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On 7/31/2025 11:41 PM, c186282 wrote:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST [shrieking] 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

Technically, if you're in the US without proper
procedure and paperwork you're a CRIMINAL [shrieking] and
may indeed be deported.

False. Unlawful presence is not a crime. Improper entry is a crime, but unlawful
presence is not. A person who is found to be unlawfully present faces *no* criminal prosecution, cannot be incarcerated for it, and the worst consequences faced are deportation and a possible (probably) ban on reentry for some period of time. A person apprehended in the act of improper entry /could/ face misdemeanor prosecution, but that almost never happened in the past, until the first criminal Nazi filth Trump regime instituted a "zero-tolerance" policy in 2018. That's also what began Trump's Nazi family separation terrorism policy.

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David Elsan <[email protected]> wrote in news:2XrjQ.234455$[email protected]:

On 7/31/2025 11:41 PM, c186282 wrote:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST [shrieking] 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

Technically, if you're in the US without proper
procedure and paperwork you're a CRIMINAL [shrieking] and
may indeed be deported.

False. Unlawful presence is not a crime. Improper entry is a crime,
but unlawful presence is not. A person who is found to be unlawfully
present faces *no* criminal prosecution, cannot be incarcerated for
it, and the worst consequences faced are deportation and a possible (probably) ban on reentry for some period of time. A person
apprehended in the act of improper entry /could/ face misdemeanor prosecution, but that almost never happened in the past, until the
first criminal Nazi filth Trump regime instituted a "zero-tolerance"
policy in 2018. That's also what began Trump's Nazi family separation terrorism policy.

This is correct.

Illegal RE-entry, entering after
having been deported, IS a felony and
men are doing prison time for it. But
no state or county wants the expense
of jailing first time illegal immigrants
who have broken no law.

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On 8/2/2025 11:17 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:

David Elsan <[email protected]> wrote in news:2XrjQ.234455$[email protected]:

On 7/31/2025 11:41 PM, c186282 wrote:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST [shrieking] 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

Technically, if you're in the US without proper
procedure and paperwork you're a CRIMINAL [shrieking] and
may indeed be deported.

False. Unlawful presence is not a crime. Improper entry is a crime,
but unlawful presence is not. A person who is found to be unlawfully
present faces *no* criminal prosecution, cannot be incarcerated for
it, and the worst consequences faced are deportation and a possible
(probably) ban on reentry for some period of time. A person
apprehended in the act of improper entry /could/ face misdemeanor
prosecution, but that almost never happened in the past, until the
first criminal Nazi filth Trump regime instituted a "zero-tolerance"
policy in 2018. That's also what began Trump's Nazi family separation
terrorism policy.

This is correct.

Illegal RE-entry, entering after
having been deported, IS a felony and
men are doing prison time for it.

I believe there is prosecutorial discretion to prosecute it either as a felon or
misdemeanor.

But no state or county wants the expense
of jailing first time illegal immigrants
who have broken no law.

It wouldn't be the states or counties, anyway. The convicted person might be held in a state or county lockup, but the feds would pay for it. A person who is
convicted for illegal reentry who has other convictions for certain aggravated felonies can face incarceration for up to 20 years.

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