• Re: Trump Makes The USA The #1 Police State

    From leonard@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Thu Jun 26 10:51:23 2025
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    On 6/26/2025 6:31 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to
    | American Democracy
    |
    | Masked Federal Agents Are Undermining Trust--and Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by
    | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    Lies, lies, lies:
    |
    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids
    | despite video evidence

    Democrats lie and claim it's okay for illegal aliens to ignore US laws,
    invade and trespass.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to leonard on Thu Jun 26 12:14:05 2025
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    leonard wrote:
    Democrats lie and claim it's okay for illegal aliens to ignore US laws, invade and trespass.

    Cite these Democrats.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Jun 26 19:51:55 2025
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    leonard <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to
    | American Democracy
    |
    | Masked Federal Agents Are Undermining Trust--and Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by
    | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    Lies, lies, lies:
    |
    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids
    | despite video evidence

    Democrats lie and claim it's okay for illegal aliens to ignore US laws, >invade and trespass.

    |
    | Support Rises For Giving Most Undocumented Immigrants A
    | Pathway To Legal Status
    | ...
    <https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3926>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Jun 27 07:21:01 2025
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    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 19:51:55 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    leonard <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to
    | American Democracy
    |
    | Masked Federal Agents Are Undermining Trust--and Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by
    | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    Lies, lies, lies:
    |
    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids
    | despite video evidence

    Democrats lie and claim it's okay for illegal aliens to ignore US laws, >>invade and trespass.

    |
    | Support Rises For Giving Most Undocumented Immigrants A
    | Pathway To Legal Status
    | ...
    <https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3926>

    --bks


    How did you miss this part:

    "More Than 9 In 10 Voters Say Politically Motivated Violence In The
    U.S. Is A Serious Problem"

    People don't like people such as yourself who excuse this garbage.

    Party break down missing as usual.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Jun 28 08:46:40 2025
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    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 07:21:01 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 19:51:55 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    leonard <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to
    | American Democracy
    |
    | Masked Federal Agents Are Undermining Trust--and Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by
    | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    Lies, lies, lies:
    |
    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids
    | despite video evidence

    Democrats lie and claim it's okay for illegal aliens to ignore US laws, >>>invade and trespass.

    |
    | Support Rises For Giving Most Undocumented Immigrants A
    | Pathway To Legal Status
    | ...
    <https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3926>

    --bks


    How did you miss this part:

    "More Than 9 In 10 Voters Say Politically Motivated Violence In The
    U.S. Is A Serious Problem"

    People don't like people such as yourself who excuse this garbage.

    Party break down missing as usual.

    And Bradley once again can't handle being humiliated.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 28 13:06:11 2025
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    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to
    | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by
    | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids
    | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ... <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>

    --bks

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Jun 28 09:15:47 2025
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    NoBody wrote:
    Democrats lie and claim it's okay for illegal aliens to ignore US laws,
    invade and trespass.

    How did you miss this part:


    When do you name names?

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 28 19:40:19 2025
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    On 28 Jun 2025, "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> posted some news:103p4fg$upul$[email protected]:

    NoBody wrote:
    Democrats lie and claim it's okay for illegal aliens to ignore US
    laws,
    invade and trespass.

    How did you miss this part:


    When do you name names?

    The media takes care of that.

    https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/ujWaIaIlpUo2nb7rA8wfdQ-- /YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTEyNDI7aD02OTk- /https://media.zenfs.com/en/aol_fox_news_articles_947/4763d81d903021b74dde 2eeb7f132240

    "DHS's "worst of the worst" illegal immigrants in mugshots with LA riots
    on the back. From left to right: Juventino Acevedo Rodriguez, Jesus Zamora-Lopez, Juan Diego Euan, Cesar Zetina-Michua, Daniel Ofarril,
    Salvador Montar Morales, Hung Nguyen and Efran Omar Rosales-Serrano."

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 28 19:56:33 2025
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    On 28 Jun 2025, [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) posted some news:103opc3$pon$[email protected]:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to
    | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by
    | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids
    | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/

    Illegal is illegal. What part of that does your brain not fathom?
    Remember the famous Democrat mantra used to try and derail Trump's
    campaign, "Nobody is above the law"? How's that working out since he
    was elected POTUS despite left-wing lawfare?

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Martin on Sat Jun 28 15:01:11 2025
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    Martin wrote:
    On 28 Jun 2025, [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) posted some news:103opc3$pon$[email protected]:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by
    | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids >>>>>>> | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/

    Illegal is illegal. What part of that does your brain not fathom?
    Remember the famous Democrat mantra used to try and derail Trump's
    campaign, "Nobody is above the law"? How's that working out since he
    was elected POTUS despite left-wing lawfare?


    https://www.fox4news.com/news/immigration-enforcement-texas-agriculture>

    Immigration enforcement takes toll on Texas agriculture

    ELLIS COUNTY, Texas - State Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller says
    stepped-up immigration enforcement is taking a toll on the industry.

    As the effects are being felt not just here in Texas, but beyond,
    federal immigration officials say they�re just doing their jobs.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Martin on Sat Jun 28 14:58:06 2025
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    Martin wrote:
    On 28 Jun 2025, "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> posted some news:103p4fg$upul$[email protected]:

    NoBody wrote:
    Democrats lie and claim it's okay for illegal aliens to ignore US
    laws,
    invade and trespass.

    How did you miss this part:


    When do you name names?

    The media takes care of that.

    https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/ujWaIaIlpUo2nb7rA8wfdQ-- /YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTEyNDI7aD02OTk- /https://media.zenfs.com/en/aol_fox_news_articles_947/4763d81d903021b74dde 2eeb7f132240

    "DHS's "worst of the worst" illegal immigrants in mugshots with LA riots
    on the back. From left to right: Juventino Acevedo Rodriguez, Jesus Zamora-Lopez, Juan Diego Euan, Cesar Zetina-Michua, Daniel Ofarril,
    Salvador Montar Morales, Hung Nguyen and Efran Omar Rosales-Serrano."


    <https://apnews.com/article/justice-department-gang-leader-ms13-pam-bondi-9d24095daae4e1913bbf2c835ad63fea>

    WASHINGTON (AP) � A federal judge on Tuesday granted the Justice
    Department�s request to dismiss the criminal case against the alleged
    MS-13 gang East Coast leader whom prosecutors say they now intend to
    deport just weeks after top government officials celebrated his arrest
    outside of Washington.

    Henrry Josue Villatoro Santos ' lawyer in an usual request urged the
    judge not to immediately dismiss the case, saying he feared his client
    would be deported to an El Salvador prison without a chance to challenge
    his removal.

    �This was clearly a political decision,� defense attorney Muhammad
    Elsayed told the judge of the choice to deport Villatoro Santos. The
    motion to dismiss was filed shortly after the Justice Department made a
    � high profile spectacle out of him,� Elsayed added.

    But Magistrate Judge William Fitzpatrick said during a hearing in
    Virginia that judge cannot second-guess prosecutors� decision not to
    pursue a case, and that the criminal court isn�t the proper place to
    seek relief from deportation.




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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Jun 29 09:13:09 2025
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    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:06:11 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to
    | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by
    | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids
    | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>

    --bks

    "according to internal government data obtained by CBS News" = sources
    say = complete nonsense.

    And if they are illegal, they are by definition criminals.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jun 29 09:14:26 2025
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    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 09:15:47 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    Democrats lie and claim it's okay for illegal aliens to ignore US laws, >>>> >>>invade and trespass.

    How did you miss this part:


    When do you name names?

    What names?

    And you drunkenly snipped the actual quote:

    ">"More Than 9 In 10 Voters Say Politically Motivated Violence In The
    U.S. Is A Serious Problem""

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Jun 29 06:34:13 2025
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    NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 09:15:47 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    Democrats lie and claim it's okay for illegal aliens to ignore US laws, >>>>>>>> invade and trespass.

    How did you miss this part:


    When do you name names?

    What names?

    And you drunkenly snipped the actual quote:

    ">"More Than 9 In 10 Voters Say Politically Motivated Violence In The
    U.S. Is A Serious Problem""

    When do you stop running away and name names?

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Jun 29 06:32:50 2025
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    NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:06:11 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by
    | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids >>>>>>> | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>

    --bks

    "according to internal government data obtained by CBS News" = sources
    say = complete nonsense.

    And if they are illegal, they are by definition criminals.

    That will make Nebraska more comfortable.

    <https://nebraskaexaminer.com/2025/04/19/tariffs-harming-farms-businesses-and-budgets/>

    Many Nebraskans are feeling pressure right now. Whether you�re a working
    parent in Scottsbluff, a small business owner in Omaha or one of the
    many farmers like myself in between, one word sums up the current
    economic mood: uncertainty.

    Everyone�s watching their budgets a little more closely, wondering if
    they can still afford the same basic things they could a year ago.

    That�s why we need our leaders in Washington, D.C., to step up. The
    people we elected to represent us were supposed to focus on lowering
    prices and making everyday goods more affordable. Instead, we�re dealing
    with another round of tariffs.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Jun 30 06:48:10 2025
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    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 09:13:09 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:06:11 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by
    | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids
    | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ... >><https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>

    --bks

    "according to internal government data obtained by CBS News" = sources
    say = complete nonsense.

    And if they are illegal, they are by definition criminals.

    And Bradley runs away.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jun 30 06:48:56 2025
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    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 06:34:13 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 09:15:47 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    Democrats lie and claim it's okay for illegal aliens to ignore US laws, >>>>>>>>> invade and trespass.

    How did you miss this part:


    When do you name names?

    What names?

    And you drunkenly snipped the actual quote:

    ">"More Than 9 In 10 Voters Say Politically Motivated Violence In The
    U.S. Is A Serious Problem""

    When do you stop running away and name names?

    And Siri the drunk passes out.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Mon Jun 30 10:33:21 2025
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    "Bradley K. Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103opc3$pon$[email protected]...
    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to
    | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by
    | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids
    | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ... <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>

    --bks

    Please define how the term "criminal record" is being used, and how a lack
    of a "criminal record" somehow should make one exempt from existing law.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Mon Jun 30 10:34:42 2025
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    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103pon4$13hgq$[email protected]...
    Martin wrote:
    On 28 Jun 2025, [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) posted some
    news:103opc3$pon$[email protected]:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by >>>>>>>>>> | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles, >>>>>>>>>> | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids >>>>>>>> | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/

    Illegal is illegal. What part of that does your brain not fathom?
    Remember the famous Democrat mantra used to try and derail Trump's
    campaign, "Nobody is above the law"? How's that working out since he
    was elected POTUS despite left-wing lawfare?


    https://www.fox4news.com/news/immigration-enforcement-texas-agriculture>

    Immigration enforcement takes toll on Texas agriculture

    ELLIS COUNTY, Texas - State Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller says stepped-up immigration enforcement is taking a toll on the industry.

    Gee, I bet the bootleggers felt much the same when the alcohol control laws were enforced.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Jun 30 10:37:02 2025
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    "NoBody" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:06:11 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by
    | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids
    | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ... >><https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>

    --bks

    "according to internal government data obtained by CBS News" = sources
    say = complete nonsense.

    And if they are illegal, they are by definition criminals.

    Well actually given illegal entry carries a potential prison sentence even
    for a first offense.. then technically every illegal alien has a criminal record the moment they are apprehended.

    I suppose they meant "any criminal record other than these crimes"...

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 30 10:11:52 2025
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    On 6/30/2025 7:33 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "Bradley K. Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103opc3$pon$[email protected]...
    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by
    | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

      | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids >>>>>>>   | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no- >> criminal-record/>

       --bks

    Please define how the term "criminal record" is being used, and how a lack of a
    "criminal record" somehow should make one exempt from existing law.
    It doesn't make them "exempt" from the law, scooter, but it does make liars out of Trump and Bondi and Noem. They all keep saying that "most" of those being deported are violent criminals, and that's a lie, scooter. The deportations are not occurring to get violent criminals out of the country, scooter — they're occurring to get brown-skinned people out of the country to satisfy you fucking racists.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Mon Jun 30 14:05:40 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103uggn$29nhh$[email protected]...
    On 6/30/2025 7:33 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "Bradley K. Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103opc3$pon$[email protected]...
    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by >>>>>>>>>> | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles, >>>>>>>>>> | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids >>>>>>>> | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no- >>> criminal-record/>

    --bks

    Please define how the term "criminal record" is being used, and how a
    lack of a "criminal record" somehow should make one exempt from existing
    law.
    It doesn't make them "exempt" from the law, scooter,

    Then we don't have a problem.. keep up the deportations.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jun 30 12:12:03 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Scout wrote:
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>


    --bks

    Please define how the term "criminal record" is being used, and how a
    lack of a "criminal record" somehow should make one exempt from existing
    law.

    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jun 30 12:13:36 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Scout wrote:
    Then we don't have a problem.. keep up the deportations.

    With due process and no cruel nor excessive punishment.

    --
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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jun 30 12:19:21 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103pon4$13hgq$[email protected]...
    Martin wrote:
    On 28 Jun 2025, [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) posted some
    news:103opc3$pon$[email protected]:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by >>>>>>>>>>> | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles, >>>>>>>>>>> | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids >>>>>>>>> | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/

    Illegal is illegal. What part of that does your brain not fathom?
    Remember the famous Democrat mantra used to try and derail Trump's
    campaign, "Nobody is above the law"? How's that working out since he
    was elected POTUS despite left-wing lawfare?


    https://www.fox4news.com/news/immigration-enforcement-texas-agriculture>

    Immigration enforcement takes toll on Texas agriculture

    ELLIS COUNTY, Texas - State Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller says
    stepped-up immigration enforcement is taking a toll on the industry.

    Gee, I bet the bootleggers felt much the same when the alcohol control
    laws were enforced.




    3.2 beer was legalised during the prohibition to give brewers jobs.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jun 30 12:21:22 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Scout wrote:
    then technically every illegal alien has a criminal record the moment
    they are apprehended.

    Without conviction or even arraignment?

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  • From Lou Ricardo@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jun 30 15:11:11 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 6/30/2025 7:37 AM, Scout wrote:


    "NoBody" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:06:11 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by >>>>>>>>>> | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles, >>>>>>>>>> | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

      | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids >>>>>>>>   | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>

       --bks

    "according to internal government data obtained by CBS News" = sources
    say = complete nonsense.

    And if they are illegal, they are by definition criminals.

    Well actually given illegal entry carries a potential prison sentence
    even for a first offense.. then technically every illegal alien has a criminal record the moment they are apprehended.

    I suppose they meant "any criminal record other than these crimes"...

    Isn't it a crime to use someone else's social security number for
    employment and health benefits? That's what they are doing. That's how
    ICE caught all those illegals at Home Depot.

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  • From Lou Ricardo@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Mon Jun 30 15:18:45 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 6/30/2025 12:12 PM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Scout wrote:
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>


       --bks

    Please define how the term "criminal record" is being used, and how a
    lack of a "criminal record" somehow should make one exempt from existing
    law.

    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    ICE doesn't impose sentences.

    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    Illegal aliens resulted in the deaths of numerous Americans. Do you not
    care about them?

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.

    Shit happens. Eventually they get turned loose. No harm no foul.

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  • From Lou Ricardo@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Mon Jun 30 15:21:18 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 6/30/2025 12:21 PM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Scout wrote:
    then technically every illegal alien has a criminal record the moment
    they are apprehended.

    Without conviction or even arraignment?

    Don't do the crime if you don't want to do some time.

    In some countries they could be shot. In Africa they could be eaten.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Lou Ricardo on Mon Jun 30 19:52:37 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 6/30/25 18:11, Lou Ricardo wrote:
    ...
    Isn't it a crime to use someone else's social security number for
    employment and health benefits?  That's what they are doing.  That's how ICE caught all those illegals at Home Depot.

    No, they just rounded up anyone with the wrong skin color and hauled
    them back to HQ to figure out later who they actually were & if illegal.

    That's because Miller's mandate is a high quota of arrests. The masked mercenaries are getting paid by how many they grab, not if those were
    actually illegals: that's a disincentive to performing due diligence identification & why there's been US Citizens grabbed several times.


    -hh

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Jul 1 01:38:37 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 06:34:13 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 09:15:47 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    Democrats lie and claim it's okay for illegal aliens to ignore US laws, >>>>>>>>>> invade and trespass.

    How did you miss this part:


    When do you name names?

    What names?

    And you drunkenly snipped the actual quote:

    ">"More Than 9 In 10 Voters Say Politically Motivated Violence In The
    U.S. Is A Serious Problem""

    When do you stop running away and name names?

    And Siri the drunk passes out.


    You run away again.

    --
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jul 1 06:55:48 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 10:33:21 -0400, "Scout" <[email protected]> wrote:



    "Bradley K. Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message >news:103opc3$pon$[email protected]...
    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by
    | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids
    | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>

    --bks

    Please define how the term "criminal record" is being used, and how a lack
    of a "criminal record" somehow should make one exempt from existing law.



    Bradley doesn't answer questions as no one tells him what to think
    about the specific questions you ask.

    He can only repeat what the media tells him.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jul 1 06:57:49 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:12:03 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Scout wrote:
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>


    --bks

    Please define how the term "criminal record" is being used, and how a
    lack of a "criminal record" somehow should make one exempt from existing
    law.

    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.


    Tell us exactly how they are doing this.

    This should be good.

    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.

    Only if they are violating laws. The examples you've brought up
    previously have been debunked.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jul 1 07:01:43 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 10:37:02 -0400, "Scout" <[email protected]> wrote:



    "NoBody" <[email protected]> wrote in message >news:[email protected]...
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:06:11 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by >>>>>>>>>> | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles, >>>>>>>>>> | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids >>>>>>>> | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ... >>><https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>

    --bks

    "according to internal government data obtained by CBS News" = sources
    say = complete nonsense.

    And if they are illegal, they are by definition criminals.

    Well actually given illegal entry carries a potential prison sentence even >for a first offense.. then technically every illegal alien has a criminal >record the moment they are apprehended.

    I suppose they meant "any criminal record other than these crimes"...



    They like to pretend that illegal entry is not a crime.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jul 1 07:00:30 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 15:18:45 -0700, Lou Ricardo
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/30/2025 12:12 PM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Scout wrote:
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>


    �� --bks

    Please define how the term "criminal record" is being used, and how a
    lack of a "criminal record" somehow should make one exempt from existing >>> law.

    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    ICE doesn't impose sentences.

    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    Illegal aliens resulted in the deaths of numerous Americans. Do you not
    care about them?

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.

    Shit happens. Eventually they get turned loose. No harm no foul.


    And they get arrested for specific actions - the same actions that
    would get you or me arrested if we did them.


    Siri the drunk always distorts the truth.


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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Jul 1 08:25:35 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Tell us exactly how they are doing this.

    This should be good.

    Denial of medical care, clean food and water, clean cells. Bail set in
    court.

    US citizens are reporting this after being kidnapped.

    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.
    Only if they are violating laws. The examples you've brought up
    previously have been debunked.

    What laws are ICEstapo allowed to enforce against US citizens?

    FBI enforce federal laws against US citizens and everyone else.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Tue Jul 1 10:25:52 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103uo3d$2bfhr$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    then technically every illegal alien has a criminal record the moment
    they are apprehended.

    Without conviction or even arraignment?

    Yep.. Your criminal record starts with the accusation. Even if later shown non-guilty.. that record remains as your police record will continue to show you were arrested,

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Tue Jul 1 10:24:12 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103unvm$2bfss$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103pon4$13hgq$[email protected]...
    Martin wrote:
    On 28 Jun 2025, [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) posted some
    news:103opc3$pon$[email protected]:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by >>>>>>>>>>>> | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles, >>>>>>>>>>>> | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids >>>>>>>>>> | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/

    Illegal is illegal. What part of that does your brain not fathom?
    Remember the famous Democrat mantra used to try and derail Trump's
    campaign, "Nobody is above the law"? How's that working out since he
    was elected POTUS despite left-wing lawfare?


    https://www.fox4news.com/news/immigration-enforcement-texas-agriculture> >>>
    Immigration enforcement takes toll on Texas agriculture

    ELLIS COUNTY, Texas - State Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller says
    stepped-up immigration enforcement is taking a toll on the industry.

    Gee, I bet the bootleggers felt much the same when the alcohol control
    laws were enforced.




    3.2 beer was legalised during the prohibition to give brewers jobs.

    brewers =/= bootleggers

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Lou Ricardo on Tue Jul 1 10:28:57 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "Lou Ricardo" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103v21s$9rj$[email protected]...
    On 6/30/2025 7:37 AM, Scout wrote:


    "NoBody" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:06:11 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by >>>>>>>>>>> | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles, >>>>>>>>>>> | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids >>>>>>>>> | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>

    --bks

    "according to internal government data obtained by CBS News" = sources
    say = complete nonsense.

    And if they are illegal, they are by definition criminals.

    Well actually given illegal entry carries a potential prison sentence
    even for a first offense.. then technically every illegal alien has a
    criminal record the moment they are apprehended.

    I suppose they meant "any criminal record other than these crimes"...

    Isn't it a crime to use someone else's social security number for
    employment and health benefits? That's what they are doing. That's how
    ICE caught all those illegals at Home Depot.

    Also don't forget it's a crime to lie on a job application about your employment status. All that legalize at the bottom of the page just above
    where you sign it.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Tue Jul 1 10:38:31 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103unks$2bdhk$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    Then we don't have a problem.. keep up the deportations.

    With due process and no cruel nor excessive punishment.

    If they want to go before the judge.. the government will be asking for the fine and the jail time called for under federal law, or they waive the
    hearing and accept their deportation without a fine or jail time.

    There problem solved..

    Maybe those that chose to stay can pick crops while fulfilling their
    sentences to pay their fine.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Tue Jul 1 10:40:55 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103uni1$2bdhk$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>


    --bks

    Please define how the term "criminal record" is being used, and how a
    lack of a "criminal record" somehow should make one exempt from existing
    law.

    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    and how exactly are they doing that?

    Be precise and back up your claims.


    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.

    Yep, and some of those have been stripped of their citizenship in a court of law for their crimes.

    So what's your point?

    Citizens can't be arrested, or can't violate the law?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Jul 1 10:31:28 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "NoBody" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 10:37:02 -0400, "Scout" <[email protected]> wrote:



    "NoBody" <[email protected]> wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:06:11 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by >>>>>>>>>>> | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles, >>>>>>>>>>> | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids >>>>>>>>> | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ... >>>><https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>

    --bks

    "according to internal government data obtained by CBS News" = sources
    say = complete nonsense.

    And if they are illegal, they are by definition criminals.

    Well actually given illegal entry carries a potential prison sentence even >>for a first offense.. then technically every illegal alien has a criminal >>record the moment they are apprehended.

    I suppose they meant "any criminal record other than these crimes"...



    They like to pretend that illegal entry is not a crime.

    Their delusions allow them to believe a lot of lies.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Jul 1 10:43:12 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "NoBody" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 10:33:21 -0400, "Scout" <[email protected]> wrote:



    "Bradley K. Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message >>news:103opc3$pon$[email protected]...
    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by >>>>>>>>>> | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles, >>>>>>>>>> | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids >>>>>>>> | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>

    --bks

    Please define how the term "criminal record" is being used, and how a lack >>of a "criminal record" somehow should make one exempt from existing law.



    Bradley doesn't answer questions as no one tells him what to think
    about the specific questions you ask.

    He can only repeat what the media tells him.

    So he's a mindless parrot? That sounds about right..

    If I give him a cracker, will he shut up?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Tue Jul 1 12:08:09 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:1040ulc$2tokm$[email protected]...
    NoBody wrote:
    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Tell us exactly how they are doing this.

    This should be good.

    Denial of medical care, clean food and water, clean cells. Bail set in
    court.

    Cite? Oh, and you only need the court if bail is a possibility, as flight
    risks there would be no bail.

    US citizens are reporting this after being kidnapped.

    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.
    Only if they are violating laws. The examples you've brought up
    previously have been debunked.

    What laws are ICEstapo allowed to enforce against US citizens?

    Those in whose condition precluded their naturalization.

    " A. Person Procures Naturalization Illegally
    A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if he or she procured naturalization illegally. Procuring naturalization illegally simply means
    that the person was not eligible for naturalization in the first place. Accordingly, any eligibility requirement for naturalization that was not met can form the basis for an action to revoke the naturalization of a person.
    This includes the requirements of residence, physical presence, lawful admission for permanent residence, good moral character, and attachment to
    the U.S. Constitution.

    Discovery that a person failed to comply with any of the requirements for naturalization at the time the person became a U.S. citizen renders his or
    her naturalization illegally procured. This applies even if the person is innocent of any willful deception or misrepresentation."

    https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-l-chapter-2

    FBI enforce federal laws against US citizens and everyone else.

    Unless if fails under the umbrella of the INS or some other federal agency
    that has primary jurisdiction.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Tue Jul 1 12:22:43 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:UBT8Q.285976$[email protected]...
    On 7/1/2025 7:38 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103unks$2bdhk$2@dont- email.me...
    Scout wrote:
    Then we don't have a problem.. keep up the deportations.

    With due process and no cruel nor excessive punishment.

    If they want to go before the judge.. the government will be asking for
    the fine and the jail time called for under federal law,

    Unlawful presence carries no jail time as punishment, scooter,

    No, but if they can show they ever worked or did a bunch of other things
    while engaged in unlawful presence.. then they can bring THOSE charges and prosecute them for that which probably carries jail time.

    So while technically unlawful presence is not a criminal offense.. those actions you have to take to survive here ARE.

    because it is not a crime. Note that *none* of the people being deported
    by the Trump regime has been charged with improper entry, scooter.

    Then you've just confessed to being as ignorant as everyone things you are.

    "On January 20, 2025, President Donald Trump signed an executive order
    titled “Protecting the American People Against Invasion” which, among many other actions,orders a significant expansion of expedited removal in the
    United States."

    "Under the expanded expedited removal policy, undocumented immigrants (1) anywhere in the United States, (2) who cannot prove they have resided in the U.S. for at least two years will be subject to an expedited deportation process. The expedited removal guidelines apply to undocumented immigrants
    who have not been admitted to the U.S. This usually includes individuals who entered between Ports of Entry (i.e. unlawfully), but may also include those who were paroled into the U.S. and have their parole status revoked."

    https://immigrationforum.org/article/fact-sheet-expanded-expedited-removal/

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Tue Jul 1 12:24:48 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:9HT8Q.293563$[email protected]...
    On 7/1/2025 7:40 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103uni1$2bdhk$1@dont- email.me...
    Scout wrote:
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-
    criminal-record/>


    --bks

    Please define how the term "criminal record" is being used, and how a
    lack of a "criminal record" somehow should make one exempt from
    existing
    law.

    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.

    Yep, and some of those have been stripped of their citizenship in a court
    of law for their crimes.
    No, scooter. Not a single American citizen illegally seized by Trump's immigration Gestapo has had his citizenship revoked before being unconstitutionally deported.

    Your turn for a cite.

    I would challenge you to support your lie/claim,
    scooter, but we know you won't because you can't.

    Sorry, but I provided one already, it's now your turn.


    A naturalized citizen cannot have his citizenship revoked, scooter,
    *unless* it can be shown that he lied on his citizenship application and
    was not actually eligible for naturalization.

    So you admit they can have their naturalized citizenship revoked in certain cases.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Tue Jul 1 12:31:51 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:fYT8Q.48085$j%%[email protected]...
    On 7/1/2025 9:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1040ulc$2tokm$1@dont- email.me...
    NoBody wrote:
    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Tell us exactly how they are doing this.

    This should be good.

    Denial of medical care, clean food and water, clean cells. Bail set in
    court.

    Cite?

    says the bullshitting punk who never supports his claims.

    "Your claim = your burden of proof...which you never meet."

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Jul 1 10:56:10 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Scout wrote:
    What laws are ICEstapo allowed to enforce against US citizens?

    Those in whose condition precluded their naturalization.

    So ICEstapo has jurisdiction over all citizens born in the USA.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Jul 1 10:57:59 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103uo3d$2bfhr$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    then technically every illegal alien has a criminal record the moment
    they are apprehended.

    Without conviction or even arraignment?

    Yep.. Your criminal record starts with the accusation. Even if later
    shown non-guilty.. that record remains as your police record will
    continue to show you were arrested,




    So all Bondi has to do is accuse all native citizens of murder and we
    become deportable.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Jul 1 11:05:26 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Scout wrote:


    "Lou Ricardo" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103v21s$9rj$[email protected]...
    On 6/30/2025 7:37 AM, Scout wrote:


    "NoBody" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:06:11 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by >>>>>>>>>>>> | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles, >>>>>>>>>>>> | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids >>>>>>>>>> | despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>


    --bks

    "according to internal government data obtained by CBS News" = sources >>>> say = complete nonsense.

    And if they are illegal, they are by definition criminals.

    Well actually given illegal entry carries a potential prison sentence
    even for a first offense.. then technically every illegal alien has a
    criminal record the moment they are apprehended.

    I suppose they meant "any criminal record other than these crimes"...

    Isn't it a crime to use someone else's social security number for
    employment and health benefits? That's what they are doing. That's
    how ICE caught all those illegals at Home Depot.

    Also don't forget it's a crime to lie on a job application about your employment status. All that legalize at the bottom of the page just
    above where you sign it.



    <https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/lying-on-a-job-application>

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Jul 1 11:07:36 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Scout wrote:
    They like to pretend that illegal entry is not a crime.

    Their delusions allow them to believe a lot of lies.


    How do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt a crime was committed.

    I accuse you of illegal entry. That is that. You are now a criminal.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Jul 1 11:30:30 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103unks$2bdhk$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    Then we don't have a problem.. keep up the deportations.

    With due process and no cruel nor excessive punishment.

    If they want to go before the judge.. the government will be asking for
    the fine and the jail time called for under federal law, or they waive
    the hearing and accept their deportation without a fine or jail time.

    There problem solved..

    Maybe those that chose to stay can pick crops while fulfilling their sentences to pay their fine.

    Just enslave blacks again.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Jul 1 12:51:04 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Scout wrote:
    So while technically unlawful presence is not a criminal offense.. those actions you have to take to survive here ARE.

    Gatherring crops for farmers to sell?

    "On January 20, 2025, President Donald Trump signed an executive order
    titled “Protecting the American People Against Invasion” which, among many other actions,orders a significant expansion of expedited removal
    in the United States."

    Now presidents can create law by fiat.


    --
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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Tue Jul 1 13:09:26 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    No, but if they can show they ever worked or did a bunch of other
    things while engaged in unlawful presence.. then they can bring THOSE
    charges and prosecute them for that which probably carries jail time.

    You can't cite a single instance of a prosecution for that, scooter.


    That requires an Article 3 court. Those are expensive. And activate the
    4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th. The court must provide defence counsel if the
    accursed cannot pay for it. The immigration courts are far cheaper and
    outside the Bill of Rights. Feds cannot afford criminal prosecution for immigration enforcement.

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  • From Hartung's DD-214@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 03:44:33 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 01 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> posted some news:fYT8Q.48085$j%%[email protected]:

    On 7/1/2025 9:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1040ulc$2tokm$1@dont- email.me...
    NoBody wrote:
    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Tell us exactly how they are doing this.

    This should be good.

    Denial of medical care, clean food and water, clean cells. Bail set
    in court.

    Cite?

    says the bullshitting punk who never supports his claims.

    Argues the fool who can't support his.

    US citizens are reporting this after being kidnapped.

    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.
    Only if they are violating laws.  The examples you've brought up
    previously have been debunked.

    What laws are ICEstapo allowed to enforce against US citizens?

    Those in whose condition precluded their  naturalization.
    No, scooter. If someone fraudulently sought and obtained citizenship, scooter, it would be the DOJ that would take action against them.

    Why didn't the Biden DOJ do that?

    But we *know*, scooter, that Trump's immigration Gestapo *has*
    kidnapped and deported citizens, without even attempting to contest
    their citizenship.

    Lies. Federal agents have no need or incentive to kidnap.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Jul 1 22:13:25 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 7/1/25 10:38 AM, Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:103unks$2bdhk$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    Then we don't have a problem.. keep up the deportations.

    With due process and no cruel nor excessive punishment.

    If they want to go before the judge.. the government will be asking for
    the fine and the jail time called for under federal law, or they waive
    the hearing and accept their deportation without a fine or jail time.

    There problem solved..

    Maybe those that chose to stay can pick crops while fulfilling their sentences to pay their fine.

    Trump is already on that - 'work visas' for
    farm and other essential workers. Florida
    has long done that for Jamaican cane-cutters.
    They come all legal, do the job for a few
    months, then go home with enough money to
    live well the rest of the year.

    Anyway, if we're now a 'police state', why
    aren't AOC and friends already disappeared
    to an Alaskan gulag ? :-)

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jul 2 02:22:09 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    c186282 <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On 7/1/25 10:38 AM, Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103unks$2bdhk$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    Then we don't have a problem.. keep up the deportations.

    With due process and no cruel nor excessive punishment.

    If they want to go before the judge.. the government will be asking for
    the fine and the jail time called for under federal law, or they waive
    the hearing and accept their deportation without a fine or jail time.

    There problem solved..

    Maybe those that chose to stay can pick crops while fulfilling their
    sentences to pay their fine.

    Trump is already on that - 'work visas' for
    farm and other essential workers.


    Translation: Trump has suddenly
    realized America NEEDS the illegals,
    so he is backpeddling on deporting
    all of them, as he promised.

    He lied about them "poisoning
    our blood". Now they are "essential
    workers"

    Trump said the lie.

    You fell for the lie.

    MAGAs are sooo gullible, you know?

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  • From Dutch@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 04:51:09 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 01 Jul 2025, NoBody <[email protected]> posted some news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 10:37:02 -0400, "Scout"
    <[email protected]> wrote:



    "NoBody" <[email protected]> wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:06:11 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by >>>>>>>>>>> | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles, >>>>>>>>>>> | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during
    | raids despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ... >>>><https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-ha >>>>lf-no-criminal-record/>

    --bks

    "according to internal government data obtained by CBS News" =
    sources say = complete nonsense.

    And if they are illegal, they are by definition criminals.

    Well actually given illegal entry carries a potential prison sentence
    even for a first offense.. then technically every illegal alien has a >>criminal record the moment they are apprehended.

    I suppose they meant "any criminal record other than these crimes"...



    They like to pretend that illegal entry is not a crime.

    Until it becomes one, then it's the fault of the Republican president
    sitting in office.

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  • From left hand@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 09:30:51 2025
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    XPost: sac.politics

    On 01 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> posted some news:p3U8Q.104338$[email protected]:

    On 7/1/2025 9:22 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

    So while technically unlawful presence is not a criminal offense

    No, not just "technically," scooter — in pure fact.

    Present your unlawful presence argument while trespassing on private
    property at 2 AM in the morning and see what happens.

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  • From left hand@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 09:32:18 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 01 Jul 2025, "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> posted some news:10417fk$2vmme$[email protected]:

    Scout wrote:
    What laws are ICEstapo allowed to enforce against US citizens?

    Those in whose condition precluded their naturalization.

    So ICEstapo has jurisdiction over all citizens born in the USA.

    Your drugs are too strong today.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to left hand on Wed Jul 2 13:39:39 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    left hand <[email protected]> wrote in news:1042u8b$28km0$4
    @news.tcpreset.net:

    On 01 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> posted some news:p3U8Q.104338$[email protected]:

    On 7/1/2025 9:22 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

    So while technically unlawful presence is not a criminal offense

    No, not just "technically," scooter — in pure fact.

    Present your unlawful presence argument while trespassing on private
    property at 2 AM in the morning and see what happens.



    Shoot the tresassers! Defend your property!




    Black teen shot at doorstep after
    ringing wrong doorbell
    17 April 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2s3tkw8e



    Six-Year-Old Shot After Ball Rolled
    Into Neighbor's Yard
    Apr 20, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/32f5rzyj



    A 20-year-old woman was shot and killed
    after her friend turned into the wrong
    driveway
    April 19, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/mtsp94zh



    Illinois man charged with killing neighbor
    over a noisy leaf blower
    April 27, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/nbvvmap9



    Firefighter Shot, Killed While
    Responding To Medical Call
    JANUARY 22, 2016
    https://tinyurl.com/4z3sep8d

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Dutch on Wed Jul 2 13:31:33 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Dutch <[email protected]> wrote in news:20250702.045109.0bab8fb0 @msgid.frell.theremailer.net:

    On 01 Jul 2025, NoBody <[email protected]> posted some news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 10:37:02 -0400, "Scout" >><[email protected]> wrote:



    "NoBody" <[email protected]> wrote in message >>>news:[email protected]...
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:06:11 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out by >>>>>>>>>>>> | masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked vehicles, >>>>>>>>>>>> | are creating problems for local law enforcement agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during
    | raids despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ... >>>>><https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-
    ha
    lf-no-criminal-record/>

    --bks

    "according to internal government data obtained by CBS News" =
    sources say = complete nonsense.

    And if they are illegal, they are by definition criminals.

    Well actually given illegal entry carries a potential prison sentence >>>even for a first offense.. then technically every illegal alien has a >>>criminal record the moment they are apprehended.

    I suppose they meant "any criminal record other than these crimes"...



    They like to pretend that illegal entry is not a crime.

    Until it becomes one, then it's the fault of the Republican president
    sitting in office.




    Remember when the Trump campaign ranted
    about "Biden unchecked immigration" by showing
    a photo of migrants crossing the Rio Grande?
    A photo taken during Trump's first term......

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  • From Eunice Wunderlich@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 07:22:59 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/2/2025 2:30 AM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted
    child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 01 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> posted some news:p3U8Q.104338$[email protected]:

    On 7/1/2025 9:22 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

    So while technically unlawful presence is not a criminal offense

    No, not just "technically," scooter — in pure fact.

    Present your unlawful presence argument while trespassing

    Unlawful presence is not trespassing, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From AlleyCat@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 07:28:08 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/1/2025 6:44 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted
    child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 01 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> posted some news:fYT8Q.48085$j%%[email protected]:

    On 7/1/2025 9:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1040ulc$2tokm$1@dont- email.me...
    NoBody wrote:
    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Tell us exactly how they are doing this.

    This should be good.

    Denial of medical care, clean food and water, clean cells. Bail set
    in court.

    Cite?

    says the bullshitting punk who never supports his claims.

    US citizens are reporting this after being kidnapped.

    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.
    Only if they are violating laws.  The examples you've brought up
    previously have been debunked.

    What laws are ICEstapo allowed to enforce against US citizens?

    Those in whose condition precluded their  naturalization.
    No, scooter. If someone fraudulently sought and obtained citizenship,
    scooter, it would be the DOJ that would take action against them.

    Why didn't the Biden DOJ do that?

    You don't know of any naturalized citizens who lied on their citizenship requests, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger.


    But we *know*, scooter, that Trump's immigration Gestapo *has*
    kidnapped and deported citizens, without even attempting to contest
    their citizenship.

    Lies.

    No, Blowjob, it's not a lie, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Wed Jul 2 11:01:55 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:10417j1$2vmme$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103uo3d$2bfhr$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    then technically every illegal alien has a criminal record the moment
    they are apprehended.

    Without conviction or even arraignment?

    Yep.. Your criminal record starts with the accusation. Even if later
    shown non-guilty.. that record remains as your police record will
    continue to show you were arrested,




    So all Bondi has to do is accuse all native citizens of murder and we
    become deportable.

    and off into the weeds he goes.....

    Try again when you return to some sort of sanity

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Wed Jul 2 11:17:41 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:1041e72$31b8e$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    So while technically unlawful presence is not a criminal offense.. those
    actions you have to take to survive here ARE.

    Gatherring crops for farmers to sell?

    "On January 20, 2025, President Donald Trump signed an executive order
    titled “Protecting the American People Against Invasion” which, among
    many other actions,orders a significant expansion of expedited removal
    in the United States."

    Now presidents can create law by fiat.

    You're just now finding out about executive orders?

    You must be really pissed that Biden signed 167 of them... or at least
    someone pushed the button for the autopen to do so.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Wed Jul 2 11:13:55 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:1041852$2vtkp$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    They like to pretend that illegal entry is not a crime.

    Their delusions allow them to believe a lot of lies.


    How do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt a crime was committed.

    Pretty easily.. .

    Sir, where is your visa?
    You lost it? When did you realize it?
    Just now? Ok.....
    At what port of entry and on what date did you enter?
    Scan data base for that data.. nothing found'
    Expand time to be searched... nothing found
    Search all the data for that port of entry.. nothing found
    Search all the data for all ports of entry.. nothing found.
    Sir, it appears you are in the country illegally, without documentation of
    your entry or visa you will be subject to deportation proceedings.
    If it goes before the judge you may have to pay a $200 fine and spend up to
    6 months in jail. Is there anyone we can call that can assist you in showing you legally entered the country?

    etc..

    Eventually they either establish they entered legally, or they get deported.





    I accuse you of illegal entry. That is that. You are now a criminal.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jul 2 11:20:02 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "c186282" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    On 7/1/25 10:38 AM, Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103unks$2bdhk$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    Then we don't have a problem.. keep up the deportations.

    With due process and no cruel nor excessive punishment.

    If they want to go before the judge.. the government will be asking for
    the fine and the jail time called for under federal law, or they waive
    the hearing and accept their deportation without a fine or jail time.

    There problem solved..

    Maybe those that chose to stay can pick crops while fulfilling their
    sentences to pay their fine.

    Trump is already on that - 'work visas'

    Are hardly anything new... have had that since 90's

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Wed Jul 2 11:18:42 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:10419g0$309ab$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103unks$2bdhk$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    Then we don't have a problem.. keep up the deportations.

    With due process and no cruel nor excessive punishment.

    If they want to go before the judge.. the government will be asking for
    the fine and the jail time called for under federal law, or they waive
    the hearing and accept their deportation without a fine or jail time.

    There problem solved..

    Maybe those that chose to stay can pick crops while fulfilling their
    sentences to pay their fine.

    Just enslave blacks again.

    Hardly necessary. When you have people volunteering to do so...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Wed Jul 2 11:20:51 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:bhU8Q.291060$[email protected]...
    On 7/1/2025 9:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:9HT8Q.293563$[email protected]...
    On 7/1/2025 7:40 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103uni1$2bdhk$1@dont- email.me...
    Scout wrote:
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-
    no- criminal-record/>


    --bks

    Please define how the term "criminal record" is being used, and how a >>>>>> lack of a "criminal record" somehow should make one exempt from
    existing
    law.

    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.

    Yep, and some of those have been stripped of their citizenship in a
    court of law for their crimes.
    No, scooter. Not a single American citizen illegally seized by Trump's
    immigration Gestapo has had his citizenship revoked before being
    unconstitutionally deported.

    Your turn for a cite.

    No, scooter.

    we know, you can NEVER back up your bullshit.

    Well, if you can't produce cites.... you don't get to demand them.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Wed Jul 2 11:23:04 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:10417fk$2vmme$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    What laws are ICEstapo allowed to enforce against US citizens?

    Those in whose condition precluded their naturalization.

    So ICEstapo has jurisdiction over all citizens born in the USA.

    Those concepts I keep trying to pass on you just continue to slip through
    the fingers of your mind...

    What you said, has NOTHING to do with anything I said.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Jul 2 11:50:06 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 15:18:45 -0700, Lou Ricardo
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    <snip>

    Shit happens. Eventually they get turned loose. No harm no foul.

    Until somebody misses a paycheck and gets an eviction notice.

    Or has to sit in a crappy jail for weeks.

    <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney>

    I’m the Canadian who was detained by Ice for two weeks. It
    felt like I had been kidnapped

    I was stuck in a freezing cell without explanation despite
    eventually having lawyers and media attention. Yet, compared
    with others, I was lucky

    Or dies.

    <https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/canadian-national-ice-custody-passes-away>

    MIAMI — Johnny Noviello, a 49-year-old citizen of Canada in
    the custody of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, was
    pronounced deceased by the Miami Fire Rescue Department June
    23 at 1:36 p.m. The cause of death is still under
    investigation.

    Noviello was being detained at the Bureau of Prisons Federal
    Detention Center pending removal proceedings when he was found
    unresponsive June 23, at 12:54 p.m. Medical staff responded
    immediately and began administering cardiopulmonary
    resuscitation, automated external defibrillator shock and
    called 911.

    --
    A horse breeder has his young colts bottle-fed after they're three
    days old. He heard that a foal and his mummy are soon parted.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jul 2 12:04:16 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 12:31:51 -0400, "Scout" <[email protected]> wrote:



    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message >news:fYT8Q.48085$j%%[email protected]...
    On 7/1/2025 9:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1040ulc$2tokm$1@dont- email.me...
    NoBody wrote:
    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Tell us exactly how they are doing this.

    This should be good.

    Denial of medical care, clean food and water, clean cells. Bail set in >>>> court.

    Cite?

    says the bullshitting punk who never supports his claims.

    "Your claim = your burden of proof...which you never meet."

    Ignore Rudely. He's a documented liar and is best found in the bottom
    of a kill file.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jul 2 12:03:22 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 08:25:35 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Tell us exactly how they are doing this.

    This should be good.

    Denial of medical care, clean food and water, clean cells. Bail set in
    court.

    Evidence of your claims? BTW, an illegal is entitled to only a
    hearing then may be deported.


    US citizens are reporting this after being kidnapped.

    Laughter!

    Citation?


    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.
    Only if they are violating laws. The examples you've brought up
    previously have been debunked.

    What laws are ICEstapo allowed to enforce against US citizens?

    First tell us which US citizens have been arrested by ICE.


    FBI enforce federal laws against US citizens and everyone else.

    Duh.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jul 2 12:05:09 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 11:07:36 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Scout wrote:
    They like to pretend that illegal entry is not a crime.

    Their delusions allow them to believe a lot of lies.


    How do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt a crime was committed.

    I accuse you of illegal entry. That is that. You are now a criminal.

    Siri: "Hic!"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jul 2 12:07:07 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 11:01:55 -0400, "Scout" <[email protected]> wrote:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message >news:10417j1$2vmme$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103uo3d$2bfhr$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    then technically every illegal alien has a criminal record the moment >>>>> they are apprehended.

    Without conviction or even arraignment?

    Yep.. Your criminal record starts with the accusation. Even if later
    shown non-guilty.. that record remains as your police record will
    continue to show you were arrested,




    So all Bondi has to do is accuse all native citizens of murder and we
    become deportable.

    and off into the weeds he goes.....

    Try again when you return to some sort of sanity


    Sanity, sobriety...whatever it takes.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Jul 2 09:10:27 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 7/2/2025 9:07 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 11:01:55 -0400, "Scout" <[email protected]> wrote:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:10417j1$2vmme$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103uo3d$2bfhr$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    then technically every illegal alien has a criminal record the moment >>>>>> they are apprehended.

    Without conviction or even arraignment?

    Yep.. Your criminal record starts with the accusation. Even if later
    shown non-guilty.. that record remains as your police record will
    continue to show you were arrested,




    So all Bondi has to do is accuse all native citizens of murder and we
    become deportable.

    and off into the weeds he goes.....

    Try again when you return to some sort of sanity


    Sanity, sobriety...whatever it takes.
    Why did you waste time posting that worthless throwaway comment? Is your time really of no value?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Jul 2 11:44:21 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "Governor Swill" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 11:07:36 -0700, "chine.bleu" wrote:
    Scout wrote:
    They like to pretend that illegal entry is not a crime.
    Their delusions allow them to believe a lot of lies.
    How do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt a crime was committed.

    I accuse you of illegal entry. That is that. You are now a criminal.

    ... if you can't prove your citizenship. Trouble is, few Americans
    are walking around with proof of their citizenship in their pocket.

    No Driver's license?

    While not necessarily conclusive (unless it's the newer Real ID) it often
    links back to such documentation via your SSN

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Jul 2 11:48:33 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "Governor Swill" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 11:30:30 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103unks$2bdhk$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    Then we don't have a problem.. keep up the deportations.

    With due process and no cruel nor excessive punishment.

    If they want to go before the judge.. the government will be asking for
    the fine and the jail time called for under federal law, or they waive
    the hearing and accept their deportation without a fine or jail time.

    There problem solved..

    Maybe those that chose to stay can pick crops while fulfilling their
    sentences to pay their fine.

    Just enslave blacks again.

    Shh . . . That's MAGA's long game.

    Well, it certainly seems to be one the Democrats would favor.... though they are perfectly happy keeping them as 2nd class citizens who work to keep them
    in power so as to keep getting them aid which helps maintain them in the poverty that Democrat policies help perpetuate.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Jul 2 11:49:53 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "Governor Swill" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 15:18:45 -0700, Lou Ricardo
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/30/2025 12:12 PM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Scout wrote:
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>


    --bks

    Please define how the term "criminal record" is being used, and how a
    lack of a "criminal record" somehow should make one exempt from
    existing
    law.

    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    ICE doesn't impose sentences.

    Then why is it jailing people without due process?

    The same reason most people are kept in jail pending the disposition of
    their case, they are either dangerous or a flight risk.


    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    Illegal aliens resulted in the deaths of numerous Americans. Do you not >>care about them?

    I care more about the fifty thousand killed by American citizens than
    I do about the dozens killed by illegal immigrants. Fact is, I'd feel
    a helluva lot safer in an immigrant neighborhood than an all white
    one.

    We acknowledge your admission of racism.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Scout on Wed Jul 2 10:19:54 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Scout wrote:


    "c186282" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    On 7/1/25 10:38 AM, Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103unks$2bdhk$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    Then we don't have a problem.. keep up the deportations.

    With due process and no cruel nor excessive punishment.

    If they want to go before the judge.. the government will be asking
    for the fine and the jail time called for under federal law, or they
    waive the hearing and accept their deportation without a fine or jail
    time.

    There problem solved..

    Maybe those that chose to stay can pick crops while fulfilling their
    sentences to pay their fine.

    Trump is already on that - 'work visas'

    Are hardly anything new... have had that since 90's




    Can farmers distribute enough for harvest in time for harvest at a cost
    less than harvest's profits?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Scout on Wed Jul 2 10:15:40 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:1041852$2vtkp$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    They like to pretend that illegal entry is not a crime.

    Their delusions allow them to believe a lot of lies.


    How do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt a crime was committed.

    Pretty easily.. .

    Sir, where is your visa?

    Before any interrogation for a crime, you have to be given a warning.

    You have the right to refuse to answer questions and to not speak to the police.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Jul 2 10:23:52 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    Ignore Rudely. He's a documented liar and is best found in the bottom
    of a kill file.

    Pot. Kettle. Chartreuse.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Jul 2 10:31:27 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 7/2/2025 9:04 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 12:31:51 -0400, "Scout" <[email protected]> wrote:



    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:fYT8Q.48085$j%%[email protected]...
    On 7/1/2025 9:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1040ulc$2tokm$1@dont- email.me...
    NoBody wrote:
    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Tell us exactly how they are doing this.

    This should be good.

    Denial of medical care, clean food and water, clean cells. Bail set in >>>>> court.

    Cite?

    says the bullshitting punk who never supports his claims.

    "Your claim = your burden of proof...which you never meet."

    Ignore Prof. Canoza.

    scooter can't ignore me, you stupid fucking troll.

    He's a documented liar and

    No, Kremlin Girl. You're the documented liar and stupid fucking troll.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Wed Jul 2 14:38:38 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:1043pnk$3kj2r$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:


    "c186282" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    On 7/1/25 10:38 AM, Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:103unks$2bdhk$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    Then we don't have a problem.. keep up the deportations.

    With due process and no cruel nor excessive punishment.

    If they want to go before the judge.. the government will be asking
    for the fine and the jail time called for under federal law, or they
    waive the hearing and accept their deportation without a fine or jail
    time.

    There problem solved..

    Maybe those that chose to stay can pick crops while fulfilling their
    sentences to pay their fine.

    Trump is already on that - 'work visas'

    Are hardly anything new... have had that since 90's




    Can farmers distribute enough for harvest in time for harvest at a cost
    less than harvest's profits?

    Who cares if city bound liberals get enough food.. they are the ones that advocated turning a blind eye to this for four years..... now they get to
    deal with the consequences of their choice.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Jul 3 07:05:38 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 11:49:53 -0400, "Scout" <[email protected]> wrote:



    "Governor Swill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 15:18:45 -0700, Lou Ricardo
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/30/2025 12:12 PM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Scout wrote:
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>


    --bks

    Please define how the term "criminal record" is being used, and how a >>>>>> lack of a "criminal record" somehow should make one exempt from
    existing
    law.

    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    ICE doesn't impose sentences.

    Then why is it jailing people without due process?

    The same reason most people are kept in jail pending the disposition of
    their case, they are either dangerous or a flight risk.

    Well being illegal is special. We're not supposed to enforce laws
    when it comes to them dontchaknow.



    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    Illegal aliens resulted in the deaths of numerous Americans. Do you not >>>> care about them?

    I care more about the fifty thousand killed by American citizens than
    I do about the dozens killed by illegal immigrants. Fact is, I'd feel
    a helluva lot safer in an immigrant neighborhood than an all white
    one.

    We acknowledge your admission of racism.


    Liberals usually are.


    Everyone waits breathlessly for your next deep insight.

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  • From Al Feldhauser@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 3 08:35:08 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/2/2025 5:44 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted
    child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 02 Jul 2025, AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/1/2025 6:44 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted
    child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 01 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> posted some
    news:fYT8Q.48085$j%%[email protected]:

    On 7/1/2025 9:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1040ulc$2tokm$1@dont- email.me...
    NoBody wrote:
    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Tell us exactly how they are doing this.

    This should be good.

    Denial of medical care, clean food and water, clean cells. Bail set >>>>>> in court.

    Cite?

    says the bullshitting punk who never supports his claims.

    US citizens are reporting this after being kidnapped.

    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.
    Only if they are violating laws. The examples you've brought up >>>>>>> previously have been debunked.

    What laws are ICEstapo allowed to enforce against US citizens?

    Those in whose condition precluded their naturalization.
    No, scooter. If someone fraudulently sought and obtained citizenship,
    scooter, it would be the DOJ that would take action against them.

    Why didn't the Biden DOJ do that?

    You don't know of any naturalized citizens who lied on their citizenship
    requests, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger.

    You don't know of

    You don't know of any naturalized citizens who lied on their citizenship requests, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger.

    But we *know*, scooter, that Trump's immigration Gestapo *has*
    kidnapped and deported citizens, without even attempting to contest
    their citizenship.

    Lies.

    No, Blowjob, it's not a lie, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger.

    <crickets>

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Thu Jul 3 12:06:03 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:1044a2a$3o61m$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    The same reason most people are kept in jail pending the disposition of
    their case, they are either dangerous or a flight risk.


    They have to appear before a judge within a day or two where the judge
    sets bail. As required by the 8th the bail has to be reasonable.

    and as an illegal with no ties to the community.. they are a flight risk,
    and thus can't get bail.

    Oh, and if you think bail is has to be offered.. you're wrong

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Scout on Thu Jul 3 11:04:06 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:1044a2a$3o61m$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    The same reason most people are kept in jail pending the disposition of
    their case, they are either dangerous or a flight risk.


    They have to appear before a judge within a day or two where the judge
    sets bail. As required by the 8th the bail has to be reasonable.

    and as an illegal with no ties to the community.. they are a flight
    risk, and thus can't get bail.

    Citizens are flight risks?

    Oh, and if you think bail is has to be offered.. you're wrong

    It the judge's decision, not yours or TACO's.


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  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 4 07:28:42 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 02 Jul 2025, Rudy Canoza Scout
    <[email protected]> posted
    some news:P1e9Q.75767$[email protected]:

    On 7/2/2025 9:04 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 12:31:51 -0400, "Scout"
    <[email protected]> wrote:



    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:fYT8Q.48085$j%%[email protected]...
    On 7/1/2025 9:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1040ulc$2tokm$1@dont- email.me...
    NoBody wrote:
    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Tell us exactly how they are doing this.

    This should be good.

    Denial of medical care, clean food and water, clean cells. Bail
    set in court.

    Cite?

    says the bullshitting punk who never supports his claims.

    "Your claim = your burden of proof...which you never meet."

    Ignore Prof. Canoza.

    scooter can't ignore me, you stupid fucking troll.

    He certainly makes you look like a perforated asshole.

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  • From Dutch@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 4 08:11:46 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 03 Jul 2025, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> posted some news:[email protected]:

    Dutch <[email protected]> wrote in news:20250703.082628.700509e6 @msgid.frell.theremailer.net:

    On 02 Jul 2025, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> posted some
    news:[email protected]:

    Dutch <[email protected]> wrote in news:20250702.045109.0bab8fb0
    @msgid.frell.theremailer.net:

    On 01 Jul 2025, NoBody <[email protected]> posted some
    news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 10:37:02 -0400, "Scout" >>>>><[email protected]> wrote:



    "NoBody" <[email protected]> wrote in message >>>>>>news:[email protected]...
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:06:11 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley
    K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | to American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | by masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked
    vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement
    agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during >>>>>>>>>>>>> | raids despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ... >>>>>>>><https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-
    detainees-
    ha
    lf-no-criminal-record/>

    --bks

    "according to internal government data obtained by CBS News" =
    sources say = complete nonsense.

    And if they are illegal, they are by definition criminals.

    Well actually given illegal entry carries a potential prison
    sentence
    even for a first offense.. then technically every illegal alien
    has
    a
    criminal record the moment they are apprehended.

    I suppose they meant "any criminal record other than these
    crimes"...



    They like to pretend that illegal entry is not a crime.

    Until it becomes one, then it's the fault of the Republican
    president sitting in office.

    Remember when the Trump campaign ranted
    about "Biden unchecked immigration" by showing
    a photo of migrants crossing the Rio Grande?
    A photo taken during Trump's first term......

    Nope.

    Highest single day record of migrants crossing border, FOX sources

    https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/single-day-record-migrants-crossing-
    border

    Photo shows Central American migrants in 2018,
    not 2023 "invasion"
    May 8, 2023

    CLAIM: An aerial picture of migrants
    crossing a bridge,

    There's no bridge in the photo you moron.

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  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 4 08:39:13 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 03 Jul 2025, Dumb Rudy Al Feldhauser <[email protected]> is too
    stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/2/2025 5:44 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 02 Jul 2025, AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/1/2025 6:44 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
    obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 01 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> posted some
    news:fYT8Q.48085$j%%[email protected]:

    On 7/1/2025 9:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
    and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1040ulc$2tokm$1@dont- email.me...
    NoBody wrote:
    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Tell us exactly how they are doing this.

    This should be good.

    Denial of medical care, clean food and water, clean cells. Bail
    set in court.

    Cite?

    says the bullshitting punk who never supports his claims.

    US citizens are reporting this after being kidnapped.

    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.
    Only if they are violating laws. The examples you've brought >>>>>>>> up previously have been debunked.

    What laws are ICEstapo allowed to enforce against US citizens?

    Those in whose condition precluded their naturalization.
    No, scooter. If someone fraudulently sought and obtained
    citizenship, scooter, it would be the DOJ that would take action
    against them.

    Why didn't the Biden DOJ do that?

    You don't know of any naturalized citizens who lied on their
    citizenship requests, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft
    dodger.

    You don't know of

    You don't know of any naturalized citizens who lied on their
    citizenship requests,

    Rudy has no answers and he still doesn't know who is kicking dirt in his
    face.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jul 4 08:48:53 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 12:06:03 -0400, "Scout" <[email protected]> wrote:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message >news:1044a2a$3o61m$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    The same reason most people are kept in jail pending the disposition of
    their case, they are either dangerous or a flight risk.


    They have to appear before a judge within a day or two where the judge
    sets bail. As required by the 8th the bail has to be reasonable.

    and as an illegal with no ties to the community.. they are a flight risk,
    and thus can't get bail.

    Oh, and if you think bail is has to be offered.. you're wrong


    Well he's from Calfornia so one can understand that he has no idea how
    the system actually works.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jul 4 08:50:38 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 11:04:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1044a2a$3o61m$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    The same reason most people are kept in jail pending the disposition of >>>> their case, they are either dangerous or a flight risk.


    They have to appear before a judge within a day or two where the judge
    sets bail. As required by the 8th the bail has to be reasonable.

    and as an illegal with no ties to the community.. they are a flight
    risk, and thus can't get bail.

    Citizens are flight risks?

    Which citizens? This discussion is about illegals who aren't
    citizens.

    Duh..


    Oh, and if you think bail is has to be offered.. you're wrong

    It the judge's decision, not yours or TACO's.

    Actually the judge follows (or should) whatever law is provided to him
    so it's not really his decision.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 4 08:47:42 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 08:39:13 +0200, burch cassidy <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 03 Jul 2025, Dumb Rudy Al Feldhauser <[email protected]> is too >stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/2/2025 5:44 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese
    convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 02 Jul 2025, AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/1/2025 6:44 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
    obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 01 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> posted some
    news:fYT8Q.48085$j%%[email protected]:

    On 7/1/2025 9:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
    and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1040ulc$2tokm$1@dont- email.me...
    NoBody wrote:
    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Tell us exactly how they are doing this.

    This should be good.

    Denial of medical care, clean food and water, clean cells. Bail >>>>>>>> set in court.

    Cite?

    says the bullshitting punk who never supports his claims.

    US citizens are reporting this after being kidnapped.

    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.
    Only if they are violating laws. The examples you've brought >>>>>>>>> up previously have been debunked.

    What laws are ICEstapo allowed to enforce against US citizens?

    Those in whose condition precluded their naturalization.
    No, scooter. If someone fraudulently sought and obtained
    citizenship, scooter, it would be the DOJ that would take action
    against them.

    Why didn't the Biden DOJ do that?

    You don't know of any naturalized citizens who lied on their
    citizenship requests, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft
    dodger.

    You don't know of

    You don't know of any naturalized citizens who lied on their
    citizenship requests,

    Rudy has no answers and he still doesn't know who is kicking dirt in his >face.

    Rudley is the little fat kid we all knew who wanted to play but no one
    would let him.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jul 4 08:46:32 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 07:05:38 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 11:49:53 -0400, "Scout"
    <[email protected]> wrote:



    "Governor Swill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 15:18:45 -0700, Lou Ricardo
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/30/2025 12:12 PM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Scout wrote:
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/>


    --bks

    Please define how the term "criminal record" is being used, and how a >>>>>>> lack of a "criminal record" somehow should make one exempt from
    existing
    law.

    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    ICE doesn't impose sentences.

    Then why is it jailing people without due process?

    The same reason most people are kept in jail pending the disposition of
    their case, they are either dangerous or a flight risk.

    Well being illegal is special. We're not supposed to enforce laws
    when it comes to them dontchaknow.



    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    Illegal aliens resulted in the deaths of numerous Americans. Do you not >>>>> care about them?

    I care more about the fifty thousand killed by American citizens than
    I do about the dozens killed by illegal immigrants. Fact is, I'd feel >>>> a helluva lot safer in an immigrant neighborhood than an all white
    one.

    We acknowledge your admission of racism.


    Liberals usually are.


    Everyone waits breathlessly for your next deep insight.

    The irony bell tolls for thee...

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Jul 4 06:29:23 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 11:04:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1044a2a$3o61m$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    The same reason most people are kept in jail pending the disposition of >>>>> their case, they are either dangerous or a flight risk.


    They have to appear before a judge within a day or two where the judge >>>> sets bail. As required by the 8th the bail has to be reasonable.

    and as an illegal with no ties to the community.. they are a flight
    risk, and thus can't get bail.

    Citizens are flight risks?

    Which citizens? This discussion is about illegals who aren't
    citizens.

    Duh..

    No. The discussion is immigrants can be detained without end because
    police can detain citizens indefinitely.

    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention.

    It the judge's decision, not yours or TACO's.

    Actually the judge follows (or should) whatever law is provided to him
    so it's not really his decision.

    You can try appealing, but otherwise, it is the judge's decision.

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  • From Al Feldhauser@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 4 09:23:24 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/3/2025 11:39 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 03 Jul 2025, Al Feldhauser <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 7/2/2025 5:44 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese
    convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 02 Jul 2025, AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/1/2025 6:44 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
    obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 01 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> posted some
    news:fYT8Q.48085$j%%[email protected]:

    On 7/1/2025 9:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
    and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1040ulc$2tokm$1@dont- email.me...
    NoBody wrote:
    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Tell us exactly how they are doing this.

    This should be good.

    Denial of medical care, clean food and water, clean cells. Bail >>>>>>>> set in court.

    Cite?

    says the bullshitting punk who never supports his claims.

    US citizens are reporting this after being kidnapped.

    Violating anyone's rights endangers all of us.

    ICEstapo is arresting US citizens.
    Only if they are violating laws. The examples you've brought >>>>>>>>> up previously have been debunked.

    What laws are ICEstapo allowed to enforce against US citizens?

    Those in whose condition precluded their naturalization.
    No, scooter. If someone fraudulently sought and obtained
    citizenship, scooter, it would be the DOJ that would take action
    against them.

    Why didn't the Biden DOJ do that?

    You don't know of any naturalized citizens who lied on their
    citizenship requests, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft
    dodger.

    You don't know of

    You don't know of any naturalized citizens who lied on their citizenship
    requests, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger.

    Rudy has

    the receipts. Yes, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger, I do.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From algorithmic behavior@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 4 15:09:48 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/3/2025 10:28 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 02 Jul 2025, Scout <[email protected]> posted
    some news:P1e9Q.75767$[email protected]:

    On 7/2/2025 9:04 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 12:31:51 -0400, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:




    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:fYT8Q.48085$j%%[email protected]...
    On 7/1/2025 9:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1040ulc$2tokm$1@dont- email.me...
    NoBody wrote:
    ICEstapo is violating the 8th Amendment.

    Tell us exactly how they are doing this.

    This should be good.

    Denial of medical care, clean food and water, clean cells. Bail
    set in court.

    Cite?

    says the bullshitting punk who never supports his claims.

    "Your claim = your burden of proof...which you never meet."

    Ignore Prof. Canoza.

    scooter can't ignore me, you stupid fucking troll.

    He certainly makes you look like

    the brilliant person I am? No, Blowjob, he doesn't — I do that without anyone's
    assistance.

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  • From Alan Bond@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 4 15:10:37 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/3/2025 11:11 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 03 Jul 2025, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> posted some news:[email protected]:

    Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:


    On 02 Jul 2025, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> posted some
    news:[email protected]:

    Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:


    On 01 Jul 2025, NoBody <[email protected]> posted some
    news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 10:37:02 -0400, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:




    "NoBody" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:06:11 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley
    K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Why Are Federal Agents Wearing Masks? It's a Threat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | to American Democracy

    | Increasingly aggressive immigration raids carried out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | by masked federal agents, sometimes using unmarked
    vehicles,
    | are creating problems for local law enforcement
    agencies.

    | Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | raids despite video evidence

    |
    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-
    detainees-
    ha
    lf-no-criminal-record/>

    --bks

    "according to internal government data obtained by CBS News" = >>>>>>>> sources say = complete nonsense.

    And if they are illegal, they are by definition criminals.

    Well actually given illegal entry carries a potential prison
    sentence
    even for a first offense.. then technically every illegal alien
    has
    a
    criminal record the moment they are apprehended.

    I suppose they meant "any criminal record other than these
    crimes"...



    They like to pretend that illegal entry is not a crime.

    Until it becomes one, then it's the fault of the Republican
    president sitting in office.

    Remember when the Trump campaign ranted
    about "Biden unchecked immigration" by showing
    a photo of migrants crossing the Rio Grande?
    A photo taken during Trump's first term......

    Nope.

    Highest single day record of migrants crossing border, FOX sources

    https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/single-day-record-migrants-crossing-
    border

    Photo shows Central American migrants in 2018,
    not 2023 "invasion"
    May 8, 2023

    CLAIM: An aerial picture of migrants
    crossing a bridge,

    There's no bridge in the photo you moron.

    In the article that Holman linked, Blowjob, you unethical *fat* cocksucker, there is another link to the photo of the bridge.

    Restore Holman's link that Blowjob unethically snipped: https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-photo-central-american-migrants- 2018-biden-976925890807

    From the article:

    CLAIM: An aerial picture of migrants crossing a bridge, some holding flags,
    shows an “invasion” of the U.S. that was “authorized” by President Joe Biden.

    AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The _image in question_, which shows Central American
    migrants traveling in Mexico toward the U.S., was taken in 2018.

    Link for the "image in question": https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/aerial-view-of-honduran-migrants-heading-in-a-caravan-to-news-photo/1054273390

    It shows the bridge, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri Jul 4 17:04:57 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 23:52:02 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 7/2/25 11:58 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    On 7/2/2025 8:13 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1041852$2vtkp$2@dont- email.me...
    Scout wrote:
    They like to pretend that illegal entry is not a crime.

    Their delusions allow them to believe a lot of lies.


    How do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt a crime was committed.

    Pretty easily.. .

    Sir, where is your visa?
    Why has the ICEstapo agent detained the person in the first place,
    scooter? Why don't you know the legal requirements for a lawful
    detention, scooter?


    Clue ... doesn't count for illegals anymore.

    Lefties want to tie this up in infinite legal
    paperwork, it's a strategy. Trump is going to
    defeat that strategy. Wish it didn't have to
    be that way, but it does.

    Iow, he's breaking the law because he doesn't like the way it works?


    Which is why citizens are being kidnapped.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri Jul 4 17:08:30 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 09:30:51 -0000 (UTC), left hand <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 01 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> posted some
    news:p3U8Q.104338$[email protected]:

    On 7/1/2025 9:22 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

    So while technically unlawful presence is not a criminal offense

    No, not just "technically," scooter — in pure fact.

    Present your unlawful presence argument while trespassing on private
    property at 2 AM in the morning and see what happens.

    How about 2 AM in the afternoon?


    Police do not resolve occupancy disputes. Those go to a court, and then
    the sheriff enforces the court decision.

    Due process.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Jul 5 07:10:42 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 23:52:02 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

    <snip>

    Lefties want to tie this up in infinite legal
    paperwork, it's a strategy. Trump is going to
    defeat that strategy. Wish it didn't have to
    be that way, but it does.

    Iow, he's breaking the law because he doesn't like the way it works?

    Reminds me of Nixon on NatLamp's "Missing White House Tapes":

    If there are laws we disagree with, let us work to change
    those laws. But let us not obey them until they are changed.

    --
    It won't be covered in the book. The source code has to be useful for something, after all... :-)
    -- Larry Wall in <[email protected]>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jul 5 08:36:10 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 06:29:23 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 11:04:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1044a2a$3o61m$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    The same reason most people are kept in jail pending the disposition of >>>>>> their case, they are either dangerous or a flight risk.


    They have to appear before a judge within a day or two where the judge >>>>> sets bail. As required by the 8th the bail has to be reasonable.

    and as an illegal with no ties to the community.. they are a flight
    risk, and thus can't get bail.

    Citizens are flight risks?

    Which citizens? This discussion is about illegals who aren't
    citizens.

    Duh..

    No. The discussion is immigrants can be detained without end because
    police can detain citizens indefinitely.

    Show us where this is happening and don't mix the terms immigrants
    with citizens because that's less than honest. The media uses the
    term "immigrants" for illegals.


    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention.

    You seemed fine with holding Jan 6 protestors without bail or trial.


    It the judge's decision, not yours or TACO's.

    Actually the judge follows (or should) whatever law is provided to him
    so it's not really his decision.

    You can try appealing, but otherwise, it is the judge's decision.

    So you're now admitting the judges are acting lawlessly. Got it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jul 5 08:38:38 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 17:08:30 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 09:30:51 -0000 (UTC), left hand <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 01 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> posted some
    news:p3U8Q.104338$[email protected]:

    On 7/1/2025 9:22 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

    So while technically unlawful presence is not a criminal offense

    No, not just "technically," scooter — in pure fact.

    Present your unlawful presence argument while trespassing on private
    property at 2 AM in the morning and see what happens.

    How about 2 AM in the afternoon?


    Police do not resolve occupancy disputes. Those go to a court, and then
    the sheriff enforces the court decision.

    You're being dishonest...again.
    Occupancy is being mixed with tresspassing. If someone from out of
    nowhere walks into your house, that's not an occupancy dispute.


    Due process.

    Drunk process.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jul 5 08:39:17 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 17:04:57 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 23:52:02 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 7/2/25 11:58 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    On 7/2/2025 8:13 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1041852$2vtkp$2@dont- email.me...
    Scout wrote:
    They like to pretend that illegal entry is not a crime.

    Their delusions allow them to believe a lot of lies.


    How do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt a crime was committed.

    Pretty easily.. .

    Sir, where is your visa?
    Why has the ICEstapo agent detained the person in the first place,
    scooter? Why don't you know the legal requirements for a lawful
    detention, scooter?


    Clue ... doesn't count for illegals anymore.

    Lefties want to tie this up in infinite legal
    paperwork, it's a strategy. Trump is going to
    defeat that strategy. Wish it didn't have to
    be that way, but it does.

    Iow, he's breaking the law because he doesn't like the way it works?


    Which is why citizens are being kidnapped.

    Citations required.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Jul 5 06:09:36 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention.
    You seemed fine with holding Jan 6 protestors without bail or trial.



    Did they waive speedy trial?

    --
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  • From gator alley@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 5 20:04:06 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 05 Jul 2025, "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> posted some news:104b86h$1gjup$[email protected]:

    NoBody wrote:
    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention.
    You seemed fine with holding Jan 6 protestors without bail or trial.



    Did they waive speedy trial?

    Doesn't matter if they did. The Jan 6 courts deliberately drag-footed
    cases to keep protestors in jail while refusing to prosecute rioters in Minnesota, Oregon, Washington, Pennsylvania. California stood apart
    from the others, arresting and prosecuting left-wing extremists who got
    out of hand.

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  • From left hand@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 5 21:08:14 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 04 Jul 2025, "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> posted some news:1048kvn$rblv$[email protected]:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 11:04:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1044a2a$3o61m$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    The same reason most people are kept in jail pending the
    disposition of their case, they are either dangerous or a flight
    risk.


    They have to appear before a judge within a day or two where the
    judge sets bail. As required by the 8th the bail has to be
    reasonable.

    and as an illegal with no ties to the community.. they are a flight
    risk, and thus can't get bail.

    Citizens are flight risks?

    Which citizens? This discussion is about illegals who aren't
    citizens.

    Duh..

    No. The discussion is immigrants can be detained without end because
    police can detain citizens indefinitely.

    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention.

    That's easy. Do it the same way J. Edgar Hoover did, into the mental
    hospital with you.

    It the judge's decision, not yours or TACO's.

    Actually the judge follows (or should) whatever law is provided to
    him so it's not really his decision.

    You can try appealing, but otherwise, it is the judge's decision.

    Lol. Hannah Dugan, the judge who should never be allowed in a courtroom
    again.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan Bond@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 5 14:21:04 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/5/2025 1:04 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted
    child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 05 Jul 2025, "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> posted some news:104b86h$1gjup$[email protected]:

    NoBody wrote:
    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention.
    You seemed fine with holding Jan 6 protestors without bail or trial.



    Did they waive speedy trial?

    Doesn't matter if they did. The Jan 6 courts deliberately drag-footed
    cases to keep protestors in jail

    No, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger, that's a lie. The insurrectionists' own lawyers are the ones who
    delayed the trials.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From left hand@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 5 21:22:56 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 04 Jul 2025, "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> posted some news:1049q7a$13f24$[email protected]:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 23:52:02 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 7/2/25 11:58 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    On 7/2/2025 8:13 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1041852$2vtkp$2@dont- email.me...
    Scout wrote:
    They like to pretend that illegal entry is not a crime.

    Their delusions allow them to believe a lot of lies.


    How do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt a crime was committed.

    Pretty easily.. .

    Sir, where is your visa?
    Why has the ICEstapo agent detained the person in the first place,
    scooter? Why don't you know the legal requirements for a lawful
    detention, scooter?


    Clue ... doesn't count for illegals anymore.

    Lefties want to tie this up in infinite legal
    paperwork, it's a strategy. Trump is going to
    defeat that strategy. Wish it didn't have to
    be that way, but it does.

    Iow, he's breaking the law because he doesn't like the way it works?


    Which is why citizens are being kidnapped.

    Not happening.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to gator alley on Sat Jul 5 15:20:44 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    gator alley wrote:
    On 05 Jul 2025, "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> posted some news:104b86h$1gjup$[email protected]:

    NoBody wrote:
    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention.
    You seemed fine with holding Jan 6 protestors without bail or trial.



    Did they waive speedy trial?

    Doesn't matter if they did. The Jan 6 courts deliberately drag-footed
    cases to keep protestors in jail while refusing to prosecute rioters in Minnesota, Oregon, Washington, Pennsylvania. California stood apart
    from the others, arresting and prosecuting left-wing extremists who got
    out of hand.


    If the Constitution is violated take it to an appellate court.

    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a
    speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district
    wherein the crime shall have been committed,

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  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 6 02:17:37 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 05 Jul 2025, Alan Bond <[email protected]> is too stupid to realize
    his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    No, Blowjob,

    Rudy continues his trend of illogical stupidity.

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  • From Charles Hamblin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 5 18:12:38 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/5/2025 5:17 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted
    child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 7/5/2025 2:21 PM, Alan Bond wrote:
    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/5/2025 1:04 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted
    child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 05 Jul 2025, "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> posted some
    news:104b86h$1gjup$[email protected]:

    NoBody wrote:
    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention.
    You seemed fine with holding Jan 6 protestors without bail or trial. >>>>>


    Did they waive speedy trial?

    Doesn't matter if they did. The Jan 6 courts deliberately drag-footed
    cases to keep protestors in jail

    No, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security
    dole scrounger, that's a lie. The insurrectionists' own lawyers are the ones who
    delayed the trials.

    Rudy continues beating the living fuck out of me and proving me to be a stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger.

    That's right, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 6 03:17:21 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 05 Jul 2025, Rudy Canoza Charles Hamblin <[email protected]> is too
    stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/5/2025 5:17 PM,:

    Rudy continues being an idiot.

    That's right,

    Rudy the guppy, 100% clueless.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Jul 6 09:24:12 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Sat, 05 Jul 2025 08:36:10 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 06:29:23 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 11:04:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1044a2a$3o61m$[email protected]...
    Scout wrote:
    The same reason most people are kept in jail pending the disposition of >>>>>>> their case, they are either dangerous or a flight risk.


    They have to appear before a judge within a day or two where the judge >>>>>> sets bail. As required by the 8th the bail has to be reasonable.

    and as an illegal with no ties to the community.. they are a flight
    risk, and thus can't get bail.

    Citizens are flight risks?

    Which citizens? This discussion is about illegals who aren't
    citizens.

    Duh..

    No. The discussion is immigrants can be detained without end because
    police can detain citizens indefinitely.

    Show us where this is happening and don't mix the terms immigrants
    with citizens because that's less than honest. The media uses the
    term "immigrants" for illegals.


    Silence. Yet another claim you've made that you refuse to support.


    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention.

    You seemed fine with holding Jan 6 protestors without bail or trial.


    It the judge's decision, not yours or TACO's.

    Actually the judge follows (or should) whatever law is provided to him
    so it's not really his decision.

    You can try appealing, but otherwise, it is the judge's decision.

    So you're now admitting the judges are acting lawlessly. Got it.

    Silence.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jul 6 09:21:32 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Sat, 05 Jul 2025 06:09:36 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention.
    You seemed fine with holding Jan 6 protestors without bail or trial.



    Did they waive speedy trial?

    You tell me. Ensure you can cite your answer.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Jul 6 06:35:38 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 05 Jul 2025 06:09:36 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention.
    You seemed fine with holding Jan 6 protestors without bail or trial.



    Did they waive speedy trial?

    You tell me.

    Why?

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  • From Charles Hamblin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 6 09:24:15 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/6/2025 12:17 AM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 7/5/2025 6:12 PM, Charles Hamblin wrote:
    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/5/2025 5:17 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted
    child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 7/5/2025 2:21 PM, Alan Bond wrote:
    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/5/2025 1:04 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese >>>> convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 05 Jul 2025, "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> posted some
    news:104b86h$1gjup$[email protected]:

    NoBody wrote:
    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention.
    You seemed fine with holding Jan 6 protestors without bail or trial. >>>>>>>


    Did they waive speedy trial?

    Doesn't matter if they did. The Jan 6 courts deliberately drag-footed >>>>> cases to keep protestors in jail

    No, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security
    dole scrounger, that's a lie. The insurrectionists' own lawyers are the ones
    who delayed the trials.

    Rudy continues beating the living fuck out of me and proving me to be a stupid
    fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger.

    That's right, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and
    Social Security dole scrounger.

    Rudy is my intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior.

    That's right, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger.

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  • From Jonathan Ball@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 6 23:32:31 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 06 Jul 2025, Rudy Canoza Jon Ball Charles Hamblin <[email protected]> is
    too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    Rudy is no intellectual,

    That's right,

    Documented fact.

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  • From Charles Hamblin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 6 14:40:29 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/6/2025 2:32 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted
    child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 7/6/2025 9:24 AM, Charles Hamblin wrote:
    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/6/2025 12:17 AM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese
    convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 7/5/2025 6:12 PM, Charles Hamblin wrote:
    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/5/2025 5:17 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese >>>> convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 7/5/2025 2:21 PM, Alan Bond wrote:
    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/5/2025 1:04 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese >>>>>> convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 05 Jul 2025, "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> posted some
    news:104b86h$1gjup$[email protected]:

    NoBody wrote:
    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention. >>>>>>>>> You seemed fine with holding Jan 6 protestors without bail or trial. >>>>>>>>>


    Did they waive speedy trial?

    Doesn't matter if they did. The Jan 6 courts deliberately drag-footed >>>>>>> cases to keep protestors in jail

    No, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social >>>>>> Security dole scrounger, that's a lie. The insurrectionists' own lawyers >>>>>> are the ones who delayed the trials.

    Rudy continues beating the living fuck out of me and proving me to be a >>>>> stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole >>>>> scrounger.

    That's right, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger
    and Social Security dole scrounger.

    Rudy is my intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical >>> superior.

    That's right, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and
    Social Security dole scrounger.

    Documented fact.
    Yes, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger, it certainly is.

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  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 7 03:11:59 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 06 Jul 2025, Rudy Canosa Jon Ball Charles Hamblin <[email protected]>
    is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/6/2025 2:32 PM:
    Rudy is no intellectual,

    That's right,

    Documented fact.
    Yes,

    What day is it, Rudy?

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  • From Charles Hamblin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 6 19:10:15 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/6/2025 6:11 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted
    child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 7/6/2025 2:40 PM, Charles Hamblin wrote:
    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/6/2025 2:32 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted
    child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 7/6/2025 9:24 AM, Charles Hamblin wrote:
    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/6/2025 12:17 AM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese >>>> convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 7/5/2025 6:12 PM, Charles Hamblin wrote:
    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/5/2025 5:17 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese >>>>>> convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 7/5/2025 2:21 PM, Alan Bond wrote:
    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot! >>>>>>>>
    On 7/5/2025 1:04 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese >>>>>>>> convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 05 Jul 2025, "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> posted some >>>>>>>>> news:104b86h$1gjup$[email protected]:

    NoBody wrote:
    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention. >>>>>>>>>>> You seemed fine with holding Jan 6 protestors without bail or trial.



    Did they waive speedy trial?

    Doesn't matter if they did. The Jan 6 courts deliberately drag-footed
    cases to keep protestors in jail

    No, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social >>>>>>>> Security dole scrounger, that's a lie. The insurrectionists' own lawyers
    are the ones who delayed the trials.

    Rudy continues beating the living fuck out of me and proving me to be a >>>>>>> stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole
    scrounger.

    That's right, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger
    and Social Security dole scrounger.

    Rudy is my intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical
    superior.

    That's right, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger
    and Social Security dole scrounger.

    Documented fact.

    Yes, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social
    Security dole scrounger, it certainly is.

    What day didn't I say complete bullshit, Rudy?

    No day, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social
    Security dole scrounger. Every time you post, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger, you post complete bullshit.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to burch cassidy on Sun Jul 6 20:56:44 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    burch cassidy wrote:
    On 06 Jul 2025, Rudy Canosa Jon Ball Charles Hamblin <[email protected]>
    is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/6/2025 2:32 PM:
    Rudy is no intellectual,

    That's right,

    Documented fact.
    Yes,

    What day is it, Rudy?


    Yesterday's tomorrow.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jul 7 06:50:58 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Sun, 06 Jul 2025 06:35:38 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 05 Jul 2025 06:09:36 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention.
    You seemed fine with holding Jan 6 protestors without bail or trial.



    Did they waive speedy trial?

    You tell me.

    Why?

    Laughter. It's YOUR point you're trying to make.

    Duh

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Jul 8 06:52:32 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
    XPost: sac.politics

    On Mon, 07 Jul 2025 06:50:58 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sun, 06 Jul 2025 06:35:38 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 05 Jul 2025 06:09:36 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    They cannot. You need a new excuse for indefinite detention.
    You seemed fine with holding Jan 6 protestors without bail or trial. >>>>>


    Did they waive speedy trial?

    You tell me.

    Why?

    Laughter. It's YOUR point you're trying to make.

    Duh

    And the drunk has vanished.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 8 20:16:37 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly
    | half with no criminal record, internal data show

    |
    | The American Police State Is Here
    |
    | ICE is about to eclipse the FBI as America's most important
    | law enforcement agency. That's bad.
    | ...
    <https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-american-police-state-is-here>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Wed Jul 9 01:54:23 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:104jub5$h2g$2 @reader1.panix.com:

    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly >>>>>>>>>>> | half with no criminal record, internal data show

    |
    | The American Police State Is Here
    |
    | ICE is about to eclipse the FBI as America's most important
    | law enforcement agency. That's bad.
    | ...
    <https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-american-police-state-is-here>

    --bks



    ICE is the new Stazi.

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  • From ablake@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 9 07:47:53 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 08 Jul 2025, [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) posted some news:104jub5$h2g$[email protected]:

    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly >>>>>>>>>>> | half with no criminal record, internal data show

    |
    | The American Police State Is Here

    It was just fine for you left-wing retards when you were free to
    practice "Laws for thee but not for me". Who was running the police
    state then?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 9 06:58:28 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 07:47:53 -0000 (UTC), ablake <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 08 Jul 2025, [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) posted some >news:104jub5$h2g$[email protected]:

    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly >>>>>>>>>>>> | half with no criminal record, internal data show

    |
    | The American Police State Is Here

    It was just fine for you left-wing retards when you were free to
    practice "Laws for thee but not for me". Who was running the police
    state then?

    Bradley only likes certain types of police states.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Jul 9 06:57:41 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 20:16:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly >>>>>>>>>>> | half with no criminal record, internal data show

    |
    | The American Police State Is Here
    |
    | ICE is about to eclipse the FBI as America's most important
    | law enforcement agency. That's bad.
    | ...
    <https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-american-police-state-is-here>

    --bks

    Laughter!

    This is the natural result of having open borders for four years under
    Biden. Trump was elected by the public to do exactly this.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to ablake on Wed Jul 9 12:47:38 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    ablake <[email protected]> wrote in news:104l6r9$jnk$[email protected]:

    On 08 Jul 2025, [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) posted some news:104jub5$h2g$[email protected]:

    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly >>>>>>>>>>>> | half with no criminal record, internal data show

    |
    | The American Police State Is Here

    It was just fine for you left-wing retards when you were free to
    practice "Laws for thee but not for me". Who was running the police
    state then?



    Are you talking about political-vandalism is-wrong-but-Jan-6ers-are-patriots?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to ablake on Wed Jul 9 10:03:45 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    "ablake" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:104l6r9$jnk$[email protected]...
    On 08 Jul 2025, [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) posted some news:104jub5$h2g$[email protected]:

    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly >>>>>>>>>>>> | half with no criminal record, internal data show

    |
    | The American Police State Is Here

    It was just fine for you left-wing retards when you were free to
    practice "Laws for thee but not for me". Who was running the police
    state then?

    And consider any, say extraconstitutional authority, the President has was given to the President by Democrats when they declared the President had authority to decide our policies on the handling of illegal aliens to the
    point of using the military to insure that.

    If Trump is now using such authority now, it's because Democrats set the precedence under Biden that the President can engage in such unilateral
    action.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Jul 10 07:05:51 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 09 Jul 2025 06:57:41 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 20:16:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly >>>>>>>>>>>> | half with no criminal record, internal data show

    |
    | The American Police State Is Here
    |
    | ICE is about to eclipse the FBI as America's most important
    | law enforcement agency. That's bad.
    | ...
    <https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-american-police-state-is-here>

    --bks

    Laughter!

    This is the natural result of having open borders for four years under
    Biden. Trump was elected by the public to do exactly this.

    And Bradley has stepped in it once again.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 11 14:27:24 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | ICE holding a record 59,000 immigrant detainees, nearly >>>>>>>>>>>>> | half with no criminal record, internal data show

    | The American Police State Is Here

    |
    | Border Czar Tom Homan: "People need to understand ICE
    | officers and Border Patrol don't need probable cause to
    | walk up to somebody, briefly detain them, and question them
    | ... based on their physical appearance."
    |
    | [85-second Fox News video at URL]
    |
    <https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ltoyyfr5vt2m>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 13 02:26:56 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | The American Police State Is Here

    | Border Czar Tom Homan: "People need to understand ICE
    | officers and Border Patrol don't need probable cause to
    | walk up to somebody, briefly detain them, and question them
    | ... based on their physical appearance."

    |
    | Federal immigration officers may deport immigrants with as
    | little as six hours' notice to countries other than their
    | own even if officials have not provided any assurances that
    | the new arrivals will be safe from persecution or torture,
    | a top official said in a memo this week.
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/07/12/immigrants-deportations-trump-ice-memo/>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 16 23:26:33 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | The police militarization debate is over
    |
    | Quaint disputes about the proper role of police and
    | military have been superseded by a more urgent threat:
    | Donald Trump is creating his own, personal paramilitary
    | force
    | ...
    <https://radleybalko.substack.com/p/the-police-militarization-debate>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Thu Jul 17 01:50:59 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:1059cf9$jfc$2 @reader1.panix.com:

    |
    | The police militarization debate is over
    |
    | Quaint disputes about the proper role of police and
    | military have been superseded by a more urgent threat:
    | Donald Trump is creating his own, personal paramilitary
    | force
    | ...
    <https://radleybalko.substack.com/p/the-police-militarization-debate>

    --bks



    Will they all be wearing brown shirts?

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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sun Jul 20 11:39:50 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 7/20/2025 11:37 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | The police militarization debate is over
    |
    | Quaint disputes about the proper role of police and
    | military have been superseded by a more urgent threat:
    | Donald Trump is creating his own, personal paramilitary
    | force

    |
    | Ice chief says he will continue to allow agents to wear
    | masks during arrest raids
    | ...
    <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/20/ice-agents-masks>

    The subhead of the article:

    Legal advocates and attorneys general argue practice poses accountability
    issues and contributes to a climate of fear

    Creating a climate of terror is the *entire* point of the campaign.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 20 18:37:29 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | The police militarization debate is over
    |
    | Quaint disputes about the proper role of police and
    | military have been superseded by a more urgent threat:
    | Donald Trump is creating his own, personal paramilitary
    | force

    |
    | Ice chief says he will continue to allow agents to wear
    | masks during arrest raids
    | ...
    <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/20/ice-agents-masks>

    --bks

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