• Hilarious ! Spain/Portugal BROUGHT DOWN HARD By Greenies

    From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 24 02:23:55 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.eu, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14741839/ICE-Barbie-Kristi-Noem-sparks-liberal-meltdown-vulgar-two-word-post.html

    A warning to Britain: Brought to its knees by a crackpot,
    Net Zero-obsessed socialist government, dystopian Spain
    offers a chilling vision of our possible future

    . . .

    Short version, the multi-national power grid
    BLACKOUT was caused by the "Net-Zero" fanatics
    TRYING to run everything on their 'green' systems.

    Didn't even come close. Two entire countries
    offline for over 24 hours in some cases.

    I wonder how much FOOD rotted in unpowered
    freezers ? How many emergency cases couldn't
    get proper hospital services ? How much did
    biz and banks lose ?

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun May 25 22:11:43 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.eu, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 5/25/25 6:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 02:23:55 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14741839/ICE-Barbie-Kristi-Noem-sparks-liberal-meltdown-vulgar-two-word-post.html

    A warning to Britain: Brought to its knees by a crackpot,
    Net Zero-obsessed socialist government, dystopian Spain
    offers a chilling vision of our possible future

    . . .

    Short version, the multi-national power grid
    BLACKOUT was caused by the "Net-Zero" fanatics
    TRYING to run everything on their 'green' systems.

    Nothing to do with 'green' systems. The backbone is still fossil fuel
    and reliable hydro and lots of nuclear.


    Umm ... I didn't have the data to research the huge
    power outages, external entities did that. I'm just
    presenting their conclusion.

    Ultra-Woke/Green Spain - now oft described as a
    slow-motion disaster in progress - caused this.


    Didn't even come close. Two entire countries
    offline for over 24 hours in some cases.

    It wasn't a generation issue. Was a network management problem.

    No, it was a generation issue ... the 'green' systems
    could not cope. This caused a chain-reaction. Such things
    are not unknown with big power grids. They'll "upgrade"
    their networks, but then cause some NEW disaster their
    stuff can't cope with.

    Look, you need X-amount of power smoothly delivered. If
    you system can't provide that, even for few seconds, very
    bad things can happen. 'Emergent behavior' in intelligent
    power grids can be nasty. Large sections of the USA have
    suffered from such too.

    Hey, if you're gonna go ultra-'green' then MAKE DAMNED SURE
    your system CAN cope with every contingency.

    I wonder how much FOOD rotted in unpowered
    freezers ?

    None. The freezers are heavily insulated and although the food might
    have time to thaw, it won't have time to rot. Meat will probably be
    cheap for a while! ;)

    According to other news, a LOT of food rotted.
    Insulated or not, 24 hours was TOO long. Why
    are you making shit up ? Fanatic ???

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue May 27 23:24:52 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.eu, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 5/27/25 7:04 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 25 May 2025 22:11:43 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 5/25/25 6:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 02:23:55 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14741839/ICE-Barbie-Kristi-Noem-sparks-liberal-meltdown-vulgar-two-word-post.html

    A warning to Britain: Brought to its knees by a crackpot,
    Net Zero-obsessed socialist government, dystopian Spain
    offers a chilling vision of our possible future

    . . .

    Short version, the multi-national power grid
    BLACKOUT was caused by the "Net-Zero" fanatics
    TRYING to run everything on their 'green' systems.

    Nothing to do with 'green' systems. The backbone is still fossil fuel
    and reliable hydro and lots of nuclear.


    Umm ... I didn't have the data to research the huge
    power outages, external entities did that. I'm just
    presenting their conclusion.

    Ultra-Woke/Green Spain - now oft described as a
    slow-motion disaster in progress - caused this.

    It was, as I indicated, a control problem. There was no flaw with the
    green technologies but rather with control of the grid.

    Spain generates enough wind and solar to sell to France and Morocco.

    Didn't even come close. Two entire countries
    offline for over 24 hours in some cases.

    It wasn't a generation issue. Was a network management problem.

    No, it was a generation issue ... the 'green' systems
    could not cope. This caused a chain-reaction. Such things
    are not unknown with big power grids. They'll "upgrade"
    their networks, but then cause some NEW disaster their
    stuff can't cope with.

    "A few minutes before the outage, fluctuations were observed in the
    grid, and there was a spike in wind power generation, which had been
    very low until then. France suddenly stopped importing electricity
    from Spain, perhaps because it detected a problem in the peninsular
    grid, and this deepened the imbalance between supply and demand.

    "At that point, the few operating nuclear power plants received an
    overload signal. In accordance with protocol, control rods were
    inserted and they were automatically shut down.

    "But what was most surprising was the behaviour of solar
    photovoltaics, which dropped sharply from generating 18,000 MW to just
    8,000 MW in just a few seconds. Since the sun had not vanished, it
    must have been an automated command that switched off thousands of
    solar facilities."

    It was a grid management issue.

    Which will magically disappear ... right ? :-)

    Oh ye of excessive faith ...........

    Sorry, but 'green' CANNOT carry the load alone.

    Now I don't HATE 'green' - but DO keep it in its
    proper context. Think in a SANE fashion.

    Oh, and if you want anti-'green' then LOOK at
    the projected power load for all the "AI"
    centers .... like WOW ! .... they will need
    their own nuke plants .................

    You seem to be Gronking-out more and more every
    day laddie. Stage-4 TDS. When have you scheduled
    your mass-murder/suicide event hmmm ?

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed May 28 12:38:06 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.eu, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 28/5/25 9:40, Governor Swill wrote:
    It was a grid management issue.

    Which will magically disappear ... right ?:-)

    Oh ye of excessive faith ...........

    Sorry, but 'green' CANNOT carry the load alone.
    Believe what you want to, it won't change the facts or the laws of
    physics.


    Solar radiation is 1715 E14 Watts.
    Current electricity production is 6 E12 Watts.

    Nuclear, tidal, and geothermal are separate from solar.

    Depending on the maximum our technology can get from the sun, the
    sun alone (which includes biomass, solar, and wind) might be more
    than we need. How much 'green' can carry depends on far we can
    push technology.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu May 29 00:03:59 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.eu, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 5/28/25 12:40 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Tue, 27 May 2025 23:24:52 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 5/27/25 7:04 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 25 May 2025 22:11:43 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 5/25/25 6:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 02:23:55 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14741839/ICE-Barbie-Kristi-Noem-sparks-liberal-meltdown-vulgar-two-word-post.html

    A warning to Britain: Brought to its knees by a crackpot,
    Net Zero-obsessed socialist government, dystopian Spain
    offers a chilling vision of our possible future

    . . .

    Short version, the multi-national power grid
    BLACKOUT was caused by the "Net-Zero" fanatics
    TRYING to run everything on their 'green' systems.

    Nothing to do with 'green' systems. The backbone is still fossil fuel >>>>> and reliable hydro and lots of nuclear.


    Umm ... I didn't have the data to research the huge
    power outages, external entities did that. I'm just
    presenting their conclusion.

    Ultra-Woke/Green Spain - now oft described as a
    slow-motion disaster in progress - caused this.

    It was, as I indicated, a control problem. There was no flaw with the
    green technologies but rather with control of the grid.

    Spain generates enough wind and solar to sell to France and Morocco.

    Didn't even come close. Two entire countries
    offline for over 24 hours in some cases.

    It wasn't a generation issue. Was a network management problem.

    No, it was a generation issue ... the 'green' systems
    could not cope. This caused a chain-reaction. Such things
    are not unknown with big power grids. They'll "upgrade"
    their networks, but then cause some NEW disaster their
    stuff can't cope with.

    "A few minutes before the outage, fluctuations were observed in the
    grid, and there was a spike in wind power generation, which had been
    very low until then. France suddenly stopped importing electricity
    from Spain, perhaps because it detected a problem in the peninsular
    grid, and this deepened the imbalance between supply and demand.

    "At that point, the few operating nuclear power plants received an
    overload signal. In accordance with protocol, control rods were
    inserted and they were automatically shut down.

    "But what was most surprising was the behaviour of solar
    photovoltaics, which dropped sharply from generating 18,000 MW to just
    8,000 MW in just a few seconds. Since the sun had not vanished, it
    must have been an automated command that switched off thousands of
    solar facilities."

    It was a grid management issue.

    Which will magically disappear ... right ? :-)

    Oh ye of excessive faith ...........

    Sorry, but 'green' CANNOT carry the load alone.

    Believe what you want to, it won't change the facts or the laws of
    physics.


    Believe what you want to, it won't change the
    facts or the laws laws of physics.

    You become more and more swill-ish every day now
    that your faction is going down the toilet. Why
    should I even listen to you ???

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