https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14868635/Jaguar-woke-rebrand-stunned-fans-crashes-sales.html
aguar's sales have plummeted after the legendary British car
marque's 'woke' rebrand left fans outraged.
Sales of the luxury motoring manufacturer appear to be in
freefall following its controversial move to scrap its
iconic 'growler' big cat logo in November.
The firm's rebrand saw it replace the well-known badge in
favour of a geometric 'J' design - which lovers of the
brand raged looked like the logo on a handbag clasp.
Meanwhile, a glossy ad campaign accompanying the design
overhaul, featuring androgynous-looking men and women
in exuberant clothes, also came under fire.
And as the firestorm surrounding the famed car maker's
change continues to rage, sales at Jaguar Europe have
plunged a staggering 97.5 per cent.
. . .
Shaguire became FAGguire ... and NOBODY WANTS IT.
How incredibly tragic for the brand !
Anyone with investments in the company should SUE.
Woke=BROKE folks ... that's the truth of the matter.
Fake-Blame what you want - this is how it is.
At present I could buy ... but NEVER EVER will.
Gimme a big American macho super-truck or similar
instead. A V-10 Hemi and cowboy ads would be nice.
On 2025-07-03, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14868635/Jaguar-woke-rebrand-
stunned-fans-crashes-sales.html
aguar's sales have plummeted after the legendary British car
marque's 'woke' rebrand left fans outraged.
Sales of the luxury motoring manufacturer appear to be in
freefall following its controversial move to scrap its
iconic 'growler' big cat logo in November.
The firm's rebrand saw it replace the well-known badge in
favour of a geometric 'J' design - which lovers of the
brand raged looked like the logo on a handbag clasp.
Meanwhile, a glossy ad campaign accompanying the design
overhaul, featuring androgynous-looking men and women
in exuberant clothes, also came under fire.
And as the firestorm surrounding the famed car maker's
change continues to rage, sales at Jaguar Europe have
plunged a staggering 97.5 per cent.
. . .
Shaguire became FAGguire ... and NOBODY WANTS IT.
How incredibly tragic for the brand !
Anyone with investments in the company should SUE.
Woke=BROKE folks ... that's the truth of the matter.
Fake-Blame what you want - this is how it is.
At present I could buy ... but NEVER EVER will.
Gimme a big American macho super-truck or similar
instead. A V-10 Hemi and cowboy ads would be nice.
Jaguar has become a "boutique car" at least here in the US.
Like Range Rover, it's mostly a status symbol because it
is highly unreliable, overly complex to repair and other
than an ultra luxurious interior it does nothing well considering
the cost.
Since Jaguar decided to go woke with she men people are no
longer considering it to be a status symbol and are moving
on to other imports like BMW and Mercedes.
Basically, the Budlight effect.
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1048m5c$rbde$[email protected]:
On 2025-07-03, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14868635/Jaguar-woke-rebrand-
stunned-fans-crashes-sales.html
aguar's sales have plummeted after the legendary British car
marque's 'woke' rebrand left fans outraged.
Sales of the luxury motoring manufacturer appear to be in
freefall following its controversial move to scrap its
iconic 'growler' big cat logo in November.
The firm's rebrand saw it replace the well-known badge in
favour of a geometric 'J' design - which lovers of the
brand raged looked like the logo on a handbag clasp.
Meanwhile, a glossy ad campaign accompanying the design
overhaul, featuring androgynous-looking men and women
in exuberant clothes, also came under fire.
And as the firestorm surrounding the famed car maker's
change continues to rage, sales at Jaguar Europe have
plunged a staggering 97.5 per cent.
. . .
Shaguire became FAGguire ... and NOBODY WANTS IT.
How incredibly tragic for the brand !
Anyone with investments in the company should SUE.
Woke=BROKE folks ... that's the truth of the matter.
Fake-Blame what you want - this is how it is.
At present I could buy ... but NEVER EVER will.
Gimme a big American macho super-truck or similar
instead. A V-10 Hemi and cowboy ads would be nice.
Jaguar has become a "boutique car" at least here in the US.
Like Range Rover, it's mostly a status symbol because it
is highly unreliable, overly complex to repair and other
than an ultra luxurious interior it does nothing well considering
the cost.
Since Jaguar decided to go woke with she men people are no
longer considering it to be a status symbol and are moving
on to other imports like BMW and Mercedes.
Basically, the Budlight effect.
Have you bought your Tesla yet?
Trump recommends it, in fact he even
starred in a Tesla commercial.
On 2025-07-04, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1048m5c$rbde$[email protected]:
On 2025-07-03, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14868635/Jaguar-woke-rebran
d- stunned-fans-crashes-sales.html
aguar's sales have plummeted after the legendary British car
marque's 'woke' rebrand left fans outraged.
Sales of the luxury motoring manufacturer appear to be in
freefall following its controversial move to scrap its
iconic 'growler' big cat logo in November.
The firm's rebrand saw it replace the well-known badge in
favour of a geometric 'J' design - which lovers of the
brand raged looked like the logo on a handbag clasp.
Meanwhile, a glossy ad campaign accompanying the design
overhaul, featuring androgynous-looking men and women
in exuberant clothes, also came under fire.
And as the firestorm surrounding the famed car maker's
change continues to rage, sales at Jaguar Europe have
plunged a staggering 97.5 per cent.
. . .
Shaguire became FAGguire ... and NOBODY WANTS IT.
How incredibly tragic for the brand !
Anyone with investments in the company should SUE.
Woke=BROKE folks ... that's the truth of the matter.
Fake-Blame what you want - this is how it is.
At present I could buy ... but NEVER EVER will.
Gimme a big American macho super-truck or similar
instead. A V-10 Hemi and cowboy ads would be nice.
Jaguar has become a "boutique car" at least here in the US.
Like Range Rover, it's mostly a status symbol because it
is highly unreliable, overly complex to repair and other
than an ultra luxurious interior it does nothing well considering
the cost.
Since Jaguar decided to go woke with she men people are no
longer considering it to be a status symbol and are moving
on to other imports like BMW and Mercedes.
Basically, the Budlight effect.
Have you bought your Tesla yet?
Trump recommends it, in fact he even
starred in a Tesla commercial.
I don't care if Nikola Tesla himself came back from the grave and
recommended it, I have no need for a rolling sewing machine.
HOWEVER, if I were to lose my mind and buy an EV, it would either be
a Tesla S or a Lucid Grand Touring.
Still, I prefer my 24 Mustang GT with a Whipple Stage 1 supercharger.
It's a real driver's car instead of a silent, sewing machine on
wheels. I prefer the roar of a good old American muscle. You sewing
machine drivers will never understand.
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1049i6c$11jm6$[email protected]:
<brevsnip>
Still, I prefer my 24 Mustang GT with a Whipple Stage 1 supercharger.
It's a real driver's car instead of a silent, sewing machine on
wheels. I prefer the roar of a good old American muscle. You sewing
machine drivers will never understand.
True, us EV owners will never experiece the joy of getting your
catalytic converter stolen or getting robbed at a gas station or
depending on the pricing whims of Big Oil.
Gas station attempted robbery, shooting
June 11, 2025
https://www.fox26houston.com/video/1656370
Deputies search for gas station robbers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy531tluawg
On 2025-07-04, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1048m5c$rbde$[email protected]:
On 2025-07-03, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14868635/Jaguar-woke-rebrand- >>>> stunned-fans-crashes-sales.html
aguar's sales have plummeted after the legendary British car
marque's 'woke' rebrand left fans outraged.
Sales of the luxury motoring manufacturer appear to be in
freefall following its controversial move to scrap its
iconic 'growler' big cat logo in November.
The firm's rebrand saw it replace the well-known badge in
favour of a geometric 'J' design - which lovers of the
brand raged looked like the logo on a handbag clasp.
Meanwhile, a glossy ad campaign accompanying the design
overhaul, featuring androgynous-looking men and women
in exuberant clothes, also came under fire.
And as the firestorm surrounding the famed car maker's
change continues to rage, sales at Jaguar Europe have
plunged a staggering 97.5 per cent.
. . .
Shaguire became FAGguire ... and NOBODY WANTS IT.
How incredibly tragic for the brand !
Anyone with investments in the company should SUE.
Woke=BROKE folks ... that's the truth of the matter.
Fake-Blame what you want - this is how it is.
At present I could buy ... but NEVER EVER will.
Gimme a big American macho super-truck or similar
instead. A V-10 Hemi and cowboy ads would be nice.
Jaguar has become a "boutique car" at least here in the US.
Like Range Rover, it's mostly a status symbol because it
is highly unreliable, overly complex to repair and other
than an ultra luxurious interior it does nothing well considering
the cost.
Since Jaguar decided to go woke with she men people are no
longer considering it to be a status symbol and are moving
on to other imports like BMW and Mercedes.
Basically, the Budlight effect.
Have you bought your Tesla yet?
Trump recommends it, in fact he even
starred in a Tesla commercial.
I don't care if Nikola Tesla himself came back from the grave and
recommended it, I have no need for a rolling sewing machine.
HOWEVER, if I were to lose my mind and buy an EV, it would either be
a Tesla S or a Lucid Grand Touring.
Still, I prefer my 24 Mustang GT with a Whipple Stage 1 supercharger.
It's a real driver's car instead of a silent, sewing machine on wheels.
I prefer the roar of a good old American muscle. You sewing machine drivers >will never understand.
On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 21:47:56 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-04, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1048m5c$rbde$[email protected]:
On 2025-07-03, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14868635/Jaguar-woke-rebrand- >>>>> stunned-fans-crashes-sales.html
aguar's sales have plummeted after the legendary British car
marque's 'woke' rebrand left fans outraged.
Sales of the luxury motoring manufacturer appear to be in
freefall following its controversial move to scrap its
iconic 'growler' big cat logo in November.
The firm's rebrand saw it replace the well-known badge in
favour of a geometric 'J' design - which lovers of the
brand raged looked like the logo on a handbag clasp.
Meanwhile, a glossy ad campaign accompanying the design
overhaul, featuring androgynous-looking men and women
in exuberant clothes, also came under fire.
And as the firestorm surrounding the famed car maker's
change continues to rage, sales at Jaguar Europe have
plunged a staggering 97.5 per cent.
. . .
Shaguire became FAGguire ... and NOBODY WANTS IT.
How incredibly tragic for the brand !
Anyone with investments in the company should SUE.
Woke=BROKE folks ... that's the truth of the matter.
Fake-Blame what you want - this is how it is.
At present I could buy ... but NEVER EVER will.
Gimme a big American macho super-truck or similar
instead. A V-10 Hemi and cowboy ads would be nice.
Jaguar has become a "boutique car" at least here in the US.
Like Range Rover, it's mostly a status symbol because it
is highly unreliable, overly complex to repair and other
than an ultra luxurious interior it does nothing well considering
the cost.
Since Jaguar decided to go woke with she men people are no
longer considering it to be a status symbol and are moving
on to other imports like BMW and Mercedes.
Basically, the Budlight effect.
Have you bought your Tesla yet?
Trump recommends it, in fact he even
starred in a Tesla commercial.
I don't care if Nikola Tesla himself came back from the grave and >>recommended it, I have no need for a rolling sewing machine.
HOWEVER, if I were to lose my mind and buy an EV, it would either be
a Tesla S or a Lucid Grand Touring.
Still, I prefer my 24 Mustang GT with a Whipple Stage 1 supercharger.
It's a real driver's car instead of a silent, sewing machine on wheels.
I prefer the roar of a good old American muscle. You sewing machine drivers >>will never understand.
That's the beautiful thing about our country. You can still make
choices about what you want.
On 2025-07-05, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 21:47:56 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-04, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1048m5c$rbde$[email protected]:
On 2025-07-03, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14868635/Jaguar-woke-rebr >>>>>> and- stunned-fans-crashes-sales.html
aguar's sales have plummeted after the legendary British car
marque's 'woke' rebrand left fans outraged.
Sales of the luxury motoring manufacturer appear to be in
freefall following its controversial move to scrap its
iconic 'growler' big cat logo in November.
The firm's rebrand saw it replace the well-known badge in
favour of a geometric 'J' design - which lovers of the
brand raged looked like the logo on a handbag clasp.
Meanwhile, a glossy ad campaign accompanying the design
overhaul, featuring androgynous-looking men and women
in exuberant clothes, also came under fire.
And as the firestorm surrounding the famed car maker's
change continues to rage, sales at Jaguar Europe have
plunged a staggering 97.5 per cent.
. . .
Shaguire became FAGguire ... and NOBODY WANTS IT.
How incredibly tragic for the brand !
Anyone with investments in the company should SUE.
Woke=BROKE folks ... that's the truth of the matter.
Fake-Blame what you want - this is how it is.
At present I could buy ... but NEVER EVER will.
Gimme a big American macho super-truck or similar
instead. A V-10 Hemi and cowboy ads would be nice.
Jaguar has become a "boutique car" at least here in the US.
Like Range Rover, it's mostly a status symbol because it
is highly unreliable, overly complex to repair and other
than an ultra luxurious interior it does nothing well considering
the cost.
Since Jaguar decided to go woke with she men people are no
longer considering it to be a status symbol and are moving
on to other imports like BMW and Mercedes.
Basically, the Budlight effect.
Have you bought your Tesla yet?
Trump recommends it, in fact he even
starred in a Tesla commercial.
I don't care if Nikola Tesla himself came back from the grave and >>>recommended it, I have no need for a rolling sewing machine.
HOWEVER, if I were to lose my mind and buy an EV, it would either be
a Tesla S or a Lucid Grand Touring.
Still, I prefer my 24 Mustang GT with a Whipple Stage 1 supercharger. >>>It's a real driver's car instead of a silent, sewing machine on
wheels. I prefer the roar of a good old American muscle. You sewing >>>machine drivers will never understand.
That's the beautiful thing about our country. You can still make
choices about what you want.
Exactly !
And that's the concept that sails right over the libby's heads.
I don't dislike EV cars at all. To each her own but they are just not
for me.
What I do dislike is the government effectively forcing me into buying
one as they push the green new scam on people.
On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 21:47:56 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-04, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1048m5c$rbde$[email protected]:
On 2025-07-03, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14868635/Jaguar-woke-rebrand- >>>>> stunned-fans-crashes-sales.html
aguar's sales have plummeted after the legendary British car
marque's 'woke' rebrand left fans outraged.
Sales of the luxury motoring manufacturer appear to be in
freefall following its controversial move to scrap its
iconic 'growler' big cat logo in November.
The firm's rebrand saw it replace the well-known badge in
favour of a geometric 'J' design - which lovers of the
brand raged looked like the logo on a handbag clasp.
Meanwhile, a glossy ad campaign accompanying the design
overhaul, featuring androgynous-looking men and women
in exuberant clothes, also came under fire.
And as the firestorm surrounding the famed car maker's
change continues to rage, sales at Jaguar Europe have
plunged a staggering 97.5 per cent.
. . .
Shaguire became FAGguire ... and NOBODY WANTS IT.
How incredibly tragic for the brand !
Anyone with investments in the company should SUE.
Woke=BROKE folks ... that's the truth of the matter.
Fake-Blame what you want - this is how it is.
At present I could buy ... but NEVER EVER will.
Gimme a big American macho super-truck or similar
instead. A V-10 Hemi and cowboy ads would be nice.
Jaguar has become a "boutique car" at least here in the US.
Like Range Rover, it's mostly a status symbol because it
is highly unreliable, overly complex to repair and other
than an ultra luxurious interior it does nothing well considering
the cost.
Since Jaguar decided to go woke with she men people are no
longer considering it to be a status symbol and are moving
on to other imports like BMW and Mercedes.
Basically, the Budlight effect.
Have you bought your Tesla yet?
Trump recommends it, in fact he even
starred in a Tesla commercial.
I don't care if Nikola Tesla himself came back from the grave and
recommended it, I have no need for a rolling sewing machine.
HOWEVER, if I were to lose my mind and buy an EV, it would either be
a Tesla S or a Lucid Grand Touring.
Still, I prefer my 24 Mustang GT with a Whipple Stage 1 supercharger.
It's a real driver's car instead of a silent, sewing machine on wheels.
I prefer the roar of a good old American muscle. You sewing machine drivers >> will never understand.
That's the beautiful thing about our country. You can still make
choices about what you want.
On 2025-07-04, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
Have you bought your Tesla yet?
Trump recommends it, in fact he even
starred in a Tesla commercial.
I don't care if Nikola Tesla himself came back from the grave and
recommended it, I have no need for a rolling sewing machine.
HOWEVER, if I were to lose my mind and buy an EV, it would either be
a Tesla S or a Lucid Grand Touring.
Still, I prefer my 24 Mustang GT with a Whipple Stage 1 supercharger.
On 7/5/2025 7:03 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 21:47:56 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-04, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1048m5c$rbde$[email protected]:
On 2025-07-03, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14868635/Jaguar-woke-rebrand- >>>>>> stunned-fans-crashes-sales.html
aguar's sales have plummeted after the legendary British car
marque's 'woke' rebrand left fans outraged.
Sales of the luxury motoring manufacturer appear to be in
freefall following its controversial move to scrap its
iconic 'growler' big cat logo in November.
The firm's rebrand saw it replace the well-known badge in
favour of a geometric 'J' design - which lovers of the
brand raged looked like the logo on a handbag clasp.
Meanwhile, a glossy ad campaign accompanying the design
overhaul, featuring androgynous-looking men and women
in exuberant clothes, also came under fire.
And as the firestorm surrounding the famed car maker's
change continues to rage, sales at Jaguar Europe have
plunged a staggering 97.5 per cent.
. . .
Shaguire became FAGguire ... and NOBODY WANTS IT.
How incredibly tragic for the brand !
Anyone with investments in the company should SUE.
Woke=BROKE folks ... that's the truth of the matter.
Fake-Blame what you want - this is how it is.
At present I could buy ... but NEVER EVER will.
Gimme a big American macho super-truck or similar
instead. A V-10 Hemi and cowboy ads would be nice.
Jaguar has become a "boutique car" at least here in the US.
Like Range Rover, it's mostly a status symbol because it
is highly unreliable, overly complex to repair and other
than an ultra luxurious interior it does nothing well considering
the cost.
Since Jaguar decided to go woke with she men people are no
longer considering it to be a status symbol and are moving
on to other imports like BMW and Mercedes.
Basically, the Budlight effect.
Have you bought your Tesla yet?
Trump recommends it, in fact he even
starred in a Tesla commercial.
I don't care if Nikola Tesla himself came back from the grave and
recommended it, I have no need for a rolling sewing machine.
HOWEVER, if I were to lose my mind and buy an EV, it would either be
a Tesla S or a Lucid Grand Touring.
Still, I prefer my 24 Mustang GT with a Whipple Stage 1 supercharger.
It's a real driver's car instead of a silent, sewing machine on wheels.
I prefer the roar of a good old American muscle. You sewing machine drivers >>> will never understand.
That's the beautiful thing about our country. You can still make
choices about what you want.
True. But those whiners aren't concerned with facts.
Regarding the Mustang GT: The Ford Mustang Mach-E GT, an all-electric
SUV, boasts a horsepower rating comparable to the gas-powered Mustang
GT, with both offering around 480 horsepower. However, the Mach-E GT
delivers significantly more torque, particularly instant torque, which contributes to its quicker acceleration from 0 to 60 mph.
While the
Mustang GT might have a slight edge in top speed and performance at
higher speeds, the Mach-E GT excels in initial acceleration and responsiveness.
So the "sewing machine" cars they whine about are in fact muscle cars
that in the long run will be far cheaper to build, operate, and maintain.
And slowing the introduction of cheaper, cleaner tech in the US has one primary result--it will make it easier for China to eat our lunch as
they produce faster, cheaper cars and open up worldwide markets before
us. I'd rather we made America the best.
On 2025-07-05, John Doe <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/5/2025 7:03 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 21:47:56 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-04, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1048m5c$rbde$[email protected]:
On 2025-07-03, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14868635/Jaguar-woke-rebrand- >>>>>>> stunned-fans-crashes-sales.html
aguar's sales have plummeted after the legendary British car
marque's 'woke' rebrand left fans outraged.
Sales of the luxury motoring manufacturer appear to be in
freefall following its controversial move to scrap its
iconic 'growler' big cat logo in November.
The firm's rebrand saw it replace the well-known badge in
favour of a geometric 'J' design - which lovers of the
brand raged looked like the logo on a handbag clasp.
Meanwhile, a glossy ad campaign accompanying the design
overhaul, featuring androgynous-looking men and women
in exuberant clothes, also came under fire.
And as the firestorm surrounding the famed car maker's
change continues to rage, sales at Jaguar Europe have
plunged a staggering 97.5 per cent.
. . .
Shaguire became FAGguire ... and NOBODY WANTS IT.
How incredibly tragic for the brand !
Anyone with investments in the company should SUE.
Woke=BROKE folks ... that's the truth of the matter.
Fake-Blame what you want - this is how it is.
At present I could buy ... but NEVER EVER will.
Gimme a big American macho super-truck or similar
instead. A V-10 Hemi and cowboy ads would be nice.
Jaguar has become a "boutique car" at least here in the US.
Like Range Rover, it's mostly a status symbol because it
is highly unreliable, overly complex to repair and other
than an ultra luxurious interior it does nothing well considering
the cost.
Since Jaguar decided to go woke with she men people are no
longer considering it to be a status symbol and are moving
on to other imports like BMW and Mercedes.
Basically, the Budlight effect.
Have you bought your Tesla yet?
Trump recommends it, in fact he even
starred in a Tesla commercial.
I don't care if Nikola Tesla himself came back from the grave and
recommended it, I have no need for a rolling sewing machine.
HOWEVER, if I were to lose my mind and buy an EV, it would either be
a Tesla S or a Lucid Grand Touring.
Still, I prefer my 24 Mustang GT with a Whipple Stage 1 supercharger.
It's a real driver's car instead of a silent, sewing machine on wheels. >>>> I prefer the roar of a good old American muscle. You sewing machine drivers
will never understand.
That's the beautiful thing about our country. You can still make
choices about what you want.
True. But those whiners aren't concerned with facts.
Not whining at all.
Stating facts.
Regarding the Mustang GT: The Ford Mustang Mach-E GT, an all-electric
SUV, boasts a horsepower rating comparable to the gas-powered Mustang
GT, with both offering around 480 horsepower. However, the Mach-E GT
delivers significantly more torque, particularly instant torque, which
contributes to its quicker acceleration from 0 to 60 mph.
Many EV can do that.
But where's the fun?
The sound, the vibration, etc.
Besides my GT has a Whipple on it.
A completely different game altogether albeit an extra $10k.
While the
Mustang GT might have a slight edge in top speed and performance at
higher speeds, the Mach-E GT excels in initial acceleration and
responsiveness.
So the "sewing machine" cars they whine about are in fact muscle cars
that in the long run will be far cheaper to build, operate, and maintain.
In the future maybe.
Currently?
Nope.
Even with normal DD they wear tires like crazy.
Cost a fortune to repair even minor damage and finding a qualified body shop or
dealer to repair it is difficult.
Insurance is also high and BTW if you happen to be renewing your home owner's insurance one of the first questions you will be asked is if you own an EV and
park it in an attached garage or near one.
And slowing the introduction of cheaper, cleaner tech in the US has one
primary result--it will make it easier for China to eat our lunch as
they produce faster, cheaper cars and open up worldwide markets before
us. I'd rather we made America the best.
Same.
No matter the product be it car, TV etc.
All those Trump businesses that went bankrupt were because he's a demented Homosexual Pedophile who wears a wig, makeup, a buttplug and a diaper.
He's made us a laughing stock.
pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-05, John Doe <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/5/2025 7:03 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 21:47:56 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-04, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1048m5c$rbde$[email protected]:
On 2025-07-03, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14868635/Jaguar-woke-rebrand- >>>>>>>>
stunned-fans-crashes-sales.html
aguar's sales have plummeted after the legendary British car
marque's 'woke' rebrand left fans outraged.
Sales of the luxury motoring manufacturer appear to be in
freefall following its controversial move to scrap its
iconic 'growler' big cat logo in November.
The firm's rebrand saw it replace the well-known badge in
favour of a geometric 'J' design - which lovers of the
brand raged looked like the logo on a handbag clasp.
Meanwhile, a glossy ad campaign accompanying the design
overhaul, featuring androgynous-looking men and women
in exuberant clothes, also came under fire.
And as the firestorm surrounding the famed car maker's
change continues to rage, sales at Jaguar Europe have
plunged a staggering 97.5 per cent.
. . .
Shaguire became FAGguire ... and NOBODY WANTS IT.
How incredibly tragic for the brand !
Anyone with investments in the company should SUE.
Woke=BROKE folks ... that's the truth of the matter.
Fake-Blame what you want - this is how it is.
At present I could buy ... but NEVER EVER will.
Gimme a big American macho super-truck or similar
instead. A V-10 Hemi and cowboy ads would be nice.
Jaguar has become a "boutique car" at least here in the US.
Like Range Rover, it's mostly a status symbol because it
is highly unreliable, overly complex to repair and other
than an ultra luxurious interior it does nothing well considering >>>>>>> the cost.
Since Jaguar decided to go woke with she men people are no
longer considering it to be a status symbol and are moving
on to other imports like BMW and Mercedes.
Basically, the Budlight effect.
Have you bought your Tesla yet?
Trump recommends it, in fact he even
starred in a Tesla commercial.
I don't care if Nikola Tesla himself came back from the grave and
recommended it, I have no need for a rolling sewing machine.
HOWEVER, if I were to lose my mind and buy an EV, it would either be >>>>> a Tesla S or a Lucid Grand Touring.
Still, I prefer my 24 Mustang GT with a Whipple Stage 1 supercharger. >>>>> It's a real driver's car instead of a silent, sewing machine on
wheels.
I prefer the roar of a good old American muscle. You sewing machine
drivers
will never understand.
That's the beautiful thing about our country. You can still make
choices about what you want.
True. But those whiners aren't concerned with facts.
Not whining at all.
Stating facts.
Regarding the Mustang GT: The Ford Mustang Mach-E GT, an all-electric
SUV, boasts a horsepower rating comparable to the gas-powered Mustang
GT, with both offering around 480 horsepower. However, the Mach-E GT
delivers significantly more torque, particularly instant torque, which
contributes to its quicker acceleration from 0 to 60 mph.
Many EV can do that.
But where's the fun?
The sound, the vibration, etc.
Besides my GT has a Whipple on it.
A completely different game altogether albeit an extra $10k.
While the
Mustang GT might have a slight edge in top speed and performance at
higher speeds, the Mach-E GT excels in initial acceleration and
responsiveness.
So the "sewing machine" cars they whine about are in fact muscle cars
that in the long run will be far cheaper to build, operate, and
maintain.
In the future maybe.
Currently?
Nope.
Even with normal DD they wear tires like crazy.
Cost a fortune to repair even minor damage and finding a qualified
body shop or
dealer to repair it is difficult.
Insurance is also high and BTW if you happen to be renewing your home
owner's
insurance one of the first questions you will be asked is if you own
an EV and
park it in an attached garage or near one.
And slowing the introduction of cheaper, cleaner tech in the US has one
primary result--it will make it easier for China to eat our lunch as
they produce faster, cheaper cars and open up worldwide markets before
us. I'd rather we made America the best.
Same.
No matter the product be it car, TV etc.
On 7/5/25 6:31 PM, % wrote:
pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-05, John Doe <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/5/2025 7:03 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 21:47:56 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-04, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1048m5c$rbde$[email protected]:
On 2025-07-03, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14868635/Jaguar-woke-rebrand-
stunned-fans-crashes-sales.html
aguar's sales have plummeted after the legendary British car >>>>>>>>> marque's 'woke' rebrand left fans outraged.
Sales of the luxury motoring manufacturer appear to be in
freefall following its controversial move to scrap its
iconic 'growler' big cat logo in November.
The firm's rebrand saw it replace the well-known badge in
favour of a geometric 'J' design - which lovers of the
brand raged looked like the logo on a handbag clasp.
Meanwhile, a glossy ad campaign accompanying the design
overhaul, featuring androgynous-looking men and women
in exuberant clothes, also came under fire.
And as the firestorm surrounding the famed car maker's
change continues to rage, sales at Jaguar Europe have
plunged a staggering 97.5 per cent.
. . .
Shaguire became FAGguire ... and NOBODY WANTS IT.
How incredibly tragic for the brand !
Anyone with investments in the company should SUE.
Woke=BROKE folks ... that's the truth of the matter. >>>>>>>>> Fake-Blame what you want - this is how it is.
At present I could buy ... but NEVER EVER will.
Gimme a big American macho super-truck or similar
instead. A V-10 Hemi and cowboy ads would be nice.
Jaguar has become a "boutique car" at least here in the US.
Like Range Rover, it's mostly a status symbol because it
is highly unreliable, overly complex to repair and other
than an ultra luxurious interior it does nothing well considering >>>>>>>> the cost.
Since Jaguar decided to go woke with she men people are no
longer considering it to be a status symbol and are moving
on to other imports like BMW and Mercedes.
Basically, the Budlight effect.
Have you bought your Tesla yet?
Trump recommends it, in fact he even
starred in a Tesla commercial.
I don't care if Nikola Tesla himself came back from the grave and
recommended it, I have no need for a rolling sewing machine.
HOWEVER, if I were to lose my mind and buy an EV, it would either be >>>>>> a Tesla S or a Lucid Grand Touring.
Still, I prefer my 24 Mustang GT with a Whipple Stage 1 supercharger. >>>>>> It's a real driver's car instead of a silent, sewing machine on
wheels.
I prefer the roar of a good old American muscle. You sewing machine >>>>>> drivers
will never understand.
That's the beautiful thing about our country. You can still make
choices about what you want.
True. But those whiners aren't concerned with facts.
Not whining at all.
Stating facts.
Regarding the Mustang GT: The Ford Mustang Mach-E GT, an all-electric
SUV, boasts a horsepower rating comparable to the gas-powered Mustang
GT, with both offering around 480 horsepower. However, the Mach-E GT
delivers significantly more torque, particularly instant torque, which >>>> contributes to its quicker acceleration from 0 to 60 mph.
Many EV can do that.
But where's the fun?
The sound, the vibration, etc.
Besides my GT has a Whipple on it.
A completely different game altogether albeit an extra $10k.
While the
Mustang GT might have a slight edge in top speed and performance at
higher speeds, the Mach-E GT excels in initial acceleration and
responsiveness.
So the "sewing machine" cars they whine about are in fact muscle cars
that in the long run will be far cheaper to build, operate, and
maintain.
In the future maybe.
Currently?
Nope.
Even with normal DD they wear tires like crazy.
Cost a fortune to repair even minor damage and finding a qualified
body shop or
dealer to repair it is difficult.
Insurance is also high and BTW if you happen to be renewing your home
owner's
insurance one of the first questions you will be asked is if you own
an EV and
park it in an attached garage or near one.
And slowing the introduction of cheaper, cleaner tech in the US has one >>>> primary result--it will make it easier for China to eat our lunch as
they produce faster, cheaper cars and open up worldwide markets before >>>> us. I'd rather we made America the best.
Same.
No matter the product be it car, TV etc.
Ummm ... was there a reply here ? Can't find it.
"Choice" is IMPORTANT to the whole 'free country' concept.
Some will make good and informed choices, others bad choices,
others will pick one side or another just by sheer accident.
EVs have "promise" - but NOT TODAY. It's the damned batteries
mostly. SOME new kinds of batteries are being developed, but
they're not industrial scale and affordable yet. Five or ten
years maybe.
Recently saw a whole Tesla "charging park" installed near
a local shopping mall - about 20 charge stations. Thing
is, it's the ONLY one I've seen anywhere around. This is
the OTHER indirect prob with the batteries - where to
charge them. It's a LOT of energy really. 15 amps from
your home socket AIN'T gonna cut it.
Try :
https://rvelectricity.substack.com/p/how-many-kwh-of-energy-are-in-a-gallon
Gasoline has a LOT of energy.
Note that all gasoline cars do NOT have to be
V-10 hemi's attached to huge trucks. Relatively
low-performance minis will get it done just
fine for 95% of the pop. However they DO need
to get from Miami to NYC without a bunch of
three-hour recharge stops.
In any case, BOTH fuel methods are (or will be)
viable. Ignore AlGore - he's selling you something.
On 7/5/25 1:10 PM, Colin wrote:
All those Trump businesses that went bankrupt were because he's a demented >> Homosexual Pedophile who wears a wig, makeup, a buttplug and a diaper.
He's made us a laughing stock.
I do hope that somewhere in the BBB is a grant
for free local TDS clinics .........
On 7/4/2025 2:47 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-04, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
Have you bought your Tesla yet?
Trump recommends it, in fact he even
starred in a Tesla commercial.
I don't care if Nikola Tesla himself came back from the grave and
recommended it, I have no need for a rolling sewing machine.
HOWEVER, if I were to lose my mind and buy an EV, it would either be
a Tesla S or a Lucid Grand Touring.
Still, I prefer my 24 Mustang GT with a Whipple Stage 1 supercharger.
"pothole" doesn't have that car, but the fact he knows about it and is >aspirational for it is more proof that "pothole" is male, albeit not the least >bit masculine. No female is going to swoon over such a car.
On 7/5/25 1:10 PM, Colin wrote:
All those Trump businesses that went bankrupt were because he's a demented >> Homosexual Pedophile who wears a wig, makeup, a buttplug and a diaper.
He's made us a laughing stock.
I do hope that somewhere in the BBB is a grant
for free local TDS clinics
On 7/5/2025 10:45 PM, c186282 wrote:
On 7/5/25 1:10 PM, Colin wrote:
All those Trump businesses that went bankrupt were because he's a
demented Homosexual Pedophile who wears a wig, makeup, a buttplug and
a diaper.
He's made us a laughing stock.
I do hope that somewhere in the BBB is a grant
for free local TDS clinics
"TDS" doesn't mean what you claim (lie) it means. It is the mental
illness that afflicts Trumpswabs, not Trump opponents. It is the
derangement experienced by Trumpswabs in order not to see, or to ignore,
all the vile and criminal things about Trump. That is what it is.
On 2025-07-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/5/25 6:31 PM, % wrote:
pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-05, John Doe <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/5/2025 7:03 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 21:47:56 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-04, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1048m5c$rbde$[email protected]:
On 2025-07-03, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14868635/Jaguar-woke-rebrand-Jaguar has become a "boutique car" at least here in the US.
stunned-fans-crashes-sales.html
aguar's sales have plummeted after the legendary British car >>>>>>>>>> marque's 'woke' rebrand left fans outraged.
Sales of the luxury motoring manufacturer appear to be in
freefall following its controversial move to scrap its
iconic 'growler' big cat logo in November.
The firm's rebrand saw it replace the well-known badge in
favour of a geometric 'J' design - which lovers of the
brand raged looked like the logo on a handbag clasp.
Meanwhile, a glossy ad campaign accompanying the design
overhaul, featuring androgynous-looking men and women
in exuberant clothes, also came under fire.
And as the firestorm surrounding the famed car maker's
change continues to rage, sales at Jaguar Europe have
plunged a staggering 97.5 per cent.
. . .
Shaguire became FAGguire ... and NOBODY WANTS IT. >>>>>>>>>> How incredibly tragic for the brand !
Anyone with investments in the company should SUE. >>>>>>>>>>
Woke=BROKE folks ... that's the truth of the matter. >>>>>>>>>> Fake-Blame what you want - this is how it is.
At present I could buy ... but NEVER EVER will.
Gimme a big American macho super-truck or similar >>>>>>>>>> instead. A V-10 Hemi and cowboy ads would be nice. >>>>>>>>>
Like Range Rover, it's mostly a status symbol because it
is highly unreliable, overly complex to repair and other
than an ultra luxurious interior it does nothing well considering >>>>>>>>> the cost.
Since Jaguar decided to go woke with she men people are no
longer considering it to be a status symbol and are moving
on to other imports like BMW and Mercedes.
Basically, the Budlight effect.
Have you bought your Tesla yet?
Trump recommends it, in fact he even
starred in a Tesla commercial.
I don't care if Nikola Tesla himself came back from the grave and >>>>>>> recommended it, I have no need for a rolling sewing machine.
HOWEVER, if I were to lose my mind and buy an EV, it would either be >>>>>>> a Tesla S or a Lucid Grand Touring.
Still, I prefer my 24 Mustang GT with a Whipple Stage 1 supercharger. >>>>>>> It's a real driver's car instead of a silent, sewing machine on
wheels.
I prefer the roar of a good old American muscle. You sewing machine >>>>>>> drivers
will never understand.
That's the beautiful thing about our country. You can still make >>>>>> choices about what you want.
True. But those whiners aren't concerned with facts.
Not whining at all.
Stating facts.
Regarding the Mustang GT: The Ford Mustang Mach-E GT, an all-electric >>>>> SUV, boasts a horsepower rating comparable to the gas-powered Mustang >>>>> GT, with both offering around 480 horsepower. However, the Mach-E GT >>>>> delivers significantly more torque, particularly instant torque, which >>>>> contributes to its quicker acceleration from 0 to 60 mph.
Many EV can do that.
But where's the fun?
The sound, the vibration, etc.
Besides my GT has a Whipple on it.
A completely different game altogether albeit an extra $10k.
While the
Mustang GT might have a slight edge in top speed and performance at
higher speeds, the Mach-E GT excels in initial acceleration and
responsiveness.
So the "sewing machine" cars they whine about are in fact muscle cars >>>>> that in the long run will be far cheaper to build, operate, and
maintain.
In the future maybe.
Currently?
Nope.
Even with normal DD they wear tires like crazy.
Cost a fortune to repair even minor damage and finding a qualified
body shop or
dealer to repair it is difficult.
Insurance is also high and BTW if you happen to be renewing your home
owner's
insurance one of the first questions you will be asked is if you own
an EV and
park it in an attached garage or near one.
And slowing the introduction of cheaper, cleaner tech in the US has one >>>>> primary result--it will make it easier for China to eat our lunch as >>>>> they produce faster, cheaper cars and open up worldwide markets before >>>>> us. I'd rather we made America the best.
Same.
No matter the product be it car, TV etc.
Ummm ... was there a reply here ? Can't find it.
"Choice" is IMPORTANT to the whole 'free country' concept.
Some will make good and informed choices, others bad choices,
others will pick one side or another just by sheer accident.
EVs have "promise" - but NOT TODAY. It's the damned batteries
mostly. SOME new kinds of batteries are being developed, but
they're not industrial scale and affordable yet. Five or ten
years maybe.
Recently saw a whole Tesla "charging park" installed near
a local shopping mall - about 20 charge stations. Thing
is, it's the ONLY one I've seen anywhere around. This is
the OTHER indirect prob with the batteries - where to
charge them. It's a LOT of energy really. 15 amps from
your home socket AIN'T gonna cut it.
Try :
https://rvelectricity.substack.com/p/how-many-kwh-of-energy-are-in-a-gallon >>
Gasoline has a LOT of energy.
Note that all gasoline cars do NOT have to be
V-10 hemi's attached to huge trucks. Relatively
low-performance minis will get it done just
fine for 95% of the pop. However they DO need
to get from Miami to NYC without a bunch of
three-hour recharge stops.
In any case, BOTH fuel methods are (or will be)
viable. Ignore AlGore - he's selling you something.
The EV also have difficulties in cold and hot weather.
And then there is the time wasted charging when away from home.
It takes me about 5 minutes to fill my Mustang tank. How
long does it take to charge an EV even if topping off?
So maybe a decent grocery getter but horrible for longer trips.
On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 14:21:10 -0700, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/4/2025 2:47 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-04, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
Have you bought your Tesla yet?
Trump recommends it, in fact he even
starred in a Tesla commercial.
I don't care if Nikola Tesla himself came back from the grave and
recommended it, I have no need for a rolling sewing machine.
HOWEVER, if I were to lose my mind and buy an EV, it would either be
a Tesla S or a Lucid Grand Touring.
Still, I prefer my 24 Mustang GT with a Whipple Stage 1 supercharger.
"pothole" doesn't have that car, but the fact he knows about it and is >>aspirational for it is more proof that "pothole" is male, albeit not the least
bit masculine. No female is going to swoon over such a car.
And Rudely is impersonating me yet again.
On 2025-07-06, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 14:21:10 -0700, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/4/2025 2:47 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-04, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
Have you bought your Tesla yet?
Trump recommends it, in fact he even
starred in a Tesla commercial.
I don't care if Nikola Tesla himself came back from the grave and
recommended it, I have no need for a rolling sewing machine.
HOWEVER, if I were to lose my mind and buy an EV, it would either be
a Tesla S or a Lucid Grand Touring.
Still, I prefer my 24 Mustang GT with a Whipple Stage 1 supercharger.
"pothole" doesn't have that car, but the fact he knows about it and is
aspirational for it is more proof that "pothole" is male, albeit not the least
bit masculine. No female is going to swoon over such a car.
And Rudely is impersonating me yet again.
ROTFLMAO!!
Me too.
I'm basking in all of the attention.
Hahaha!
On 2025-07-05, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 21:47:56 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-04, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
That's the beautiful thing about our country. You can still make
choices about what you want.
Exactly !
And that's the concept that sails right over the libby's heads.
Thatg's the beautiful thing about our country, making
choices... oops. This willm sail right over magats' heads.
https://tax.thomsonreuters.com/news/trump-orders-treasury-to-axe-clean-ene >rgy-credit-guidance/
President Trump signed an executive order Monday
directing the Treasury Department to pull the plug
on regulatory and other guidance projects relating
to clean energy tax credit provisions under the
Inflation Reduction Act that were revised by the
One Big Beautiful Bill (P.L. 119-21)
Gronk wrote:
Thatg's the beautiful thing about our country, making
choices... oops. This willm sail right over magats' heads.
https://tax.thomsonreuters.com/news/trump-orders-treasury-to-axe-clean-ene >>rgy-credit-guidance/
President Trump signed an executive order Monday
directing the Treasury Department to pull the plug
on regulatory and other guidance projects relating
to clean energy tax credit provisions under the
Inflation Reduction Act that were revised by the
One Big Beautiful Bill (P.L. 119-21)
Trump knows that clean energy is a great leftist lie and burning the
bodies of rightists is the one true way to produce energy.
We could get ICE to nab them off the street!
The world is suffering from the creatures of fantasy and nightmares which
can appear with just a few minutes of warning anywhere, regardless of it being the middle of the street or on top of your bed while you are asleep.
It can be a single one, or millions that swarm the area. The world's infrastructure has been degrading, food and supplies are harder and harder
to come by. While firearms work well against these creatures the bodies
left behind attract and breed both insects and disease. It is not feasible
to hold on to area's with low populations as a sudden appearance of many nightmares can wipe them out.
As fuel becomes harder to come by civilians turn to the only resource they have in abundance: dead nightmarish bodies. They have slowly but surely started an entire industry around the collection, transport and processing
of all the bodies into as many useful things as they can.
The question: How can an abundance of dead bodies be used to create as
many fuel types as possible.
The types of fuel that I am mainly looking into:
combustion fuels (cars, fuel-powered tools like chainsaws)
burning fuels (for cooking, heating, electricity and steam production)
lightsource fuels (torches, candles, "clean" bonfires to guide
travelers at night like a lighthouse). explosive fuels (propellant for
bullets, grenades and other explosives).
Conditions that apply:
use of alternative materials is allowed, as long as 75% or more of the
fuel substance is gained from the dead bodies. anything of the
creatures can be used. Their skin, bones, remaining fecal matter or
small quantities of specialist materials if you see a use. the size of
the creatures goes from dog-sized to paraceratherium-sized
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraceratherium). while Cthulian
sushi-monsters, giant spiders and more are part of the nightmare
force, for ease of answering the important bulk of the bodies are of
similar in consistency as pigs and cows and any other bodies are
discounted (unless only tiny amounts of material needs to be gained
from this group of bodies). any magical properties, like the giant
spiders not collapsing under their own weight, are instantly gone upon
death of the creature. the refinement process can take a maximum of 5
years.
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