https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/06/13/boeing-thought-safety- crisis-was-over-now-faces-nightmare/
Boeing thought its safety crisis was over. Now it faces a
nightmare
The Air India crash involving a 787 Dreamliner threatens
fresh turmoil for the aerospace giant
. . .
SOME are now trying HARD to blame the pilot.
Little wonder, there are BIG $$$ involved.
Facts seem to be that the 787 in India suddenly
failed to produce the needed power to keep the
airliner aloft. Doesn't matter how the damned
flaps were set - it SHOULD have had WAY MORE
than adequate engine power to cope - indeed it's
meant to fly with just ONE engine.
It didn't. It couldn't. Something BAD, systemic,
happened and over 250 are dead in flames.
The ONE miracle survivor said that lights on the
plane suddenly started shifting between white and
green right around take-off. This is said to be
an indicator that the plane was shifting between
normal and emergency-backup electric power. Another
passenger recorded a vid moments before complaining
that all the electronic stuff seemed to be fucked.
The particular airline did NOT have a great record,
let problems continue until they just could not be
ignored anymore.
However, we're looking at some MAJOR systems failure
here ... everything progressively screwing-up, soon
to affect even the engine-control systems. As you
would expect with electronics, all this happened
within a minute or less.
The survivor said he saw the stewardess obliterated
right before his eyes as the plane plowed in. What
a sight to remember .......
The one very brief message from the pilot said he
could not get good engine power. This WILL show up
on the black boxes (now officially found).
Sorry, but this sounds a lot like a SOFTWARE problem,
a rapidly-deteriorating electronic-control system.
The plane DID get off the ground, a bit late, and
made it to about 500 feet ... and there's where the
engines seem to have powered down no matter what
the pilots did.
Modern airliners are completely "fly by wire" - ie
the physical controls don't connect to ANYTHING
except electronic servo motors, computers and relays.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/06/13/boeing-thought-safety-crisis-was-over-now-faces-nightmare/
Boeing thought its safety crisis was over. Now it faces a
nightmare
The Air India crash involving a 787 Dreamliner threatens
fresh turmoil for the aerospace giant
. . .
SOME are now trying HARD to blame the pilot.
Little wonder, there are BIG $$$ involved.
Facts seem to be that the 787 in India suddenly
failed to produce the needed power to keep the
airliner aloft. Doesn't matter how the damned
flaps were set - it SHOULD have had WAY MORE
than adequate engine power to cope - indeed it's
meant to fly with just ONE engine.
It didn't. It couldn't. Something BAD, systemic,
happened and over 250 are dead in flames.
The ONE miracle survivor said that lights on the
plane suddenly started shifting between white and
green right around take-off. This is said to be
an indicator that the plane was shifting between
normal and emergency-backup electric power. Another
passenger recorded a vid moments before complaining
that all the electronic stuff seemed to be fucked.
The particular airline did NOT have a great record,
let problems continue until they just could not be
ignored anymore.
However, we're looking at some MAJOR systems failure
here ... everything progressively screwing-up, soon
to affect even the engine-control systems. As you
would expect with electronics, all this happened
within a minute or less.
The survivor said he saw the stewardess obliterated
right before his eyes as the plane plowed in. What
a sight to remember .......
The one very brief message from the pilot said he
could not get good engine power. This WILL show up
on the black boxes (now officially found).
Sorry, but this sounds a lot like a SOFTWARE problem,
a rapidly-deteriorating electronic-control system.
The plane DID get off the ground, a bit late, and
made it to about 500 feet ... and there's where the
engines seem to have powered down no matter what
the pilots did.
Modern airliners are completely "fly by wire" - ie
the physical controls don't connect to ANYTHING
except electronic servo motors, computers and relays.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/06/13/boeing-thought-safety-crisis-was-over-now-faces-nightmare/
Boeing thought its safety crisis was over. Now it faces a
nightmare
The Air India crash involving a 787 Dreamliner threatens
fresh turmoil for the aerospace giant
. . .
SOME are now trying HARD to blame the pilot.
Little wonder, there are BIG $$$ involved.
Facts seem to be that the 787 in India suddenly
failed to produce the needed power to keep the
airliner aloft. Doesn't matter how the damned
flaps were set - it SHOULD have had WAY MORE
than adequate engine power to cope - indeed it's
meant to fly with just ONE engine.
It didn't. It couldn't. Something BAD, systemic,
happened and over 250 are dead in flames.
The ONE miracle survivor said that lights on the
plane suddenly started shifting between white and
green right around take-off. This is said to be
an indicator that the plane was shifting between
normal and emergency-backup electric power. Another
passenger recorded a vid moments before complaining
that all the electronic stuff seemed to be fucked.
The particular airline did NOT have a great record,
let problems continue until they just could not be
ignored anymore.
However, we're looking at some MAJOR systems failure
here ... everything progressively screwing-up, soon
to affect even the engine-control systems. As you
would expect with electronics, all this happened
within a minute or less.
The survivor said he saw the stewardess obliterated
right before his eyes as the plane plowed in. What
a sight to remember .......
The one very brief message from the pilot said he
could not get good engine power. This WILL show up
on the black boxes (now officially found).
Sorry, but this sounds a lot like a SOFTWARE problem,
a rapidly-deteriorating electronic-control system.
The plane DID get off the ground, a bit late, and
made it to about 500 feet ... and there's where the
engines seem to have powered down no matter what
the pilots did.
Modern airliners are completely "fly by wire" - ie
the physical controls don't connect to ANYTHING
except electronic servo motors, computers and relays.
c186282 wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/06/13/boeing-thought-safety-
crisis-was-over-now-faces-nightmare/
Boeing thought its safety crisis was over. Now it faces a
nightmare
The Air India crash involving a 787 Dreamliner threatens
fresh turmoil for the aerospace giant
. . .
SOME are now trying HARD to blame the pilot.
Little wonder, there are BIG $$$ involved.
Facts seem to be that the 787 in India suddenly
failed to produce the needed power to keep the
airliner aloft. Doesn't matter how the damned
flaps were set - it SHOULD have had WAY MORE
than adequate engine power to cope - indeed it's
meant to fly with just ONE engine.
It didn't. It couldn't. Something BAD, systemic,
happened and over 250 are dead in flames.
The ONE miracle survivor said that lights on the
plane suddenly started shifting between white and
green right around take-off. This is said to be
an indicator that the plane was shifting between
normal and emergency-backup electric power. Another
passenger recorded a vid moments before complaining
that all the electronic stuff seemed to be fucked.
The particular airline did NOT have a great record,
let problems continue until they just could not be
ignored anymore.
However, we're looking at some MAJOR systems failure
here ... everything progressively screwing-up, soon
to affect even the engine-control systems. As you
would expect with electronics, all this happened
within a minute or less.
The survivor said he saw the stewardess obliterated
right before his eyes as the plane plowed in. What
a sight to remember .......
The one very brief message from the pilot said he
could not get good engine power. This WILL show up
on the black boxes (now officially found).
I am not defending Boeing, just trying to get the facts. My question to
you is: Are you or were you a pilot?? You might just want to search
for the safety record of this plane before saying that Boeing is at
fault. Below is a quote from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhcrxht-Ntk
"This is the first time a Boeing 787 has crashed since the Dreamliner
went into service in 2011."
On 6/14/2025 1:26 PM, Ken wrote:
c186282 wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/06/13/boeing-thought-safety- crisis-was-over-now-faces-nightmare/
Boeing thought its safety crisis was over. Now it faces a
nightmare
The Air India crash involving a 787 Dreamliner threatens
fresh turmoil for the aerospace giant
. . .
SOME are now trying HARD to blame the pilot.
Little wonder, there are BIG $$$ involved.
Facts seem to be that the 787 in India suddenly
failed to produce the needed power to keep the
airliner aloft. Doesn't matter how the damned
flaps were set - it SHOULD have had WAY MORE
than adequate engine power to cope - indeed it's
meant to fly with just ONE engine.
It didn't. It couldn't. Something BAD, systemic,
happened and over 250 are dead in flames.
The ONE miracle survivor said that lights on the
plane suddenly started shifting between white and
green right around take-off. This is said to be
an indicator that the plane was shifting between
normal and emergency-backup electric power. Another
passenger recorded a vid moments before complaining
that all the electronic stuff seemed to be fucked.
The particular airline did NOT have a great record,
let problems continue until they just could not be
ignored anymore.
However, we're looking at some MAJOR systems failure
here ... everything progressively screwing-up, soon
to affect even the engine-control systems. As you
would expect with electronics, all this happened
within a minute or less.
The survivor said he saw the stewardess obliterated
right before his eyes as the plane plowed in. What
a sight to remember .......
The one very brief message from the pilot said he
could not get good engine power. This WILL show up
on the black boxes (now officially found).
I am not defending Boeing, just trying to get the facts. My question
to you is: Are you or were you a pilot?? You might just want to
search for the safety record of this plane before saying that Boeing
is at fault. Below is a quote from
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhcrxht-Ntk
"This is the first time a Boeing 787 has crashed since the Dreamliner
went into service in 2011."
That's a very good point. As an aside, I wonder why the city planners placed a medical college dormitory right under the flight path at the
end of a runway of an international airport. Not only would the medical students have to endure the constant noise of overhead aircraft, but it
put them in extreme danger of just such an event.
The plane slammed into a medical college dormitory, leaving one survivor
from the flight.
Search and rescue workers recovered more bodies from the site late
Friday, pushing the death toll higher, officials told media on Saturday.
The authorities had earlier put the body count at 265.
....I am not defending Boeing, just trying to get the facts. My question to
you is: Are you or were you a pilot?? You might just want to search
for the safety record of this plane before saying that Boeing is at
fault. Below is a quote from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhcrxht-Ntk
"This is the first time a Boeing 787 has crashed since the Dreamliner
went into service in 2011."
That's a very good point. As an aside, I wonder why the city planners
placed a medical college dormitory right under the flight path at the
end of a runway of an international airport. Not only would the medical >students have to endure the constant noise of overhead aircraft, but it
put them in extreme danger of just such an event.
On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 02:43:50 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Another
passenger recorded a vid moments before complaining
that all the electronic stuff seemed to be fucked.
This is a lie being promulgated by the right. That video that is
circulating was made many hours before by another passenger on another
Air India flight that may have been on that same plane.
On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 06:33:13 -0600, Doctor Fill <[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/15/2025 3:27 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 02:43:50 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Another
passenger recorded a vid moments before complaining
that all the electronic stuff seemed to be fucked.
This is a lie being promulgated by the right. That video that is
circulating was made many hours before by another passenger on another
Air India flight that may have been on that same plane.
What makes you think "the right" is responsible for an Indian man on an
Indian Airlines flight which may have been on the same aircraft that
crashed uploading the video?
The lie is that the video was made "moments before" the crash.
It was not.
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