs - paid by taxpayers.

    So.. we need to make sure they pay income tax?

    If they're employed and are paid for their labor, scooter, they pay
    income
    tax.

    Not necessarily.

    Yep, a common scam is to claim maximum deductions avoiding most/all income
    tax, and knowing that if called for an audit they will just disappear only
    have a new name next week.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Tue Jul 1 11:56:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:gsT8Q.284846$[email protected]...
    On 7/1/2025 6:59 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    On every date, oozing scarlet red maxipad, whose mouth waters at the
    thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch, tried — and
    *failed* — to bullshit:
    In news:103ughe$29nhh$[email protected], Rudy Canoza, the intellectual,
    moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior to oozing
    scarlet red maxipad (whose mouth waters at the thought of his mommy's
    warm mackerel-reeking snatch) *wrote* (not "typed"):
    On 6/30/2025 7:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103snmq$1q0jv$[email protected]...

    You got that? 53% of Amazon workers experience food insecurity. 33% >>>>>> rely
    on Public Assistance programs - paid by taxpayers.

    So.. we need to make sure they pay income tax?

    If they're employed and are paid for their labor, scooter, they pay
    income
    tax.

    Not necessarily.

    Yep, a common scam

    Cite, scooter.

    When you provide some, maybe I will feel motivated to provide some to you.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Tue Jul 1 12:00:47 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:1040to5$2th43$[email protected]...
    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 30 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:103u8sc$27vqb$[email protected]:


    WTF are "takings"? And only moral criminals think the rich
    shouldn't have to pay their fair share.

    Owners draw. It shows up on your personal income taxes. Greedy
    Democrat pirates want to tax it twice, coming out then going in your
    wallet. I don't have a problem with them taxing the draw - once,
    after I apply any personal deductions.

    IOW, it's your imagination.


    Your moralistic observation is warped. The "rich" pay their fair
    share and more.

    No, they don't - not when they pay taxes at a lower rate than the
    average worker

    Prove it, Baxter.

    ===============
    AI Overview
    Yes, analyses suggest that billionaires may pay a lower percentage of
    their income in federal taxes compared to the average American

    You do know that AI is not an accepted source and "may" doesn't mean they
    do.

    Second we have now set the standard that the Rich only includes
    Billionaires.

    Of the few there are, we could drain them dry without even balancing the
    budget for a single year.

    At which point we have no billionaires, their companies would be headed into bankruptcy and the economy would suffer greatly.

    So try again, and remember, if you can prove they owe taxes they haven't
    paid you get a percentage of the delinquent taxes. So when do you expect to
    be paid?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Tue Jul 1 12:29:21 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:jVT8Q.57797$[email protected]...
    On 7/1/2025 8:56 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:gsT8Q.284846$[email protected]...
    On 7/1/2025 6:59 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    On every date, oozing scarlet red maxipad, whose mouth waters at the
    thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch, tried — and
    *failed* — to bullshit:
    In news:103ughe$29nhh$[email protected], Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, >>>>> moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior to oozing >>>>> scarlet red maxipad (whose mouth waters at the thought of his mommy's >>>>> warm mackerel- reeking snatch) *wrote* (not "typed"):
    On 6/30/2025 7:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and >>>>>> lied:
    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103snmq$1q0jv$[email protected]...

    You got that? 53% of Amazon workers experience food insecurity. 33% >>>>>>>> rely
    on Public Assistance programs - paid by taxpayers.

    So.. we need to make sure they pay income tax?

    If they're employed and are paid for their labor, scooter, they pay >>>>>> income
    tax.

    Not necessarily.

    Yep, a common scam

    Cite, scooter.

    When you provide some,

    You're the one who made the unsupported claim, scooter. Get busy with supporting it, or we'll consider it retracted.

    Ok.. every claim made by Rudy is hereby acknowledged to be an unsupported
    claim until or unless he provides supporting evidence for his claim.

    As such, NO unsupported claim by Rudy will be accepted without such support
    per Rudy's OWN standards.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to useapen on Tue Jul 1 19:19:28 2025
    XPost: alt.june, or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.society.liberalism

    useapen wrote:

    Pride is as of yet the only one of the Seven Deadly Sins to get a whole
    month dedicated to celebrating it, but the recent election in New York
    City provides a strong case for renaming June, as almost spent as it is,
    not Pride Month, but Envy Month. After all, Zohran Mamdani, who was just >voted Most Likely to Be the Next Mayor of New York, is a member (like his >friend Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) of the Democratic Socialists of America.
    And that is one of Mamdani�s least radical associations. It looks as if >socialism, the politics of envy, is about to engulf the nation�s largest >city.

    Mamdani made it clear that he is way beyond Democratic Socialists
    territory four and a half years ago. On Dec. 25, 2020, the Communist Party
    of India in that country�s Puducherry territory, which adds the helping >clarifying term �Marxist� to its name in parentheses, just in case there
    was any doubt about whether they�re for gulags and the knock on the door
    at four a.m., posted praise on what was then known as Twitter for the >youthful Marxist mayor of the city of Thiruvananthapuram in Kerala:
    �Comrade Arya Rajendran, age 21 new Mayor of Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala.
    She will be the youngest mayor of a major city in the world. Here she
    leads a detachment of Red Volunteers in @CPIMKerala. #CPIM
    #LeftAlternative #Communist.�

    In one of the two accompanying photos, Comrade Rajendran stares
    determinedly ahead while clutching a pole as if it were a rifle, looking
    for all the world like her Marxist comrades in Chinese Communist Party >propaganda dating from the heady days of the Cultural Revolution, on her
    way to a struggle session to reveal the dangerous ideological deviations
    of the class enemy.

    Mamdani presented this tweet from the Communist Party of India (Marxist) >Puducherry State with this comment: �them: so what kind of mayor does nyc >need right now? me:� Then followed the Commies� tweet. So Mamdani was
    saying that what the City That Never Sleeps really needs is a Communist >mayor, and the mind reels at the fact that this was not enough of a big
    deal to prevent him from running for mayor as a candidate of the
    Democratic Party. So the Democrats evidently have no problem with open >Marxists now, and the politics of envy, which not just Mamdani but Bernie
    and AOC and a host of others have made the centerpiece of their program,
    is fast becoming its guiding principle.

    Socialism and Communism are, at heart, nothing but envy. Someone works
    harder than I do, or is more talented than I am, or knows all the right >people. And so someone has more than I do, and I want to even the score. I >could work harder, and labor in particular to develop the talents I need
    to get ahead in my chosen field, or try to make the acquaintance of the >people I think I need to know. Yet the harsh facts of life will still
    likely confront me: someone else is always going to have more, do better,
    be more accomplished, be better known.

    I can accept this as a fact of life: all men are created equal in dignity
    and worth, but not equal in abilities or anything else. I can accept this
    and be grateful for what I do have, or I can fall into envy, and begin to >hate others for excelling where I did not.

    Socialism and Communism take that envy, which used to be widely recognized
    as something to be shunned, as it sucks all the joy out of life, and makes
    it a virtue. A righteous person sees Elon Musk and admires him for his >industry, his imagination, his daring, and his vision. An envious person
    sees him, even before he got mixed up with Orange Man Bad, and wonders why
    he has so much money. A socialist or a Communist will answer that it�s >because of inherent and systemic inequities and injustices that have to be >redressed by forced redistribution of goods, so that everyone will enjoy
    an equal share of the fruits of all of our labors. This is just envy
    dressed up in the clothes of �social justice,� which disguises the fact
    that it�s still just envy.

    If he becomes mayor and follows through on his promises of free grocery >stores and the like, Zohran Mamdani will have to find someone who will pay >for all the free stuff he is handing out to the envious and lazy (as well
    as, conceivably, a small number of the truly needy). Wealthy New Yorkers, >rather than be taxed into penury, will simply pull up stakes and leave the >city. Mamdani, like the East Germans, will have to build a wall around his >city to keep the producers from fleeing, so they can be duly fleeced by
    the envious.

    A wall will most likely not be built. Instead, New York will become a >crime-ridden hellhole that those who had means to do so have fled. Envy
    not only kills the soul; it kills societies. And now it has a chance to
    kill New York. Happy Envy Month!

    https://pjmedia.com/robert-spencer/2025/06/26/its-not-pride-month-its- >envy-month-n4941214


    All our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ did all day was complain about homosexuals. That's why it's our God given right to join our Muslim
    brothers and hate the Gays!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Garrty Tubeway@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 1 19:21:47 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Bl4ck Sunsh1ne wrote:

    Scout wrote:


    "Praetor Mandrake" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    Baxter wrote:
    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 30 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:103u8sc$27vqb$[email protected]:


    WTF are "takings"?  And only moral criminals think the rich
    shouldn't have to pay their fair share.

    Owners draw. It shows up on your personal income taxes.  Greedy
    Democrat pirates want to tax it twice, coming out then going in your >>>>> wallet.  I don't have a problem with them taxing the draw - once,
    after I apply any personal deductions.

    IOW, it's your imagination.


    Your moralistic observation is warped.  The "rich" pay their fair
    share and more.

    No, they don't - not when they pay taxes at a lower rate than the
    average
    worker

    Prove it, Baxter.

    Can't prove it, but I can disprove it.

    "The newly released report covers Tax Year 2022 (for tax forms filed in
    2023). The newest data reveals that the top 1% of earners, defined as
    those with incomes over $663,164, paid nearly 40.43% of all income
    taxes"

    Why not 50.43% Wouldn't that be more noble of them?

    https://www.ntu.org/foundation/tax-page/who-pays-income-taxes


    Below, we show the average tax rate paid in 2022 across different
    income groups:

    Income Bracket    Average Tax Rate
    Top 1%                    26.1%
    5% to 1%    18.8%
    10% to 5%    14.3%
    25% to 10%    10.7%
    50% to 25%    7.7%
    Bottom 50%    3.7%
    All Taxpayers    14.5%

    I'm gonna get after you, Scout. It's Iranian prophecy. 26 Jan is the >anniversary of the Holocaust.

    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charted-how-much-income-tax-americans-p
    ay-by-wealth-bracket/



    So once again I ask Baxter.. What exactly is someone's "fair
    share"???????

    Sorry, Charile, but that's exactly what I just asked him and his
    response was pleasing.


    I get really offended when there's a male / male relationship and the black
    guy fucks the white man up his ass. I think that's why it offends Trump
    too.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Stuart Fowler@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 1 23:57:12 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    On 01 Jul 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some news:1040to5$2th43$[email protected]:

    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 30 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:103u8sc$27vqb$[email protected]:


    WTF are "takings"? And only moral criminals think the rich
    shouldn't have to pay their fair share.

    Owners draw. It shows up on your personal income taxes. Greedy
    Democrat pirates want to tax it twice, coming out then going in
    your wallet. I don't have a problem with them taxing the draw -
    once, after I apply any personal deductions.

    IOW, it's your imagination.


    Your moralistic observation is warped. The "rich" pay their fair
    share and more.

    No, they don't - not when they pay taxes at a lower rate than the
    average worker

    Prove it, Baxter.

    ===============
    AI Overview
    Yes, analyses suggest that billionaires may pay a lower percentage of
    their income in federal taxes compared to the average American
    .
    Key Findings:

    White House Study: A 2021 White House study indicated that the
    wealthiest 400 billionaire families in the U.S. paid an average
    federal individual tax rate of just 8.2%. In contrast, the average
    American taxpayer paid 13% in the same year.

    That is just plain ignorant and misleading contrasting.

    If this was how it really worked in the minds of the have-nots. Neither example take into account deductions.

    8.2% of $1,000,000,000.00 is $81,999,999.99.

    The average US household income is around $80,000.00

    13% of $80,000.00 is $10,400.

    Democrats think voters are stupid and will buy that generalized crap. At
    least 70 odd million are - because they vote for them.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Stuart Fowler on Wed Jul 2 01:55:50 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On 01 Jul 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some news:1040to5$2th43$[email protected]:

    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 30 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:103u8sc$27vqb$[email protected]:


    WTF are "takings"? And only moral criminals think the rich
    shouldn't have to pay their fair share.

    Owners draw. It shows up on your personal income taxes. Greedy
    Democrat pirates want to tax it twice, coming out then going in
    your wallet. I don't have a problem with them taxing the draw -
    once, after I apply any personal deductions.

    IOW, it's your imagination.


    Your moralistic observation is warped. The "rich" pay their fair
    share and more.

    No, they don't - not when they pay taxes at a lower rate than the
    average worker

    Prove it, Baxter.

    ===============
    AI Overview
    Yes, analyses suggest that billionaires may pay a lower percentage of
    their income in federal taxes compared to the average American
    .
    Key Findings:

    White House Study: A 2021 White House study indicated that the
    wealthiest 400 billionaire families in the U.S. paid an average
    federal individual tax rate of just 8.2%. In contrast, the average
    American taxpayer paid 13% in the same year.

    That is just plain ignorant and misleading contrasting.

    If this was how it really worked in the minds of the have-nots.
    Neither example take into account deductions.

    8.2% of $1,000,000,000.00 is $81,999,999.99.

    The average US household income is around $80,000.00

    13% of $80,000.00 is $10,400.

    Democrats think voters are stupid and will buy that generalized crap.
    At least 70 odd million are - because they vote for them.


    8 multi-billionaires have more money that 8 billion people.

    And you're conflating RATE with AMOUNT. If I have $1K and you have $1M
    why shouldn't you pay more proportionally. If you have !,000 times the
    money, it doesn't cost you 1,000 times as much to live. That billionaire
    can pay that $82M and still have $918 left. That average household (2
    wage earners) has less than $70K to pay all the bills/etc.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jul 2 03:37:53 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Bl4ck Sunsh1ne <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 01 Jul 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:1040to5$2th43$[email protected]:

    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 30 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some >>>>>>> news:103u8sc$27vqb$[email protected]:


    WTF are "takings"? And only moral criminals think the rich
    shouldn't have to pay their fair share.

    Owners draw. It shows up on your personal income taxes. Greedy
    Democrat pirates want to tax it twice, coming out then going in
    your wallet. I don't have a problem with them taxing the draw - >>>>>>> once, after I apply any personal deductions.

    IOW, it's your imagination.


    Your moralistic observation is warped. The "rich" pay their
    fair share and more.

    No, they don't - not when they pay taxes at a lower rate than the
    average worker

    Prove it, Baxter.

    ===============
    AI Overview
    Yes, analyses suggest that billionaires may pay a lower percentage
    of their income in federal taxes compared to the average American
    .
    Key Findings:

    White House Study: A 2021 White House study indicated that the
    wealthiest 400 billionaire families in the U.S. paid an average
    federal individual tax rate of just 8.2%. In contrast, the average
    American taxpayer paid 13% in the same year.

    That is just plain ignorant and misleading contrasting.

    If this was how it really worked in the minds of the have-nots.
    Neither example take into account deductions.

    8.2% of $1,000,000,000.00 is $81,999,999.99.

    The average US household income is around $80,000.00

    13% of $80,000.00 is $10,400.

    Democrats think voters are stupid and will buy that generalized
    crap. At least 70 odd million are - because they vote for them.


    8 multi-billionaires have more money that 8 billion people.

    And you're conflating RATE with AMOUNT. If I have $1K and you have
    $1M why shouldn't you pay more proportionally.

    Because the person
    with $1M worked more diligently to save?

    I didn't write this.

    I'd say that qualifies as a reason.

    And, no, they're not millionaires/billionaires because they saved.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Prtr Mdrke on Wed Jul 2 15:11:37 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    Prtr Mdrke <[email protected]> wrote in news:mcjpgnFbgl7U2 @mid.individual.net:

    Baxter wrote:
    Bl4ck Sunsh1ne <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 01 Jul 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:1040to5$2th43$[email protected]:

    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 30 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted
    some
    news:103u8sc$27vqb$[email protected]:


    WTF are "takings"? And only moral criminals think the rich >>>>>>>>>> shouldn't have to pay their fair share.

    Owners draw. It shows up on your personal income taxes. Greedy >>>>>>>>> Democrat pirates want to tax it twice, coming out then going in >>>>>>>>> your wallet. I don't have a problem with them taxing the draw
    -
    once, after I apply any personal deductions.

    IOW, it's your imagination.


    Your moralistic observation is warped. The "rich" pay their >>>>>>>>> fair share and more.

    No, they don't - not when they pay taxes at a lower rate than
    the
    average worker

    Prove it, Baxter.

    ===============
    AI Overview
    Yes, analyses suggest that billionaires may pay a lower percentage >>>>>> of their income in federal taxes compared to the average American
    .
    Key Findings:

    White House Study: A 2021 White House study indicated that
    the
    wealthiest 400 billionaire families in the U.S. paid an average
    federal individual tax rate of just 8.2%. In contrast, the average >>>>>> American taxpayer paid 13% in the same year.

    That is just plain ignorant and misleading contrasting.

    If this was how it really worked in the minds of the have-nots.
    Neither example take into account deductions.

    8.2% of $1,000,000,000.00 is $81,999,999.99.

    The average US household income is around $80,000.00

    13% of $80,000.00 is $10,400.

    Democrats think voters are stupid and will buy that generalized
    crap. At least 70 odd million are - because they vote for them.


    8 multi-billionaires have more money that 8 billion people.

    And you're conflating RATE with AMOUNT. If I have $1K and you have
    $1M why shouldn't you pay more proportionally.

    Because the person
    with $1M worked more diligently to save?

    I didn't write this.

    I'd say that qualifies as a reason.

    And, no, they're not millionaires/billionaires because they saved.

    Right, they're millionaires because they earned and saved.

    They inherited, and were plain lucky.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jul 2 10:06:04 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    "Bl4ck Sunsh1ne" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:


    "Praetor Mandrake" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    Baxter wrote:
    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 30 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:103u8sc$27vqb$[email protected]:


    WTF are "takings"? And only moral criminals think the rich shouldn't >>>>>> have to pay their fair share.

    Owners draw. It shows up on your personal income taxes. Greedy
    Democrat pirates want to tax it twice, coming out then going in your >>>>> wallet. I don't have a problem with them taxing the draw - once,
    after I apply any personal deductions.

    IOW, it's your imagination.


    Your moralistic observation is warped. The "rich" pay their fair
    share and more.

    No, they don't - not when they pay taxes at a lower rate than the
    average
    worker

    Prove it, Baxter.

    Can't prove it, but I can disprove it.

    "The newly released report covers Tax Year 2022 (for tax forms filed in
    2023). The newest data reveals that the top 1% of earners, defined as
    those with incomes over $663,164, paid nearly 40.43% of all income taxes"

    Why not 50.43% Wouldn't that be more noble of them?

    Well, let's see, the more we have raised taxes, the further in debt we go as
    a nation, because raising taxes doesn't seem to lower the deficit.. it seems
    to encourage spending (and misspending) even MORE money

    Everyone is asking why people today can't live as their parents did.. or
    even more so as their grandparents.

    For the most part it's just 2 things.

    Taxation and Inflation

    In the 60s the average worker paid 18% of their gross income in taxes (both direct and indirect), Gold was about $35/ounce and at minimum wage you could buy an ounce of gold after working about 28 hours (ignoring taxes).

    Today, the average worker pays 50-60% of their gross income in taxes (both direct and indirect), Gold is over $3,500/ounce and at minimum wage you can
    buy an ounce of gold after working about 11.5 weeks (ignoring taxes).

    Now if you factor in the amount they have to pay in taxes.. you go from
    about 34 hours in the 60s to 700 hours today.

    So it's not much of a surprise they can't afford to live as their parents
    did, much less their grandparents..

    And who do we blame for taxation and inflation?

    The G O V E R M E N T

    So why should we continue to feed the beast particularly considering they
    feel they have so much money that they can give it away for stupid shit in other nations?

    Nope, the most noble thing we can do right now.. is starve the beast. Until they no longer have money to give away on stupid shit. they don't need one
    cent more from us.. from any of us.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed Jul 2 10:40:06 2025
    XPost: or.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism

    "Baxter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:10423j5$394m0$[email protected]...
    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On 01 Jul 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:1040to5$2th43$[email protected]:

    Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    Baxter wrote:
    Stuart Fowler <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 30 Jun 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some
    news:103u8sc$27vqb$[email protected]:


    WTF are "takings"? And only moral criminals think the rich
    shouldn't have to pay their fair share.

    Owners draw. It shows up on your personal income taxes. Greedy
    Democrat pirates want to tax it twice, coming out then going in
    your wallet. I don't have a problem with them taxing the draw -
    once, after I apply any personal deductions.

    IOW, it's your imagination.


    Your moralistic observation is warped. The "rich" pay their fair
    share and more.

    No, they don't - not when they pay taxes at a lower rate than the
    average worker

    Prove it, Baxter.

    ===============
    AI Overview
    Yes, analyses suggest that billionaires may pay a lower percentage of
    their income in federal taxes compared to the average American
    .
    Key Findings:

    White House Study: A 2021 White House study indicated that the
    wealthiest 400 billionaire families in the U.S. paid an average
    federal individual tax rate of just 8.2%. In contrast, the average
    American taxpayer paid 13% in the same year.

    That is just plain ignorant and misleading contrasting.

    If this was how it really worked in the minds of the have-nots.
    Neither example take into account deductions.

    8.2% of $1,000,000,000.00 is $81,999,999.99.

    The average US household income is around $80,000.00

    13% of $80,000.00 is $10,400.

    Democrats think voters are stupid and will buy that generalized crap.
    At least 70 odd million are - because they vote for them.


    8 multi-billionaires have more money that 8 billion people.

    So? You realize that VERY VERY little of that is in Cash, and usually
    represent Business which are taxed as businesses are. So if we are going to count these business as part of their taxable wealth.. then you should ALSO include all the taxes paid by these businesses as having been paid by the billionaire in question.

    Bet that's go when you do so you find they pay about twice the percentage of taxes as anyone else does, and represents around 44% of the federal revenue.

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