XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

It�s a good time to bet on Donald Trump. His approval ratings are up, his America First agenda is already delivering results, and Democrats? They�re spinning in circles�no leader, no message, just a mess of focus groups and virtue signals.

The numbers don�t lie.

Voters see Democrats for what they are: slow, incompetent, and wildly out
of step with reality. Their latest ploy to reconnect with working-class Americans is downright pathetic�and frankly, hilarious. Meanwhile, Trump
is out there doing what he�s always done: winning.

How bad is it for the left?

Blue states are bleeding population, and red states are growing. The so-
called �blue wall� states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin are
crumbling so fast that after the 2030 census, Democrats won�t be able to
win a national election even if they win all of those states.

So, what are they doing about it? That�s where it gets hilarious.
According to the New York Times, they�re burning $20 million on something called �Speaking with American Men.�

Yes, that�s real. This is what panic looks like.

For now, Democratic donors and strategists have been gathering at luxury
hotels to discuss how to win back working-class voters, commissioning new projects that can read like anthropological studies of people from faraway places.

The prospectus for one new $20 million effort, obtained by The Times, aims
to reverse the erosion of Democratic support among young men, especially online. It is code-named SAM � short for �Speaking with American Men: A Strategic Plan� � and promises investment to �study the syntax, language
and content that gains attention and virality in these spaces.� It
recommends buying advertisements in video games, among other things.

�Above all, we must shift from a moralizing tone,� it urges.

While Republicans are focused on the economy, securing the border, and restoring law and order, Democrats are still championing abortion on
demand, radical gender ideology, and letting biological men into women�s
locker rooms. They need to spend millions of dollars to have powwows at
luxury hotels to figure out why they aren�t connecting with average Joes.

It�s no wonder they�re collapsing.

The New York Post notes that "in one instance, liberal super PAC Future
Forward hosted a gathering in the Ritz-Carlton resort in wealthy Half Moon
Bay, California, to apprise donors on what went wrong in 2024. Prominent figures such as California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) and Kentucky Gov. Andy
Beshear (D) were reported in attendance.�

�Some of the elite gatherings featured appetizers like short-rib tostones,
mini lobster rolls, beef tenderloin and other expensive hors d�oeuvres,�
the Post report added.

This is the funniest thing I�ve heard since Gov. Tim Walz explained the
reason Kamala Harris picked him as her running mate.

�Look, I knew I was on the ticket, I would argue, because we did a lot of amazing progressive things in Minnesota to improve people's lives," he
said at the Harvard Kennedy School last month. "But I also was on the
ticket, quite honestly, because I could code talk to white guys watching football, fixing their truck, doing that, that I could put them at ease. I
was the permission structure to say, 'Look you can do this and vote for
this,' and and you look across those swing states with the exception of Minnesota, we didn't get enough of those votes.�

Working-class American men aren�t turning to Tim Walz or Gavin Newsom for inspiration when they�re elbow-deep in grease fixing their trucks, nor are
they asking Chuck Schumer how to man a grill on a Memorial Day weekend. If Democrats think they can win back male voters by huddling in five-star
hotels over mimosas and caviar to decode �masculinity,� they�re in worse
shape than anyone thought. This isn�t strategy�it�s self-parody.

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/05/26/the-democrats-are-doomed-and- they-have-no-idea-n4940157

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

On 2025-05-27, useapen <[email protected]> wrote:

It’s a good time to bet on Donald Trump. His approval ratings are up, his America First agenda is already delivering results, and Democrats? They’re spinning in circles—no leader, no message, just a mess of focus groups and virtue signals.

The numbers don’t lie.

Voters see Democrats for what they are: slow, incompetent, and wildly out
of step with reality. Their latest ploy to reconnect with working-class Americans is downright pathetic—and frankly, hilarious. Meanwhile, Trump
is out there doing what he’s always done: winning.

How bad is it for the left?

Blue states are bleeding population, and red states are growing. The so- called “blue wall” states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin are crumbling so fast that after the 2030 census, Democrats won’t be able to
win a national election even if they win all of those states.

So, what are they doing about it? That’s where it gets hilarious.
According to the New York Times, they’re burning $20 million on something called “Speaking with American Men.”

Yes, that’s real. This is what panic looks like.

For now, Democratic donors and strategists have been gathering at luxury hotels to discuss how to win back working-class voters, commissioning new projects that can read like anthropological studies of people from faraway places.

The prospectus for one new $20 million effort, obtained by The Times, aims
to reverse the erosion of Democratic support among young men, especially online. It is code-named SAM — short for “Speaking with American Men: A Strategic Plan” — and promises investment to “study the syntax, language and content that gains attention and virality in these spaces.” It recommends buying advertisements in video games, among other things.

“Above all, we must shift from a moralizing tone,” it urges.

While Republicans are focused on the economy, securing the border, and restoring law and order, Democrats are still championing abortion on
demand, radical gender ideology, and letting biological men into women’s locker rooms. They need to spend millions of dollars to have powwows at luxury hotels to figure out why they aren’t connecting with average Joes.

It’s no wonder they’re collapsing.

The New York Post notes that "in one instance, liberal super PAC Future Forward hosted a gathering in the Ritz-Carlton resort in wealthy Half Moon Bay, California, to apprise donors on what went wrong in 2024. Prominent figures such as California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) and Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear (D) were reported in attendance.”

“Some of the elite gatherings featured appetizers like short-rib tostones, mini lobster rolls, beef tenderloin and other expensive hors d’oeuvres,” the Post report added.

This is the funniest thing I’ve heard since Gov. Tim Walz explained the reason Kamala Harris picked him as her running mate.

“Look, I knew I was on the ticket, I would argue, because we did a lot of amazing progressive things in Minnesota to improve people's lives," he
said at the Harvard Kennedy School last month. "But I also was on the
ticket, quite honestly, because I could code talk to white guys watching football, fixing their truck, doing that, that I could put them at ease. I was the permission structure to say, 'Look you can do this and vote for this,' and and you look across those swing states with the exception of Minnesota, we didn't get enough of those votes.”

Working-class American men aren’t turning to Tim Walz or Gavin Newsom for inspiration when they’re elbow-deep in grease fixing their trucks, nor are they asking Chuck Schumer how to man a grill on a Memorial Day weekend. If Democrats think they can win back male voters by huddling in five-star
hotels over mimosas and caviar to decode “masculinity,” they’re in worse shape than anyone thought. This isn’t strategy—it’s self-parody.

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/05/26/the-democrats-are-doomed-and- they-have-no-idea-n4940157

I saw two college students being interviewed on one of the morning news shows and both said the same thing.
Elites staying in 5 star hotels telling the voters that we may have to sacrifice some
for greeniac stuff.

They mentioned Bernie and AOC jetting all over the country in private jets polluting the air while pushing climate change.
And they both used the hypocrite word multiple times.

The younger generations have woken up.. <https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-ratings-young-americans-2075210>

<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/losing-voters-trump-latest-polls-take-surprising-turn/>



--
pothead
Liberalism Is A Mental Disease
Treat it accordingly <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

On 2025-06-01, Praetor Mandrake <[email protected]> wrote:

pothead wrote:

On 2025-05-27, useapen <[email protected]> wrote:

It’s a good time to bet on Donald Trump. His approval ratings are up, his >>> America First agenda is already delivering results, and Democrats? They’re >>> spinning in circles—no leader, no message, just a mess of focus groups and >>> virtue signals.

The numbers don’t lie.

Voters see Democrats for what they are: slow, incompetent, and wildly out >>> of step with reality. Their latest ploy to reconnect with working-class
Americans is downright pathetic—and frankly, hilarious. Meanwhile, Trump >>> is out there doing what he’s always done: winning.

How bad is it for the left?

Blue states are bleeding population, and red states are growing. The so- >>> called “blue wall” states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin are
crumbling so fast that after the 2030 census, Democrats won’t be able to >>> win a national election even if they win all of those states.

So, what are they doing about it? That’s where it gets hilarious.
According to the New York Times, they’re burning $20 million on something >>> called “Speaking with American Men.”

Yes, that’s real. This is what panic looks like.

For now, Democratic donors and strategists have been gathering at luxury >>> hotels to discuss how to win back working-class voters, commissioning new >>> projects that can read like anthropological studies of people from faraway >>> places.

The prospectus for one new $20 million effort, obtained by The Times, aims >>> to reverse the erosion of Democratic support among young men, especially >>> online. It is code-named SAM — short for “Speaking with American Men: A >>> Strategic Plan” — and promises investment to “study the syntax, language >>> and content that gains attention and virality in these spaces.” It
recommends buying advertisements in video games, among other things.

“Above all, we must shift from a moralizing tone,” it urges.

While Republicans are focused on the economy, securing the border, and
restoring law and order, Democrats are still championing abortion on
demand, radical gender ideology, and letting biological men into women’s >>> locker rooms. They need to spend millions of dollars to have powwows at
luxury hotels to figure out why they aren’t connecting with average Joes. >>>
It’s no wonder they’re collapsing.

The New York Post notes that "in one instance, liberal super PAC Future
Forward hosted a gathering in the Ritz-Carlton resort in wealthy Half Moon >>> Bay, California, to apprise donors on what went wrong in 2024. Prominent >>> figures such as California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) and Kentucky Gov. Andy
Beshear (D) were reported in attendance.”

“Some of the elite gatherings featured appetizers like short-rib tostones, >>> mini lobster rolls, beef tenderloin and other expensive hors d’oeuvres,” >>> the Post report added.

This is the funniest thing I’ve heard since Gov. Tim Walz explained the >>> reason Kamala Harris picked him as her running mate.

“Look, I knew I was on the ticket, I would argue, because we did a lot of >>> amazing progressive things in Minnesota to improve people's lives," he
said at the Harvard Kennedy School last month. "But I also was on the
ticket, quite honestly, because I could code talk to white guys watching >>> football, fixing their truck, doing that, that I could put them at ease. I >>> was the permission structure to say, 'Look you can do this and vote for
this,' and and you look across those swing states with the exception of
Minnesota, we didn't get enough of those votes.”

Working-class American men aren’t turning to Tim Walz or Gavin Newsom for >>> inspiration when they’re elbow-deep in grease fixing their trucks, nor are >>> they asking Chuck Schumer how to man a grill on a Memorial Day weekend. If >>> Democrats think they can win back male voters by huddling in five-star
hotels over mimosas and caviar to decode “masculinity,” they’re in worse >>> shape than anyone thought. This isn’t strategy—it’s self-parody.

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/05/26/the-democrats-are-doomed-and- >>> they-have-no-idea-n4940157

I saw two college students being interviewed on one of the morning news shows
and both said the same thing.
Elites staying in 5 star hotels telling the voters that we may have to sacrifice some
for greeniac stuff.

I've been seeing more and more of this that none of them have any
sympathy for a guy eating a well done steak. The guy is helping his own health and well done is very healthy and not too much
creosote/carcinogen, but the green party will say you are supporting the destruction of rain forests and jungles for cattle farming. If my needs don't serve the 'many' in the green party why would I want it? Stirring
up a $3 trillion bill to promote greenness only says to me that you
abhor specifics. Specifics are what makes the doughnuts in reality...
Why don't you call yourself the Blue Party because you are all dreaming?

Indeed.
I agree.

The democrats have a serious identity problem and they are doubling down and not
doing anything to change this.
The democrats mantra has always been "we are the party of the working class" and
while that has always been a big lie it's only till recently that
people have discovered this.


Associating with Beyonce, Oprah and so forth while paying them millions of dollars
or jetting all over the country in private jets while telling the workers they need to go green is no longer working.
People have figured out that the democrats are the party of the elite and are hypocrites.
They don't want to be forced into EV cars, what kind of stove they can buy and so forth.

Voters are now learning that open borders have caused major problems.
They are learning that defunding the police is not a good idea.
They are sick and tired of government regulations stifling business.
They are sick of hypocrites like AOC and Bernie staying in 5 star hotels
and telling them how they need to sacrifice for the good of the country.

It's all a pile of crap and the voters are not swallowing anymore.

Also, the democrats no longer have the left wing MSM shilling for them
because even though the MSM has not changed, their ratings are in the toilet
as nobody is believing them anymore.

The democrats need to flush out their entire party and begin to earn
back the trust of the American people and that is going to be a very difficult task.



--
pothead
Liberalism Is A Mental Disease
Treat it accordingly <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

Praetor Mandrake wrote:

pothead wrote:

On 2025-05-27, useapen <[email protected]> wrote:

It’s a good time to bet on Donald Trump. His approval ratings are up,
his America First agenda is already delivering results, and Democrats?
They’re spinning in circles—no leader, no message, just a mess of
focus groups and virtue signals.

The numbers don’t lie.

Voters see Democrats for what they are: slow, incompetent, and wildly
out of step with reality. Their latest ploy to reconnect with
working-class Americans is downright pathetic—and frankly, hilarious.
Meanwhile, Trump is out there doing what he’s always done: winning.

How bad is it for the left?

Blue states are bleeding population, and red states are growing. The
so- called “blue wall” states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and
Wisconsin are crumbling so fast that after the 2030 census, Democrats
won’t be able to win a national election even if they win all of
those states.

So, what are they doing about it? That’s where it gets hilarious.
According to the New York Times, they’re burning $20 million on
something called “Speaking with American Men.”

Yes, that’s real. This is what panic looks like.

For now, Democratic donors and strategists have been gathering at
luxury hotels to discuss how to win back working-class voters,
commissioning new projects that can read like anthropological studies
of people from faraway places.

The prospectus for one new $20 million effort, obtained by The Times,
aims to reverse the erosion of Democratic support among young men,
especially online. It is code-named SAM — short for “Speaking with
American Men: A Strategic Plan” — and promises investment to “study
the syntax, language and content that gains attention and virality in
these spaces.” It recommends buying advertisements in video games,
among other things.

“Above all, we must shift from a moralizing tone,” it urges.

While Republicans are focused on the economy, securing the border, and
restoring law and order, Democrats are still championing abortion on
demand, radical gender ideology, and letting biological men into
women’s locker rooms. They need to spend millions of dollars to have
powwows at luxury hotels to figure out why they aren’t connecting
with average Joes.

It’s no wonder they’re collapsing.

The New York Post notes that "in one instance, liberal super PAC
Future Forward hosted a gathering in the Ritz-Carlton resort in
wealthy Half Moon Bay, California, to apprise donors on what went
wrong in 2024. Prominent figures such as California Gov. Gavin Newsom
(D) and Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear (D) were reported in attendance.”

“Some of the elite gatherings featured appetizers like short-rib
tostones, mini lobster rolls, beef tenderloin and other expensive hors
d’oeuvres,” the Post report added.

This is the funniest thing I’ve heard since Gov. Tim Walz explained
the reason Kamala Harris picked him as her running mate.

“Look, I knew I was on the ticket, I would argue, because we did a
lot of amazing progressive things in Minnesota to improve people's
lives," he said at the Harvard Kennedy School last month. "But I also
was on the ticket, quite honestly, because I could code talk to white
guys watching football, fixing their truck, doing that, that I could
put them at ease. I was the permission structure to say, 'Look you can
do this and vote for this,' and and you look across those swing states
with the exception of Minnesota, we didn't get enough of those
votes.”

Working-class American men aren’t turning to Tim Walz or Gavin Newsom
for inspiration when they’re elbow-deep in grease fixing their
trucks, nor are they asking Chuck Schumer how to man a grill on a
Memorial Day weekend. If Democrats think they can win back male voters
by huddling in five-star hotels over mimosas and caviar to decode
“masculinity,” they’re in worse shape than anyone thought. This
isn’t strategy—it’s self-parody.

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/05/26/the-democrats-are-doomed-a
nd- they-have-no-idea-n4940157

I saw two college students being interviewed on one of the morning news
shows and both said the same thing.
Elites staying in 5 star hotels telling the voters that we may have to
sacrifice some for greeniac stuff.

I've been seeing more and more of this that none of them have any
sympathy for a guy eating a well done steak. The guy is helping his own >health and well done is very healthy and not too much
creosote/carcinogen, but the green party will say you are supporting the >destruction of rain forests and jungles for cattle farming. If my needs >don't serve the 'many' in the green party why would I want it? Stirring
up a $3 trillion bill to promote greenness only says to me that you
abhor specifics. Specifics are what makes the doughnuts in reality...
Why don't you call yourself the Blue Party because you are all dreaming?

Trump will be POTUS forever. We no longer require elections. He is the
most popular President in history and is praised by all Americans. Trump
has ended leftist tyranny and the enslavement of the American right.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

Baxter wrote:

pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
news:101ggi0$1oanr$[email protected]:

Voters are now learning that open borders have caused major problems.

Exactly what problems? Other than conservaturds run around with hair on
fire over the imaginary issue.

What about the tons of fentanyl coming in from Canada that's killing off all Trump's junkie friends?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
news:101ggi0$1oanr$[email protected]:

Voters are now learning that open borders have caused major problems.

Exactly what problems? Other than conservaturds run around with hair on
fire over the imaginary issue.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

On 31 May 2025, Baxter <[email protected]> posted some news:101gi37$1opu5$[email protected]:

pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
news:101ggi0$1oanr$[email protected]:

Voters are now learning that open borders have caused major problems.

Exactly what problems? Other than conservaturds run around with hair
on fire over the imaginary issue.

You sound like you need some illegals. Maybe New York or Mass can send
you some. Are you seriously that dense?

Kate Steinle, Laken Riley, Kayla Hamilton, Jocelyn Nungaray, and Rachel
Morin were murdered by illegal aliens.

That's just a few.

Dani Countryman was murdered by illegals right there in Oregon.

Then there's this.

https://www.doj.state.or.us/oregon-department-of-justice/civil-rights/san ctuary-promise/

"Oregon Is a Sanctuary State
As a sanctuary state since 1987, Oregon stands for the safety, dignity
and human rights of all Oregonians. Oregon was the first state in the
nation to pass a statewide law stopping state and local police and
government from helping federal authorities with immigration
enforcement."

You Oregoofians got something against females? You don't care if
illegal aliens mistreat, rape and murder them?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

On 03 Jun 2025, Governor Swill <[email protected]> posted some news:[email protected]:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 01:27:48 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jun 2025 05:45:11 +0000, Wesen Council wrote:

Kate Steinle, Laken Riley, Kayla Hamilton, Jocelyn Nungaray, and
Rachel Morin were murdered by illegal aliens.

Where's the list of the twenty thousand plus who were murdered by
citizens?

Well? Aren't you going to post it?

Who cares? They don't matter. You want numbers, you post them.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.republiscums/QAnon.are.lying.treasonous.insurrectionist.shitbags.oh.yes.they.are, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

Blowjob *still* *doesn't know what his tell is!

On 6/3/2025 5:46 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted
child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

On 03 Jun 2025, Governor Swill <[email protected]> posted some news:[email protected]:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 01:27:48 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jun 2025 05:45:11 +0000, Wesen Council wrote:

Kate Steinle, Laken Riley, Kayla Hamilton, Jocelyn Nungaray, and
Rachel Morin were murdered by illegal aliens.

Where's the list of the twenty thousand plus who were murdered by
citizens?

Well? Aren't you going to post it?

Who cares?

Shut the fuck up, Blowjob.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

Governor Swill wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 00:46:11 -0000 (UTC), Joseph Masaro

I'm refuting the claim that immigrants, legal or otherwise, are
responsible for more crime per capita than citizens.

Immigrants, especially illegal ones, commit crimes at far lower rates
than citizens.

As shown by 150 years of data


https://www.zmescience.com/science/news-science/immigrants-commit-fewer-crimes/

Since the 1960s, US-born citizens are twice
as likely to be incarcerated as immigrants.

New research spanning 150 years of U.S.
history provides a startling answer:
immigrants are consistently less likely to
commit crimes than their US-born peers.

Researchers led by Stanford economist Ran
Abramitzky analyzed incarceration rates of
immigrant and US-born men aged 18 to 40 —
the demographic most likely to be imprisoned.
Their dataset, which spans 1870 to 2019, is
the most comprehensive examination of its
kind. It pulls from decennial censuses,
large census samples, and the American
Community Survey.

The findings are clear. From 1870 to 1960,
incarceration rates among immigrants and
US-born citizens were similar. But starting
in the 1960s, a dramatic divergence emerged.
By 2019, US-born men were incarcerated at
rates nearly double those of immigrants —
approximately 3,000 per 100,000 compared to
fewer than 1,500 per 100,000 for immigrants.

Whether from Europe, Mexico, China, or
Central America, immigrants consistently
exhibit lower incarceration rates than
US-born men. This trend holds even when
comparing immigrants to US-born white men,
among whom incarceration rates have
historically been lower than other
demographic groups.

“The data show exactly the opposite [of
popular assumptions]: throughout American
history, immigrants have consistently had
similar or lower incarceration rates than
US-born citizens,” the researchers wrote.


https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aeri.20230459
Law-Abiding Immigrants: The Incarceration Gap
between Immigrants and the US-Born, 1870–2020

Abstract
We provide the first nationally representative
long-run series (1870–2020) of incarceration
rates for immigrants and the US-born. As a
group, immigrants have had lower incarceration
rates than the US-born for 150 years. Moreover,
relative to the US-born, immigrants'
incarceration rates have declined since 1960:
immigrants today are 60 percent less likely to
be incarcerated (30 percent relative to US-born
Whites). This relative decline occurred among
immigrants from all regions and cannot be
explained by changes in observable
characteristics or immigration policy. Instead,
the decline is part of a broader divergence of
outcomes between less-educated immigrants and
their US-born counterparts.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

"Governor Swill" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 00:46:11 -0000 (UTC), Joseph Masaro
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 03 Jun 2025, Governor Swill <[email protected]> posted some >>news:[email protected]:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 01:27:48 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jun 2025 05:45:11 +0000, Wesen Council wrote:

Kate Steinle, Laken Riley, Kayla Hamilton, Jocelyn Nungaray, and >>>>>Rachel Morin were murdered by illegal aliens.

Where's the list of the twenty thousand plus who were murdered by >>>>citizens?

Well? Aren't you going to post it?

Who cares? They don't matter. You want numbers, you post them.

I'm refuting the claim that immigrants, legal or otherwise, are
responsible for more crime per capita than citizens.

Well, given many immigrants are literally in continuous violation of the law I'm not sure how you can support that claim.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

On 05 Jun 2025, "Scout" <[email protected]>
posted some news:101s3et$1hu2d$[email protected]:

"Governor Swill" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 00:46:11 -0000 (UTC), Joseph Masaro
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 03 Jun 2025, Governor Swill <[email protected]> posted some >>>news:[email protected]:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 01:27:48 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jun 2025 05:45:11 +0000, Wesen Council wrote:

Kate Steinle, Laken Riley, Kayla Hamilton, Jocelyn Nungaray, and >>>>>>Rachel Morin were murdered by illegal aliens.

Where's the list of the twenty thousand plus who were murdered by >>>>>citizens?

Well? Aren't you going to post it?

Who cares? They don't matter. You want numbers, you post them.

I'm refuting the claim that immigrants, legal or otherwise, are
responsible for more crime per capita than citizens.

Well, given many immigrants are literally in continuous violation of
the law I'm not sure how you can support that claim.

Every day they are here is a new violation, look at it that way.

The immigration advocates in the federal and state governments do their
utmost to hinder the recording of illegal immigrant crime. A lot of it
simply goes "undocumented" until something obvious that can't be hidden
gets media attention.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

On 5/6/25 5:39, Scout wrote:

"Governor Swill" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 00:46:11 -0000 (UTC), Joseph Masaro
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 03 Jun 2025, Governor Swill <[email protected]>
posted some
news:[email protected]:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 01:27:48 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jun 2025 05:45:11 +0000, Wesen Council wrote:

Kate Steinle, Laken Riley, Kayla Hamilton, Jocelyn
Nungaray, and
Rachel Morin were murdered by illegal aliens.

Where's the list of the twenty thousand plus who were
murdered by
citizens?

Well? Aren't you going to post it?

Who cares? They don't matter. You want numbers, you post them.

I'm refuting the claim that immigrants, legal or otherwise, are
responsible for more crime per capita than citizens.

Well, given many immigrants are literally in continuous violation
of the law I'm not sure how you can support that claim.

Make your life easier. Give up hating.

--
Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

"Siri Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:101ss5g$1o09j$[email protected]...

On 5/6/25 5:39, Scout wrote:

"Governor Swill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 00:46:11 -0000 (UTC), Joseph Masaro
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 03 Jun 2025, Governor Swill <[email protected]>
posted some
news:[email protected]:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 01:27:48 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jun 2025 05:45:11 +0000, Wesen Council wrote:

Kate Steinle, Laken Riley, Kayla Hamilton, Jocelyn
Nungaray, and
Rachel Morin were murdered by illegal aliens.

Where's the list of the twenty thousand plus who were
murdered by
citizens?

Well? Aren't you going to post it?

Who cares? They don't matter. You want numbers, you post them.

I'm refuting the claim that immigrants, legal or otherwise, are
responsible for more crime per capita than citizens.

Well, given many immigrants are literally in continuous violation
of the law I'm not sure how you can support that claim.

Make your life easier. Give up hating.

Who hates?

Certainly has nothing to do with my observation.. which you utterly ignored.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

On 06 Jun 2025, Rudy Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> posted some news:iqG0Q.439221$[email protected]:

On 6/6/2025 6:12 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

"Siri Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:101ss5g$1o09j$1@dont- email.me...

On 5/6/25 5:39, Scout wrote:

"Governor Swill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 00:46:11 -0000 (UTC), Joseph Masaro
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 03 Jun 2025, Governor Swill <[email protected]>
posted some
news:[email protected]:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 01:27:48 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jun 2025 05:45:11 +0000, Wesen Council wrote:

Kate Steinle, Laken Riley, Kayla Hamilton, Jocelyn
Nungaray, and
Rachel Morin were murdered by illegal aliens.

Where's the list of the twenty thousand plus who were
murdered by
citizens?

Well?  Aren't you going to post it?

Who cares?  They don't matter.  You want numbers, you post
them.

I'm refuting the claim that immigrants, legal or otherwise, are
responsible for more crime per capita than citizens.

Well, given many immigrants are literally in continuous violation
of the law

No, scooter. You're bullshitting, again, about unlawful presence, and
that is not a crime, scooter.

You got no case, just bureaucratic language that imposes a penalty,
whereupon any violation of said conditions becomes a crime. It's a trap
you doofus.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.republiscums/QAnon.are.lying.treasonous.insurrectionist.shitbags.oh.yes.they.are, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

On 6/6/2025 2:39 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted
child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

On 06 Jun 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> posted some news:iqG0Q.439221$[email protected]:

On 6/6/2025 6:12 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:

"Siri Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:101ss5g$1o09j$1@dont- email.me...

On 5/6/25 5:39, Scout wrote:

"Governor Swill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 00:46:11 -0000 (UTC), Joseph Masaro
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 03 Jun 2025, Governor Swill <[email protected]>
posted some
news:[email protected]:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 01:27:48 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jun 2025 05:45:11 +0000, Wesen Council wrote:

Kate Steinle, Laken Riley, Kayla Hamilton, Jocelyn
Nungaray, and
Rachel Morin were murdered by illegal aliens.

Where's the list of the twenty thousand plus who were
murdered by
citizens?

Well?  Aren't you going to post it?

Who cares?  They don't matter.  You want numbers, you post
them.

I'm refuting the claim that immigrants, legal or otherwise, are
responsible for more crime per capita than citizens.

Well, given many immigrants are literally in continuous violation
of the law

No, scooter. You're bullshitting, again, about unlawful presence, and
that is not a crime, scooter.

You got no case

The case is impeccable, ironclad and irrefutable, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* toothless cuck. Unlawful presence is not a crime.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics

Scout wrote:

"Governor Swill" <[email protected]> wrote in message

I'm refuting the claim that immigrants, legal or otherwise, are
responsible for more crime per capita than citizens.

Well, given many immigrants are literally in continuous violation of the
law I'm not sure how you can support that claim.

A victimless crime. Meanwhile


https://www.zmescience.com/science/news-science/immigrants-commit-fewer-crimes/

Since the 1960s, US-born citizens are twice
as likely to be incarcerated as immigrants.

New research spanning 150 years of U.S.
history provides a startling answer:
immigrants are consistently less likely to
commit crimes than their US-born peers.

Researchers led by Stanford economist Ran
Abramitzky analyzed incarceration rates of
immigrant and US-born men aged 18 to 40 —
the demographic most likely to be imprisoned.
Their dataset, which spans 1870 to 2019, is
the most comprehensive examination of its
kind. It pulls from decennial censuses,
large census samples, and the American
Community Survey.

The findings are clear. From 1870 to 1960,
incarceration rates among immigrants and
US-born citizens were similar. But starting
in the 1960s, a dramatic divergence emerged.
By 2019, US-born men were incarcerated at
rates nearly double those of immigrants —
approximately 3,000 per 100,000 compared to
fewer than 1,500 per 100,000 for immigrants.

Whether from Europe, Mexico, China, or
Central America, immigrants consistently
exhibit lower incarceration rates than
US-born men. This trend holds even when
comparing immigrants to US-born white men,
among whom incarceration rates have
historically been lower than other
demographic groups.

“The data show exactly the opposite [of
popular assumptions]: throughout American
history, immigrants have consistently had
similar or lower incarceration rates than
US-born citizens,” the researchers wrote.


https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aeri.20230459
Law-Abiding Immigrants: The Incarceration Gap
between Immigrants and the US-Born, 1870–2020

Abstract
We provide the first nationally representative
long-run series (1870–2020) of incarceration
rates for immigrants and the US-born. As a
group, immigrants have had lower incarceration
rates than the US-born for 150 years. Moreover,
relative to the US-born, immigrants'
incarceration rates have declined since 1960:
immigrants today are 60 percent less likely to
be incarcerated (30 percent relative to US-born
Whites). This relative decline occurred among
immigrants from all regions and cannot be
explained by changes in observable
characteristics or immigration policy. Instead,
the decline is part of a broader divergence of
outcomes between less-educated immigrants and
their US-born counterparts.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)