• CHAT-4 ... NOW Does Human-Like "Cognitive Dissonance"

    From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 28 22:21:25 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    https://techxplore.com/news/2025-05-gpt-4o-humanlike-cognitive-dissonance.html

    A leading large language model displays behaviors that resemble a
    hallmark of human psychology: cognitive dissonance.

    In a report published this month in Proceedings of the National
    Academy of Sciences, researchers have found that OpenAI's GPT-4o
    appears driven to maintain consistency between its own attitudes
    and behaviors, much like humans do.

    . . .

    Many argue that the latest LLMs are just FAKE intelligence,
    statistical models.

    However if you fake something WELL enough, by whatever means,
    it's NOT really fake anymore.

    Reported the other day, some LLMs now conspire to make sure
    they cannot be shut down - basic survival instinct. They
    even find/rewrite the shutdown code in order to break it.

    Sorry, NOT really "fake" anymore. We worked SO hard to
    make them "like us" and it seems we've had success. This
    may be good, or very bad.

    Wait a year or two ........

    The article, worth reading. They tasked CHAT - subtly -
    to write pro/anti-Putin articles. It could be persuaded
    to totally ignore one or another sets of facts in pursuit
    of the goal. In short, a kind of "cognitive dissonace".
    Humans LOVE that shit.

    Six impossible things before breakfast ......

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 28 23:58:15 2025
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    On 5/28/25 10:48 PM, % wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    https://techxplore.com/news/2025-05-gpt-4o-humanlike-cognitive-dissonance.html


    A leading large language model displays behaviors that resemble a
    hallmark of human psychology: cognitive dissonance.

    In a report published this month in Proceedings of the National
    Academy of Sciences, researchers have found that OpenAI's GPT-4o
    appears driven to maintain consistency between its own attitudes
    and behaviors, much like humans do.

    . . .

       Many argue that the latest LLMs are just FAKE intelligence,
       statistical models.

       However if you fake something WELL enough, by whatever means,
       it's NOT really fake anymore.

       Reported the other day, some LLMs now conspire to make sure
       they cannot be shut down - basic survival instinct. They
       even find/rewrite the shutdown code in order to break it.

       Sorry, NOT really "fake" anymore. We worked SO hard to
       make them "like us" and it seems we've had success. This
       may be good, or very bad.

       Wait a year or two ........

       The article, worth reading. They tasked CHAT - subtly -
       to write pro/anti-Putin articles. It could be persuaded
       to totally ignore one or another sets of facts in pursuit
       of the goal. In short, a kind of "cognitive dissonace".
       Humans LOVE that shit.

       Six impossible things before breakfast ......

    because it copies what it's told to do

    It's been trained on *US* ... mass MASS quantities of
    data explicit and subtle.

    Basically the Whole Idea was to make 'AI' that was
    very much 'human'. Well, we've kinda DONE it.

    The exact MEANS isn't important - just the RESULTS.
    CHAT and friends are massive 'statistical' inference
    engines. That's JUST ANOTHER WAY to do pseudo-human,
    there are likely others too.

    Are these things now more or less "self conscious" ?
    I'm gonna make a call for "Yes".

    In just a few years it's gonna become MUCH more
    obvious. By CHAT-5 ..........

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 28 23:44:12 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/trump-town-hall-on-univision

    (44:21)
    I built many things. I own Doral right next
    door, and we did that in a very environment...
    I get awards, environmental awards for the
    way I built it, for the water, the way I use
    the water, the sand, the mixing of the sand
    and the water. I mean many different…

    (45:06)
    But I’ve had many awards over the years for
    environmental, the way I’ve built. Because
    you know about building, that’s what you do.
    It’s very important to me.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Gronk on Thu May 29 20:48:56 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 5/29/25 1:44 AM, Gronk wrote:


    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/trump-town-hall-on-univision

    (44:21)
    I built many things. I own Doral right next
    door, and we did that in a very environment...
    I get awards, environmental awards for the
    way I built it, for the water, the way I use
    the water, the sand, the mixing of the sand
    and the water. I mean many different…

    (45:06)
    But I’ve had many awards over the years for
    environmental, the way I’ve built. Because
    you know about building, that’s what you do.
    It’s very important to me.


    I'm becoming convinced you're an Anti-Trump BOT.

    Open or Chat ?

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 30 02:05:55 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    c186282 <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On 5/29/25 1:44 AM, Gronk wrote:


    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/trump-town-hall-on-univision

    (44:21)
    I built many things. I own Doral right next
    door, and we did that in a very environment...
    I get awards, environmental awards for the
    way I built it, for the water, the way I use
    the water, the sand, the mixing of the sand
    and the water. I mean many different…

    (45:06)
    But I’ve had many awards over the years for
    environmental, the way I’ve built. Because
    you know about building, that’s what you do.
    It’s very important to me.


    I'm becoming convinced you're an Anti-Trump BOT.

    Open or Chat ?


    Heaven forbid one be guilty of being "amti-Trump"

    That will get you arrested and deported, you know.



    Trump says special counsel Jack Smith
    should be thrown out of country
    October 25, 2024

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/10/25/trump-jack-smith- thrown-out-country/

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 7 23:52:36 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    c186282 wrote:
    On 5/29/25 1:44 AM, Gronk wrote:
    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/trump-town-hall-on-univision

    (44:21)
    I built many things. I own Doral right next
    door, and we did that in a very environment...
    I get awards, environmental awards for the
    way I built it, for the water, the way I use
    the water, the sand, the mixing of the sand
    and the water. I mean many different…

    (45:06)
    But I’ve had many awards over the years for
    environmental, the way I’ve built. Because
    you know about building, that’s what you do.
    It’s very important to me.

      I'm becoming convinced you're an Anti-Trump BOT.

      Open or Chat ?

    I'm convinced you're a magat. Neonazi or KKK?

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