https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250612-air-india-passenger- flight-to-london-crashes-after-takeoff-in-ahmedabad
. . .
BBC is showing multi-angle videos. The 787-8 took off in
what looked like a normal fashion, got up about five or
six hundred feet, then settled down again and crashed
into the city in a gigantic fireball. It was a flight
direct to London and a least 50 British citizens were
onboard. The plane was reportedly at near full capacity.
Most hit was a complex of apartments holding doctors
and medical students.
ONE passenger is known to have survived, and was
actually able to walk away. He did have some injuries
however and was taken to a hospital. Reportedly he
still had his boarding pass. He claims some kind of
"bang" moments before the crash, but his memories
may be a bit scrambled.
The best coverage has been on BBC, for obvious reasons.
There are at least two vids of the plane taking off,
one from a camera at the airport. The plane seemed
under full control the entire time, no obvious smoke
or bits falling off. "Loss of power" is the first
conclusion - but WHY ?
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250612-air-india-passenger-f light-to-london-crashes-after-takeoff-in-ahmedabad
. . .
BBC is showing multi-angle videos. The 787-8 took off in
what looked like a normal fashion, got up about five or
six hundred feet, then settled down again and crashed
into the city in a gigantic fireball. It was a flight
direct to London and a least 50 British citizens were
onboard. The plane was reportedly at near full capacity.
Most hit was a complex of apartments holding doctors
and medical students.
ONE passenger is known to have survived, and was
actually able to walk away. He did have some injuries
however and was taken to a hospital. Reportedly he
still had his boarding pass. He claims some kind of
"bang" moments before the crash, but his memories
may be a bit scrambled.
The best coverage has been on BBC, for obvious reasons.
There are at least two vids of the plane taking off,
one from a camera at the airport. The plane seemed
under full control the entire time, no obvious smoke
or bits falling off. "Loss of power" is the first
conclusion - but WHY ?
On 6/12/25 1:42 PM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250612-air-india-passenger-
flight-to-london-crashes-after-takeoff-in-ahmedabad
. . .
BBC is showing multi-angle videos. The 787-8 took off in
what looked like a normal fashion, got up about five or
six hundred feet, then settled down again and crashed
into the city in a gigantic fireball. It was a flight
direct to London and a least 50 British citizens were
onboard. The plane was reportedly at near full capacity.
Most hit was a complex of apartments holding doctors
and medical students.
ONE passenger is known to have survived, and was
actually able to walk away. He did have some injuries
however and was taken to a hospital. Reportedly he
still had his boarding pass. He claims some kind of
"bang" moments before the crash, but his memories
may be a bit scrambled.
The best coverage has been on BBC, for obvious reasons.
There are at least two vids of the plane taking off,
one from a camera at the airport. The plane seemed
under full control the entire time, no obvious smoke
or bits falling off. "Loss of power" is the first
conclusion - but WHY ?
Let's see how the left blames those one on Trump.
On 6/12/25 1:56 PM, Radio Gnome wrote:
On 6/12/25 1:42 PM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250612-air-india-
passenger- flight-to-london-crashes-after-takeoff-in-ahmedabad
. . .
BBC is showing multi-angle videos. The 787-8 took off in
what looked like a normal fashion, got up about five or
six hundred feet, then settled down again and crashed
into the city in a gigantic fireball. It was a flight
direct to London and a least 50 British citizens were
onboard. The plane was reportedly at near full capacity.
Most hit was a complex of apartments holding doctors
and medical students.
ONE passenger is known to have survived, and was
actually able to walk away. He did have some injuries
however and was taken to a hospital. Reportedly he
still had his boarding pass. He claims some kind of
"bang" moments before the crash, but his memories
may be a bit scrambled.
The best coverage has been on BBC, for obvious reasons.
There are at least two vids of the plane taking off,
one from a camera at the airport. The plane seemed
under full control the entire time, no obvious smoke
or bits falling off. "Loss of power" is the first
conclusion - but WHY ?
Let's see how the left blames those one on Trump.
Give 'em five minutes ....
Ok, a little more info now, the captain did manage
to call in a mayday and said he was unable to get
good engine power. The straight track of the plane
suggests that both engines lost power at the same
moment, there was no sign of them trying to adjust
for asymmetric thrust.
This COULD be a software error or even deliberate
sabotage by someone who had access to the underdeck
equipment. They say this plane had been in service
for about ten years and had no significant problems
during that time.
Alas there was little remaining except literal shreds
of burnt metal and the tail section (stuck into one
of the apt buildings). If sabotage, the evidence may
have been destroyed.
Oh, the magic seat number ... 11-A
On 6/12/25 1:56 PM, Radio Gnome wrote:
On 6/12/25 1:42 PM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250612-air-india-passenger-
flight-to-london-crashes-after-takeoff-in-ahmedabad
. . .
BBC is showing multi-angle videos. The 787-8 took off in
what looked like a normal fashion, got up about five or
six hundred feet, then settled down again and crashed
into the city in a gigantic fireball. It was a flight
direct to London and a least 50 British citizens were
onboard. The plane was reportedly at near full capacity.
Most hit was a complex of apartments holding doctors
and medical students.
ONE passenger is known to have survived, and was
actually able to walk away. He did have some injuries
however and was taken to a hospital. Reportedly he
still had his boarding pass. He claims some kind of
"bang" moments before the crash, but his memories
may be a bit scrambled.
The best coverage has been on BBC, for obvious reasons.
There are at least two vids of the plane taking off,
one from a camera at the airport. The plane seemed
under full control the entire time, no obvious smoke
or bits falling off. "Loss of power" is the first
conclusion - but WHY ?
Let's see how the left blames those one on Trump.
Give 'em five minutes ....
Ok, a little more info now, the captain did manage
to call in a mayday and said he was unable to get
good engine power. The straight track of the plane
suggests that both engines lost power at the same
moment, there was no sign of them trying to adjust
for asymmetric thrust.
This COULD be a software error or even deliberate
sabotage by someone who had access to the underdeck
equipment.
BBC is showing multi-angle videos. The 787-8 took off in
what looked like a normal fashion, got up about five or
six hundred feet, then settled down again and crashed
into the city in a gigantic fireball. It was a flight
direct to London and a least 50 British citizens were
onboard. The plane was reportedly at near full capacity.
Most hit was a complex of apartments holding doctors
and medical students.
On 6/12/2025 11:15 AM, c186282, Nazi pseudo-sage and cipher fuckscum,
took his hands and mouth off Xi's dick long enough to peck:
On 6/12/25 1:56 PM, Radio Gnome wrote:
On 6/12/25 1:42 PM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250612-air-india-passenger- >>>> flight-to-london-crashes-after-takeoff-in-ahmedabad
. . .
BBC is showing multi-angle videos. The 787-8 took off in
what looked like a normal fashion, got up about five or
six hundred feet, then settled down again and crashed
into the city in a gigantic fireball. It was a flight
direct to London and a least 50 British citizens were
onboard. The plane was reportedly at near full capacity.
Most hit was a complex of apartments holding doctors
and medical students.
ONE passenger is known to have survived, and was
actually able to walk away. He did have some injuries
however and was taken to a hospital. Reportedly he
still had his boarding pass. He claims some kind of
"bang" moments before the crash, but his memories
may be a bit scrambled.
The best coverage has been on BBC, for obvious reasons.
There are at least two vids of the plane taking off,
one from a camera at the airport. The plane seemed
under full control the entire time, no obvious smoke
or bits falling off. "Loss of power" is the first
conclusion - but WHY ?
Let's see how the left blames those one on Trump.
Give 'em five minutes ....
Fuck off.
Let's see how the left blames those one on Trump.
Give 'em five minutes ....
Fuck off.
Awwww ... it's a disaster you CAN'T USE ... tragic !
On 12/6/25 20:27, c186282 wrote:
Let's see how the left blames those one on Trump.
Give 'em five minutes ....
Fuck off.
Awwww ... it's a disaster you CAN'T USE ... tragic !
India does not our condolences. They need to be forced to take sides in
our politics.
On 6/12/2025 12:15 PM, c186282 wrote:
On 6/12/25 1:56 PM, Radio Gnome wrote:
On 6/12/25 1:42 PM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250612-air-india-
passenger- flight-to-london-crashes-after-takeoff-in-ahmedabad
. . .
BBC is showing multi-angle videos. The 787-8 took off in
what looked like a normal fashion, got up about five or
six hundred feet, then settled down again and crashed
into the city in a gigantic fireball. It was a flight
direct to London and a least 50 British citizens were
onboard. The plane was reportedly at near full capacity.
Most hit was a complex of apartments holding doctors
and medical students.
ONE passenger is known to have survived, and was
actually able to walk away. He did have some injuries
however and was taken to a hospital. Reportedly he
still had his boarding pass. He claims some kind of
"bang" moments before the crash, but his memories
may be a bit scrambled.
The best coverage has been on BBC, for obvious reasons.
There are at least two vids of the plane taking off,
one from a camera at the airport. The plane seemed
under full control the entire time, no obvious smoke
or bits falling off. "Loss of power" is the first
conclusion - but WHY ?
Let's see how the left blames those one on Trump.
Give 'em five minutes ....
Ok, a little more info now, the captain did manage
to call in a mayday and said he was unable to get
good engine power. The straight track of the plane
suggests that both engines lost power at the same
moment, there was no sign of them trying to adjust
for asymmetric thrust.
This COULD be a software error or even deliberate
sabotage by someone who had access to the underdeck
equipment. They say this plane had been in service
for about ten years and had no significant problems
during that time.
Alas there was little remaining except literal shreds
of burnt metal and the tail section (stuck into one
of the apt buildings). If sabotage, the evidence may
have been destroyed.
Oh, the magic seat number ... 11-A
Must have been right next to an emergency exit with a very brave
passenger who jumped out while the plane was still in the air. Look at
the photo of the tail of the doomed jetliner sticking out of a third
story of a building.
On 6/12/2025 9:51 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 12/6/25 20:27, c186282 wrote:You should have your brain scanned with an MRI or CAT scan. Your posts
Let's see how the left blames those one on Trump.
Give 'em five minutes ....
Fuck off.
Awwww ... it's a disaster you CAN'T USE ... tragic !
India does not our condolences. They need to be forced to take sides
in our politics.
show a pattern of missing words. Perhaps you have suffered a stroke or
brain aneuerism (spelling?) or are posting while intoxicated.
On 6/12/25 11:57 PM, Doctor Fill wrote:
On 6/12/2025 9:51 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 12/6/25 20:27, c186282 wrote:You should have your brain scanned with an MRI or CAT scan. Your
Let's see how the left blames those one on Trump.
Give 'em five minutes ....
Fuck off.
Awwww ... it's a disaster you CAN'T USE ... tragic !
India does not our condolences. They need to be forced to take sides
in our politics.
posts show a pattern of missing words. Perhaps you have suffered a
stroke or brain aneuerism (spelling?) or are posting while intoxicated.
I kind of agree with you - his stuff is getting
weirder and weirder, TDS on meth, delusions, the
whole bit. WAY more than just posting while blackout
drunk. Brain tumor ???
As for India ... it is, kind of has to remain, a
bit outside the USA/Russia/China bubble.
Ah, it's now reported that Israel, as our proxy
no doubt, is attacking Iranian nuke facilities.
Sorry, but DON'T think this is gonna turn out
all that well ......... and I'm sure Iran HAS
some nukes already - 1940s tech and they've had
all the makings and sci and motive for many years.
So, if Tel-Aviv goes up in a big flash, don't
be so surprised. Then Tehran will go up in a
big flash. Can the rest of us kinda stay OUT
of it ???????????
Maybe I don't have to worry about my stock futures ...
On 6/12/2025 10:21 PM, c186282 wrote:
On 6/12/25 11:57 PM, Doctor Fill wrote:
On 6/12/2025 9:51 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 12/6/25 20:27, c186282 wrote:You should have your brain scanned with an MRI or CAT scan. Your
Let's see how the left blames those one on Trump.
Give 'em five minutes ....
Fuck off.
Awwww ... it's a disaster you CAN'T USE ... tragic !
India does not our condolences. They need to be forced to take sides
in our politics.
posts show a pattern of missing words. Perhaps you have suffered a
stroke or brain aneuerism (spelling?) or are posting while intoxicated.
I kind of agree with you - his stuff is getting
weirder and weirder, TDS on meth, delusions, the
whole bit. WAY more than just posting while blackout
drunk. Brain tumor ???
As for India ... it is, kind of has to remain, a
bit outside the USA/Russia/China bubble.
Ah, it's now reported that Israel, as our proxy
no doubt, is attacking Iranian nuke facilities.
Sorry, but DON'T think this is gonna turn out
all that well ......... and I'm sure Iran HAS
some nukes already - 1940s tech and they've had
all the makings and sci and motive for many years.
So, if Tel-Aviv goes up in a big flash, don't
be so surprised. Then Tehran will go up in a
big flash. Can the rest of us kinda stay OUT
of it ???????????
Maybe I don't have to worry about my stock futures ...
What's not being talked about on the state controlled media is the
Fukushima level fallout that is blowing from Iran toward China and other nations in the downwind direction from Iran's nuclear facilities. Shhh,
don't say anything.
On 6/12/2025 10:21 PM, c186282 wrote:
On 6/12/25 11:57 PM, Doctor Fill wrote:
On 6/12/2025 9:51 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 12/6/25 20:27, c186282 wrote:You should have your brain scanned with an MRI or CAT scan. Your
Let's see how the left blames those one on Trump.
Give 'em five minutes ....
Fuck off.
Awwww ... it's a disaster you CAN'T USE ... tragic !
India does not our condolences. They need to be forced to take sides
in our politics.
posts show a pattern of missing words. Perhaps you have suffered a
stroke or brain aneuerism (spelling?) or are posting while intoxicated.
I kind of agree with you - his stuff is getting
weirder and weirder, TDS on meth, delusions, the
whole bit. WAY more than just posting while blackout
drunk. Brain tumor ???
As for India ... it is, kind of has to remain, a
bit outside the USA/Russia/China bubble.
Ah, it's now reported that Israel, as our proxy
no doubt, is attacking Iranian nuke facilities.
Sorry, but DON'T think this is gonna turn out
all that well ......... and I'm sure Iran HAS
some nukes already - 1940s tech and they've had
all the makings and sci and motive for many years.
So, if Tel-Aviv goes up in a big flash, don't
be so surprised. Then Tehran will go up in a
big flash. Can the rest of us kinda stay OUT
of it ???????????
Maybe I don't have to worry about my stock futures ...
What's not being talked about on the state controlled media is the
Fukushima level fallout that is blowing from Iran toward China and other nations in the downwind direction from Iran's nuclear facilities. Shhh,
don't say anything.
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250612-air-india-passenger-flight-to-london-crashes-after-takeoff-in-ahmedabad
Could perhaps be a bird strike in one (or more) of the engines.
The only surviving passenger heard a noise just before it crashed.
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250612-air-india-passenger-flight-to-london-crashes-after-takeoff-in-ahmedabad
On 6/14/25 3:15 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250612-air-india-passenger-flight-to-london-crashes-after-takeoff-in-ahmedabad
Could perhaps be a bird strike in one (or more) of the engines.
The only surviving passenger heard a noise just before it crashed.
Birds ??? Falling for the Boeing line ?
Those planes have LOTS of power.
From everything from reports the thing just
wouldn't produce POWER ... starting on the
runway. Onboard reports of electronics
screw-ups, the ONE survivor says the lights
kept flickering from normal to emergency
mode.
Sorry, we're looking at a major systems
failure here.
The engines seem to have just POWERED DOWN
despite pilot efforts.
Modern "fly by wire" has its advantages -
so long as the computers work right.
Smells like they didn't.
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250612-air-india-passenger-flight-to-london-crashes-after-takeoff-in-ahmedabad
. . .
BBC is showing multi-angle videos. The 787-8 took off in
what looked like a normal fashion, got up about five or
six hundred feet, then settled down again and crashed
into the city in a gigantic fireball. It was a flight
direct to London and a least 50 British citizens were
onboard. The plane was reportedly at near full capacity.
Most hit was a complex of apartments holding doctors
and medical students.
ONE passenger is known to have survived, and was
actually able to walk away. He did have some injuries
however and was taken to a hospital. Reportedly he
still had his boarding pass. He claims some kind of
"bang" moments before the crash, but his memories
may be a bit scrambled.
The best coverage has been on BBC, for obvious reasons.
There are at least two vids of the plane taking off,
one from a camera at the airport. The plane seemed
under full control the entire time, no obvious smoke
or bits falling off. "Loss of power" is the first
conclusion - but WHY ?
On 6/14/25 3:15 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250612-air-india-passenger-flight-to-london-crashes-after-takeoff-in-ahmedabad
Could perhaps be a bird strike in one (or more) of the engines.
The only surviving passenger heard a noise just before it crashed.
Birds ??? Falling for the Boeing line ?
Those planes have LOTS of power.
From everything from reports the thing just
wouldn't produce POWER ... starting on the
runway. Onboard reports of electronics
screw-ups, the ONE survivor says the lights
kept flickering from normal to emergency
mode.
Sorry, we're looking at a major systems
failure here.
The engines seem to have just POWERED DOWN
despite pilot efforts.
Modern "fly by wire" has its advantages -
so long as the computers work right.
Smells like they didn't.
Bird strikes can be easily confirmed by looking in (what's left of ) the engines.
Birds often fly in flocks..
This one landed in the Hudson river:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549
There is a series on German TV here, called 'Mayday' where
different airplane accidents are analyzed by the teams.
I have seen many of those now, very interesting,
from pilot error to having flaps moving the wrong way after maintenance... Some hard to believe!
I have flow when we got an engine on fire..
We had to return, people granulated the pilot after the landing,
fire trucks everywhere
OTOH I did see what looked like oil under the wing at the terminal waiting to check in.
Pilot did NOT walk round the plane before entering, just walked right in..
S, I have become a bit more careful about flying.
Last time I took a ferry from UK to mainland Europe:-)
At least you can swim...
It's a little early to be playing guessing games about what happened,
doncha think?
Btw, regarding bird strikes, remember US Airways Flight 1549? <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549>
That airbus 320 had 'lots of power' too.
On 6/14/25 12:27 PM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On 6/14/25 3:15 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250612-air-india-passenger-flight-to-london-crashes-after-takeoff-in-ahmedabad
Could perhaps be a bird strike in one (or more) of the engines.
The only surviving passenger heard a noise just before it crashed.
Birds ??? Falling for the Boeing line ?
Those planes have LOTS of power.
From everything from reports the thing just
wouldn't produce POWER ... starting on the
runway. Onboard reports of electronics
screw-ups, the ONE survivor says the lights
kept flickering from normal to emergency
mode.
Sorry, we're looking at a major systems
failure here.
The engines seem to have just POWERED DOWN
despite pilot efforts.
Modern "fly by wire" has its advantages -
so long as the computers work right.
Smells like they didn't.
Bird strikes can be easily confirmed by looking in (what's left of ) the engines.
Birds often fly in flocks..
This one landed in the Hudson river:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549
I've already seen vids from three angles - no hint
of bird impacts. The vid from the airport itself
showed the plane depart, go up, and then float down
and you could see the engines clearly all the way
until after it started settling down. No stuff, no
smoke.
The last messsage said there wasn't power, nothing
about flaps or gear or birds or anything else. Both
engines seem to have just powered-down by themselves.
Anyway, they did find the boxes. We'll probably get
some preliminary info next week.
Note there IS a de-facto state of war with Pakistan
in progress ... sabotage cannot be ruled out. The
survivor claimed to have heard a 'bang' somewhere
right after take-off, but it's hard to judge how
sharp his recall is after so much trauma. SOME
passengers may have also been recording or on
calls with their phones - so there may be more
info on 'bangs' and such to be had.
There is a series on German TV here, called 'Mayday' where
different airplane accidents are analyzed by the teams.
I have seen many of those now, very interesting,
from pilot error to having flaps moving the wrong way after maintenance... >> Some hard to believe!
I have flow when we got an engine on fire..
We had to return, people granulated the pilot after the landing,
fire trucks everywhere
OTOH I did see what looked like oil under the wing at the terminal waiting to check in.
Pilot did NOT walk round the plane before entering, just walked right in.. >> S, I have become a bit more careful about flying.
Last time I took a ferry from UK to mainland Europe:-)
At least you can swim...
Use trains. Not as fast, but can be nice. Adds more
"journey" back into the equation as well.
The pilot SHOULD do the once-around the plane, but if
it's a corporation the 'pit crew' is supposed to have
done that already.
c186282 wrote:
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250612-air-india-passenger-flight-to-london-crashes-after-takeoff-in-ahmedabad
. . .
� BBC is showing multi-angle videos. The 787-8 took off in
� what looked like a normal fashion, got up about five or
� six hundred feet, then settled down again and crashed
� into the city in a gigantic fireball. It was a flight
� direct to London and a least 50 British citizens were
� onboard. The plane was reportedly at near full capacity.
� Most hit was a complex of apartments holding doctors
� and medical students.
� ONE passenger is known to have survived, and was
� actually able to walk away. He did have some injuries
� however and was taken to a hospital. Reportedly he
� still had his boarding pass. He claims some kind of
� "bang" moments before the crash, but his memories
� may be a bit scrambled.
� The best coverage has been on BBC, for obvious reasons.
� There are at least two vids of the plane taking off,
� one from a camera at the airport. The plane seemed
� under full control the entire time, no obvious smoke
� or bits falling off. "Loss of power" is the first
� conclusion - but WHY ?
I viewed an interview yesterday on TV of a couple of pilots. They said
the flaps should have been down, and the wheels should have been up. If
that is true, this could be a pilot error.
On 14/6/25 18:17, Governor Swill wrote:
It's a little early to be playing guessing games about what happened,
doncha think?
Btw, regarding bird strikes, remember US Airways Flight 1549?
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549>
That airbus 320 had 'lots of power' too.
India has its equivalent to the NTSB. And our NTSB is assisting.
India has found the flight recorders.
I am sad at the loss of lives. May their relatives find peace.
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