• Homo Erectus - Parts/Artifacts Found Underwater in Indonesia

    From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 23:45:59 2025
    XPost: alt.science, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    https://phys.org/news/2025-05-homo-erectus-seabed-archaeological-discoveries.html

    . . .

    Yea, yea, know the image the NAME suggests :-)

    Dunno, maybe they DID have boners most of
    the time :-)

    However HE were kind of the "fourth leg" of
    modern human development - indeed contemporary
    for a certain span. The "legs" are proto-humans
    from Africa plus Neanderthals and Denisovans
    and, harder to detect, HE - esp perhaps in south
    asia.

    Alas HE seemed to love the warmer/wetter climes,
    environments NOT so favorable for preserving
    fossils and DNA. We know a LOT more about the
    Neanderthals and Denisovans and proto-humans
    (about 300k years, east and north Africa).

    The latter HE were of modern human height. The
    brains were 'smaller', but maybe they USED them
    better so you can't judge IQ strictly from that.
    They persisted for about million years - WAY
    longer than "us".

    My good guess is that, esp in southeast asia,
    they ARE a part of the modern genome just like
    the Neanderthals and Denisovans. First place
    to look would be Oz abo's ... but we just do
    not HAVE enough HE data to see how much the
    influences may be.

    So, HE is the "mystery relative". With modern
    sea-level changes a LOT of their residual stuff
    may be UNDERWATER - as seen in the article.
    This is NOT GOOD for science.

    Somewhere, for sure, there are a few HE that
    went high altitude or out into more desert
    areas. Once found we WILL finally get that DNA
    and see how they fit into today's equation.

    The Denisovans were totally unknown until
    kind of recently. However NOW we can track
    their genes from north-central Asia all
    the way thru Tibet and S.China and indeed
    out into the Pacific islands. They had
    an EFFECT.

    Oh ... and any "God(s) Just ZAPPED modern
    humans into existence" - BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT
    and TRIPLE BULLSHIT ! It's been a long strange
    trip - hybrids of hybrids of hybrids. Strictly,
    "humans" don't exist as a real thing. We are
    STILL in flux.

    Oh, ever see the old "illustrations" of the
    Neanderthals - hairy vicious gorilla-looking.
    Hey, only modern Englishmen were modern-
    looking ! Recent research suggests the hair
    thing went away a LONG LONG time ago ... 'Lucy'
    maybe wasn't ideal for a bikini wax, but CLOSE :-)
    Neanderthals, eastern Europe, twilight, you
    probably couldn't tell them from the farm-boys.

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