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|
| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump
| said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking
| office
| ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/25/politics/fact-check-trump-ukraine-war>

--bks

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| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump
| said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking
| office

|
| Russian leader Vladimir Putin has declined to engage with a
| 22-point peace proposal drafted jointly by US Special Envoy
| Steve Witkoff, Ukrainian officials, and European partners,
| according to a Financial Times report published on May 17.
|
| Citing three sources familiar with the discussions, FT
| reports that senior Russian officials informed Witkoff last
| week that the Kremlin has no intention of negotiating on
| the basis of the proposed plan.
| ... <https://united24media.com/latest-news/ft-putin-rejects-peace-plan-backed-by-us-ukraine-and-europe-prompting-response-from-witkoff-8455>

--bks

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| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump
| said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking
| office

| Russian leader Vladimir Putin has declined to engage with a
| 22-point peace proposal drafted jointly by US Special Envoy
| Steve Witkoff, Ukrainian officials, and European partners,
| according to a Financial Times report published on May 17.

|
| Russia bombards Ukraine with drones hours after Trump
| announces talks with Putin
| ... <https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-bombards-ukraine-drones-hours-after-trump-announces-talks-putin>

--bks

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[email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:100f87j$2re$[email protected]:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump
| said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking
| office

| Russian leader Vladimir Putin has declined to engage with a
| 22-point peace proposal drafted jointly by US Special Envoy
| Steve Witkoff, Ukrainian officials, and European partners,
| according to a Financial Times report published on May 17.

|
| Russia bombards Ukraine with drones hours after Trump
| announces talks with Putin
| ...
<https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-bombards-ukraine-drones-hours-aft er-trump-announces-talks-putin>

--bks

"Putin denies it, I trust him"
- Trump -

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| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump
| said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking
| office

| Russian leader Vladimir Putin has declined to engage with a
| 22-point peace proposal drafted jointly by US Special Envoy
| Steve Witkoff, Ukrainian officials, and European partners,
| according to a Financial Times report published on May 17.

| Russia bombards Ukraine with drones hours after Trump
| announces talks with Putin

|
| Trump-Putin Call Yields No Immediate Breakthrough on
| Ukraine Cease-Fire
| ... <<https://www.wsj.com/world/trump-holds-call-with-russias-putin-on-ending-the-war-in-ukraine-d0d934af>

--bks

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Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump
| said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking
| office

| Russian leader Vladimir Putin has declined to engage with a
| 22-point peace proposal drafted jointly by US Special Envoy
| Steve Witkoff, Ukrainian officials, and European partners,
| according to a Financial Times report published on May 17.

| Russia bombards Ukraine with drones hours after Trump
| announces talks with Putin

| Trump-Putin Call Yields No Immediate Breakthrough on
| Ukraine Cease-Fire
| ... <<https://www.wsj.com/world/trump-holds-call-with-russias-putin-on-ending-the-war-in-ukraine-d0d934af>

Trump thinks he's chums with Putin :-D

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/vladimir-stop

"A ‘Vladimir, STOP!’ post on Truth Social appears to be Trump’s secret plan
revealed to end the war. We have never looked more foolish and pathetic,"
...

--
<Skyhook> Where is 'bavaria' proper? I thought it was austria.
-- Seen on #Linux

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[email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:100fu9g$440$[email protected]:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump
| said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking
| office

| Russian leader Vladimir Putin has declined to engage with a
| 22-point peace proposal drafted jointly by US Special Envoy
| Steve Witkoff, Ukrainian officials, and European partners,
| according to a Financial Times report published on May 17.

| Russia bombards Ukraine with drones hours after Trump
| announces talks with Putin

|
| Trump-Putin Call Yields No Immediate Breakthrough on
| Ukraine Cease-Fire
| ...
<<https://www.wsj.com/world/trump-holds-call-with-russias-putin-on-endi ng-the-war-in-ukraine-d0d934af>

--bks

America never accepted a "negotiation"
that resulted in an invading army keeping
American territory, why would Ukraine?

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| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump
| said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking
| office

|
| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory
|
| The U.S. president promised peace on day one. Now he's
| enabling Russia's advances.
| ... <https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/05/trump-russia-ukraine-putin-zelensky/682873/>

--bks

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Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

On Thu, 22 May 2025 00:08:09 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump >>>>>>>>>> | said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking >>>>>>>>>> | office

|
| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory
|
| The U.S. president promised peace on day one. Now he's
| enabling Russia's advances.
| ... >><https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/05/trump-russia-ukra >>ine-putin-zelensky/682873/>

--bks

He's now admitted failure and withdrawn the US from the peace process.

If Russia stops fighting there will be no more war.
If Ukraine stops fighting there will be no more Ukraine.

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| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump >>>>>>>>>>> | said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking >>>>>>>>>>> | office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

|
| Trump says Putin has 'gone absolutely CRAZY', considering
| more sanctions on Russia
| ... <https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/trump-says-putin-has-gone-absolutely-crazy-considering-more-sanctions-russia-2025-05-26/>

--bks

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[email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:1011lse$1mp$[email protected]:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump >>>>>>>>>>>> | said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before >>>>>>>>>>>> | taking office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

|
| Trump says Putin has 'gone absolutely CRAZY', considering
| more sanctions on Russia
| ...
<https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/trump-says-putin-has-gone-absolut ely-crazy-considering-more-sanctions-russia-2025-05-26/>

--bks

Trump's tariffs list is missing one big country: Russia
Apr 2, 2025

Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt told Axios
Wednesday that Russia was left off because
U.S. sanctions already "preclude any meaningful
trade." However, the U.S. still trades more with
Russia than with countries like Mauritius or
Brunei that did make Trump's tariffs list.

Even remote island territories like Tokelau
(pop. 1,500) in the South Pacific and Svalbard
(pop. 2,500) in the Arctic Circle � territories
of New Zealand and Norway, respectively �were
listed for tariffs. https://www.axios.com/2025/04/02/trump-tariffs-russia-ukraine-ceasefire

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On Mon, 26 May 2025 12:13:02 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump >>>>>>>>>>>> | said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking >>>>>>>>>>>> | office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

|
| Trump says Putin has 'gone absolutely CRAZY', considering
| more sanctions on Russia
| ...
<https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/trump-says-putin-has-gone-absolutely-crazy-considering-more-sanctions-russia-2025-05-26/>

--bks

How is that a lie exactly?
Your defense of your leader Putin is noted.

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| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>> | said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking >>>>>>>>>>>>> | office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

|
| President Donald Trump lashed out at the Kremlin on Tuesday
| for its unwillingness to negotiate a ceasefire with Ukraine
| as he continued to consider increased sanctions against
| Russia, an escalation from his previously friendly tone
| toward Vladimir Putin that came as the president appeared
| to grow gloomier about his ability to broker peace in
| Ukraine.
| ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/05/27/trump-putin-ukraine-sanctions-ceasefire/>

--bks

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[email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:1016t2r$2t4$[email protected]:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

|
| President Donald Trump lashed out at the Kremlin on Tuesday
| for its unwillingness to negotiate a ceasefire with Ukraine
| as he continued to consider increased sanctions against
| Russia, an escalation from his previously friendly tone
| toward Vladimir Putin that came as the president appeared
| to grow gloomier about his ability to broker peace in
| Ukraine.
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/05/27/trump-putin-ukraine -sanctions-ceasefire/>

--bks

Putin has stated that any peace deal
must leave Russia with all the parts of
Ukraine it currently occupies. Of course
Zelenski is not going to accept that.

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| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

|
| It's been a long two weeks.
|
| Since at least the end of April, President Donald Trump has
| been telling reporters he will decide what to do in Ukraine
| in two weeks, using the timeframe over and over to suggest
| he is close to a final assessment on how to proceed.
|
| It is not a new tactic. Trump has been setting two-week
| deadlines since at least the start of his first term in
| 2017 -- for policy plans, long-awaited decisions or
| unspecified major announcements. Many never arrived.
| ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/28/politics/two-weeks-trump-ukraine-war>

--bks

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Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

| It's been a long two weeks.
|
| Since at least the end of April, President Donald Trump has
| been telling reporters he will decide what to do in Ukraine
| in two weeks, using the timeframe over and over to suggest
| he is close to a final assessment on how to proceed.
|
| It is not a new tactic. Trump has been setting two-week
| deadlines since at least the start of his first term in
| 2017 -- for policy plans, long-awaited decisions or
| unspecified major announcements. Many never arrived.
| ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/28/politics/two-weeks-trump-ukraine-war>

"Two weeks" is the estimate programmer's always give to the boss...
over and over again. :-D

--
All progress is based upon a universal innate desire of every organism
to live beyond its income.
-- Samuel Butler, "Notebooks"

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On 29/5/25 4:24, [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

|
| It's been a long two weeks.
|
| Since at least the end of April, President Donald Trump has
| been telling reporters he will decide what to do in Ukraine
| in two weeks, using the timeframe over and over to suggest
| he is close to a final assessment on how to proceed.
|
| It is not a new tactic. Trump has been setting two-week
| deadlines since at least the start of his first term in
| 2017 -- for policy plans, long-awaited decisions or
| unspecified major announcements. Many never arrived.
| ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/28/politics/two-weeks-trump-ukraine-war>

--bks

Navel inspection is time consuming.

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On 29/5/25 5:21, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

| It's been a long two weeks.
|
| Since at least the end of April, President Donald Trump has
| been telling reporters he will decide what to do in Ukraine
| in two weeks, using the timeframe over and over to suggest
| he is close to a final assessment on how to proceed.
|
| It is not a new tactic. Trump has been setting two-week
| deadlines since at least the start of his first term in
| 2017 -- for policy plans, long-awaited decisions or
| unspecified major announcements. Many never arrived.
| ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/28/politics/two-weeks-trump-ukraine-war>

"Two weeks" is the estimate programmer's always give to the boss...
over and over again. :-D

I never did that. I assured them it would be real soon now.

--
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'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
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Siri Cruz <[email protected]> wrote in news:1019kl4$3s5dv$2@dont-
email.me:

On 29/5/25 4:24, [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

|
| It's been a long two weeks.
|
| Since at least the end of April, President Donald Trump has
| been telling reporters he will decide what to do in Ukraine
| in two weeks, using the timeframe over and over to suggest
| he is close to a final assessment on how to proceed.
|
| It is not a new tactic. Trump has been setting two-week
| deadlines since at least the start of his first term in
| 2017 -- for policy plans, long-awaited decisions or
| unspecified major announcements. Many never arrived.
| ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/28/politics/two-weeks-trump-ukraine-war>

--bks

Navel inspection is time consuming.

Trump always deflects questions he
cannot answer with "of course I am right,
I will be present my plan shortly".







Melania Trump will address immigration
controversy, Donald Trump says
Aug 9 2016

Fayetteville, North Carolina (CNN)Donald Trump
announced Tuesday evening that his wife will
hold a news conference "over the next couple of
weeks" to address reports that she violated
immigration laws when she first came to the U.S.

"They said my wife, Melania, might have come in
illegally. Can you believe that one?" Donald Trump
told his supporters Tuesday. "Let me tell you one
thing. She has got it so documented, so she's going
to have a little news conference over the next
couple of weeks."
http://tinyurl.com/hxn3okk


Said news conference never happened......

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Siri Cruz wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

On 29/5/25 5:21, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

| It's been a long two weeks.
|
| Since at least the end of April, President Donald Trump has
| been telling reporters he will decide what to do in Ukraine
| in two weeks, using the timeframe over and over to suggest
| he is close to a final assessment on how to proceed.
|
| It is not a new tactic. Trump has been setting two-week
| deadlines since at least the start of his first term in
| 2017 -- for policy plans, long-awaited decisions or
| unspecified major announcements. Many never arrived.
| ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/28/politics/two-weeks-trump-ukraine-war>

"Two weeks" is the estimate programmer's always give to the boss...
over and over again. :-D

I never did that. I assured them it would be real soon now.

Real Soon Now.

Heh heh:

--
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-- Aristotle

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On 5/29/2025 5:21 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

| It's been a long two weeks.
|
| Since at least the end of April, President Donald Trump has
| been telling reporters he will decide what to do in Ukraine
| in two weeks, using the timeframe over and over to suggest
| he is close to a final assessment on how to proceed.
|
| It is not a new tactic. Trump has been setting two-week
| deadlines since at least the start of his first term in
| 2017 -- for policy plans, long-awaited decisions or
| unspecified major announcements. Many never arrived.
| ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/28/politics/two-weeks-trump-ukraine-war>

"Two weeks" is the estimate programmer's always give to the boss...
over and over again. :-D

In 1998, I gave an estimate of three months to my client (medium size reinsurance company) to make their systems Y2K ready, if they would let me bring
on one additional contractor. He and I got it done in a little over two months. One program (check printing — kind of important ;-) ) had a bug the first time
it ran in production.

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On 29/5/25 6:30, Mitchell Holman wrote:

"They said my wife, Melania, might have come in
illegally. Can you believe that one?" Donald Trump
told his supporters Tuesday. "Let me tell you one
thing. She has got it so documented, so she's going
to have a little news conference over the next
couple of weeks."
http://tinyurl.com/hxn3okk

Said news conference never happened......

Not that I am upset with her. She came her to work, but maybe a
few trivial paper issues.

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Siri Cruz <[email protected]> wrote in news:101a72t$1u6$[email protected]:

On 29/5/25 6:30, Mitchell Holman wrote:

"They said my wife, Melania, might have come in
illegally. Can you believe that one?" Donald Trump
told his supporters Tuesday. "Let me tell you one
thing. She has got it so documented, so she's going
to have a little news conference over the next
couple of weeks."
http://tinyurl.com/hxn3okk


Said news conference never happened......

Not that I am upset with her. She came her to work, but maybe a
few trivial paper issues.

She came on a tourist visa, promptly
took on modeling jobs. Just the sort of
"immigrants breaking our laws" that Trump
complains about.

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On Thu, 29 May 2025 11:24:47 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

|
| It's been a long two weeks.
|
| Since at least the end of April, President Donald Trump has
| been telling reporters he will decide what to do in Ukraine
| in two weeks, using the timeframe over and over to suggest
| he is close to a final assessment on how to proceed.
|
| It is not a new tactic. Trump has been setting two-week
| deadlines since at least the start of his first term in
| 2017 -- for policy plans, long-awaited decisions or
| unspecified major announcements. Many never arrived.
| ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/28/politics/two-weeks-trump-ukraine-war>

--bks

Do you have indication that he has NOT decided what to do with the
situation?

Both you and CNN are pure comedic gold.

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On Fri, 30 May 2025 07:15:52 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

On Thu, 29 May 2025 11:24:47 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

|
| It's been a long two weeks.
|
| Since at least the end of April, President Donald Trump has
| been telling reporters he will decide what to do in Ukraine
| in two weeks, using the timeframe over and over to suggest
| he is close to a final assessment on how to proceed.
|
| It is not a new tactic. Trump has been setting two-week
| deadlines since at least the start of his first term in
| 2017 -- for policy plans, long-awaited decisions or
| unspecified major announcements. Many never arrived.
| ... >><https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/28/politics/two-weeks-trump-ukraine-war>

--bks

Do you have indication that he has NOT decided what to do with the
situation?

Both you and CNN are pure comedic gold.

And Bradley runs away from more lies.

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| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump
| said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking
| office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

| It is not a new tactic. Trump has been setting two-week
| deadlines since at least the start of his first term in
| 2017 -- for policy plans, long-awaited decisions or
| unspecified major announcements. Many never arrived.

Just plain nuts:
|
| Trump silent on Ukraine drone attacks as MAGA blames "Deep
| State"
| ...
<https://www.axios.com/2025/06/02/trump-ukraine-drone-operation-maga>

--bks

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Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump
| said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking >>>>>>>>> | office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

| It is not a new tactic. Trump has been setting two-week
| deadlines since at least the start of his first term in
| 2017 -- for policy plans, long-awaited decisions or
| unspecified major announcements. Many never arrived.

Just plain nuts:
|
| Trump silent on Ukraine drone attacks as MAGA blames "Deep
| State"
| ...
<https://www.axios.com/2025/06/02/trump-ukraine-drone-operation-maga>

What they're saying: Pro-Trump influencer Jack Posobiec speculated on Steve
Bannon's "War Room" Monday about whether the Biden administration could
have been involved in the operation, given that planning began 18 months
ago.

"Seems very much on the interior of Russia. I sure hope America had nothing
to do with it," said Charlie Kirk, a top MAGA activist with close White
House ties.

Biden!

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Chris Ahlstrom <[email protected]> wrote in news:101n6k4$454u$[email protected]:

Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump >>>>>>>>>> | said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking >>>>>>>>>> | office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

| It is not a new tactic. Trump has been setting two-week
| deadlines since at least the start of his first term in
| 2017 -- for policy plans, long-awaited decisions or
| unspecified major announcements. Many never arrived.

Just plain nuts:
|
| Trump silent on Ukraine drone attacks as MAGA blames "Deep
| State"
| ...
<https://www.axios.com/2025/06/02/trump-ukraine-drone-operation-maga>

What they're saying: Pro-Trump influencer Jack Posobiec speculated
on Steve Bannon's "War Room" Monday about whether the Biden
administration could have been involved in the operation, given
that planning began 18 months ago.

"Seems very much on the interior of Russia. I sure hope America
had nothing to do with it," said Charlie Kirk, a top MAGA activist
with close White House ties.

Biden!

Some of us remember the flurry over
the Bay of Pigs fiasco, how it was put
together under Eisenhower and urged on
the incoming JFK by Ike's staff with lots
of Pentagon assurances.

In the end JFK ordered it to proceed
and then took responsibility for its failure,
no blaming the prior administration.

That is real leadership in action.





"The final responsibility for the failure of the
Bay of Pigs invasion was mine and mine alone."
John F. Kennedy, 1961

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Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

Chris Ahlstrom <[email protected]> wrote in news:101n6k4$454u$[email protected]:

Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump >>>>>>>>>>> | said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking >>>>>>>>>>> | office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

| It is not a new tactic. Trump has been setting two-week
| deadlines since at least the start of his first term in
| 2017 -- for policy plans, long-awaited decisions or
| unspecified major announcements. Many never arrived.

Just plain nuts:
|
| Trump silent on Ukraine drone attacks as MAGA blames "Deep
| State"
| ...
<https://www.axios.com/2025/06/02/trump-ukraine-drone-operation-maga>

What they're saying: Pro-Trump influencer Jack Posobiec speculated
on Steve Bannon's "War Room" Monday about whether the Biden
administration could have been involved in the operation, given
that planning began 18 months ago.

"Seems very much on the interior of Russia. I sure hope America
had nothing to do with it," said Charlie Kirk, a top MAGA activist
with close White House ties.

Biden!

Some of us remember the flurry over the Bay of Pigs fiasco, how it was
put together under Eisenhower and urged on the incoming JFK by Ike's
staff with lots of Pentagon assurances.

In the end JFK ordered it to proceed and then took responsibility for its
failure, no blaming the prior administration.

That is real leadership in action.

"The final responsibility for the failure of the Bay of Pigs invasion was mine and mine alone."
John F. Kennedy, 1961

Trump: "The bucks stop here." :-D

--
Grub first, then ethics.
-- Bertolt Brecht

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| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump >>>>>>>>>>>> | said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking >>>>>>>>>>>> | office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

| It is not a new tactic. Trump has been setting two-week
| deadlines since at least the start of his first term in
| 2017 -- for policy plans, long-awaited decisions or
| unspecified major announcements. Many never arrived.

|
| Putin unleashes a summer offensive to break Ukraine
|
| His killing machine has been told to deliver a glorious
| victory at any cost
| ... <https://www.economist.com/europe/2025/06/08/putin-unleashes-a-summer-offensive-to-break-ukraine>

--bks

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On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 11:21:08 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>> | said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking >>>>>>>>>>>>> | office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

| It is not a new tactic. Trump has been setting two-week
| deadlines since at least the start of his first term in
| 2017 -- for policy plans, long-awaited decisions or
| unspecified major announcements. Many never arrived.

|
| Putin unleashes a summer offensive to break Ukraine
|
| His killing machine has been told to deliver a glorious
| victory at any cost
| ...
<https://www.economist.com/europe/2025/06/08/putin-unleashes-a-summer-offensive-to-break-ukraine>

--bks

What does this have to do with "Trump lies"?

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| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump >>>>>>>>>>>> | said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking >>>>>>>>>>>> | office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

|
| 'Basically impossible to get them back': Russia's mass
| abduction of Ukrainian children is a war crime, say experts
|
| As territories shift and divide families, desperate parents
| are travelling to Russia to find their children, many of
| whom have been moved into military camps or orphanages
| ... <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/27/russia-ukrainian-children-abduction-war-crime>

--bks

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| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>> | said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking >>>>>>>>>>>>> | office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

|
| Russia launches the biggest aerial attack since the start
| of the war, Ukraine says
| ... <https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-biggest-aerial-attack-9fda235a9345d506cf6c796ddfa80e33>

--bks

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| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

| Russia launches the biggest aerial attack since the start
| of the war, Ukraine says

|
| The Kremlin on Wednesday welcomed Washington's decision to
| pause some weapons shipments to Ukraine, saying reduced
| military support for Kyiv would bring Russia closer to its
| goals in the war.
| ... <https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/07/02/kremlin-welcomes-halt-in-us-arms-shipments-to-ukraine-a89648>

Confirmation: <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/pentagon-halts-weapons-shipment-ukraine-concerns-us-stockpile-rcna216358>

--bks

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[email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:104348c$64s$[email protected]:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

| Russia launches the biggest aerial attack since the start
| of the war, Ukraine says

|
| The Kremlin on Wednesday welcomed Washington's decision to
| pause some weapons shipments to Ukraine, saying reduced
| military support for Kyiv would bring Russia closer to its
| goals in the war.
| ...
<https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/07/02/kremlin-welcomes-halt-in-us- arms-shipments-to-ukraine-a89648>

Confirmation: <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/pentagon-halts-weap ons-shipment-ukraine-concerns-us-stockpile-rcna216358>

--bks

"Putin denies it, I trust him"
- Trump

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| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

| Russia launches the biggest aerial attack since the start
| of the war, Ukraine says

| ...
| Trump last night overruled his skeptical Pentagon chiefs
| and restored U.S. weapons shipments to Kyiv in a dramatic
| shift of position on the Ukraine war. The president told
| White House reporters that the Ukrainian people "have to be
| able to defend themselves" after "getting hit very hard" by
| recent Russian onslaughts. "We're going to send some more
| weapons -- defensive weapons primarily," Trump said.
| ...
| It's especially painful for Hegseth, who was already
| damaged goods in the eyes of the White House following a
| series of public missteps. The warning signs were there
| when reports first emerged that much of the Trump
| administration -- including Marco Rubio's State Department
| -- had been blindsided by his decision. Then NBC revealed
| the stated reason behind the halt in shipments was flimsy,
| at best. Things got even worse last night when the WSJ
| reported how Trump told Ukraine President Volodymyr
| Zelenskyy in a phone call last Friday that he had not
| actually signed the decision off.
| ... <https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2025/07/08/trump-vs-maga-00441974>

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[email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:104j0p8$bbp$[email protected]:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| Trump Hands Putin Another Victory

| Russia launches the biggest aerial attack since the start
| of the war, Ukraine says

| ...
| Trump last night overruled his skeptical Pentagon chiefs
| and restored U.S. weapons shipments to Kyiv in a dramatic
| shift of position on the Ukraine war. The president told
| White House reporters that the Ukrainian people "have to be
| able to defend themselves" after "getting hit very hard" by
| recent Russian onslaughts. "We're going to send some more
| weapons -- defensive weapons primarily," Trump said.
| ...
| It's especially painful for Hegseth, who was already
| damaged goods in the eyes of the White House following a
| series of public missteps. The warning signs were there
| when reports first emerged that much of the Trump
| administration -- including Marco Rubio's State Department
| -- had been blindsided by his decision. Then NBC revealed
| the stated reason behind the halt in shipments was flimsy,
| at best. Things got even worse last night when the WSJ
| reported how Trump told Ukraine President Volodymyr
| Zelenskyy in a phone call last Friday that he had not
| actually signed the decision off.
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2025/07/08/trump-vs-maga -00441974>

Typical Trump. Consults with no one, issues
a blanket decision that affects millions because
he has a 3:AM brain fart. After all, he is the
smartest guy in the room and knows more than
anyone about everything.





Military officials blindsided by
Trump announcement of early US
troop withdrawal from Afghanistan
Oct 8, 2020

The U.S. military was blindsided
Thursday by President Donald Trump�s
assertion that all U.S. troops will
be out of Afghanistan by the end of
the year, with U.S. officials saying
they are not aware of such a plan and
have gotten no actual order to
accelerate the more gradual pullout
they�ve been executing.

Trump�s comments, laid out in a
confusing progression of comments and
a tweet, alarmed Pentagon and State
officials who fear that putting a
definitive date on troop withdrawal
could undercut negotiations to finalize
a peace deal between the Taliban and the
Afghan government. They also fear a hasty
withdrawal could force the U.S. to leave
behind sensitive military equipment.
https://tinyurl.com/39z4wzrh

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Bradley K. Sherman, <news:104j0p8$bbp$[email protected]>

| Trump last night overruled his skeptical Pentagon chiefs
| and restored U.S. weapons shipments to Kyiv in a dramatic
| shift of position on the Ukraine war. The president told
| White House reporters that the Ukrainian people "have to be
| able to defend themselves" after "getting hit very hard" by
| recent Russian onslaughts. "We're going to send some more
| weapons -- defensive weapons primarily," Trump said.

So it is becoming Trump's war not Biden's war. It will tangibly
take resources. US involvement may somehow complicate Russia's
operation, but Trump will be unable to win it, he will look like
a loser. MAGA no more. The mature Asian powers will become major
beneficiaries from the mess, aggravating the American decline.

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[email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

|
| 'Not our war' - Trump's Nato weapons deal for Ukraine
| sparks MAGA anger
| ...
<https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c14e2ydv4d6o>

--bks

TACO finally woke up that old Europe is not waiting for USA; they are
using this to build up their own gunrunning and grabbing our market. He
has to participate to profit.

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Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
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| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

|
| 'Not our war' - Trump's Nato weapons deal for Ukraine
| sparks MAGA anger
| ...
<https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c14e2ydv4d6o>

--bks

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| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| 'Not our war' - Trump's Nato weapons deal for Ukraine
| sparks MAGA anger

|
| Maga stalwart Marjorie Taylor Greene criticizes Trump over
| Ukraine arms shipments
|
| 'MAGA did not vote for more weapons to Ukraine,' the
| Georgia congresswoman wrote on X
| ... <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/15/marjorie-taylor-greene-ukraine-war>

--bks

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chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

[email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| 'Not our war' - Trump's Nato weapons deal for Ukraine
| sparks MAGA anger
| ...
<https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c14e2ydv4d6o>

TACO finally woke up that old Europe is not waiting for USA; they are
using this to build up their own gunrunning and grabbing our market. He
has to participate to profit.

That checks.

--
Once upon a time there was a beautiful young girl taking a stroll through the woods. All at once she saw an extremely ugly bull frog seated
on a log and to her amazement the frog spoke to her. "Maiden," croaked the frog, "would you do me a favor? This will be hard for you to believe, but
I was once a handsome, charming prince and then a mean, ugly old witch cast
a spell over me and turned me into a frog."
"Oh, what a pity!", exclaimed the girl. "I'll do anything I can to help you break such a spell."
"Well," replied the frog, "the only way that this spell can be
taken away is for some lovely young woman to take me home and let me spend
the night under her pillow."
The young girl took the ugly frog home and placed him beneath her pillow that night when she retired. When she awoke the next morning, sure enough, there beside her in bed was a very young, handsome man, clearly of royal blood. And so they lived happily ever after, except that to this day
her father and mother still don't believe her story.

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Chris Ahlstrom <[email protected]> wrote in news:1055uca$5nqq$1@dont- email.me:

chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

[email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

| 'Not our war' - Trump's Nato weapons deal for Ukraine
| sparks MAGA anger
| ...
<https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c14e2ydv4d6o>

TACO finally woke up that old Europe is not waiting for USA; they are
using this to build up their own gunrunning and grabbing our market. He
has to participate to profit.

That checks.

"War is good for profits"
Ferengi Rules of Acquisition

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On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 14:53:08 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

This just in:
|
| Kremlin officials decisively rejected US President Donald
| Trump's new deadline for Russia to negotiate an end to its
| war against Ukraine and reiterated Moscow's interest in
| continuing the war.
| ...
<https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-july-29-2025>

--bks

No lie demonstrated but chalk up another lie in YOUR count.

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On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 07:06:57 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 14:53:08 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

| Fact check: It wasn't 'in jest.' Here are 53 times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump said he'd end Ukraine war within 24 hours or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | before taking office

This just in:
|
| Kremlin officials decisively rejected US President Donald
| Trump's new deadline for Russia to negotiate an end to its
| war against Ukraine and reiterated Moscow's interest in
| continuing the war.
| ... >><https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-july-29-2025>

--bks

No lie demonstrated but chalk up another lie in YOUR count.

Now Bradley runs away...

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