On 06/20/2016 08:45 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
to the following newsgroups, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
alt.politics.republicans, soc.culture.usa
and talk.politics.misc which I trimmed and mention
here as evidence of the trolling intent.
On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 16:50:17 -0400, Mr. B1ack <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:45:27 -0500, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:
"Frank" wrote in message news:njq0k7$olh$[email protected]...
Similar to the heroin problem where current solution is to get out more OD >>>> kits.
Why don't they just sell methadone over-the-counter...
People get high on methadone. Unfortunately they
also get very dead on methadone. Janis Joplin
reportedly OD'd on it amongst other notables.
She od'd on heroin.
that is how I recall it, but she, like a friend of mine,
may have been on methadone and booze as well. This killed my
friend as well. That is a deadly combination as the suppression
of the breathing reflex is multiplied
If you want more data try "Season of the Witch" by David Talbot
which is about the people who changed San Francisco and the
people who tried to resist change.
The
problem is that the dosage range that gets you high
isn't all that far off from the dosage that kills. Heroin
is actually safer in that respect. Fentanyl is another
narrow-range narcotic ... which nailed Prince.
Time to just end the 'drug war'. X-percent are gonna
be stonies pretty much no matter what and that's that.
No point in funding huge crime organizations, corrupting
cops and officials, funding the companies that provide
expensive drug-war-fighting stuff. No point in turning
stonies into criminals who have to skulk in the darkest
corners of society while the drunks are free to stumble
down the street to the nearest bar. No point in fueling
street-level gangs that massacre each other and anyone
who gets in the way like it was the 1920s. No point in
corrupting constitutional protections of due process,
evidence-gathering and rational sentencing either.
There are also some annoying cultural/racial/class bias
issues involved that shouldn't exist.
The War on Cannabis started with 1937s Hemp Tax Act
which gave the old Bureau of Narcotics work after the repeal
of Alcohol Prohibition. Racist and sexist arguments were
used with the then Democratic majorities in the House and
Senate. Roosevelt never read the bill he signed assured that
it had to to with a narcotic drug. In case you don't know
the old Democratic Party prior to the Warren Court's overturn
of the Separate but Equal segregation system, was the party of
the South. The current Republican party accepted the
segregationists back in the 1960s. The Democrats reorganized
themselves with Northern Liberals, minority strivers and labor
and anyone else who could not go with a party that supported
actors and plutocrats.
The real problem is our drug orientated society. Americans are by far
the biggest users of prescription meds in general and opioids in
particular. This modern heroin epidemic isn't driven by "stonies" who
just want to get high, it's driven by pain patients whose
prescriptions have been cut off and resort to black market opioids. Eventually they get to heroin - the mother of all opioids
Heroin is the child of the war on drugs. Bayer developed it as
a cough suppressant. All the scientists on the project tried it out on themselves and the rest of their families. No problems were seen.
Previous to the hysterical WOD you could buy Elixir of Terpin
Hydrate with Codeine and this saved peoples lives by keeping them
from dying of exhaustion with coughing.
Heroin entered the illegal drug trade because it was very compact and much easier for the smuggling.
As for Americans being drug-oriented of course it is but what is the problem? We are pushed to drink coffee(caffeine) and allowed still to
smoke tobacco to stay awake. Alcohol was pushed for years
as necessary to relaxation and still is if you look at a show like
"Blue Bloods" where everyone of age partakes of whiskey on a regular
basis in the show. I read Cannabis Culture, a free on paper magazine,
here in the SFBA and it promotes the use of cannabis in the strange
new forms of wax and so forth which I think is a bad idea for medical
cannabis. All of the drugs except cannabis have been with us since
the beginnings of the nation in the old colonial system.
The Puritans drank to suppress sanity and sexual urges. Also
they did not know about germ theory and the cause of illness so
rum was diluted to "purify" water. Same for beer.
Most stonies CAN do stuff ... even if it's just working
at the Circle-K ... but the current environment makes
that almost impossible, leaving them nothing but a
life of crime to survive on.
So just DROP the damned drug war. Clean dope in
measured strengths for realistic prices ... and 99%
of the "drug problem" and its ludicrous, pointless,
expense will just disappear. Tax on the sales can go
to programs for people who get tired of being stonies.
So who's FOR the drug war ? Corrupt cops and pols
and mind-everybodys-business neo-puritans For
everyone else the negatives greatly exceed any benifits.
I agree with your assessment of the drug war - it certainly has failed miserably - but there are real problems with simply selling dope over
the counter. For one thing, the number of users would jump sharply.
Opioid addiction would skyrocket.
Evidenciary Studies??
Why do you think it would skyrocket? Love of constipation?
Our best long term solution is to learn to treat pain and illness
without addictive medications.
Swill
Your opinions certainly resemble the swill dished out by the
agencies that promote the War On Some Drugs.
We treat pain with appropriate substances whether cannabinoid
or opoid or electronic such as TENS or liniment. Addiction is a quality
of the personality where the addict looks outside themselves to seek
relief of discomfort, physical or emotional.
Sometimes opiates are the best treatment despite their problems
and sometimes an aspirin or phenacetin is the best treatment. Never take
more than you need. Both Aspirin and Phenacetin are poisonous in large
doses and aspirin causes death more often than many other legal drugs.
bliss
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