The proposition is modeled after a Texas law (SB 4) that the U.S.
Supreme Court is reviewing for constitutionality. Even though Arizona
voters passed the act, portions of the bill won’t go into effect
until the Texas bill is ruled constitutional.
https://www.azfamily.com/video/2024/11/06/arizona-voters-pass-prop-314- allowing-local-police-enforce-immigration-laws/
The proposition is modeled after a Texas law (SB 4) that the U.S. Supreme Court is reviewing for constitutionality. Even though Arizona voters
passed the act, portions of the bill won’t go into effect until the Texas bill is ruled constitutional.
https://www.azfamily.com/video/2024/11/06/arizona-voters-pass-prop-314-allowing-local-police-enforce-immigration-laws/
"James Muenter" <[email protected]d> wrote in message news:10204cl$2tgr6$[email protected]...
The proposition is modeled after a Texas law (SB 4) that the U.S.
Supreme Court is reviewing for constitutionality. Even though Arizona
voters passed the act, portions of the bill won’t go into effect
until the Texas bill is ruled constitutional.
https://www.azfamily.com/video/2024/11/06/arizona-voters-pass-prop-314
-allowing-local-police-enforce-immigration-laws/
What Constitutional issue. Local police regularly are involved in
enforcement of federal crimes, at least in the initial stages.
On 09 Jun 2025, "Scout" <[email protected]>
posted some news:10275g7$lla8$[email protected]:
<snip>
It's modeled after a Texas bill under review for constitutionality.
Some Biden camp judge objected to SB 4.
What is Senate Bill 4?
This new law would make it a state crime to cross the Texas-Mexico border between ports of entry. If a police officer believes they have evidence
that a person illegally crossed the Rio Grande, that person could be
charged with a Class B misdemeanor, which carries a punishment of up to
six months in jail. For subsequent offenses, the person could be charged
with a second-degree felony and face up to 20 years in prison.
If the migrant is convicted and has served their sentence, a judge would
be required to order police to transport them to a port of entry. A judge could drop the charges if a migrant agrees to return to Mexico, and police could turn over migrant families to Border Patrol agents to avoid
separating children from their parents instead of arresting them.
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/18/texas-sb-4-immigration-arrest-law/
slothe wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On 09 Jun 2025, "Scout" <[email protected]>
posted some news:10275g7$lla8$[email protected]:
<snip>
It's modeled after a Texas bill under review for constitutionality.
Some Biden camp judge objected to SB 4.
What is Senate Bill 4?
This new law would make it a state crime to cross the Texas-Mexico border
between ports of entry. If a police officer believes they have evidence
that a person illegally crossed the Rio Grande, that person could be
charged with a Class B misdemeanor, which carries a punishment of up to
six months in jail. For subsequent offenses, the person could be charged
with a second-degree felony and face up to 20 years in prison.
If the migrant is convicted and has served their sentence, a judge would
be required to order police to transport them to a port of entry. A judge
could drop the charges if a migrant agrees to return to Mexico, and police >> could turn over migrant families to Border Patrol agents to avoid
separating children from their parents instead of arresting them.
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/18/texas-sb-4-immigration-arrest-law/
So the "migrant" gets 6 months of free room and board? ;->
On 09 Jun 2025, "Scout" <[email protected]>
posted some news:10275g7$lla8$[email protected]:
"James Muenter" <[email protected]d> wrote in message
news:10204cl$2tgr6$[email protected]...
The proposition is modeled after a Texas law (SB 4) that the U.S.
Supreme Court is reviewing for constitutionality. Even though Arizona
voters passed the act, portions of the bill won�?Tt go into effect
until the Texas bill is ruled constitutional.
https://www.azfamily.com/video/2024/11/06/arizona-voters-pass-prop-314
-allowing-local-police-enforce-immigration-laws/
What Constitutional issue. Local police regularly are involved in
enforcement of federal crimes, at least in the initial stages.
It's modeled after a Texas bill under review for constitutionality.
Some Biden camp judge objected to SB 4.
What is Senate Bill 4?
This new law would make it a state crime to cross the Texas-Mexico border between ports of entry. If a police officer believes they have evidence
that a person illegally crossed the Rio Grande, that person could be
charged with a Class B misdemeanor, which carries a punishment of up to
six months in jail. For subsequent offenses, the person could be charged
with a second-degree felony and face up to 20 years in prison.
If the migrant is convicted and has served their sentence, a judge would
be required to order police to transport them to a port of entry. A judge could drop the charges if a migrant agrees to return to Mexico, and police could turn over migrant families to Border Patrol agents to avoid
separating children from their parents instead of arresting them.
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/18/texas-sb-4-immigration-arrest-law/
"slothe" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:102a100$3nv$[email protected]...
On 09 Jun 2025, "Scout" <[email protected]>
posted some news:10275g7$lla8$[email protected]:
"James Muenter" <[email protected]d> wrote in message
news:10204cl$2tgr6$[email protected]...
The proposition is modeled after a Texas law (SB 4) that the U.S.
Supreme Court is reviewing for constitutionality. Even though
Arizona voters passed the act, portions of the bill won�?Tt go into
effect until the Texas bill is ruled constitutional.
https://www.azfamily.com/video/2024/11/06/arizona-voters-pass-prop-3
14 -allowing-local-police-enforce-immigration-laws/
What Constitutional issue. Local police regularly are involved in
enforcement of federal crimes, at least in the initial stages.
It's modeled after a Texas bill under review for constitutionality.
Some Biden camp judge objected to SB 4.
What is Senate Bill 4?
This new law would make it a state crime to cross the Texas-Mexico
border between ports of entry. If a police officer believes they have
evidence that a person illegally crossed the Rio Grande, that person
could be charged with a Class B misdemeanor, which carries a
punishment of up to six months in jail. For subsequent offenses, the
person could be charged with a second-degree felony and face up to 20
years in prison.
If the migrant is convicted and has served their sentence, a judge
would be required to order police to transport them to a port of
entry. A judge could drop the charges if a migrant agrees to return
to Mexico, and police could turn over migrant families to Border
Patrol agents to avoid separating children from their parents instead
of arresting them.
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/18/texas-sb-4-immigration-arrest-
law/
Seems perfectly legitimate and legal to me. So what exactly are they
claiming is the Constitutional issue?
This new law would make it a state crime to cross the
Texas-Mexico border
between ports of entry. If a police officer believes they have
evidence
that a person illegally crossed the Rio Grande, that person
could be
charged with a Class B misdemeanor, which carries a punishment
of up to
six months in jail. For subsequent offenses, the person could
be charged
with a second-degree felony and face up to 20 years in prison.
Seems perfectly legitimate and legal to me. So what exactly are
they claiming is the Constitutional issue?
"slothe" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:102a100$3nv$[email protected]...
On 09 Jun 2025, "Scout" <[email protected]>
posted some news:10275g7$lla8$[email protected]:
"James Muenter" <[email protected]d> wrote in message
news:10204cl$2tgr6$[email protected]...
The proposition is modeled after a Texas law (SB 4) that the U.S.
Supreme Court is reviewing for constitutionality. Even though
Arizona voters passed the act, portions of the bill won�?Tt go into
effect until the Texas bill is ruled constitutional.
https://www.azfamily.com/video/2024/11/06/arizona-voters-pass-prop-3
14 -allowing-local-police-enforce-immigration-laws/
What Constitutional issue. Local police regularly are involved in
enforcement of federal crimes, at least in the initial stages.
It's modeled after a Texas bill under review for constitutionality.
Some Biden camp judge objected to SB 4.
What is Senate Bill 4?
This new law would make it a state crime to cross the Texas-Mexico
border between ports of entry. If a police officer believes they have
evidence that a person illegally crossed the Rio Grande, that person
could be charged with a Class B misdemeanor, which carries a
punishment of up to six months in jail. For subsequent offenses, the
person could be charged with a second-degree felony and face up to 20
years in prison.
If the migrant is convicted and has served their sentence, a judge
would be required to order police to transport them to a port of
entry. A judge could drop the charges if a migrant agrees to return
to Mexico, and police could turn over migrant families to Border
Patrol agents to avoid separating children from their parents instead
of arresting them.
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/18/texas-sb-4-immigration-arrest-
law/
Seems perfectly legitimate and legal to me. So what exactly are they
claiming is the Constitutional issue?
"Scout" <[email protected]> wrote in news:102btpo$1vqd9$[email protected]:
"slothe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:102a100$3nv$[email protected]...
On 09 Jun 2025, "Scout" <[email protected]>
posted some news:10275g7$lla8$[email protected]:
"James Muenter" <[email protected]d> wrote in message
news:10204cl$2tgr6$[email protected]...
The proposition is modeled after a Texas law (SB 4) that the U.S.
Supreme Court is reviewing for constitutionality. Even though
Arizona voters passed the act, portions of the bill won�?Tt go into
effect until the Texas bill is ruled constitutional.
https://www.azfamily.com/video/2024/11/06/arizona-voters-pass-prop-3 >>>>> 14 -allowing-local-police-enforce-immigration-laws/
What Constitutional issue. Local police regularly are involved in
enforcement of federal crimes, at least in the initial stages.
It's modeled after a Texas bill under review for constitutionality.
Some Biden camp judge objected to SB 4.
What is Senate Bill 4?
This new law would make it a state crime to cross the Texas-Mexico
border between ports of entry. If a police officer believes they have
evidence that a person illegally crossed the Rio Grande, that person
could be charged with a Class B misdemeanor, which carries a
punishment of up to six months in jail. For subsequent offenses, the
person could be charged with a second-degree felony and face up to 20
years in prison.
If the migrant is convicted and has served their sentence, a judge
would be required to order police to transport them to a port of
entry. A judge could drop the charges if a migrant agrees to return
to Mexico, and police could turn over migrant families to Border
Patrol agents to avoid separating children from their parents instead
of arresting them.
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/18/texas-sb-4-immigration-arrest-
law/
Seems perfectly legitimate and legal to me. So what exactly are they
claiming is the Constitutional issue?
What other federal laws do you
want state police to enforce?
"James Muenter" <[email protected]d> wrote in message news:10204cl$2tgr6$[email protected]...
The proposition is modeled after a Texas law (SB 4) that the U.S.
Supreme Court is reviewing for constitutionality. Even though Arizona
voters passed the act, portions of the bill won’t go into effect until
the Texas bill is ruled constitutional.
https://www.azfamily.com/video/2024/11/06/arizona-voters-pass-
prop-314-allowing-local-police-enforce-immigration-laws/
What Constitutional issue. Local police regularly are involved in
enforcement of federal crimes, at least in the initial stages.
On 11/6/25 5:04, Scout wrote:
This new law would make it a state crime to cross the
Texas-Mexico border
between ports of entry. If a police officer believes they have
evidence
that a person illegally crossed the Rio Grande, that person
could be
charged with a Class B misdemeanor, which carries a punishment
of up to
six months in jail. For subsequent offenses, the person could
be charged
with a second-degree felony and face up to 20 years in prison.
Seems perfectly legitimate and legal to me. So what exactly are
they claiming is the Constitutional issue?
What is acceptable as evidence?
On 11 Jun 2025, "Scout" <[email protected]>
posted some news:102btpo$1vqd9$[email protected]:
"slothe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:102a100$3nv$[email protected]...
On 09 Jun 2025, "Scout" <[email protected]>
posted some news:10275g7$lla8$[email protected]:
"James Muenter" <[email protected]d> wrote in message
news:10204cl$2tgr6$[email protected]...
The proposition is modeled after a Texas law (SB 4) that the U.S.
Supreme Court is reviewing for constitutionality. Even though
Arizona voters passed the act, portions of the bill won�?Tt go into
effect until the Texas bill is ruled constitutional.
https://www.azfamily.com/video/2024/11/06/arizona-voters-pass-prop-3 >>>>> 14 -allowing-local-police-enforce-immigration-laws/
What Constitutional issue. Local police regularly are involved in
enforcement of federal crimes, at least in the initial stages.
It's modeled after a Texas bill under review for constitutionality.
Some Biden camp judge objected to SB 4.
What is Senate Bill 4?
This new law would make it a state crime to cross the Texas-Mexico
border between ports of entry. If a police officer believes they have
evidence that a person illegally crossed the Rio Grande, that person
could be charged with a Class B misdemeanor, which carries a
punishment of up to six months in jail. For subsequent offenses, the
person could be charged with a second-degree felony and face up to 20
years in prison.
If the migrant is convicted and has served their sentence, a judge
would be required to order police to transport them to a port of
entry. A judge could drop the charges if a migrant agrees to return
to Mexico, and police could turn over migrant families to Border
Patrol agents to avoid separating children from their parents instead
of arresting them.
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/18/texas-sb-4-immigration-arrest-
law/
Seems perfectly legitimate and legal to me. So what exactly are they
claiming is the Constitutional issue?
The Biden administration claimed immigration enforcement falls under the purview of the feds and interferes with immigration law.
They weren't
enforcing immigration law anyway, just letting Mexico invade the
country.
Leftists don't teach things like the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.
On 11 Jun 2025, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> posted some news:[email protected]:
"Scout" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:102btpo$1vqd9$[email protected]:
"slothe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:102a100$3nv$[email protected]...
On 09 Jun 2025, "Scout" <[email protected]>
posted some news:10275g7$lla8$[email protected]:
"James Muenter" <[email protected]d> wrote in message
news:10204cl$2tgr6$[email protected]...
The proposition is modeled after a Texas law (SB 4) that the U.S.
Supreme Court is reviewing for constitutionality. Even though
Arizona voters passed the act, portions of the bill won�?Tt go into >>>>>> effect until the Texas bill is ruled constitutional.
https://www.azfamily.com/video/2024/11/06/arizona-voters-pass-prop-3 >>>>>> 14 -allowing-local-police-enforce-immigration-laws/
What Constitutional issue. Local police regularly are involved in
enforcement of federal crimes, at least in the initial stages.
It's modeled after a Texas bill under review for constitutionality.
Some Biden camp judge objected to SB 4.
What is Senate Bill 4?
This new law would make it a state crime to cross the Texas-Mexico
border between ports of entry. If a police officer believes they have
evidence that a person illegally crossed the Rio Grande, that person
could be charged with a Class B misdemeanor, which carries a
punishment of up to six months in jail. For subsequent offenses, the
person could be charged with a second-degree felony and face up to 20
years in prison.
If the migrant is convicted and has served their sentence, a judge
would be required to order police to transport them to a port of
entry. A judge could drop the charges if a migrant agrees to return
to Mexico, and police could turn over migrant families to Border
Patrol agents to avoid separating children from their parents instead
of arresting them.
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/18/texas-sb-4-immigration-arrest- >>>> law/
Seems perfectly legitimate and legal to me. So what exactly are they
claiming is the Constitutional issue?
What other federal laws do you
want state police to enforce?
Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA).
Leftists don't teach things like the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.
Leftists don't teach a lot of things.
"Siri Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:102chgo$24bu6$[email protected]...
On 11/6/25 5:04, Scout wrote:
This new law would make it a state crime to cross the
Texas-Mexico border
between ports of entry. If a police officer believes they have
evidence
that a person illegally crossed the Rio Grande, that person
could be
charged with a Class B misdemeanor, which carries a punishment
of up to
six months in jail. For subsequent offenses, the person could
be charged
with a second-degree felony and face up to 20 years in prison.
Seems perfectly legitimate and legal to me. So what exactly are
they claiming is the Constitutional issue?
What is acceptable as evidence?
Something which clearly violates the terms of the Constitution.
Securing their border.. which I believe states still have a right
to do.
Leftists don't teach things like the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.
On 12/6/25 5:18, Scout wrote:
Securing their border.. which I believe states still have a right
to do.
They do not. States cannot regulate who can cross their borders.
Kinda like Trump accepting gifts
from foreign countries.
"Siri Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:102encl$2nlsi$[email protected]...
On 12/6/25 5:18, Scout wrote:
Securing their border.. which I believe states still have a right
to do.
They do not. States cannot regulate who can cross their borders.
Just enforcing Constitutional law.
Art IV, Sec 4
If the federal government fails to fulfill it's obligation under the Constitution the State can take independent action to do so.
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