• NASA Currently In Chaos - Not Sure WHO or WHAT is In Charge

    From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 17 01:00:13 2025
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    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/14/trump-space-policy-leadership-void-00349131

    The White House has galactic-sized plans for space. But no one
    seems to know who will carry them out.

    Space industry officials and Capitol Hill staffers describe a
    rudderless administration when it comes to space policy, with
    no single person driving the big shifts. This has left them
    confused about the White House’s priorities and their role
    in the process, even as President Donald Trump pushes to put
    humans back on the moon, land an astronaut on Mars and redefine
    American space power.

    “I don’t think there’s anybody in charge right now,” said
    one space industry official. “It’s just a lot of individuals
    trying to set individual goals and policies.”

    . . .

    Elon wants to forget the moon, go the long hard route
    straight to Mars. Oh yea, he has kinda the only rocket
    that can make that kinda practical.

    As posted earlier, Russia/China have formed a moon-base
    coalition - very NEAR timeframe - and it includes a
    Russian NUKE REACTOR to power it all. Dunno what they
    need with THAT much electricity, but it's probably
    not good. Killer lasers ??? China has the big rockets
    and Russia can offer at least in-orbit re-fueling.
    It can work.

    We DON'T know if the USA has been hiding ET tech
    or artifacts on the moon. However China is now
    kinda established there and SURELY knows. In any
    case, the moon, closer, has some decided military
    uses.

    Mars ... distant and a kind of POISONOUS world.
    NOT easy and NO clear goal/use at this time.
    Forget 'Artemis' ... a few people, a few MONTHS
    minimum, to Mars. It WILL take something very
    large like "StarShip" to make any of it practical.
    SO far they keep exploding ... NOT easy .....

    NASA, alas, is stuck in the middle of the undefined
    current politics. Who is in charge, money for WHAT,
    nobody has a clue.

    IMHO, the USA needs SOME kind of moon base kinda
    at the same time as China. It's political, not
    so much 'practical', but politics COUNT sometimes.

    The south pole, where there IS a little water, is
    the best position. The "base" only needs to house
    several people, pref from two or three nations,
    to be politically relevant. Get someone from
    the ESA, maybe even a Canadian, and a couple of
    USA-ians.

    Note, the DUST makes the moon EXTRA nasty - is
    abrasive, toxic, and gets into EVERYTHING. You
    wouldn't think dirt to be important, but it IS.
    Moon dust is kinda electrically charged - ATTRACTED
    to anything we put there. Made Apollo crews SICK
    and threatened air seals and equipment.

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 25 00:28:22 2025
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    c186282 wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/14/trump-space-policy-leadership-void-00349131


    The White House has galactic-sized plans for space. But no one
    seems to know who will carry them out.

    Space industry officials and Capitol Hill staffers describe a
    rudderless administration when it comes to space policy, with
    no single person driving the big shifts. This has left them
    confused about the White House’s priorities and their role
    in the process, even as President Donald Trump pushes to put
    humans back on the moon, land an astronaut on Mars and redefine
    American space power.

    “I don’t think there’s anybody in charge right now,” said
    one space industry official. “It’s just a lot of individuals
    trying to set individual goals and policies.”

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Gronk on Mon May 26 01:41:17 2025
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 5/25/25 2:28 AM, Gronk wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/14/trump-space-policy-leadership-void-00349131


    The White House has galactic-sized plans for space. But no one
    seems to know who will carry them out.

    Space industry officials and Capitol Hill staffers describe a
    rudderless administration when it comes to space policy, with
    no single person driving the big shifts. This has left them
    confused about the White House’s priorities and their role
    in the process, even as President Donald Trump pushes to put
    humans back on the moon, land an astronaut on Mars and redefine
    American space power.

    “I don’t think there’s anybody in charge right now,” said
    one space industry official. “It’s just a lot of individuals
    trying to set individual goals and policies.”


    Interesting non-response ..........

    The "upwards and onwards" paradigm DOES have
    value - but it's currently in flux/confusion.

    I suspect Musk kinda contaminated NASA with
    a "Mars First" thing - since HE has (or will
    eventually have) the main means of getting
    there.

    Frankly, the moon is more useful right now.
    Let's NOT cede it to China/Russia.

    The moon sucks. Mars sucks. Neither are good
    for humans or human needs. The moon is a lot
    CLOSER however ... concentrate THERE for now.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed May 28 02:39:37 2025
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    On 5/28/25 12:33 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 26 May 2025 01:41:17 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

    I suspect Musk kinda contaminated NASA with
    a "Mars First" thing - since HE has (or will
    eventually have) the main means of getting
    there.

    Frankly, the moon is more useful right now.
    Let's NOT cede it to China/Russia.

    The moon sucks. Mars sucks. Neither are good
    for humans or human needs. The moon is a lot
    CLOSER however ... concentrate THERE for now.

    You continually mark the frequent mistakes of this administration yet
    you still support it. I can only assume you're a white nationalist.

    They ALL make mistakes.

    And WHY do you assume I'm KKK ???????

    Kinda RACIST dude !

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