• Judge Says Trump Lied About MS-13 Tattoos

    From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 24 22:30:08 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Judges order Abrego Garcia's release in Tennessee, return
    | to Maryland
    |
    | The orders, one from a federal judge in Tennessee and
    | another from a federal judge in Maryland, marked a
    | resounding defeat for the Trump administration.
    | ...
    | Crenshaw wrote that he'd seen no evidence that Abrego "has
    | markings or tattoos showing gang affiliation; has working
    | relationships with known MS-13 members; ever told any of
    | the witnesses that he is [an] MS-13 member; or has ever
    | been affiliated with any sort of gang activity."
    |
    | "Based on the record before it, for the Court to find that
    | Abrego is member of or in affiliation with MS-13," Crenshaw
    | wrote, "it would have to make so many inferences from the
    | Government's proffered evidence in its favor that such
    | conclusion would border on fanciful."
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/07/23/kilmar-abrego-garcia-deportation-case-trump-judges/>

    --bks

    "In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came
    in. They're eating the cats." -- Donald 'Pedo' Trump

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Fri Jul 25 13:21:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:105uq7g$l7b$[email protected]:

    |
    | Judges order Abrego Garcia's release in Tennessee, return
    | to Maryland
    |
    | The orders, one from a federal judge in Tennessee and
    | another from a federal judge in Maryland, marked a
    | resounding defeat for the Trump administration.
    | ...
    | Crenshaw wrote that he'd seen no evidence that Abrego "has
    | markings or tattoos showing gang affiliation; has working
    | relationships with known MS-13 members; ever told any of
    | the witnesses that he is [an] MS-13 member; or has ever
    | been affiliated with any sort of gang activity."
    |
    | "Based on the record before it, for the Court to find that
    | Abrego is member of or in affiliation with MS-13," Crenshaw
    | wrote, "it would have to make so many inferences from the
    | Government's proffered evidence in its favor that such
    | conclusion would border on fanciful."
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/07/23/kilmar-abrego-ga rcia-deportation-case-trump-judges/>

    --bks

    "In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came
    in. They're eating the cats." -- Donald 'Pedo' Trump



    "Congratulations to the Kansas City Chiefs
    on a great game, and a fantastic comeback,
    under immense pressure. You represented
    the Great State of Kansas"
    Donald Trump, February 3, 2020.
    Kansas City is actually in Missouri.

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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Fri Jul 25 07:59:08 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 7/25/2025 6:21 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:105uq7g$l7b$[email protected]:

    |
    | Judges order Abrego Garcia's release in Tennessee, return
    | to Maryland
    |
    | The orders, one from a federal judge in Tennessee and
    | another from a federal judge in Maryland, marked a
    | resounding defeat for the Trump administration.
    | ...
    | Crenshaw wrote that he'd seen no evidence that Abrego "has
    | markings or tattoos showing gang affiliation; has working
    | relationships with known MS-13 members; ever told any of
    | the witnesses that he is [an] MS-13 member; or has ever
    | been affiliated with any sort of gang activity."
    |
    | "Based on the record before it, for the Court to find that
    | Abrego is member of or in affiliation with MS-13," Crenshaw
    | wrote, "it would have to make so many inferences from the
    | Government's proffered evidence in its favor that such
    | conclusion would border on fanciful."
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/07/23/kilmar-abrego-ga
    rcia-deportation-case-trump-judges/>

    --bks

    "In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came
    in. They're eating the cats." -- Donald 'Pedo' Trump



    "Congratulations to the Kansas City Chiefs
    on a great game, and a fantastic comeback,
    under immense pressure. You represented
    the Great State of Kansas"
    Donald Trump, February 3, 2020.
    Kansas City is actually in Missouri.

    There is a Kansas City, KS across the Kansas River right at the confluence with the Missouri River, but the Chiefs play in the much larger Kansas City, MO. If someone says "Kansas City" without specifying which state, it is always presumed
    to be the city in Missouri by default. Trump is an idiot.

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  • From John Carlson@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Fri Jul 25 08:08:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 7/24/2025 7:30 PM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    |
    | Judges order Abrego Garcia's release in Tennessee, return
    | to Maryland
    |
    | The orders, one from a federal judge in Tennessee and
    | another from a federal judge in Maryland, marked a
    | resounding defeat for the Trump administration.
    | ...
    | Crenshaw wrote that he'd seen no evidence that Abrego "has
    | markings or tattoos showing gang affiliation; has working
    | relationships with known MS-13 members; ever told any of
    | the witnesses that he is [an] MS-13 member; or has ever
    | been affiliated with any sort of gang activity."
    |
    | "Based on the record before it, for the Court to find that
    | Abrego is member of or in affiliation with MS-13," Crenshaw
    | wrote, "it would have to make so many inferences from the
    | Government's proffered evidence in its favor that such
    | conclusion would border on fanciful."
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/07/23/kilmar-abrego-garcia-deportation-case-trump-judges/>

    --bks

    "In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came
    in. They're eating the cats." -- Donald 'Pedo' Trump

    *Of course* Trump lied about the photoshopped "tattoos" on Abrego Garcia's hand.
    The Latin letters and Arabic numerals "MS 13" are *not* on his hands, and the tattoos that *are* on his hands do not "translate" to MS-13. The photo Trump showed was clearly fake.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Fri Jul 25 11:19:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 7/25/25 10:59, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 6:21 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
    news:105uq7g$l7b$[email protected]:

    |
    | Judges order Abrego Garcia's release in Tennessee, return
    | to Maryland
    |
    | The orders, one from a federal judge in Tennessee and
    | another from a federal judge in Maryland, marked a
    | resounding defeat for the Trump administration.
    | ...
    | Crenshaw wrote that he'd seen no evidence that Abrego "has
    | markings or tattoos showing gang affiliation; has working
    | relationships with known MS-13 members; ever told any of
    | the witnesses that he is [an] MS-13 member; or has ever
    | been affiliated with any sort of gang activity."
    |
    | "Based on the record before it, for the Court to find that
    | Abrego is member of or in affiliation with MS-13," Crenshaw
    | wrote, "it would have to make so many inferences from the
    | Government's proffered evidence in its favor that such
    | conclusion would border on fanciful."
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/07/23/kilmar-abrego-ga
    rcia-deportation-case-trump-judges/>

         --bks

    "In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came
      in. They're eating the cats." -- Donald 'Pedo' Trump



    "Congratulations to the Kansas City Chiefs
    on a great game, and a fantastic comeback,
    under immense pressure. You represented
    the Great State of Kansas"
    Donald Trump, February 3, 2020.
    Kansas City is actually in Missouri.

    There is a Kansas City, KS across the Kansas River right at the
    confluence with the Missouri River, but the Chiefs play in the much
    larger Kansas City, MO. If someone says "Kansas City" without specifying which state, it is always presumed to be the city in Missouri by
    default. Trump is an idiot.

    Ditto Kansas City International Airport: MCI is located in Missouri too.

    -hh

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