On 11 Apr 2025, -hh <[email protected]> posted some news:vtat6l$1cq0v$[email protected]:
On 4/11/25 01:20, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 08:50:04 -0400, -hh
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/10/25 02:21, Governor Swill wrote:
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:59:17 -0400, -hh
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/9/25 00:24, Jon Brady wrote:
On 08 Apr 2025, Siri Cruz <[email protected]> posted some
news:vt4hsv$3f4be$[email protected]:
On 8/4/25 9:13, -hh wrote:
On 4/8/25 06:01, .../v]andrak|?... wrote:
Planet of the apes wrote:
As markets nosedived and foreign allies recoiled after the >>>>>>>>>>> unveiling of
sweeping tariffs to be imposed by the U.S., President Donald >>>>>>>>>>> Trump said he
was looking toward the future impact of his levies.
I hope it doesn't take 2 yrs.
Two years would be "Manhattan Project" wicked fast.
Come to think of it ... hey Wiki? How long did the Manhattan >>>>>>>>> Project take from start to August 1945?
Answer: it started 12 Aug 1942, so that's 3 years.
And anyone who's done real project management of big projects >>>>>>>>> which include establishing a manufacturing line know that even >>>>>>>>> 3 years is still moving pretty damn fast, and with priority to >>>>>>>>> steamroll over the
'business as usual' plodders. Especially when its your own
corporate money being spent.
That's a long time to put up with the CNN "sky is falling" >>>>>>>>>> message. Kill that little fuck. CNN is alarmist bullcrap and >>>>>>>>>> check out this reality video they showed.
Except that there's a long track record history which shows
that real world production start-ups aren't some trivial
"months" thing, but are measured in years. Even for deep
pocketed 'geniuses', case in point:
That's comparing Obama projects to those with achievable goals.
And this is not one unified construction project. It is going to >>>>>>>> be ten of thousands, each on its own site, a different
jurisdiction with different rules and regulations, each its own >>>>>>>> permits.
Most other states don't operate like California and their
historical joke of a high speed rail project.
Here's an example of committed people and governments at work.
Gigafactory 5
Floor area: 10,000,000 sq ft
Employees 20,000
Built 2020-2022
Operated August 2021
Location 13101 Tesla Road, Austin, Texas
That's built from the dirt, ground up to operational.
Serious people don't screw around.
It was announced in July 2020 and construction began that same
quarter. That means that planning & land acquisition started much, >>>>>> much earlier.
Got dates for the project's true start date? Because without that >>>>>> info, all you have is the fraction of the project of building
construction.
-hh
And per his above, it still took two years to build.
We'd better be hearing a lot of noise about new factories scheduled
for town before the midterms
No, more than that: since these propaganda parrots are so clueless
about project development and project management, the milestone
can't merely be "scheduled" .. that would repeat the Wisconsin
FOXCONN scam.
Based on their fantasies for how easy it is to build a major new
manufacturing plant, the pre-midterms news has to be nothing less
than "Groundbreaking was in June, and with the Construction is on
schedule to b finished by December, hiring interviews are occurring
now". All by Halloween.
-hh
If he had tweaked and tuned instead of handing Musk a chainsaw, the
desired results could be achieved by quiet negotiation with the
various parties.
Like what Al Gore did back in the 1990s; so well done that today, no
one even remembers that it was done. Back in the days of a budget
surplus.
That lie won't fly, bub. Shuffling debt from one category to another
and calling the budget "balanced" with a surplus is what those two
clowns did. It's well documented, so don't try your usual weak shit
and ask for a cite.
On 4/11/2025 11:08 AM, bk wrote:and
On 11 Apr 2025, -hh <[email protected]> posted some
news:vtat6l$1cq0v$[email protected]:
On 4/11/25 01:20, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 08:50:04 -0400, -hh
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/10/25 02:21, Governor Swill wrote:
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:59:17 -0400, -hh
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/9/25 00:24, Jon Brady wrote:
On 08 Apr 2025, Siri Cruz <[email protected]> posted some
news:vt4hsv$3f4be$[email protected]:
On 8/4/25 9:13, -hh wrote:
On 4/8/25 06:01, .../v]andrak|?... wrote:
Planet of the apes wrote:
As markets nosedived and foreign allies recoiled after the >>>>>>>>>>>> unveiling of
sweeping tariffs to be imposed by the U.S., President Donald >>>>>>>>>>>> Trump said he
was looking toward the future impact of his levies.
I hope it doesn't take 2 yrs.
Two years would be "Manhattan Project" wicked fast.
Come to think of it ... hey Wiki? How long did the Manhattan >>>>>>>>>> Project take from start to August 1945?
Answer: it started 12 Aug 1942, so that's 3 years.
And anyone who's done real project management of big projects >>>>>>>>>> which include establishing a manufacturing line know that even >>>>>>>>>> 3 years is still moving pretty damn fast, and with priority to >>>>>>>>>> steamroll over the
'business as usual' plodders. Especially when its your own >>>>>>>>>> corporate money being spent.
That's a long time to put up with the CNN "sky is falling" >>>>>>>>>>> message. Kill that little fuck. CNN is alarmist bullcrap
tocheck out this reality video they showed.
Except that there's a long track record history which shows >>>>>>>>>> that real world production start-ups aren't some trivial
"months" thing, but are measured in years. Even for deep
pocketed 'geniuses', case in point:
That's comparing Obama projects to those with achievable goals. >>>>>>>>
And this is not one unified construction project. It is going
much,be ten of thousands, each on its own site, a different
jurisdiction with different rules and regulations, each its own >>>>>>>>> permits.
Most other states don't operate like California and their
historical joke of a high speed rail project.
Here's an example of committed people and governments at work. >>>>>>>>
Gigafactory 5
Floor area: 10,000,000 sq ft
Employees 20,000
Built 2020-2022
Operated August 2021
Location 13101 Tesla Road, Austin, Texas
That's built from the dirt, ground up to operational.
Serious people don't screw around.
It was announced in July 2020 and construction began that same
quarter. That means that planning & land acquisition started
thatmuch earlier.
Got dates for the project's true start date? Because without
scheduledinfo, all you have is the fraction of the project of building
construction.
-hh
And per his above, it still took two years to build.
We'd better be hearing a lot of noise about new factories
for town before the midterms
No, more than that: since these propaganda parrots are so clueless
about project development and project management, the milestone
can't merely be "scheduled" .. that would repeat the Wisconsin
FOXCONN scam.
Based on their fantasies for how easy it is to build a major new
manufacturing plant, the pre-midterms news has to be nothing less
than "Groundbreaking was in June, and with the Construction is on
schedule to b finished by December, hiring interviews are occurring
now". All by Halloween.
-hh
If he had tweaked and tuned instead of handing Musk a chainsaw, the
desired results could be achieved by quiet negotiation with the
various parties.
Like what Al Gore did back in the 1990s; so well done that today, no
one even remembers that it was done. Back in the days of a budget
surplus.
That lie won't fly, bub. Shuffling debt from one category to another
and calling the budget "balanced" with a surplus is what those two
clowns did. It's well documented, so don't try your usual weak shit
and ask for a cite.
That's not how it works, fuckscum. Cite, or shut the fuck up.
On 4/11/2025 11:08 AM, bk wrote:
On 11 Apr 2025, -hh <[email protected]> posted some news:vtat6l$1cq0v$[email protected]:
On 4/11/25 01:20, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 08:50:04 -0400, -hh
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/10/25 02:21, Governor Swill wrote:
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:59:17 -0400, -hh
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/9/25 00:24, Jon Brady wrote:
On 08 Apr 2025, Siri Cruz <[email protected]> posted some
news:vt4hsv$3f4be$[email protected]:
On 8/4/25 9:13, -hh wrote:
On 4/8/25 06:01, .../v]andrak|?... wrote:
Planet of the apes wrote:
As markets nosedived and foreign allies recoiled after the >>>>>>>>>>> unveiling of
sweeping tariffs to be imposed by the U.S., President Donald >>>>>>>>>>> Trump said he
was looking toward the future impact of his levies.
I hope it doesn't take 2 yrs.
Two years would be "Manhattan Project" wicked fast.
Come to think of it ... hey Wiki? How long did the Manhattan >>>>>>>>> Project take from start to August 1945?
Answer: it started 12 Aug 1942, so that's 3 years.
And anyone who's done real project management of big projects >>>>>>>>> which include establishing a manufacturing line know that even >>>>>>>>> 3 years is still moving pretty damn fast, and with priority to >>>>>>>>> steamroll over the
'business as usual' plodders. Especially when its your own >>>>>>>>> corporate money being spent.
That's a long time to put up with the CNN "sky is falling" >>>>>>>>>> message. Kill that little fuck. CNN is alarmist bullcrap and >>>>>>>>>> check out this reality video they showed.
Except that there's a long track record history which shows >>>>>>>>> that real world production start-ups aren't some trivial
"months" thing, but are measured in years. Even for deep
pocketed 'geniuses', case in point:
That's comparing Obama projects to those with achievable goals. >>>>>>>
And this is not one unified construction project. It is going to >>>>>>>> be ten of thousands, each on its own site, a different
jurisdiction with different rules and regulations, each its own >>>>>>>> permits.
Most other states don't operate like California and their
historical joke of a high speed rail project.
Here's an example of committed people and governments at work. >>>>>>>
Gigafactory 5
Floor area: 10,000,000 sq ft
Employees 20,000
Built 2020-2022
Operated August 2021
Location 13101 Tesla Road, Austin, Texas
That's built from the dirt, ground up to operational.
Serious people don't screw around.
It was announced in July 2020 and construction began that same
quarter. That means that planning & land acquisition started much, >>>>>> much earlier.
Got dates for the project's true start date? Because without that >>>>>> info, all you have is the fraction of the project of building
construction.
-hh
And per his above, it still took two years to build.
We'd better be hearing a lot of noise about new factories scheduled >>>>> for town before the midterms
No, more than that: since these propaganda parrots are so clueless
about project development and project management, the milestone
can't merely be "scheduled" .. that would repeat the Wisconsin
FOXCONN scam.
Based on their fantasies for how easy it is to build a major new
manufacturing plant, the pre-midterms news has to be nothing less
than "Groundbreaking was in June, and with the Construction is on
schedule to b finished by December, hiring interviews are occurring
now". All by Halloween.
-hh
If he had tweaked and tuned instead of handing Musk a chainsaw, the
desired results could be achieved by quiet negotiation with the
various parties.
Like what Al Gore did back in the 1990s; so well done that today, no
one even remembers that it was done. Back in the days of a budget
surplus.
That lie won't fly, bub. Shuffling debt from one category to another
and calling the budget "balanced" with a surplus is what those two
clowns did. It's well documented, so don't try your usual weak shit
and ask for a cite.
That's not how it works, fuckscum. Cite, or shut the fuck up.
"Skeeter (skeeterweed"@photonmail.com wrote in news:ETdKP.2146785 $[email protected]:
On 4/11/2025 11:08 AM, bk wrote:and
On 11 Apr 2025, -hh <[email protected]> posted some
news:vtat6l$1cq0v$[email protected]:
On 4/11/25 01:20, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 08:50:04 -0400, -hh
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/10/25 02:21, Governor Swill wrote:
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:59:17 -0400, -hh
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/9/25 00:24, Jon Brady wrote:
On 08 Apr 2025, Siri Cruz <[email protected]> posted some >>>>>>>> news:vt4hsv$3f4be$[email protected]:
On 8/4/25 9:13, -hh wrote:
On 4/8/25 06:01, .../v]andrak|?... wrote:
Planet of the apes wrote:
As markets nosedived and foreign allies recoiled after the >>>>>>>>>>>> unveiling of
sweeping tariffs to be imposed by the U.S., President Donald >>>>>>>>>>>> Trump said he
was looking toward the future impact of his levies.
I hope it doesn't take 2 yrs.
Two years would be "Manhattan Project" wicked fast.
Come to think of it ... hey Wiki? How long did the Manhattan >>>>>>>>>> Project take from start to August 1945?
Answer: it started 12 Aug 1942, so that's 3 years.
And anyone who's done real project management of big projects >>>>>>>>>> which include establishing a manufacturing line know that even >>>>>>>>>> 3 years is still moving pretty damn fast, and with priority to >>>>>>>>>> steamroll over the
'business as usual' plodders. Especially when its your own >>>>>>>>>> corporate money being spent.
That's a long time to put up with the CNN "sky is falling" >>>>>>>>>>> message. Kill that little fuck. CNN is alarmist bullcrap
tocheck out this reality video they showed.
Except that there's a long track record history which shows >>>>>>>>>> that real world production start-ups aren't some trivial >>>>>>>>>> "months" thing, but are measured in years. Even for deep >>>>>>>>>> pocketed 'geniuses', case in point:
That's comparing Obama projects to those with achievable goals. >>>>>>>>
And this is not one unified construction project. It is going
much,be ten of thousands, each on its own site, a different
jurisdiction with different rules and regulations, each its own >>>>>>>>> permits.
Most other states don't operate like California and their
historical joke of a high speed rail project.
Here's an example of committed people and governments at work. >>>>>>>>
Gigafactory 5
Floor area: 10,000,000 sq ft
Employees 20,000
Built 2020-2022
Operated August 2021
Location 13101 Tesla Road, Austin, Texas
That's built from the dirt, ground up to operational.
Serious people don't screw around.
It was announced in July 2020 and construction began that same >>>>>>> quarter. That means that planning & land acquisition started
thatmuch earlier.
Got dates for the project's true start date? Because without
scheduledinfo, all you have is the fraction of the project of building
construction.
-hh
And per his above, it still took two years to build.
We'd better be hearing a lot of noise about new factories
for town before the midterms
No, more than that: since these propaganda parrots are so clueless >>>>> about project development and project management, the milestone
can't merely be "scheduled" .. that would repeat the Wisconsin
FOXCONN scam.
Based on their fantasies for how easy it is to build a major new
manufacturing plant, the pre-midterms news has to be nothing less
than "Groundbreaking was in June, and with the Construction is on
schedule to b finished by December, hiring interviews are occurring >>>>> now". All by Halloween.
-hh
If he had tweaked and tuned instead of handing Musk a chainsaw, the
desired results could be achieved by quiet negotiation with the
various parties.
Like what Al Gore did back in the 1990s; so well done that today, no
one even remembers that it was done. Back in the days of a budget
surplus.
That lie won't fly, bub. Shuffling debt from one category to another
and calling the budget "balanced" with a surplus is what those two
clowns did. It's well documented, so don't try your usual weak shit
and ask for a cite.
That's not how it works, fuckscum. Cite, or shut the fuck up.
Sez the bot that never, ever provides a cite of his own.
On 4/11/2025 11:08 AM, bk wrote:
On 11 Apr 2025, -hh <[email protected]> posted some
news:vtat6l$1cq0v$[email protected]:
On 4/11/25 01:20, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 08:50:04 -0400, -hh
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/10/25 02:21, Governor Swill wrote:
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:59:17 -0400, -hh
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/9/25 00:24, Jon Brady wrote:
On 08 Apr 2025, Siri Cruz <[email protected]> posted some
news:vt4hsv$3f4be$[email protected]:
On 8/4/25 9:13, -hh wrote:
On 4/8/25 06:01, .../v]andrak|?... wrote:
Planet of the apes wrote:
As markets nosedived and foreign allies recoiled after the >>>>>>>>>>>> unveiling of
sweeping tariffs to be imposed by the U.S., President Donald >>>>>>>>>>>> Trump said he
was looking toward the future impact of his levies.
I hope it doesn't take 2 yrs.
Two years would be "Manhattan Project" wicked fast.
Come to think of it ... hey Wiki? How long did the Manhattan >>>>>>>>>> Project take from start to August 1945?
Answer: it started 12 Aug 1942, so that's 3 years.
And anyone who's done real project management of big projects >>>>>>>>>> which include establishing a manufacturing line know that even >>>>>>>>>> 3 years is still moving pretty damn fast, and with priority to >>>>>>>>>> steamroll over the
'business as usual' plodders. Especially when its your own >>>>>>>>>> corporate money being spent.
That's a long time to put up with the CNN "sky is falling" >>>>>>>>>>> message. Kill that little fuck. CNN is alarmist bullcrap and >>>>>>>>>>> check out this reality video they showed.
Except that there's a long track record history which shows >>>>>>>>>> that real world production start-ups aren't some trivial
"months" thing, but are measured in years. Even for deep >>>>>>>>>> pocketed 'geniuses', case in point:
That's comparing Obama projects to those with achievable goals. >>>>>>>>
And this is not one unified construction project. It is going to >>>>>>>>> be ten of thousands, each on its own site, a different
jurisdiction with different rules and regulations, each its own >>>>>>>>> permits.
Most other states don't operate like California and their
historical joke of a high speed rail project.
Here's an example of committed people and governments at work. >>>>>>>>
Gigafactory 5
Floor area: 10,000,000 sq ft
Employees 20,000
Built 2020-2022
Operated August 2021
Location 13101 Tesla Road, Austin, Texas
That's built from the dirt, ground up to operational.
Serious people don't screw around.
It was announced in July 2020 and construction began that same
quarter. That means that planning & land acquisition started much, >>>>>>> much earlier.
Got dates for the project's true start date? Because without that >>>>>>> info, all you have is the fraction of the project of building
construction.
-hh
And per his above, it still took two years to build.
We'd better be hearing a lot of noise about new factories scheduled >>>>>> for town before the midterms
No, more than that: since these propaganda parrots are so clueless >>>>> about project development and project management, the milestone
can't merely be "scheduled" .. that would repeat the Wisconsin
FOXCONN scam.
Based on their fantasies for how easy it is to build a major new
manufacturing plant, the pre-midterms news has to be nothing less
than "Groundbreaking was in June, and with the Construction is on
schedule to b finished by December, hiring interviews are occurring
now". All by Halloween.
-hh
If he had tweaked and tuned instead of handing Musk a chainsaw, the
desired results could be achieved by quiet negotiation with the
various parties.
Like what Al Gore did back in the 1990s; so well done that today, no
one even remembers that it was done. Back in the days of a budget
surplus.
That lie won't fly, bub. Shuffling debt from one category to another
and calling the budget "balanced" with a surplus is what those two
clowns did. It's well documented, so don't try your usual weak shit
and ask for a cite.
That's not how it works, fuckscum. Cite, or shut the fuck up.
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 20:37:13 -0400, -hh
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/11/25 15:15, "Skeeter (skeeterweed"@photonmail.com wrote:<snip>
On 4/11/2025 11:08 AM, bk wrote:
That lie won't fly, bub.� Shuffling debt from one category to another
Is a lie the Republicans have been telling ever since Clinton did what
they only promised to do: balance the budget.
Then a Republican got elected. The first thing he did was cut
revenues. The next thing he did was increase spending.
--and calling the budget "balanced" with a surplus is what those two
clowns did. It's well documented, so don't try your usual weak shit
and ask for a cite.
That's not how it works, fuckscum. Cite, or shut the fuck up.
Indeed. They need to provide receipts, like this:
"...reduced the federal workforce by 426,200 between January 1993 and >>September 2000. Cuts occurred in 13 out of 14 departments making the >>federal government in 2000 the smallest government since Dwight D. >>Eisenhower was president.[1]"
"...acted on more than 2/3 of NPR regulations, yielding $136 billion in >>savings to the taxpayer."
"...conducted a regulatory review that resulted in cuts equivalent to >>640,000 pages of internal agency rules."
"...closed nearly 2,000 obsolete field offices and eliminated 250
programs and agencies, like the Tea-Tasters Board, the Bureau of Mines,
and wool and mohair subsidies."
"...passed a government-wide procurement reform bill which led to the >>expanded use of credit cards for small item purchases, saving about $250 >>million a year in processing costs."
<https://www.brookings.edu/articles/lessons-for-the-future-of-government- >>reform/>
FYI, I can personally attest to that last one being a godsend to the >>workforce, as the pre-GOVCC paperwork procedures for making trivial >>purchases is what had resulted in things like the infamous $400 hammer:
<https://govinfo.library.unt.edu/npr/rego/regular/hammert.htm>
Pretty much the main way that the Government "saved" money was that >>frustrated employees would buy small stuff out of pocket ... and a
really good boss might give a nod & wink to let some overtime be rounded
up by a half hour to repay the employee for taking that initiative.
-hh
America first does not mean America only.
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 20:37:13 -0400, -hh
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/11/25 15:15, "Skeeter (skeeterweed"@photonmail.com wrote:<snip>
On 4/11/2025 11:08 AM, bk wrote:
That lie won't fly, bub. Shuffling debt from one category to another
Is a lie the Republicans have been telling ever since Clinton did what
they only promised to do: balance the budget.
Then a Republican got elected. The first thing he did was cut
revenues. The next thing he did was increase spending.
--and calling the budget "balanced" with a surplus is what those two
clowns did. It's well documented, so don't try your usual weak shit
and ask for a cite.
That's not how it works, fuckscum. Cite, or shut the fuck up.
Indeed. They need to provide receipts, like this:
"...reduced the federal workforce by 426,200 between January 1993 and
September 2000. Cuts occurred in 13 out of 14 departments making the
federal government in 2000 the smallest government since Dwight D.
Eisenhower was president.[1]"
"...acted on more than 2/3 of NPR regulations, yielding $136 billion in
savings to the taxpayer."
"...conducted a regulatory review that resulted in cuts equivalent to
640,000 pages of internal agency rules."
"...closed nearly 2,000 obsolete field offices and eliminated 250
programs and agencies, like the Tea-Tasters Board, the Bureau of Mines,
and wool and mohair subsidies."
"...passed a government-wide procurement reform bill which led to the
expanded use of credit cards for small item purchases, saving about $250 >>> million a year in processing costs."
<https://www.brookings.edu/articles/lessons-for-the-future-of-government- >>> reform/>
FYI, I can personally attest to that last one being a godsend to the
workforce, as the pre-GOVCC paperwork procedures for making trivial
purchases is what had resulted in things like the infamous $400 hammer:
<https://govinfo.library.unt.edu/npr/rego/regular/hammert.htm>
Pretty much the main way that the Government "saved" money was that
frustrated employees would buy small stuff out of pocket ... and a
really good boss might give a nod & wink to let some overtime be rounded >>> up by a half hour to repay the employee for taking that initiative.
-hh
America first does not mean America only.
I want more tariffs and more tax cuts.
And fewer Gays competing with my sons in soccer.
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