• Russia and U.S. start new Ukraine peace talks on tricky footing with wa

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    The United States and Russia began a new set of talks Monday aimed at a
    partial Ukraine ceasefire � while the two sides disagreed over how well
    the talks in Saudi Arabia were going and as Kremlin forces launched
    another night of drone strikes.

    Even as Russia's delegation sat down in Riyadh, the Saudi capital, the country's military launched missiles at the Ukrainian city of Sumy on
    Monday, damaging apartment buildings and a children's hospital and
    injuring 74 people, including 13 children, Ukrainian officials said.

    "A few hours ago, another horrific Russian bombing of Sumy�s city center injured dozens civilians, including many children," Ukrainian Foreign
    Minister Andrii Sybiha said on X. "Instead of making hollow statements
    about peace, Russia must stop bombing our cities and end its war on
    civilians. Any diplomacy with Moscow must be backed up by firepower,
    sanctions, and pressure."

    Meanwhile, American negotiators said they hope to achieve �real progress�
    at the talks in Saudi Arabia, while Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov warned
    of "difficult negotiations."

    "There are still many aspects related to the settlement which are to be
    worked out," Peskov told reporters on a media call Monday after Russia's Foreign Affairs Ministry published video of its delegation arriving at the
    Ritz Carlton in Riyadh.

    The White House is attempting a strategy of �shuttle diplomacy,� a source familiar with the negotiations told NBC News, and was meeting with Russian delegates Monday after having spoken with Ukrainian officials in Saudi
    Arabia a day before.

    Both sides sounded upbeat following those talks, with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Sunday calling the discussions �quite useful� and
    saying his side was working in a �completely constructive manner.�

    President Donald Trump�s special envoy, Steve Witkoff, told several
    broadcast shows the same day that he was hopeful of �real progress.�

    But Witkoff had already raised alarm in Europe before both rounds of
    talks, telling Tucker Carlson's podcast Friday that he didn�t regard
    Russian President Vladimir Putin "as a bad guy� and said that Putin
    counted Trump as a friend.

    Putin was reviled as a pariah across the West before Trump began his
    second term as president in January, not just for launching an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, but for decades of election meddling and aggression abroad, and for brutally silencing political opposition at home.

    Sunday brought another reality check to the White House's optimism.

    Russia launched 99 drones into Ukraine overnight into Monday and injured
    at least one person, officials said. The night before, it sent 147 of them across the border, killing three people in the capital, Kyiv, including a father and his 5-year-old daughter, according to Zelenskyy.

    Ukraine has increasingly attempted to defend itself by returning fire, and
    the Russian Minister of Defense said Kremlin forces had intercepted and destroyed 28 drones sent into Russia on Sunday and overnight into Monday.

    �Every night is now a large-scale Russian drone attack,� Zelenskyy said
    Sunday. �Without pressure on Russia, they will continue to despise real diplomacy in Moscow and continue to destroy lives,� he added.

    �No matter what we talk about with our partners, we need to push Putin to
    give a real order to stop the strikes: whoever brought this war must take
    it away.�

    There is also an apparent discrepancy in terms of what the three parties
    say is on the table. The White House has said that �energy and
    infrastructure� would be covered by the agreement, while the Kremlin
    phrases this as �energy infrastructure.� Zelenskyy has since said he would
    also like railways and ports to be protected.

    On March 11, Putin said he would accept a partial 30-day ceasefire
    covering energy infrastructure but included demands that would be so
    punishing for Kyiv as to be tantamount to surrender.

    Ukraine is also concerned that an agreement for unrestricted trade with
    the European Union, of which it is not a member, is set to end June 5.

    While Ukrainian finance minister Serhiy Marchenko told the Financial Times
    that the deal's expiration would damage Ukraine's economy, some E.U.
    member states have recently opposed the agreement � made after Russia's invasion in February 2022 � as hurting their own economies.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-russia-talks-ceasefire-ukraine- zelenskyy-putin-trump-waltz-saudi-rcna197734

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