• South Africa - 25 Million DEPEND on "Social Grants" to Live

    From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 28 23:09:04 2025
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    https://themercury.co.za/2025-05-28-over-25-million-south-africans-depend-on-social-grants-amid-rising-poverty/

    . . .

    Note, the total population is 63 million.

    So, this is a solid THIRD of the pop that'll likely
    die without "free money".

    Just saying ... this looks like a DYING country.

    The old Afrikaners, nasty as they were, ran
    things better.

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 28 23:35:37 2025
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    c186282 wrote:
    https://themercury.co.za/2025-05-28-over-25-million-south-africans-depend-on-social-grants-amid-rising-poverty/
    . . .

      Note, the total population is 63 million.

      So, this is a solid THIRD of the pop that'll likely
      die without "free money".

      Just saying ... this looks like a DYING country.

      The old Afrikaners, nasty as they were, ran
      things better.

    Better under Apartheid? REALLY?

    The whites did ok.

    You need a refresher

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid

    "compelling people to live in separate places defined
    by race"

    "he Population Registration Act of 1950, which
    formalised racial classification and introduced an
    identity card for all persons over the age of 18,
    specifying their racial group"

    "the Group Areas Act of 1950.[65] Until then, most
    settlements had people of different races living
    side by side. This Act put an end to diverse areas
    and determined where one lived according to race.
    Each race was allotted its own area, which was used
    in later years as a basis of forced removal. The
    Prevention of Illegal Squatting Act of 1951 allowed
    the government to demolish black shanty town slums
    and forced white employers to pay for the
    construction of housing for those black workers who
    were permitted to reside in cities otherwise reserved
    for whites. The Native Laws Amendment Act, 1952
    centralised and tightened pass laws so that blacks
    could not stay in urban areas longer than 72 hours
    without a permit"

    How about this one?

    "The Prohibition of Mixed Marriages Act of 1949
    prohibited marriage between persons of different
    races, and the Immorality Act of 1950 made sexual
    relations between whites and other races a criminal
    offence."


    Do tell us about how better it was under Afrikaners...

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Gronk on Thu May 29 01:57:07 2025
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    On 5/29/25 1:35 AM, Gronk wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    https://themercury.co.za/2025-05-28-over-25-million-south-africans-depend-on-social-grants-amid-rising-poverty/
    . . .

       Note, the total population is 63 million.

       So, this is a solid THIRD of the pop that'll likely
       die without "free money".

       Just saying ... this looks like a DYING country.

       The old Afrikaners, nasty as they were, ran
       things better.

    Better under Apartheid?  REALLY?


    Depends on your def of "better".

    More Wealth/Org ... yep, the old regime
    really DID do it better. Today's SA is
    headed towards the CRAPPER.

    Imagine some "perfect" solution ? Nope.
    None at all.

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 29 00:05:47 2025
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    c186282 wrote:
    On 5/29/25 1:35 AM, Gronk wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    https://themercury.co.za/2025-05-28-over-25-million-south-africans-depend-on-social-grants-amid-rising-poverty/
    . . .

       Note, the total population is 63 million.

       So, this is a solid THIRD of the pop that'll likely
       die without "free money".

       Just saying ... this looks like a DYING country.

       The old Afrikaners, nasty as they were, ran
       things better.

    Better under Apartheid?  REALLY?


      Depends on your def of "better".

    No, YOUR definition.

      More Wealth/Org ... yep, the old regime
      really DID do it better. Today's SA is

    As long as you were WHITE.

    Read it again and tell us apartheid was better:


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid

    "compelling people to live in separate places defined
    by race"

    "he Population Registration Act of 1950, which
    formalised racial classification and introduced an
    identity card for all persons over the age of 18,
    specifying their racial group"

    "the Group Areas Act of 1950.[65] Until then, most
    settlements had people of different races living
    side by side. This Act put an end to diverse areas
    and determined where one lived according to race.
    Each race was allotted its own area, which was used
    in later years as a basis of forced removal. The
    Prevention of Illegal Squatting Act of 1951 allowed
    the government to demolish black shanty town slums
    and forced white employers to pay for the
    construction of housing for those black workers who
    were permitted to reside in cities otherwise reserved
    for whites. The Native Laws Amendment Act, 1952
    centralised and tightened pass laws so that blacks
    could not stay in urban areas longer than 72 hours
    without a permit"

    How about this one?

    "The Prohibition of Mixed Marriages Act of 1949
    prohibited marriage between persons of different
    races, and the Immorality Act of 1950 made sexual
    relations between whites and other races a criminal
    offence."

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Gronk on Thu May 29 20:44:53 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 5/29/25 2:05 AM, Gronk wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    On 5/29/25 1:35 AM, Gronk wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    https://themercury.co.za/2025-05-28-over-25-million-south-africans-depend-on-social-grants-amid-rising-poverty/
    . . .

       Note, the total population is 63 million.

       So, this is a solid THIRD of the pop that'll likely
       die without "free money".

       Just saying ... this looks like a DYING country.

       The old Afrikaners, nasty as they were, ran
       things better.

    Better under Apartheid?  REALLY?


       Depends on your def of "better".

    No, YOUR definition.

       More Wealth/Org ... yep, the old regime
       really DID do it better. Today's SA is

    As long as you were WHITE.

    Though the racism was nasty, seems things
    were STILL better overall for 'blacks' too.
    More money, better org, less crime. Today's
    SA is falling apart - and it's getting VERY
    ugly whether you're 'white' 'black' or
    Martian 'green'.

    This is typical of sociopolitics - one extreme
    is replaced by another, by another. Almost pure
    luck if things settle in-between ... and that
    state is unstable, takes lots of work to fight
    the entropy. SA could have just delegited
    the racism, but it has gone further than that
    now. Ten years or so, back to endless tribal-
    based warfare again. Eventually the Chinese
    will just occupy the place, 'restore order'.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 29 19:07:51 2025
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    On 29/5/25 17:44, c186282 wrote:
    Though the racism was nasty, seems things
    were STILL better overall for 'blacks' too.
    More money, better org, less crime. Today's
    SA is falling apart - and it's getting VERY
    ugly whether you're 'white' 'black' or
    Martian 'green'.

    Nice to know you have a soft spot for slavery. Like the good
    slavery of America.

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Jun 1 23:27:36 2025
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    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Thu, 29 May 2025 19:07:51 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]>
    On 29/5/25 17:44, c186282 wrote:
    Though the racism was nasty, seems things
    were STILL better overall for 'blacks' too.
    More money, better org, less crime. Today's
    SA is falling apart - and it's getting VERY
    ugly whether you're 'white' 'black' or
    Martian 'green'.

    Nice to know you have a soft spot for slavery. Like the good
    slavery of America.

    He tries to pretend he's not racist but such blips as this show him
    false.

    "That's a big blip..."

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 1 23:28:30 2025
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    c186282 wrote:
    On 5/29/25 2:05 AM, Gronk wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    On 5/29/25 1:35 AM, Gronk wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    https://themercury.co.za/2025-05-28-over-25-million-south-africans-depend-on-social-grants-amid-rising-poverty/
    . . .
       Note, the total population is 63 million.

       So, this is a solid THIRD of the pop that'll likely
       die without "free money".

       Just saying ... this looks like a DYING country.

       The old Afrikaners, nasty as they were, ran
       things better.

    Better under Apartheid?  REALLY?

       Depends on your def of "better".

    No, YOUR definition.

       More Wealth/Org ... yep, the old regime
       really DID do it better. Today's SA is

    As long as you were WHITE.

      Though the racism was nasty, seems things
      were STILL better overall for 'blacks' too.
      More money, better org, less crime. Today's
      SA is falling apart - and it's getting VERY
      ugly whether you're 'white' 'black' or
      Martian 'green'.

    Cite required. Make sure it addresses some of these
    points


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid

    "compelling people to live in separate places defined
    by race"

    "he Population Registration Act of 1950, which
    formalised racial classification and introduced an
    identity card for all persons over the age of 18,
    specifying their racial group"

    "the Group Areas Act of 1950.[65] Until then, most
    settlements had people of different races living
    side by side. This Act put an end to diverse areas
    and determined where one lived according to race.
    Each race was allotted its own area, which was used
    in later years as a basis of forced removal. The
    Prevention of Illegal Squatting Act of 1951 allowed
    the government to demolish black shanty town slums
    and forced white employers to pay for the
    construction of housing for those black workers who
    were permitted to reside in cities otherwise reserved
    for whites. The Native Laws Amendment Act, 1952
    centralised and tightened pass laws so that blacks
    could not stay in urban areas longer than 72 hours
    without a permit"

    "The Prohibition of Mixed Marriages Act of 1949
    prohibited marriage between persons of different
    races, and the Immorality Act of 1950 made sexual
    relations between whites and other races a criminal
    offence."

    "Black people were not allowed to run businesses
    or professional practices in areas designated as
    "white South Africa" unless they had a permit..."

    "Police vans patrolled white areas to round up
    blacks without passes. Black people were not
    allowed to employ whites in white South Africa."


    https://www.britannica.com/topic/apartheid

    "apartheid, policy that governed relations
    between South Africa’s white minority and
    nonwhite majority for much of the latter half
    of the 20th century, sanctioning racial
    segregation and political and economic
    discrimination against nonwhites."

    "Separate educational standards were established
    for nonwhites. The Bantu Education Act (1953)
    provided for the creation of state-run schools,
    which Black children were required to attend,
    with the goal of training the children for the
    manual labour and menial jobs that the government
    deemed suitable for those of their race. "

    etc

    Come on cupcake, back up your claims apartheid
    was good for blacks

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