• Trump/Musk - Smells Like Political Theater

    From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 5 20:48:40 2025
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    Ummmmmmm ...

    Very suddenly there seems to be a huge split between
    Trump and Musk. Happy goodbye party just the other
    day, and now BOOM. Some of Musk's posts seem just
    EXTREME.

    Did Musk take a huge ketamine+Ambien+? soma holiday
    on leaving DOGE and is kinda literally out of his mind,
    'pink elephant' stuff ???

    Yep, Musk IS losing money because of the BBB and
    end of the mandated EV crap - but he's beyond
    rich, he can lose 100 bil and barely notice - and
    will remake it quick. Also, Musk KNEW this was
    all going to happen for quite awhile.

    SO ... my immediate take ... THIS IS SOME KIND OF
    POLITICAL THEATER - exact purpose to Trump and
    Musk is unclear, but it's just too-too, we cannot
    take what's being said at its face value.

    Both Trump and Musk are primo "salesmen" and
    understand the value of creating (maybe false)
    impressions in pursuit of less obvious agendas.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 6 01:27:30 2025
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    tRUMP's not a big thinker. Elon is.

    Epstein-Trump's still thinking about the satisfying shit he had this morning and the day's almost done. Someone is pulling his strings.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 5 19:16:38 2025
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    On 5/6/25 17:48, c186282 wrote:
    Both Trump and Musk are primo "salesmen" and
    understand the value of creating (maybe false)
    impressions in pursuit of less obvious agendas.

    Being a lying piece of shit is the ideal we should aspire to.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jun 6 02:25:16 2025
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    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ummmmmmm ...

    Very suddenly there seems to be a huge split between
    Trump and Musk. Happy goodbye party just the other
    day, and now BOOM. Some of Musk's posts seem just
    EXTREME.

    Did Musk take a huge ketamine+Ambien+? soma holiday
    on leaving DOGE and is kinda literally out of his mind,
    'pink elephant' stuff ???

    Yep, Musk IS losing money because of the BBB and
    end of the mandated EV crap - but he's beyond
    rich, he can lose 100 bil and barely notice - and
    will remake it quick. Also, Musk KNEW this was
    all going to happen for quite awhile.

    SO ... my immediate take ... THIS IS SOME KIND OF
    POLITICAL THEATER - exact purpose to Trump and
    Musk is unclear, but it's just too-too, we cannot
    take what's being said at its face value.

    Both Trump and Musk are primo "salesmen" and
    understand the value of creating (maybe false)
    impressions in pursuit of less obvious agendas.


    I agree!
    Here's my theory up for discussion......

    1. What typically happens to people who cross Trump?
    Answer is they get attacked without mercy and in a huge way.

    2. What has happened to Musk?
    Pretty much nothing although today Trump did ramp up a little bit but
    still very tame.

    3. Why?

    My theory is, Trump is unhappy with the current state of the BBB, for whatever reason
    and this is his ticket to escape it in his current form and do a rewrite which more
    closely matches his policies.


    Just a theory I conjured up but it does seem plausible.




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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to pothead on Thu Jun 5 23:58:11 2025
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    On 6/5/25 10:25 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ummmmmmm ...

    Very suddenly there seems to be a huge split between
    Trump and Musk. Happy goodbye party just the other
    day, and now BOOM. Some of Musk's posts seem just
    EXTREME.

    Did Musk take a huge ketamine+Ambien+? soma holiday
    on leaving DOGE and is kinda literally out of his mind,
    'pink elephant' stuff ???

    Yep, Musk IS losing money because of the BBB and
    end of the mandated EV crap - but he's beyond
    rich, he can lose 100 bil and barely notice - and
    will remake it quick. Also, Musk KNEW this was
    all going to happen for quite awhile.

    SO ... my immediate take ... THIS IS SOME KIND OF
    POLITICAL THEATER - exact purpose to Trump and
    Musk is unclear, but it's just too-too, we cannot
    take what's being said at its face value.

    Both Trump and Musk are primo "salesmen" and
    understand the value of creating (maybe false)
    impressions in pursuit of less obvious agendas.


    I agree!
    Here's my theory up for discussion......

    1. What typically happens to people who cross Trump?
    Answer is they get attacked without mercy and in a huge way.

    2. What has happened to Musk?
    Pretty much nothing although today Trump did ramp up a little bit but
    still very tame.

    3. Why?

    My theory is, Trump is unhappy with the current state of the BBB, for whatever reason
    and this is his ticket to escape it in his current form and do a rewrite which more
    closely matches his policies.


    Just a theory I conjured up but it does seem plausible.


    As said, I suspect sophisticated 'theater' here.
    It all just smells of a PLAY - designed to shake
    up and shake out problem pols. It runs just
    beautifully in the anti-Trump MSM too - max
    coverage 24/7. At least HALF of today's meet
    with Trump and Merz was reporters obsessed
    by the Musk story. If MSM is obsessed, USE it.

    The BBB *is* a little TOO in some areas. Every pol
    tries to add THEIR pork to it - or to get revenge
    for whatever little shit they don't like. Something
    cleaner and mission-aware is needed. There's still
    time.

    If you get the 'MAGA' theme, the BBB needs to get
    more BACK to that without being needlessly damaging.
    Slash MediCare ? No NO !!! That's political DOOM.
    Everybody 65+ will immediately vote for Chairman
    Mao no matter what.

    Musk was super-into what was going on with the
    legislation all along. He KNEW some BBB provisions
    would COST him all along - and didn't CARE.

    A literal 48-hour super-break with Trump just does
    NOT seem real. A 'screenplay' is being created here.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jun 6 13:14:45 2025
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    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/5/25 10:25 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ummmmmmm ...

    Very suddenly there seems to be a huge split between
    Trump and Musk. Happy goodbye party just the other
    day, and now BOOM. Some of Musk's posts seem just
    EXTREME.

    Did Musk take a huge ketamine+Ambien+? soma holiday
    on leaving DOGE and is kinda literally out of his mind,
    'pink elephant' stuff ???

    Yep, Musk IS losing money because of the BBB and
    end of the mandated EV crap - but he's beyond
    rich, he can lose 100 bil and barely notice - and
    will remake it quick. Also, Musk KNEW this was
    all going to happen for quite awhile.

    SO ... my immediate take ... THIS IS SOME KIND OF
    POLITICAL THEATER - exact purpose to Trump and
    Musk is unclear, but it's just too-too, we cannot
    take what's being said at its face value.

    Both Trump and Musk are primo "salesmen" and
    understand the value of creating (maybe false)
    impressions in pursuit of less obvious agendas.


    I agree!
    Here's my theory up for discussion......

    1. What typically happens to people who cross Trump?
    Answer is they get attacked without mercy and in a huge way.

    2. What has happened to Musk?
    Pretty much nothing although today Trump did ramp up a little bit but
    still very tame.

    3. Why?

    My theory is, Trump is unhappy with the current state of the BBB, for whatever reason
    and this is his ticket to escape it in his current form and do a rewrite which more
    closely matches his policies.


    Just a theory I conjured up but it does seem plausible.


    As said, I suspect sophisticated 'theater' here.
    It all just smells of a PLAY - designed to shake
    up and shake out problem pols. It runs just
    beautifully in the anti-Trump MSM too - max
    coverage 24/7. At least HALF of today's meet
    with Trump and Merz was reporters obsessed
    by the Musk story. If MSM is obsessed, USE it.

    The BBB *is* a little TOO in some areas. Every pol
    tries to add THEIR pork to it - or to get revenge
    for whatever little shit they don't like. Something
    cleaner and mission-aware is needed. There's still
    time.

    If you get the 'MAGA' theme, the BBB needs to get
    more BACK to that without being needlessly damaging.
    Slash MediCare ? No NO !!! That's political DOOM.
    Everybody 65+ will immediately vote for Chairman
    Mao no matter what.

    Musk was super-into what was going on with the
    legislation all along. He KNEW some BBB provisions
    would COST him all along - and didn't CARE.

    A literal 48-hour super-break with Trump just does
    NOT seem real. A 'screenplay' is being created here.

    Yea, something doesn't seem correct here.
    The war of words HAS escalated today though and it's the lead story on
    the MSM morning shows along with trying once again to smear Trump
    with association to Epstein.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to pothead on Sat Jun 7 02:18:46 2025
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    pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:101upk4$28sg9$[email protected]:

    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/5/25 10:25 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ummmmmmm ...

    Very suddenly there seems to be a huge split between
    Trump and Musk. Happy goodbye party just the other
    day, and now BOOM. Some of Musk's posts seem just
    EXTREME.

    Did Musk take a huge ketamine+Ambien+? soma holiday
    on leaving DOGE and is kinda literally out of his mind,
    'pink elephant' stuff ???

    Yep, Musk IS losing money because of the BBB and
    end of the mandated EV crap - but he's beyond
    rich, he can lose 100 bil and barely notice - and
    will remake it quick. Also, Musk KNEW this was
    all going to happen for quite awhile.

    SO ... my immediate take ... THIS IS SOME KIND OF
    POLITICAL THEATER - exact purpose to Trump and
    Musk is unclear, but it's just too-too, we cannot
    take what's being said at its face value.

    Both Trump and Musk are primo "salesmen" and
    understand the value of creating (maybe false)
    impressions in pursuit of less obvious agendas.


    I agree!
    Here's my theory up for discussion......

    1. What typically happens to people who cross Trump?
    Answer is they get attacked without mercy and in a huge way.

    2. What has happened to Musk?
    Pretty much nothing although today Trump did ramp up a little bit
    but still very tame.

    3. Why?

    My theory is, Trump is unhappy with the current state of the BBB,
    for whatever reason and this is his ticket to escape it in his
    current form and do a rewrite which more closely matches his
    policies.


    Just a theory I conjured up but it does seem plausible.


    As said, I suspect sophisticated 'theater' here.
    It all just smells of a PLAY - designed to shake
    up and shake out problem pols. It runs just
    beautifully in the anti-Trump MSM too - max
    coverage 24/7. At least HALF of today's meet
    with Trump and Merz was reporters obsessed
    by the Musk story. If MSM is obsessed, USE it.

    The BBB *is* a little TOO in some areas. Every pol
    tries to add THEIR pork to it - or to get revenge
    for whatever little shit they don't like. Something
    cleaner and mission-aware is needed. There's still
    time.

    If you get the 'MAGA' theme, the BBB needs to get
    more BACK to that without being needlessly damaging.
    Slash MediCare ? No NO !!! That's political DOOM.
    Everybody 65+ will immediately vote for Chairman
    Mao no matter what.

    Musk was super-into what was going on with the
    legislation all along. He KNEW some BBB provisions
    would COST him all along - and didn't CARE.

    A literal 48-hour super-break with Trump just does
    NOT seem real. A 'screenplay' is being created here.

    Yea, something doesn't seem correct here.
    The war of words HAS escalated today though and it's the lead story on
    the MSM morning shows along with trying once again to smear Trump
    with association to Epstein.



    When Trump ADMITS being friends with
    Epstein is that also an "MSM smear"?

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 7 03:07:36 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:101upk4$28sg9$[email protected]:

    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/5/25 10:25 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ummmmmmm ...

    Very suddenly there seems to be a huge split between
    Trump and Musk. Happy goodbye party just the other
    day, and now BOOM. Some of Musk's posts seem just
    EXTREME.

    Did Musk take a huge ketamine+Ambien+? soma holiday
    on leaving DOGE and is kinda literally out of his mind,
    'pink elephant' stuff ???

    Yep, Musk IS losing money because of the BBB and
    end of the mandated EV crap - but he's beyond
    rich, he can lose 100 bil and barely notice - and
    will remake it quick. Also, Musk KNEW this was
    all going to happen for quite awhile.

    SO ... my immediate take ... THIS IS SOME KIND OF
    POLITICAL THEATER - exact purpose to Trump and
    Musk is unclear, but it's just too-too, we cannot
    take what's being said at its face value.

    Both Trump and Musk are primo "salesmen" and
    understand the value of creating (maybe false)
    impressions in pursuit of less obvious agendas.


    I agree!
    Here's my theory up for discussion......

    1. What typically happens to people who cross Trump?
    Answer is they get attacked without mercy and in a huge way.

    2. What has happened to Musk?
    Pretty much nothing although today Trump did ramp up a little bit
    but still very tame.

    3. Why?

    My theory is, Trump is unhappy with the current state of the BBB,
    for whatever reason and this is his ticket to escape it in his
    current form and do a rewrite which more closely matches his
    policies.


    Just a theory I conjured up but it does seem plausible.


    As said, I suspect sophisticated 'theater' here.
    It all just smells of a PLAY - designed to shake
    up and shake out problem pols. It runs just
    beautifully in the anti-Trump MSM too - max
    coverage 24/7. At least HALF of today's meet
    with Trump and Merz was reporters obsessed
    by the Musk story. If MSM is obsessed, USE it.

    The BBB *is* a little TOO in some areas. Every pol
    tries to add THEIR pork to it - or to get revenge
    for whatever little shit they don't like. Something
    cleaner and mission-aware is needed. There's still
    time.

    If you get the 'MAGA' theme, the BBB needs to get
    more BACK to that without being needlessly damaging.
    Slash MediCare ? No NO !!! That's political DOOM.
    Everybody 65+ will immediately vote for Chairman
    Mao no matter what.

    Musk was super-into what was going on with the
    legislation all along. He KNEW some BBB provisions
    would COST him all along - and didn't CARE.

    A literal 48-hour super-break with Trump just does
    NOT seem real. A 'screenplay' is being created here.

    Yea, something doesn't seem correct here.
    The war of words HAS escalated today though and it's the lead story on
    the MSM morning shows along with trying once again to smear Trump
    with association to Epstein.



    When Trump ADMITS being friends with
    Epstein is that also an "MSM smear"?

    Lots of friends he had. Doesn't mean they went to any
    island.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Sat Jun 7 18:48:17 2025
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    On 2025-06-07, Skeeter OG <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:101upk4$28sg9$[email protected]:

    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/5/25 10:25 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ummmmmmm ...

    Very suddenly there seems to be a huge split between
    Trump and Musk. Happy goodbye party just the other
    day, and now BOOM. Some of Musk's posts seem just
    EXTREME.

    Did Musk take a huge ketamine+Ambien+? soma holiday
    on leaving DOGE and is kinda literally out of his mind,
    'pink elephant' stuff ???

    Yep, Musk IS losing money because of the BBB and
    end of the mandated EV crap - but he's beyond
    rich, he can lose 100 bil and barely notice - and
    will remake it quick. Also, Musk KNEW this was
    all going to happen for quite awhile.

    SO ... my immediate take ... THIS IS SOME KIND OF
    POLITICAL THEATER - exact purpose to Trump and
    Musk is unclear, but it's just too-too, we cannot
    take what's being said at its face value.

    Both Trump and Musk are primo "salesmen" and
    understand the value of creating (maybe false)
    impressions in pursuit of less obvious agendas.


    I agree!
    Here's my theory up for discussion......

    1. What typically happens to people who cross Trump?
    Answer is they get attacked without mercy and in a huge way.

    2. What has happened to Musk?
    Pretty much nothing although today Trump did ramp up a little bit
    but still very tame.

    3. Why?

    My theory is, Trump is unhappy with the current state of the BBB,
    for whatever reason and this is his ticket to escape it in his
    current form and do a rewrite which more closely matches his
    policies.


    Just a theory I conjured up but it does seem plausible.


    As said, I suspect sophisticated 'theater' here.
    It all just smells of a PLAY - designed to shake
    up and shake out problem pols. It runs just
    beautifully in the anti-Trump MSM too - max
    coverage 24/7. At least HALF of today's meet
    with Trump and Merz was reporters obsessed
    by the Musk story. If MSM is obsessed, USE it.

    The BBB *is* a little TOO in some areas. Every pol
    tries to add THEIR pork to it - or to get revenge
    for whatever little shit they don't like. Something
    cleaner and mission-aware is needed. There's still
    time.

    If you get the 'MAGA' theme, the BBB needs to get
    more BACK to that without being needlessly damaging.
    Slash MediCare ? No NO !!! That's political DOOM.
    Everybody 65+ will immediately vote for Chairman
    Mao no matter what.

    Musk was super-into what was going on with the
    legislation all along. He KNEW some BBB provisions
    would COST him all along - and didn't CARE.

    A literal 48-hour super-break with Trump just does
    NOT seem real. A 'screenplay' is being created here.

    Yea, something doesn't seem correct here.
    The war of words HAS escalated today though and it's the lead story on
    the MSM morning shows along with trying once again to smear Trump
    with association to Epstein.



    When Trump ADMITS being friends with
    Epstein is that also an "MSM smear"?

    Lots of friends he had. Doesn't mean they went to any
    island.

    Well Epstein's attorney has explicitly denied that Trump had anything to
    do Epstein and his prostitution ring.

    <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/06/epstein-attorney-drops-shocking-revelation-about-his-alleged/>

    Video here.

    <https://rumble.com/c/TheGatewayPundit>



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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to pothead on Sat Jun 7 14:20:42 2025
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    On 7/6/25 11:48, pothead wrote:
    When Trump ADMITS being friends with
    Epstein is that also an "MSM smear"?

    Lots of friends he had. Doesn't mean they went to any
    island.
    Well Epstein's attorney has explicitly denied that Trump had anything to
    do Epstein and his prostitution ring.

    Sounds like a deeply trustworthy person.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Jun 7 18:01:43 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    On 7/6/25 17:31, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 18:48:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-06-07, Skeeter OG <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:101upk4$28sg9$[email protected]:

    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/5/25 10:25 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ummmmmmm ...

    Very suddenly there seems to be a huge split between
    Trump and Musk. Happy goodbye party just the other
    day, and now BOOM. Some of Musk's posts seem just
    EXTREME.

    Did Musk take a huge ketamine+Ambien+? soma holiday
    on leaving DOGE and is kinda literally out of his mind,
    'pink elephant' stuff ???

    Yep, Musk IS losing money because of the BBB and
    end of the mandated EV crap - but he's beyond
    rich, he can lose 100 bil and barely notice - and
    will remake it quick. Also, Musk KNEW this was
    all going to happen for quite awhile.

    SO ... my immediate take ... THIS IS SOME KIND OF
    POLITICAL THEATER - exact purpose to Trump and
    Musk is unclear, but it's just too-too, we cannot
    take what's being said at its face value.

    Both Trump and Musk are primo "salesmen" and
    understand the value of creating (maybe false)
    impressions in pursuit of less obvious agendas.


    I agree!
    Here's my theory up for discussion......

    1. What typically happens to people who cross Trump?
    Answer is they get attacked without mercy and in a huge way.

    2. What has happened to Musk?
    Pretty much nothing although today Trump did ramp up a little bit >>>>>>> but still very tame.

    3. Why?

    My theory is, Trump is unhappy with the current state of the BBB, >>>>>>> for whatever reason and this is his ticket to escape it in his
    current form and do a rewrite which more closely matches his
    policies.


    Just a theory I conjured up but it does seem plausible.


    As said, I suspect sophisticated 'theater' here.
    It all just smells of a PLAY - designed to shake
    up and shake out problem pols. It runs just
    beautifully in the anti-Trump MSM too - max
    coverage 24/7. At least HALF of today's meet
    with Trump and Merz was reporters obsessed
    by the Musk story. If MSM is obsessed, USE it.

    The BBB *is* a little TOO in some areas. Every pol
    tries to add THEIR pork to it - or to get revenge
    for whatever little shit they don't like. Something
    cleaner and mission-aware is needed. There's still
    time.

    If you get the 'MAGA' theme, the BBB needs to get
    more BACK to that without being needlessly damaging.
    Slash MediCare ? No NO !!! That's political DOOM.
    Everybody 65+ will immediately vote for Chairman
    Mao no matter what.

    Musk was super-into what was going on with the
    legislation all along. He KNEW some BBB provisions
    would COST him all along - and didn't CARE.

    A literal 48-hour super-break with Trump just does
    NOT seem real. A 'screenplay' is being created here.

    Yea, something doesn't seem correct here.
    The war of words HAS escalated today though and it's the lead story on >>>>> the MSM morning shows along with trying once again to smear Trump
    with association to Epstein.



    When Trump ADMITS being friends with
    Epstein is that also an "MSM smear"?

    Lots of friends he had. Doesn't mean they went to any
    island.

    Well Epstein's attorney has explicitly denied that Trump had anything to
    do Epstein and his prostitution ring.

    As I recall, he also entered a plea of not guilty.

    <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com

    Is not to be trusted. Try a credible source, preferably two or three
    from different sources.

    Video here.

    <https://rumble.com/c/TheGatewayPundit>

    I'm not accepting anything from GP. They're liars and right wing
    hacks.

    That you accept them as a source of information you deem credible is certainly the reason you have so many insane opinions.



    Smells like Teen Logic.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to pothead on Sun Jun 8 01:35:27 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:10221hh$37oj3$[email protected]:

    On 2025-06-07, Skeeter OG <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:101upk4$28sg9$[email protected]:

    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/5/25 10:25 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ummmmmmm ...

    Very suddenly there seems to be a huge split between
    Trump and Musk. Happy goodbye party just the other
    day, and now BOOM. Some of Musk's posts seem just
    EXTREME.

    Did Musk take a huge ketamine+Ambien+? soma holiday
    on leaving DOGE and is kinda literally out of his mind,
    'pink elephant' stuff ???

    Yep, Musk IS losing money because of the BBB and
    end of the mandated EV crap - but he's beyond
    rich, he can lose 100 bil and barely notice - and
    will remake it quick. Also, Musk KNEW this was
    all going to happen for quite awhile.

    SO ... my immediate take ... THIS IS SOME KIND OF
    POLITICAL THEATER - exact purpose to Trump and
    Musk is unclear, but it's just too-too, we cannot
    take what's being said at its face value.

    Both Trump and Musk are primo "salesmen" and
    understand the value of creating (maybe false)
    impressions in pursuit of less obvious agendas.


    I agree!
    Here's my theory up for discussion......

    1. What typically happens to people who cross Trump?
    Answer is they get attacked without mercy and in a huge way.

    2. What has happened to Musk?
    Pretty much nothing although today Trump did ramp up a little
    bit but still very tame.

    3. Why?

    My theory is, Trump is unhappy with the current state of the
    BBB, for whatever reason and this is his ticket to escape it in
    his current form and do a rewrite which more closely matches his
    policies.


    Just a theory I conjured up but it does seem plausible.


    As said, I suspect sophisticated 'theater' here.
    It all just smells of a PLAY - designed to shake
    up and shake out problem pols. It runs just
    beautifully in the anti-Trump MSM too - max
    coverage 24/7. At least HALF of today's meet
    with Trump and Merz was reporters obsessed
    by the Musk story. If MSM is obsessed, USE it.

    The BBB *is* a little TOO in some areas. Every pol
    tries to add THEIR pork to it - or to get revenge
    for whatever little shit they don't like. Something
    cleaner and mission-aware is needed. There's still
    time.

    If you get the 'MAGA' theme, the BBB needs to get
    more BACK to that without being needlessly damaging.
    Slash MediCare ? No NO !!! That's political DOOM.
    Everybody 65+ will immediately vote for Chairman
    Mao no matter what.

    Musk was super-into what was going on with the
    legislation all along. He KNEW some BBB provisions
    would COST him all along - and didn't CARE.

    A literal 48-hour super-break with Trump just does
    NOT seem real. A 'screenplay' is being created here.

    Yea, something doesn't seem correct here.
    The war of words HAS escalated today though and it's the lead
    story on the MSM morning shows along with trying once again to
    smear Trump with association to Epstein.



    When Trump ADMITS being friends with
    Epstein is that also an "MSM smear"?

    Lots of friends he had. Doesn't mean they went to any
    island.

    Well Epstein's attorney has explicitly denied that Trump had anything
    to do Epstein and his prostitution ring.



    Donald Trump Named in Jeffrey Epstein Flight
    Logs Released by His Own Attorney General
    February 28, 2025

    President Donald Trump's name appears
    in Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs released
    by his own attorney general on Thursday,
    Feb. 27.

    PEOPLE reviewed the flight logs and found
    Trump's name a total of seven times. He
    was mentioned on page 24 of the first
    flight log, dated Oct. 11, 1993. He was
    also mentioned twice on page 27, along
    with his then-wife Marla Maples, their
    daughter Tiffany Trump and a nanny on
    May 15, 1994. All three of those dates
    had "JE" (Jeff Epstein) listed on the
    same flights as Trump. GM, possibly
    Ghislane Maxwell, was listed as a
    passenger on the October 1993 flight.

    The release of the files related to
    the financier accused of sex trafficking
    came a day after Attorney General Pam
    Bondi said on Fox News that the Justice
    Department was set to release flight
    logs and names of people associated with
    Epstein.

    "What you�re going to see ... is a
    lot of flight logs, a lot of names, a
    lot of information," Bondi told Jesse
    Watters. "But, it�s pretty sick what
    that man did, along with his co-
    defendant." https://people.com/donald-trump-named-in-jeffrey-epstein-flight-logs- released-by-his-own-attorney-general-11687947



    <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/06/epstein-attorney-drops-shocki ng-revelation-about-his-alleged/>

    Video here.

    <https://rumble.com/c/TheGatewayPundit>




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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Sun Jun 8 13:11:48 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    On 2025-06-08, Siri Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/6/25 17:31, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 18:48:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-06-07, Skeeter OG <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    pothead <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:101upk4$28sg9$[email protected]:

    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/5/25 10:25 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-06-06, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ummmmmmm ...

    Very suddenly there seems to be a huge split between
    Trump and Musk. Happy goodbye party just the other
    day, and now BOOM. Some of Musk's posts seem just
    EXTREME.

    Did Musk take a huge ketamine+Ambien+? soma holiday
    on leaving DOGE and is kinda literally out of his mind,
    'pink elephant' stuff ???

    Yep, Musk IS losing money because of the BBB and
    end of the mandated EV crap - but he's beyond
    rich, he can lose 100 bil and barely notice - and
    will remake it quick. Also, Musk KNEW this was
    all going to happen for quite awhile.

    SO ... my immediate take ... THIS IS SOME KIND OF
    POLITICAL THEATER - exact purpose to Trump and
    Musk is unclear, but it's just too-too, we cannot
    take what's being said at its face value.

    Both Trump and Musk are primo "salesmen" and
    understand the value of creating (maybe false)
    impressions in pursuit of less obvious agendas.


    I agree!
    Here's my theory up for discussion......

    1. What typically happens to people who cross Trump?
    Answer is they get attacked without mercy and in a huge way.

    2. What has happened to Musk?
    Pretty much nothing although today Trump did ramp up a little bit >>>>>>>> but still very tame.

    3. Why?

    My theory is, Trump is unhappy with the current state of the BBB, >>>>>>>> for whatever reason and this is his ticket to escape it in his >>>>>>>> current form and do a rewrite which more closely matches his
    policies.


    Just a theory I conjured up but it does seem plausible.


    As said, I suspect sophisticated 'theater' here.
    It all just smells of a PLAY - designed to shake
    up and shake out problem pols. It runs just
    beautifully in the anti-Trump MSM too - max
    coverage 24/7. At least HALF of today's meet
    with Trump and Merz was reporters obsessed
    by the Musk story. If MSM is obsessed, USE it.

    The BBB *is* a little TOO in some areas. Every pol
    tries to add THEIR pork to it - or to get revenge
    for whatever little shit they don't like. Something
    cleaner and mission-aware is needed. There's still
    time.

    If you get the 'MAGA' theme, the BBB needs to get
    more BACK to that without being needlessly damaging.
    Slash MediCare ? No NO !!! That's political DOOM.
    Everybody 65+ will immediately vote for Chairman
    Mao no matter what.

    Musk was super-into what was going on with the
    legislation all along. He KNEW some BBB provisions
    would COST him all along - and didn't CARE.

    A literal 48-hour super-break with Trump just does
    NOT seem real. A 'screenplay' is being created here.

    Yea, something doesn't seem correct here.
    The war of words HAS escalated today though and it's the lead story on >>>>>> the MSM morning shows along with trying once again to smear Trump
    with association to Epstein.



    When Trump ADMITS being friends with
    Epstein is that also an "MSM smear"?

    Lots of friends he had. Doesn't mean they went to any
    island.

    Well Epstein's attorney has explicitly denied that Trump had anything to >>> do Epstein and his prostitution ring.

    As I recall, he also entered a plea of not guilty.

    <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com

    Is not to be trusted. Try a credible source, preferably two or three
    from different sources.

    Video here.

    <https://rumble.com/c/TheGatewayPundit>

    I'm not accepting anything from GP. They're liars and right wing
    hacks.

    That you accept them as a source of information you deem credible is
    certainly the reason you have so many insane opinions.



    Smells like Teen Logic.

    Smells like the truth.
    So now Trump's arch enemy former attorney Michael Cohen is on record as saying Trump had nothing to do with Epstein's prostitution ring but like many others simply hitched a ride now and then on Epstein's plane.

    <https://youtu.be/sikOhwSkjgg?si=-AUJvkvEsW1pCPg4>

    And then there is common sense which is that if Trump was involved in
    Epstein's Island sex operation, it would have been leaked a LONG TIME AGO.

    Remember the Biden administration and democrats went after Trump for everything possible in order to shut him down.

    This would have done it for sure.
    Yet, nothing was released or leaked and that's because nothing exists.
    Yet another smear attempt against Trump has failed.

    You libtards really do need a new playbook.



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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to pothead on Sun Jun 8 06:26:54 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    On 8/6/25 6:11, pothead wrote:
    Smells like the truth.
    So now Trump's arch enemy former attorney Michael Cohen is on record as saying
    Trump had nothing to do with Epstein's prostitution ring but like many others simply hitched a ride now and then on Epstein's plane.

    Cohen is a convicted felon. You trust felons.

    And then there is common sense which is that if Trump was involved in Epstein's Island sex operation, it would have been leaked a LONG TIME AGO.

    You mean like if an associate accuses him?

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