• Midtown Manhattan - At Least 6 Shot, 1 Cop Dead + 4 Civvies

    From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 28 21:20:15 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    The pic shows a well-dressed man ... MAYbe arabic, MAYbe
    'black', MAYbe 'Mex' ... carrying some kind of military-
    looking long-gun.

    Reportedly he shot some cops, and some others in a
    big-biz office building then went up in another
    building and allegedly shot himself.

    27 year old perp from Vegas - no known link to NYC.

    The photo of the perp, looked to be 'walking with
    purpose'. Rifle right out in the open.

    Hints this was 'targeted' - went to a specific floor
    in the office building. Photos show people in some
    offices putting up huge barricades at the doors.

    Don't THINK it's an Iran/Hamas thing - they would
    be unlikely to kill themselves after the fact, more
    likely to explode and take 50 others with them.
    Don't expect suicide from a cartel member either,
    blaze-of-glory is the macho thing.

    In any case, a good segment of Midtown was evacuated
    except for tons of cops and FBI.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jul 29 01:45:23 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 2025-07-29, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    The pic shows a well-dressed man ... MAYbe arabic, MAYbe
    'black', MAYbe 'Mex' ... carrying some kind of military-
    looking long-gun.

    Reportedly he shot some cops, and some others in a
    big-biz office building then went up in another
    building and allegedly shot himself.

    27 year old perp from Vegas - no known link to NYC.

    The photo of the perp, looked to be 'walking with
    purpose'. Rifle right out in the open.

    Hints this was 'targeted' - went to a specific floor
    in the office building. Photos show people in some
    offices putting up huge barricades at the doors.

    Don't THINK it's an Iran/Hamas thing - they would
    be unlikely to kill themselves after the fact, more
    likely to explode and take 50 others with them.
    Don't expect suicide from a cartel member either,
    blaze-of-glory is the macho thing.

    In any case, a good segment of Midtown was evacuated
    except for tons of cops and FBI.

    Welcome to NYC where the libbys claim crime is down.
    They fail to understand how crime reporting is being
    massaged.


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  • From Dark Brandon@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 28 19:49:25 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 7/28/2025 7:20 PM, c186282 wrote:
    The pic shows a well-dressed man ... MAYbe arabic, MAYbe
    'black', MAYbe 'Mex' ... carrying some kind of military-
    looking long-gun.

    Reportedly he shot some cops, and some others in a
    big-biz office building then went up in another
    building and allegedly shot himself.

    27 year old perp from Vegas - no known link to NYC.

    The photo of the perp, looked to be 'walking with
    purpose'. Rifle right out in the open.

    Hints this was 'targeted' - went to a specific floor
    in the office building. Photos show people in some
    offices putting up huge barricades at the doors.

    Don't THINK it's an Iran/Hamas thing - they would
    be unlikely to kill themselves after the fact, more
    likely to explode and take 50 others with them.
    Don't expect suicide from a cartel member either,
    blaze-of-glory is the macho thing.

    In any case, a good segment of Midtown was evacuated
    except for tons of cops and FBI.

    The gunman is described as a former NFL football player and the
    headquarters of the NFL is in the building on the 33rs floor where the
    gunman is reported to have killed himself by gunshot to the head.

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    homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
    Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
    phase of the Kalergi Plan.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to pothead on Mon Jul 28 21:59:44 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 7/28/25 9:45 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-07-29, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    The pic shows a well-dressed man ... MAYbe arabic, MAYbe
    'black', MAYbe 'Mex' ... carrying some kind of military-
    looking long-gun.

    Reportedly he shot some cops, and some others in a
    big-biz office building then went up in another
    building and allegedly shot himself.

    27 year old perp from Vegas - no known link to NYC.

    The photo of the perp, looked to be 'walking with
    purpose'. Rifle right out in the open.

    Hints this was 'targeted' - went to a specific floor
    in the office building. Photos show people in some
    offices putting up huge barricades at the doors.

    Don't THINK it's an Iran/Hamas thing - they would
    be unlikely to kill themselves after the fact, more
    likely to explode and take 50 others with them.
    Don't expect suicide from a cartel member either,
    blaze-of-glory is the macho thing.

    In any case, a good segment of Midtown was evacuated
    except for tons of cops and FBI.

    Welcome to NYC where the libbys claim crime is down.
    They fail to understand how crime reporting is being
    massaged.

    Heh ... they learned it from Clinton's "balanced
    budget" tricks :-)

    Anyway, a lot of big cities seem to be going all
    Clockwork Orange now.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Dark Brandon on Mon Jul 28 22:07:18 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 7/28/25 9:49 PM, Dark Brandon wrote:
    On 7/28/2025 7:20 PM, c186282 wrote:
    The pic shows a well-dressed man ... MAYbe arabic, MAYbe
    'black', MAYbe 'Mex' ... carrying some kind of military-
    looking long-gun.

    Reportedly he shot some cops, and some others in a
    big-biz office building then went up in another
    building and allegedly shot himself.

    27 year old perp from Vegas - no known link to NYC.

    The photo of the perp, looked to be 'walking with
    purpose'. Rifle right out in the open.

    Hints this was 'targeted' - went to a specific floor
    in the office building. Photos show people in some
    offices putting up huge barricades at the doors.

    Don't THINK it's an Iran/Hamas thing - they would
    be unlikely to kill themselves after the fact, more
    likely to explode and take 50 others with them.
    Don't expect suicide from a cartel member either,
    blaze-of-glory is the macho thing.

    In any case, a good segment of Midtown was evacuated
    except for tons of cops and FBI.

    The gunman is described as a former NFL football player and the
    headquarters of the NFL is in the building on the 33rs floor where the
    gunman is reported to have killed himself by gunshot to the head.

    Shane Tamura ... that's the name.

    Doesn't look big enough to be NFL however.

    Update is that the three civvies also died. There
    may be one or two more, but no reports of death.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu Jul 31 15:39:42 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 01:45:23 -0000 (UTC), pothead
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Welcome to NYC where the libbys claim crime is down.
    They fail to understand how crime reporting is being
    massaged.

    And you fail to understand that conservative lying is dying.

    Allow me to take you on a tour of NYC, AOC's district in fact.

    <https://nypost.com/2025/07/27/us-news/aoc-ripped-as-her-nyc-district-is-overrun-by-market-of-sweethearts/>

    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    <https://youtu.be/Y71-Ku9I-0c?si=LY-3aBi-SoNFSk2M>


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    Then our choices make us."
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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Jul 31 15:46:00 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 2025-07-31, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/29/25 5:51 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-07-29, Dark Brandon <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/28/2025 8:07 PM, c186282 wrote:
    On 7/28/25 9:49 PM, Dark Brandon wrote:
    On 7/28/2025 7:20 PM, c186282 wrote:
    The pic shows a well-dressed man ... MAYbe arabic, MAYbe
    'black', MAYbe 'Mex' ... carrying some kind of military-
    looking long-gun.

    Reportedly he shot some cops, and some others in a
    big-biz office building then went up in another
    building and allegedly shot himself.

    27 year old perp from Vegas - no known link to NYC.

    The photo of the perp, looked to be 'walking with
    purpose'. Rifle right out in the open.

    Hints this was 'targeted' - went to a specific floor
    in the office building. Photos show people in some
    offices putting up huge barricades at the doors.

    Don't THINK it's an Iran/Hamas thing - they would
    be unlikely to kill themselves after the fact, more
    likely to explode and take 50 others with them.
    Don't expect suicide from a cartel member either,
    blaze-of-glory is the macho thing.

    In any case, a good segment of Midtown was evacuated
    except for tons of cops and FBI.

    The gunman is described as a former NFL football player and the
    headquarters of the NFL is in the building on the 33rs floor where the >>>>> gunman is reported to have killed himself by gunshot to the head.

      Shane Tamura ... that's the name.

      Doesn't look big enough to be NFL however.

      Update is that the three civvies also died. There
      may be one or two more, but no reports of death.

    You gotta wonder why a man who allegedly shot himself would first put on >>> a bullet proof vest.

    The guy is obviously an unstable nutcase.
    This kind of crap is going to increase in incidents.
    And it doesn't always have to be some terrorist from the middle east.
    The world has gone crazy.
    Every time I travel to NYC I am very nervous and have my head on
    a swivel.
    I also carry my Byrna in my clutch.

    His "manifesto" sez he was SURE the NFL was
    somehow indirectly responsible for his mental
    problems. MIGHT have had something to do with
    youth football, or maybe he went nuts on his own.

    He shot himself in the heart, asking some docs
    to study his brain.

    That's what seems to be coming out from this mess.
    I do not support tackle football for minors.



    Oh, a Bren-10 will work better than a little
    stun gun :-)

    Yea, but too permenant.
    If I had to use it and actually killed an attacker,
    NYC would build a statue of the attacker and toss me
    in jail despite being licensed.

    In NYC criminals have more rights than the victims.




    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
    -- Anne Frank

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to pothead on Thu Jul 31 11:59:43 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.


    -hh

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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Jul 31 09:36:35 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 7/31/2025 8:59 AM, -hh wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.

    Of course "pothole" doesn't have a citation for that. He never has a citation for any of his claims. There are lots of large cities that have *always* been safer than NYC: Toronto, Tokyo, London, Paris, Berlin, Vienna all come to mind.

    "pothole" is simply an ultra-MAGAt idiot.

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  • From Alan Bond@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Jul 31 10:43:22 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 7/31/2025 8:59 AM, -hh wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.

    This site ranks 300 cities in the world for safety: https://ceoworld.biz/2025/05/12/ranked-safest-cities-in-the-world-2025/

    I have no idea how the scores are determined, but they say this:

    Some cities around the world have higher crime rates than others, which can
    dampen your travel experience. However, many urban areas are safe to visit or
    stay in, allowing you to enjoy the sights, sounds, and culture of your chosen
    destination with peace of mind. The world’s safest cities boast low crime
    rates, making them ideal for both tourists and residents. Factors such as
    strong law enforcement, security measures, and stable governments contribute
    to the high safety levels in these cities.

    NYC currently ranks 206 out of 300, with a safety score of 67.72. Here are the top 10:

    1 Abu Dhabi United Arab Emirates 97.73
    2 Taipei Taiwan 97.5
    3 Doha Qatar 97.35
    4 Ajman United Arab Emirates 97.04
    5 Dubai United Arab Emirates 97.03
    6 Ras al-Khaimah United Arab Emirates 96.98
    7 Muscat Oman 96.93
    8 The Hague (Den Haag) Netherlands 96.89
    9 Bern Switzerland 96.79
    10 Munich Germany 96.67

    There is no fucking way NYC could fall from "safest large city in the world" to #206, especially given that NYC is unquestionably much safer now than it was in the past. There's a reason we got so many movies about crime in NYC in the 1970s: it really *was* a dangerous city then.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to pothead on Thu Jul 31 17:50:40 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:106g33n$3r0vh$[email protected]:



    In NYC criminals have more rights than the victims.


    In the CONSTITUTION criminals have
    more rights than victims.

    Why do you hate the Constitution?

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Thu Jul 31 17:52:54 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    J Carlson <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:106g62j$3s270$[email protected]:

    On 7/31/2025 8:59 AM, -hh wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal
    migration does to a city that was once the safest large city in the
    world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.

    Of course "pothole" doesn't have a citation for that. He never has a
    citation for any of his claims. There are lots of large cities that
    have *always* been safer than NYC: Toronto, Tokyo, London, Paris,
    Berlin, Vienna all come to mind.

    "pothole" is simply an ultra-MAGAt idiot.



    Funny how many people come to the above
    conclusion after dealing with "pothole"
    for awhile.............

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  • From Clave@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Thu Jul 31 11:17:08 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 7/31/2025 10:50 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:106g33n$3r0vh$[email protected]:



    In NYC criminals have more rights than the victims.

    Just a really stupid lie.



    In the CONSTITUTION criminals have
    more rights than victims.

    Why do you hate the Constitution?

    Right-wingnuts like "pothole" don't have a fucking clue what rights are, why they are needed, and *against whom* they are held. If a person is charged with a
    crime and faces deprivation of life, liberty and property, that person is *especially* in need of rights, and having them respected.

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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Thu Jul 31 11:21:28 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 7/31/2025 10:52 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    J Carlson <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:106g62j$3s270$[email protected]:

    On 7/31/2025 8:59 AM, -hh wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal
    migration does to a city that was once the safest large city in the
    world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.

    Of course "pothole" doesn't have a citation for that. He never has a
    citation for any of his claims. There are lots of large cities that
    have *always* been safer than NYC: Toronto, Tokyo, London, Paris,
    Berlin, Vienna all come to mind.

    "pothole" is simply an ultra-MAGAt idiot.



    Funny how many people come to the above
    conclusion after dealing with "pothole"
    for awhile.............

    Same as with Kremlin Girl, same as with AlleyPussyBitch, same as with "Steve Canyon," same as with Hartung, same as with 'c186282' (the Nazi pseudo-sage) —
    all of the right-wingnut extremists are hypocritical liars. Nearly all of them are real assholes, too. I'll exclude Hartung from that, although most of his civility seemed feigned to me.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan Bond on Thu Jul 31 16:13:26 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 7/31/25 13:43, Alan Bond wrote:
    On 7/31/2025 8:59 AM, -hh wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal
    migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.

    (citation still pending)

    This site ranks 300 cities in the world for safety: https://ceoworld.biz/2025/05/12/ranked-safest-cities-in-the-world-2025/

    I have no idea how the scores are determined, but they say this:

    Some cities around the world have higher crime rates than others,
    which can dampen your travel experience. However, many urban areas
    are safe to visit or stay in, allowing you to enjoy the sights,
    sounds, and culture of your chosen destination with peace of mind.
    The world’s safest cities boast low crime rates, making them ideal
    for both tourists and residents. Factors such as strong law
    enforcement, security measures, and stable governments contribute
    to the high safety levels in these cities.

    NYC currently ranks 206 out of 300, with a safety score of 67.72. Here
    are the top 10:

       1 Abu Dhabi United Arab Emirates       97.73
       2 Taipei Taiwan                        97.5
       3 Doha Qatar                           97.35
       4 Ajman United Arab Emirates           97.04
       5 Dubai United Arab Emirates           97.03
       6 Ras al-Khaimah United Arab Emirates  96.98
       7 Muscat Oman                          96.93
       8 The Hague (Den Haag) Netherlands     96.89
       9 Bern Switzerland                     96.79
      10 Munich Germany                       96.67

    Interesting list. Looks like I've been to 20% of the listings which
    rank higher than the USA's safest city of Salt Lake City in 96th place,
    as well as many others .. 64 of the total 300 list = 21%.

    Naturally, someone will try to tell me that Faux told them that
    everything's actually horrible everywhere, so stay locked up terrified
    in yon white picket fence suburban home & buy Trump sneakers, et al.


    There is no fucking way NYC could fall from "safest large city in the
    world" to #206, especially given that NYC is unquestionably much safer
    now than it was in the past. There's a reason we got so many movies
    about crime in NYC in the 1970s: it really *was* a dangerous city then.

    Its the classical "make great again" propaganda, because by not
    articulating when this past greatness was, it avoids being fact-checked.


    -hh

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Jul 31 16:27:44 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    -hh wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal
    migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.

    Try Tokyo.

    A well armed Japan is a polite Japan.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Aug 1 00:09:47 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.


    -hh

    Ok, in USA, not world, at least not that I can find a cite for ATM.
    So I am mistaken, however that doesn't change what the democrats did to NYC
    to turn it into a cesspool.
    You know, the part you snipped.


    https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/giuliani-administration-transforms-new-york-city

    <https://americanmind.org/features/the-rise-and-fall-of-new-york/new-york-a-cautionary-tale/>

    <https://www.nyc.gov/assets/records/pdf/mayoral-collections/rudolph-w-giuliani-records-1994-2001.pdf>



    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to pothead on Thu Jul 31 22:03:37 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 7/31/25 8:09 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.


    -hh

    Ok, in USA, not world, at least not that I can find a cite for ATM.
    So I am mistaken, however that doesn't change what the democrats did to NYC to turn it into a cesspool.
    You know, the part you snipped.


    https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/giuliani-administration-transforms-new-york-city

    <https://americanmind.org/features/the-rise-and-fall-of-new-york/new-york-a-cautionary-tale/>

    <https://www.nyc.gov/assets/records/pdf/mayoral-collections/rudolph-w-giuliani-records-1994-2001.pdf>


    I never heard anywhere that it was the "safest" city.
    However it's been a lot safer than it is now.

    Surprised the cops don't just quit en-masse ... does
    not matter what they do, they're ALWAYS treated as
    the guilty party. The govt does NOT have their backs.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to pothead on Fri Aug 1 07:53:00 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 7/31/25 20:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.


    -hh

    Ok, in USA, not world, at least not that I can find a cite for ATM.

    Its hard for NYC to have ever been safer than Salt Lake City. /s


    So I am mistaken, however that doesn't change what the democrats did to NYC to turn it into a cesspool.

    Was that before, during or after Jerry Ford told NYC to "Drop Dead"?
    You remember that, don't you?


    You know, the part you snipped.


    https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/giuliani-administration-transforms-new-york-city

    <https://americanmind.org/features/the-rise-and-fall-of-new-york/new-york-a-cautionary-tale/>

    <https://www.nyc.gov/assets/records/pdf/mayoral-collections/rudolph-w-giuliani-records-1994-2001.pdf>


    Rudy certainly did clean things up in his era, but how much came from
    better Federal support? Especially after 9/11?

    Plus because the rates today are still at or below what they were back
    in the 1990s, when you're trying to place blame on "the democrats", it
    means that your 30 year reachback attempt is a full human generation.


    -hh

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Aug 1 14:30:39 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 2025-08-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 20:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.


    -hh

    Ok, in USA, not world, at least not that I can find a cite for ATM.

    Its hard for NYC to have ever been safer than Salt Lake City. /s


    So I am mistaken, however that doesn't change what the democrats did to NYC >> to turn it into a cesspool.

    Was that before, during or after Jerry Ford told NYC to "Drop Dead"?
    You remember that, don't you?


    You know, the part you snipped.


    https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/giuliani-administration-transforms-new-york-city

    <https://americanmind.org/features/the-rise-and-fall-of-new-york/new-york-a-cautionary-tale/>

    <https://www.nyc.gov/assets/records/pdf/mayoral-collections/rudolph-w-giuliani-records-1994-2001.pdf>


    Rudy certainly did clean things up in his era, but how much came from
    better Federal support? Especially after 9/11?

    Plus because the rates today are still at or below what they were back
    in the 1990s, when you're trying to place blame on "the democrats", it
    means that your 30 year reachback attempt is a full human generation.


    -hh



    *Large City*

    Currently SLC is the 46th-largest population city in the USA.

    NYC is #1 although that is likely to be revised down as people and
    business continue to flee that cesspool.

    Point is, Guiliani's policies cleaned up a city that was a disaster.
    Bloomberg maintained most if not all of Guilani's policies and
    things remained much the same.

    Enter Marxist DeBlasio and his corrupt wife and NYC went to hell
    in a hand basket.

    And Adams despite his recent "say anything to get elected" campaign is
    much like DeBlasio.

    BTW since you seem to ride the NYC subways, here are 2 tips for you:

    1. When waiting on the platform stand with your back to one of the
    vertical iron girders supporting the station. And of course never go near
    the edge of the platform until the train arrives and is stopped.

    2. Choose either the car the conductor is in or a car that has a decent
    number of people in it and NEVER choose an end seat near a door nor stand near a door. You are a prime target for a grab-and-go attack.




    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
    -- Anne Frank

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri Aug 1 09:02:06 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 22:03:37 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Surprised the cops don't just quit en-masse ... does
    not matter what they do, they're ALWAYS treated as
    the guilty party. The govt does NOT have their backs.

    More propaganda.


    Maybe it is just propaganda, but when I hear New York Police, I picture Slobodan Homan.

    --
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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Aug 1 09:08:08 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    -hh wrote:
    So I am mistaken, however that doesn't change what the democrats did
    to NYC
    to turn it into a cesspool.

    Was that before, during or after Jerry Ford told NYC to "Drop Dead"?
    You remember that, don't you?

    I remember when they need money to repair the Statue of Liberty, it was
    the nation's Statue of Liberty. When they finished, it became New York's
    Statue of Liberty.

    Screw you, New York.

    --
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    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to pothead on Fri Aug 1 12:34:45 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 8/1/25 10:30, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 20:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.


    -hh

    Ok, in USA, not world, at least not that I can find a cite for ATM.

    Its hard for NYC to have ever been safer than Salt Lake City. /s


    So I am mistaken, however that doesn't change what the democrats did to NYC >>> to turn it into a cesspool.

    Was that before, during or after Jerry Ford told NYC to "Drop Dead"?
    You remember that, don't you?


    You know, the part you snipped.


    https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/giuliani-administration-transforms-new-york-city

    <https://americanmind.org/features/the-rise-and-fall-of-new-york/new-york-a-cautionary-tale/>

    <https://www.nyc.gov/assets/records/pdf/mayoral-collections/rudolph-w-giuliani-records-1994-2001.pdf>


    Rudy certainly did clean things up in his era, but how much came from
    better Federal support? Especially after 9/11?

    Plus because the rates today are still at or below what they were back
    in the 1990s, when you're trying to place blame on "the democrats", it
    means that your 30 year reachback attempt is a full human generation.


    -hh



    *Large City*

    Currently SLC is the 46th-largest population city in the USA.

    SLC was merely on the "safest cities" list that was posted.


    NYC is #1 although that is likely to be revised down as people and
    business continue to flee that cesspool.

    Point is, Guiliani's policies cleaned up a city that was a disaster. Bloomberg maintained most if not all of Guilani's policies and
    things remained much the same.

    Enter Marxist DeBlasio and his corrupt wife and NYC went to hell
    in a hand basket.

    And Adams despite his recent "say anything to get elected" campaign is
    much like DeBlasio.

    Except for how the metrics aren't showing support for your claims:

    <https://www.vitalcitynyc.org/dataviz/all-seven-major-felony-crimes-are-at-lower-rates-than-the-1990s>


    BTW since you seem to ride the NYC subways, here are 2 tips for you:

    Seems that I'm riding them more frequently than you've been.


    1. When waiting on the platform stand with your back to one of the
    vertical iron girders supporting the station. And of course never go near
    the edge of the platform until the train arrives and is stopped.

    That's one approach. I have another that's more effective.


    2. Choose either the car the conductor is in or a car that has a decent number of people in it and NEVER choose an end seat near a door nor stand near
    a door. You are a prime target for a grab-and-go attack.
    Of course, not having objects openly available is too. But what do I
    know, having only been a mass transit user since the '70s. /s


    -hh

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Fri Aug 1 16:41:43 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 2025-08-01, chine.bleu <[email protected]> wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 22:03:37 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Surprised the cops don't just quit en-masse ... does
    not matter what they do, they're ALWAYS treated as
    the guilty party. The govt does NOT have their backs.

    More propaganda.


    Maybe it is just propaganda, but when I hear New York Police, I picture Slobodan Homan.

    Until you need to call them for help.

    <https://nypost.com/2025/06/28/us-news/electing-socialist-zohran-mamdani-nyc-mayor-would-spur-cop-exodus-rising-crime-experts/>

    <https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nypd-suffering-from-mass-exodus-of-officers-creating-safety-and-security-concerns/>

    <https://nypost.com/2024/05/18/us-news/nypd-headcount-faces-record-lows-200-nyc-cops-leave-per-month-data/>


    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
    -- Anne Frank

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Aug 1 17:22:10 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 2025-08-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 8/1/25 10:30, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 20:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.


    -hh

    Ok, in USA, not world, at least not that I can find a cite for ATM.

    Its hard for NYC to have ever been safer than Salt Lake City. /s


    So I am mistaken, however that doesn't change what the democrats did to NYC
    to turn it into a cesspool.

    Was that before, during or after Jerry Ford told NYC to "Drop Dead"?
    You remember that, don't you?


    You know, the part you snipped.


    https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/giuliani-administration-transforms-new-york-city

    <https://americanmind.org/features/the-rise-and-fall-of-new-york/new-york-a-cautionary-tale/>

    <https://www.nyc.gov/assets/records/pdf/mayoral-collections/rudolph-w-giuliani-records-1994-2001.pdf>


    Rudy certainly did clean things up in his era, but how much came from
    better Federal support? Especially after 9/11?

    Plus because the rates today are still at or below what they were back
    in the 1990s, when you're trying to place blame on "the democrats", it
    means that your 30 year reachback attempt is a full human generation.


    -hh



    *Large City*

    Currently SLC is the 46th-largest population city in the USA.

    SLC was merely on the "safest cities" list that was posted.


    NYC is #1 although that is likely to be revised down as people and
    business continue to flee that cesspool.

    Point is, Guiliani's policies cleaned up a city that was a disaster.
    Bloomberg maintained most if not all of Guilani's policies and
    things remained much the same.

    Enter Marxist DeBlasio and his corrupt wife and NYC went to hell
    in a hand basket.

    And Adams despite his recent "say anything to get elected" campaign is
    much like DeBlasio.

    Except for how the metrics aren't showing support for your claims:

    <https://www.vitalcitynyc.org/dataviz/all-seven-major-felony-crimes-are-at-lower-rates-than-the-1990s>

    Key word *felony*.
    Have you checked other types of crimes?
    Have you checked DA policies for routinely downgrading charges far more often than
    typical?
    Have you checked perps who were released multiple times due to soft on crime policies only to commit even more crimes?
    It's a revolving door.

    NYC is a dangerous zoo.




    BTW since you seem to ride the NYC subways, here are 2 tips for you:

    Seems that I'm riding them more frequently than you've been.


    1. When waiting on the platform stand with your back to one of the
    vertical iron girders supporting the station. And of course never go near
    the edge of the platform until the train arrives and is stopped.

    That's one approach. I have another that's more effective.

    So do I..........
    And I am trained, licensed and not afraid to use it.

    However my go to method these days is to not use the subway.
    You should follow that advice.


    2. Choose either the car the conductor is in or a car that has a decent
    number of people in it and NEVER choose an end seat near a door nor stand near
    a door. You are a prime target for a grab-and-go attack.
    Of course, not having objects openly available is too. But what do I
    know, having only been a mass transit user since the '70s. /s

    ROTFLMAO!
    I rode the subway every single to and from HS from 73 onward.
    Then every single day to and from college until I transferred.
    And last but not least, every single day to and from work in NYC.

    Actually I started riding the subway when I was about 11 yo.
    We all did. Going into the big city, Manhattan, was a lot of fun.
    Mom and dad of course didn't know, or maybe they did, I dunno.

    So there is literally nothing you can tell me about the subway that
    I don't already know except that I wouldn't go near it these days.
    People getting set on fire?
    Not my idea of a fun day.

    I drive into the city, garage the car or sometimes take the LIRR, and then Uber to wherever
    I am headed to.
    Oh, and these days my son who lives in the city won't even take the subway.

    -hh


    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
    -- Anne Frank

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  • From Trump Is A Pederast@21:1/5 to pothead on Fri Aug 1 10:49:27 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 8/1/2025 10:22 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 8/1/25 10:30, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 20:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.


    -hh

    Ok, in USA, not world, at least not that I can find a cite for ATM.

    Its hard for NYC to have ever been safer than Salt Lake City. /s


    So I am mistaken, however that doesn't change what the democrats did to NYC
    to turn it into a cesspool.

    Was that before, during or after Jerry Ford told NYC to "Drop Dead"?
    You remember that, don't you?


    You know, the part you snipped.


    https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/giuliani-administration-transforms-new-york-city

    <https://americanmind.org/features/the-rise-and-fall-of-new-york/new-york-a-cautionary-tale/>

    <https://www.nyc.gov/assets/records/pdf/mayoral-collections/rudolph-w-giuliani-records-1994-2001.pdf>


    Rudy certainly did clean things up in his era, but how much came from
    better Federal support? Especially after 9/11?

    Plus because the rates today are still at or below what they were back >>>> in the 1990s, when you're trying to place blame on "the democrats", it >>>> means that your 30 year reachback attempt is a full human generation.


    -hh



    *Large City*

    Currently SLC is the 46th-largest population city in the USA.

    SLC was merely on the "safest cities" list that was posted.


    NYC is #1 although that is likely to be revised down as people and
    business continue to flee that cesspool.

    Point is, Guiliani's policies cleaned up a city that was a disaster.
    Bloomberg maintained most if not all of Guilani's policies and
    things remained much the same.

    Enter Marxist DeBlasio and his corrupt wife and NYC went to hell
    in a hand basket.

    And Adams despite his recent "say anything to get elected" campaign is
    much like DeBlasio.

    Except for how the metrics aren't showing support for your claims:

    <https://www.vitalcitynyc.org/dataviz/all-seven-major-felony-crimes-are-at-lower-rates-than-the-1990s>

    Key word *felony*.
    Have you checked other types of crimes?

    Felonies are what everyone has in mind in deciding if a city is safe or not, you
    fucking shitbag.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to pothead on Fri Aug 1 16:45:10 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 8/1/25 13:22, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 8/1/25 10:30, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 20:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.


    -hh

    Ok, in USA, not world, at least not that I can find a cite for ATM.

    Its hard for NYC to have ever been safer than Salt Lake City. /s


    So I am mistaken, however that doesn't change what the democrats did to NYC
    to turn it into a cesspool.

    Was that before, during or after Jerry Ford told NYC to "Drop Dead"?
    You remember that, don't you?


    You know, the part you snipped.


    https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/giuliani-administration-transforms-new-york-city

    <https://americanmind.org/features/the-rise-and-fall-of-new-york/new-york-a-cautionary-tale/>

    <https://www.nyc.gov/assets/records/pdf/mayoral-collections/rudolph-w-giuliani-records-1994-2001.pdf>


    Rudy certainly did clean things up in his era, but how much came from
    better Federal support? Especially after 9/11?

    Plus because the rates today are still at or below what they were back >>>> in the 1990s, when you're trying to place blame on "the democrats", it >>>> means that your 30 year reachback attempt is a full human generation.


    -hh



    *Large City*

    Currently SLC is the 46th-largest population city in the USA.

    SLC was merely on the "safest cities" list that was posted.


    NYC is #1 although that is likely to be revised down as people and
    business continue to flee that cesspool.

    Point is, Guiliani's policies cleaned up a city that was a disaster.
    Bloomberg maintained most if not all of Guilani's policies and
    things remained much the same.

    Enter Marxist DeBlasio and his corrupt wife and NYC went to hell
    in a hand basket.

    And Adams despite his recent "say anything to get elected" campaign is
    much like DeBlasio.

    Except for how the metrics aren't showing support for your claims:

    <https://www.vitalcitynyc.org/dataviz/all-seven-major-felony-crimes-are-at-lower-rates-than-the-1990s>

    Key word *felony*.
    Have you checked other types of crimes?

    More than you have.


    Have you checked DA policies for routinely downgrading charges far more often than
    typical?
    Have you checked perps who were released multiple times due to soft on crime policies only to commit even more crimes?


    More than you have.

    It's a revolving door.

    NYC is a dangerous zoo.

    Terrified suburban attitude...


    BTW since you seem to ride the NYC subways, here are 2 tips for you:

    Seems that I'm riding them more frequently than you've been.


    1. When waiting on the platform stand with your back to one of the
    vertical iron girders supporting the station. And of course never go near >>> the edge of the platform until the train arrives and is stopped.

    That's one approach. I have another that's more effective.

    So do I..........
    And I am trained, licensed and not afraid to use it.

    In the subway? Didn't your training teach you about the 7m Rule?

    However my go to method these days is to not use the subway.
    You should follow that advice.I can't even recall the last time that I've had any real problem on the
    subway .. that is, other than the signaling problem on the F last week
    I've already mentioned, but that's not "crime". A quick $18 taxi solved
    the immediate need (appointment not missed), but that's still quite a
    bit more than the subway's $2.90 fare.

    2. Choose either the car the conductor is in or a car that has a decent
    number of people in it and NEVER choose an end seat near a door nor stand near
    a door. You are a prime target for a grab-and-go attack.

    Of course, not having objects openly available is too. But what do
    I know, having only been a mass transit user since the '70s. /s

    ROTFLMAO!
    I rode the subway every single to and from HS from 73 onward.
    Then every single day to and from college until I transferred.
    And last but not least, every single day to and from work in NYC.

    Actually I started riding the subway when I was about 11 yo.
    We all did. Going into the big city, Manhattan, was a lot of fun.
    Mom and dad of course didn't know, or maybe they did, I dunno.

    So there is literally nothing you can tell me about the subway that
    I don't already know except that I wouldn't go near it these days.

    Nothing... except for what it is currently really like vs beliefs.
    When was the last time you actually rode on it? 5 years ago? 10?

    People getting set on fire?
    Not my idea of a fun day.

    I drive into the city, garage the car or sometimes take the LIRR,
    and then Uber to wherever I am headed to.
    Oh, and these days my son who lives in the city won't even take the subway.
    And when was the last time they actually rode on it too?
    For nothing in life is risk-free, including sidewalks.


    -hh

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Aug 1 17:05:29 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    -hh wrote:
    On 8/1/25 13:22, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 8/1/25 10:30, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 20:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal >>>>>>>> migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was. >>>>>>>

    -hh

    Ok, in USA, not world, at least not that I can find a cite for ATM. >>>>>
    Its hard for NYC to have ever been safer than Salt Lake City. /s


    So I am mistaken, however that doesn't change what the democrats
    did to NYC
    to turn it into a cesspool.

    Was that before, during or after Jerry Ford told NYC to "Drop Dead"? >>>>> You remember that, don't you?


    You know, the part you snipped.


    https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/giuliani-administration-transforms-new-york-city


    <https://americanmind.org/features/the-rise-and-fall-of-new-york/new-york-a-cautionary-tale/>


    <https://www.nyc.gov/assets/records/pdf/mayoral-collections/rudolph-w-giuliani-records-1994-2001.pdf>



    Rudy certainly did clean things up in his era, but how much came from >>>>> better Federal support? Especially after 9/11?

    Plus because the rates today are still at or below what they were back >>>>> in the 1990s, when you're trying to place blame on "the democrats", it >>>>> means that your 30 year reachback attempt is a full human generation. >>>>>

    -hh



    *Large City*

    Currently SLC is the 46th-largest population city in the USA.

    SLC was merely on the "safest cities" list that was posted.


    NYC is #1 although that is likely to be revised down as people and
    business continue to flee that cesspool.

    Point is, Guiliani's policies cleaned up a city that was a disaster.
    Bloomberg maintained most if not all of Guilani's policies and
    things remained much the same.

    Enter Marxist DeBlasio and his corrupt wife and NYC went to hell
    in a hand basket.

    And Adams despite his recent "say anything to get elected" campaign is >>>> much like DeBlasio.

    Except for how the metrics aren't showing support for your claims:

    <https://www.vitalcitynyc.org/dataviz/all-seven-major-felony-crimes-are-at-lower-rates-than-the-1990s>


    Key word *felony*.
    Have you checked other types of crimes?

    More than you have.


    Have you checked DA policies for routinely downgrading charges far
    more often than
    typical?
    Have you checked perps who were released multiple times due to soft on
    crime
    policies only to commit even more crimes?


    More than you have.

    It's a revolving door.

    NYC is a dangerous zoo.

    Terrified suburban attitude...


    BTW since you seem to ride the NYC subways, here are 2 tips for you:

    Seems that I'm riding them more frequently than you've been.


    1. When waiting on the platform stand with your back to one of the
    vertical iron girders supporting the station. And of course never go
    near
    the edge of the platform until the train arrives and is stopped.

    That's one approach. I have another that's more effective.

    So do I..........
    And I am trained, licensed and not afraid to use it.

    In the subway? Didn't your training teach you about the 7m Rule?

    However my go to method these days is to not use the subway.
    You should follow that advice.I can't even recall the last time that
    I've had any real problem on the
    subway .. that is, other than the signaling problem on the F last week
    I've already mentioned, but that's not "crime". A quick $18 taxi solved
    the immediate need (appointment not missed), but that's still quite a
    bit more than the subway's $2.90 fare.

    2. Choose either the car the conductor is in or a car that has a decent >>>> number of people in it and NEVER choose an end seat near a door nor
    stand near
    a door. You are a prime target for a grab-and-go attack.

    Of course, not having objects openly available is too. But what do I
    know, having only been a mass transit user since the '70s. /s

    ROTFLMAO!
    I rode the subway every single to and from HS from 73 onward.
    Then every single day to and from college until I transferred.
    And last but not least, every single day to and from work in NYC.

    Actually I started riding the subway when I was about 11 yo.
    We all did. Going into the big city, Manhattan, was a lot of fun.
    Mom and dad of course didn't know, or maybe they did, I dunno.

    So there is literally nothing you can tell me about the subway that
    I don't already know except that I wouldn't go near it these days.

    Nothing... except for what it is currently really like vs beliefs.
    When was the last time you actually rode on it? 5 years ago? 10?

    People getting set on fire?
    Not my idea of a fun day.

    I drive into the city, garage the car or sometimes take the LIRR, and
    then Uber to wherever I am headed to.
    Oh, and these days my son who lives in the city won't even take the
    subway.
    And when was the last time they actually rode on it too?
    For nothing in life is risk-free, including sidewalks.


    -hh

    If only Los Angeles and New York are 'big cities', only a couple of big
    cities in the world.

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  • From Clave@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 2 10:16:22 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 7/31/2025 7:03 PM, , Nazi pseudo-sage and cocksucking cipher, took his hands and mouth off Xi's dick long enough to peck:
    On 7/31/25 8:09 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal migration >>>> does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was.


    -hh

    Ok, in USA, not world, at least not that I can find a cite for ATM.
    So I am mistaken, however that doesn't change what the democrats did to NYC >> to turn it into a cesspool.
    You know, the part you snipped.


    https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/giuliani-administration-
    transforms-new-york-city

    <https://americanmind.org/features/the-rise-and-fall-of-new-york/new-york-a- >> cautionary-tale/>

    <https://www.nyc.gov/assets/records/pdf/mayoral-collections/rudolph-w-
    giuliani-records-1994-2001.pdf>


      I never heard anywhere that it was the "safest" city.
      However it's been a lot safer than it is now.

    Bullshit. NYC today is *vastly* safer than it was in the 1970s and 1980s. The reason there were so many violent crime movies about NYC from the 1970s — "Death
    Wish," "Serpico," "Mean Streets," "The Taking of Pelham One Two Three," "Dog Day
    Afternoon," "The French Connection" — is because crime was sky-high back then.
    Today it isn't. Crime in NYC, particularly violent crime, is even far less than it was 25 years ago, let alone 50 years.

      Surprised the cops don't just quit en-masse ... does
      not matter what they do, they're ALWAYS [shrieking] treated as
      the guilty party. The govt does NOT [shrieking] have their backs.

    Complete and utter bullshit, and stop shrieking, you goddamned Nazi pseudo-sage shrieking faggot.

    You love to pose as a sage, someone who knows a lot about everything. In every fucking post, you reveal yourself to be a lying Nazi *pseudo*-sage, someone who knows nothing about anything.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Sat Aug 2 22:57:42 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 2025-08-02, chine.bleu <[email protected]> wrote:
    -hh wrote:
    On 8/1/25 13:22, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 8/1/25 10:30, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 20:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal >>>>>>>>> migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was. >>>>>>>>

    -hh

    Ok, in USA, not world, at least not that I can find a cite for ATM. >>>>>>
    Its hard for NYC to have ever been safer than Salt Lake City. /s


    So I am mistaken, however that doesn't change what the democrats >>>>>>> did to NYC
    to turn it into a cesspool.

    Was that before, during or after Jerry Ford told NYC to "Drop Dead"? >>>>>> You remember that, don't you?


    You know, the part you snipped.


    https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/giuliani-administration-transforms-new-york-city


    <https://americanmind.org/features/the-rise-and-fall-of-new-york/new-york-a-cautionary-tale/>


    <https://www.nyc.gov/assets/records/pdf/mayoral-collections/rudolph-w-giuliani-records-1994-2001.pdf>



    Rudy certainly did clean things up in his era, but how much came from >>>>>> better Federal support? Especially after 9/11?

    Plus because the rates today are still at or below what they were back >>>>>> in the 1990s, when you're trying to place blame on "the democrats", it >>>>>> means that your 30 year reachback attempt is a full human generation. >>>>>>

    -hh



    *Large City*

    Currently SLC is the 46th-largest population city in the USA.

    SLC was merely on the "safest cities" list that was posted.


    NYC is #1 although that is likely to be revised down as people and
    business continue to flee that cesspool.

    Point is, Guiliani's policies cleaned up a city that was a disaster. >>>>> Bloomberg maintained most if not all of Guilani's policies and
    things remained much the same.

    Enter Marxist DeBlasio and his corrupt wife and NYC went to hell
    in a hand basket.

    And Adams despite his recent "say anything to get elected" campaign is >>>>> much like DeBlasio.

    Except for how the metrics aren't showing support for your claims:

    <https://www.vitalcitynyc.org/dataviz/all-seven-major-felony-crimes-are-at-lower-rates-than-the-1990s>


    Key word *felony*.
    Have you checked other types of crimes?

    More than you have.


    Have you checked DA policies for routinely downgrading charges far
    more often than
    typical?
    Have you checked perps who were released multiple times due to soft on
    crime
    policies only to commit even more crimes?


    More than you have.

    It's a revolving door.

    NYC is a dangerous zoo.

    Terrified suburban attitude...


    BTW since you seem to ride the NYC subways, here are 2 tips for you:

    Seems that I'm riding them more frequently than you've been.


    1. When waiting on the platform stand with your back to one of the
    vertical iron girders supporting the station. And of course never go >>>>> near
    the edge of the platform until the train arrives and is stopped.

    That's one approach. I have another that's more effective.

    So do I..........
    And I am trained, licensed and not afraid to use it.

    In the subway? Didn't your training teach you about the 7m Rule?

    However my go to method these days is to not use the subway.
    You should follow that advice.I can't even recall the last time that
    I've had any real problem on the
    subway .. that is, other than the signaling problem on the F last week
    I've already mentioned, but that's not "crime". A quick $18 taxi solved
    the immediate need (appointment not missed), but that's still quite a
    bit more than the subway's $2.90 fare.

    2. Choose either the car the conductor is in or a car that has a decent >>>>> number of people in it and NEVER choose an end seat near a door nor
    stand near
    a door. You are a prime target for a grab-and-go attack.

    Of course, not having objects openly available is too. But what do I
    know, having only been a mass transit user since the '70s. /s

    ROTFLMAO!
    I rode the subway every single to and from HS from 73 onward.
    Then every single day to and from college until I transferred.
    And last but not least, every single day to and from work in NYC.

    Actually I started riding the subway when I was about 11 yo.
    We all did. Going into the big city, Manhattan, was a lot of fun.
    Mom and dad of course didn't know, or maybe they did, I dunno.

    So there is literally nothing you can tell me about the subway that
    I don't already know except that I wouldn't go near it these days.

    Nothing... except for what it is currently really like vs beliefs.
    When was the last time you actually rode on it? 5 years ago? 10?

    People getting set on fire?
    Not my idea of a fun day.

    I drive into the city, garage the car or sometimes take the LIRR, and
    then Uber to wherever I am headed to.
    Oh, and these days my son who lives in the city won't even take the
    subway.
    And when was the last time they actually rode on it too?
    For nothing in life is risk-free, including sidewalks.


    -hh

    If only Los Angeles and New York are 'big cities', only a couple of big cities in the world.

    Sadly both have become shit holes thanks to democratic leadership.
    While I haven't been to LA in about 5 years, I visit NYC at least once
    a month and it's truly a mess.
    Only a fool from N.J. aka the armpit of the USA would defend it.




    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to pothead on Sat Aug 2 20:02:55 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 8/2/25 18:57, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-02, chine.bleu <[email protected]> wrote:
    -hh wrote:
    On 8/1/25 13:22, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 8/1/25 10:30, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 20:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/31/25 11:39, pothead wrote:
    ....
    And a nice video to see what democrats and in this case illegal >>>>>>>>>> migration does to
    a city that was once the safest large city in the world.

    NYC was once the "safest large city in the world"...?

    Got cite for that?

    Because a quick AI search can't identify when that allegedly was. >>>>>>>>>

    -hh

    Ok, in USA, not world, at least not that I can find a cite for ATM. >>>>>>>
    Its hard for NYC to have ever been safer than Salt Lake City. /s >>>>>>>

    So I am mistaken, however that doesn't change what the democrats >>>>>>>> did to NYC
    to turn it into a cesspool.

    Was that before, during or after Jerry Ford told NYC to "Drop Dead"? >>>>>>> You remember that, don't you?


    You know, the part you snipped.


    https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/giuliani-administration-transforms-new-york-city


    <https://americanmind.org/features/the-rise-and-fall-of-new-york/new-york-a-cautionary-tale/>


    <https://www.nyc.gov/assets/records/pdf/mayoral-collections/rudolph-w-giuliani-records-1994-2001.pdf>



    Rudy certainly did clean things up in his era, but how much came from >>>>>>> better Federal support? Especially after 9/11?

    Plus because the rates today are still at or below what they were back >>>>>>> in the 1990s, when you're trying to place blame on "the democrats", it >>>>>>> means that your 30 year reachback attempt is a full human generation. >>>>>>>

    -hh



    *Large City*

    Currently SLC is the 46th-largest population city in the USA.

    SLC was merely on the "safest cities" list that was posted.


    NYC is #1 although that is likely to be revised down as people and >>>>>> business continue to flee that cesspool.

    Point is, Guiliani's policies cleaned up a city that was a disaster. >>>>>> Bloomberg maintained most if not all of Guilani's policies and
    things remained much the same.

    Enter Marxist DeBlasio and his corrupt wife and NYC went to hell
    in a hand basket.

    And Adams despite his recent "say anything to get elected" campaign is >>>>>> much like DeBlasio.

    Except for how the metrics aren't showing support for your claims:

    <https://www.vitalcitynyc.org/dataviz/all-seven-major-felony-crimes-are-at-lower-rates-than-the-1990s>


    Key word *felony*.
    Have you checked other types of crimes?

    More than you have.


    Have you checked DA policies for routinely downgrading charges far
    more often than
    typical?
    Have you checked perps who were released multiple times due to soft on >>>> crime
    policies only to commit even more crimes?


    More than you have.

    It's a revolving door.

    NYC is a dangerous zoo.

    Terrified suburban attitude...


    BTW since you seem to ride the NYC subways, here are 2 tips for you: >>>>>
    Seems that I'm riding them more frequently than you've been.


    1. When waiting on the platform stand with your back to one of the >>>>>> vertical iron girders supporting the station. And of course never go >>>>>> near
    the edge of the platform until the train arrives and is stopped.

    That's one approach. I have another that's more effective.

    So do I..........
    And I am trained, licensed and not afraid to use it.

    In the subway? Didn't your training teach you about the 7m Rule?

    However my go to method these days is to not use the subway.
    You should follow that advice.I can't even recall the last time that
    I've had any real problem on the
    subway .. that is, other than the signaling problem on the F last week
    I've already mentioned, but that's not "crime". A quick $18 taxi solved >>> the immediate need (appointment not missed), but that's still quite a
    bit more than the subway's $2.90 fare.

    2. Choose either the car the conductor is in or a car that has a decent >>>>>> number of people in it and NEVER choose an end seat near a door nor >>>>>> stand near
    a door. You are a prime target for a grab-and-go attack.

    Of course, not having objects openly available is too. But what do I >>>>> know, having only been a mass transit user since the '70s. /s

    ROTFLMAO!
    I rode the subway every single to and from HS from 73 onward.
    Then every single day to and from college until I transferred.
    And last but not least, every single day to and from work in NYC.

    Actually I started riding the subway when I was about 11 yo.
    We all did. Going into the big city, Manhattan, was a lot of fun.
    Mom and dad of course didn't know, or maybe they did, I dunno.

    So there is literally nothing you can tell me about the subway that
    I don't already know except that I wouldn't go near it these days.

    Nothing... except for what it is currently really like vs beliefs.
    When was the last time you actually rode on it? 5 years ago? 10?

    People getting set on fire?
    Not my idea of a fun day.

    I drive into the city, garage the car or sometimes take the LIRR, and
    then Uber to wherever I am headed to.
    Oh, and these days my son who lives in the city won't even take the
    subway.
    And when was the last time they actually rode on it too?
    For nothing in life is risk-free, including sidewalks.


    -hh

    If only Los Angeles and New York are 'big cities', only a couple of big
    cities in the world.

    Sadly both have become shit holes thanks to democratic leadership.

    A generation ago, yet pothead still can't be relevant to contemporary.

    While I haven't been to LA in about 5 years, I visit NYC at least once
    a month and it's truly a mess.
    Oh, its "at least once a month"? That's the Uber to ... where?
    Try being at NY Penn Station by 9AM tomorrow; its the last day at the
    Met for one of their temporary exhibits.

    Only a fool from N.J. aka the armpit of the USA would defend it.
    Being better informed than an entitled Hampton's biddy just isn't hard.
    And by replying to a reply, pothead is defeating their own killfile.

    Recalling that posted URL list of world's safest cities...

    <https://ceoworld.biz/2025/05/12/ranked-safest-cities-in-the-world-2025/>

    ...how many of the foreign ones has pothead actually been to? To keep
    it relevant, count only those within the past 25 years (post 9/11 era).


    -hh

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to -hh on Sat Aug 2 18:04:53 2025
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    -hh wrote:
    Only a fool from N.J. aka the armpit of the USA would defend it.
    Being better informed than an entitled Hampton's biddy just isn't hard.
    And by replying to a reply, pothead is defeating their own killfile.

    Recalling that posted URL list of world's safest cities...

    <https://ceoworld.biz/2025/05/12/ranked-safest-cities-in-the-world-2025/>

    ...how many of the foreign ones has pothead actually been to? To keep
    it relevant, count only those within the past 25 years (post 9/11 era).


    -hh

    They are accomplished international traveller and aircraft expert. A
    legend in their own mind.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16u6w0cjjrU> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7asO_d_mP7o>

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