• What a surprise: tying teacher pay to student performance improves stud

    From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 9 12:14:39 2025
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    What D.C. Is Proving About Teacher Salaries

    Nobody is surprised to learn that the Washington Commanders pay players differently based on position and performance. Yet finding that this also holds true for D.C. public school teachers generally comes as a shock.<https://www.washingtonpost.com/newsletters/opinions-pm/>

    It is an even greater shock that D.C. students’ <https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/tuda/> learning has improved more rapidly
    over the past 15 years than that of students in 20 other urban districts whose performance we have assessed.

    What’s the reason for the shock? The fact that it’s the near-universal approach
    of the 13,000 public school districts in the United States to pay teachers on the basis of experience and extent of graduate education — not position or performance. This might not be so objectionable — except for the disquieting fact that teacher salaries then end up being virtually unrelated to effectiveness in the classroom.
    [...]
    Dallas provides a second example of the power of changing the focus of teacher pay to student performance. Under the leadership of then-Superintendent Mike Miles, Dallas in 2015 switched to a salary system based on a sophisticated evaluation of teacher effectiveness. It then used this system to provide performance-based bonuses to teachers who would agree to go to the lowest-performing schools in the district. Two things happened: First, the best teachers responded to the incentives and were willing to move to the poorest-performing schools. Second, within two years, these schools jumped <https://www.educationnext.org/power-of-performance-pay-smart-teacher-retention-accelerated-student-achievement-dallas/>
    up to the district average.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/09/dc-dallas-schools-improvement-teachers/

    If you pay people based on superior outcomes, you get superior outcomes. Who would have /*ever */guessed?
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    learning has improved more rapidly over the past 15 years than
    that of students in 20 other urban districts whose performance we
    have assessed.<br>
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    <div class="wpds-c-PJLV article-body type-text"
    data-qa="article-body">What’s the reason for the shock? The fact
    that it’s the near-universal approach of the 13,000 public school
    districts in the United States to pay teachers on the basis of
    experience and extent of graduate education — not position or
    performance. This might not be so objectionable — except for the
    disquieting fact that teacher salaries then end up being virtually
    unrelated to effectiveness in the classroom.<br>
    [...]<br>
    Dallas provides a second example of the power of changing the
    focus of teacher pay to student performance. Under the leadership
    of then-Superintendent Mike Miles, Dallas in 2015 switched to a
    salary system based on a sophisticated evaluation of teacher
    effectiveness. It then used this system to provide
    performance-based bonuses to teachers who would agree to go to the
    lowest-performing schools in the district. Two things happened:
    First, the best teachers responded to the incentives and were
    willing to move to the poorest-performing schools. Second, within
    two years, <a href="https://www.educationnext.org/power-of-performance-pay-smart-teacher-retention-accelerated-student-achievement-dallas/"
    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">these schools jumped</a>
    up to the district average.<br>
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  • From Alex tan Malo@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Mon Jun 9 19:39:27 2025
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    Rudy Canoza wrote:

    What D.C. Is Proving About Teacher Salaries

    Nobody is surprised to learn that the Washington Commanders pay
    players differently based on position and performance. Yet finding
    that this also holds true for D.C. public school teachers generally
    comes as a
    shock.<https://www.washingtonpost.com/newsletters/opinions-pm/>

    It is an even greater shock that D.C. students’ <https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/tuda/> learning has improved
    more rapidly over the past 15 years than that of students in 20 other
    urban districts whose performance we have assessed.

    What’s the reason for the shock? The fact that it’s the
    near-universal approach of the 13,000 public school districts in the
    United States to pay teachers on the basis of experience and extent
    of graduate education — not position or performance. This might not
    be so objectionable — except for the disquieting fact that teacher
    salaries then end up being virtually unrelated to effectiveness in
    the classroom. [...] Dallas provides a second example of the power
    of changing the focus of teacher pay to student performance. Under
    the leadership of then-Superintendent Mike Miles, Dallas in 2015
    switched to a salary system based on a sophisticated evaluation of
    teacher effectiveness. It then used this system to provide
    performance-based bonuses to teachers who would agree to go to the lowest-performing schools in the district. Two things happened:
    First, the best teachers responded to the incentives and were willing
    to move to the poorest-performing schools. Second, within two years,
    these schools jumped <https://www.educationnext.org/power-of-performance-pay-smart-teacher- retention-accelerated-student-achievement-dallas/> up to the district average.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/09/dc-dallas-schools-improvement-teachers/

    If you pay people based on superior outcomes, you get superior
    outcomes. Who would have /*ever */guessed?


    Haha. Yeah. Common sense.

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