Modern US presidents seem to rely more and more
on rule-by-fiat ... executive orders and similar.
IMHO this is NOT a great trend - no matter the
party holding the office at the moment.
The preferred approach is for for the legislature
to be responsive and draft laws/reg ... then the
POTUS either signs or vetoes.
XOs *do* have a certain place - mostly for time-
critical 'emergency' situations ... the legislative
process there may simply be TOO slow.
I'm going to propose a law that puts a rather
strict time-limit on XOs. Within 30 days the
Congress must vote it up or down - straight
simple majority vote. If they do nothing then
the order simply expires. If this gakes a
monthly "XO Afternoon" of voting then so be it.
This gives the POTUS the needed 'emergency' powers
but leaves the legislature to make the longer-term
decision.
Oh, no repeated XOs on the same subject ...
In just the past few years we've seen both Joe
and Trump kinda go wild with XOs. They won't be
the last either - UNLESS ......
In the end, the Congress/Senate SHOULD have the
most ultimate political power - it's best for
the USA. That's part of the MAGA thing.
c186282 <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
Modern US presidents seem to rely more and more
on rule-by-fiat ... executive orders and similar.
IMHO this is NOT a great trend - no matter the
party holding the office at the moment.
The preferred approach is for for the legislature
to be responsive and draft laws/reg ... then the
POTUS either signs or vetoes.
XOs *do* have a certain place - mostly for time-
critical 'emergency' situations ... the legislative
process there may simply be TOO slow.
I'm going to propose a law that puts a rather
strict time-limit on XOs. Within 30 days the
Congress must vote it up or down - straight
simple majority vote. If they do nothing then
the order simply expires. If this gakes a
monthly "XO Afternoon" of voting then so be it.
This gives the POTUS the needed 'emergency' powers
but leaves the legislature to make the longer-term
decision.
Oh, no repeated XOs on the same subject ...
In just the past few years we've seen both Joe
and Trump kinda go wild with XOs. They won't be
the last either - UNLESS ......
In the end, the Congress/Senate SHOULD have the
most ultimate political power - it's best for
the USA. That's part of the MAGA thing.
Until Congress gets its act together and codifies any of the good XOs, they can be changed by new presidents. IMO there is little incentive for life long congressional beaurocrats to do anything productive except further
their own interests, like getting election funding from the military
complex and the deep state. Your suggestion of slowing XOs would prevent good policies from any president. Everyone loves enacting bad policies because they hurt people enough to vote for the government to promise to do something good, and they never will. IMHO all levels of government no
longer serve The People. Sadly this does not bode well for the longevity
of the USA. The party doesn't matter any more. Once in the government the elected have achieved their goals and are unable to do good before
becomming "part of the system". What the public wants has become
irrevalent. This seems to be true across the globe for those that have a choice in their government.
We're in a functioning government that no longer serves it's people. It
has been this way for a long time. The government could do good, but it is easier to be disfunctional and fool the people. In other words we're just
as bad as other government systems that choose to abuse their people.
Those in the USA legally have options to correct the situation, but likely just want to be taken care of and ignore what has been done to them. Sadly few are even taught this, and thus the public chooses to fight the wrong causes and solutions.
We are not ready for good to prevail and thus choose not to fight for it.
You seem to assume everything Trump does is EVIL ...
On 5/4/25 8:24 PM, David LaRue wrote:they
c186282 <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
Modern US presidents seem to rely more and more
on rule-by-fiat ... executive orders and similar.
IMHO this is NOT a great trend - no matter the
party holding the office at the moment.
The preferred approach is for for the legislature
to be responsive and draft laws/reg ... then the
POTUS either signs or vetoes.
XOs *do* have a certain place - mostly for time-
critical 'emergency' situations ... the legislative
process there may simply be TOO slow.
I'm going to propose a law that puts a rather
strict time-limit on XOs. Within 30 days the
Congress must vote it up or down - straight
simple majority vote. If they do nothing then
the order simply expires. If this gakes a
monthly "XO Afternoon" of voting then so be it.
This gives the POTUS the needed 'emergency' powers
but leaves the legislature to make the longer-term
decision.
Oh, no repeated XOs on the same subject ...
In just the past few years we've seen both Joe
and Trump kinda go wild with XOs. They won't be
the last either - UNLESS ......
In the end, the Congress/Senate SHOULD have the
most ultimate political power - it's best for
the USA. That's part of the MAGA thing.
Until Congress gets its act together and codifies any of the good XOs,
lifecan be changed by new presidents. IMO there is little incentive for
preventlong congressional beaurocrats to do anything productive except further
their own interests, like getting election funding from the military
complex and the deep state. Your suggestion of slowing XOs would
dogood policies from any president. Everyone loves enacting bad policies
because they hurt people enough to vote for the government to promise to
longevitysomething good, and they never will. IMHO all levels of government no
longer serve The People. Sadly this does not bode well for the
theof the USA. The party doesn't matter any more. Once in the government
aelected have achieved their goals and are unable to do good before
becomming "part of the system". What the public wants has become
irrevalent. This seems to be true across the globe for those that have
ischoice in their government.
We're in a functioning government that no longer serves it's people. It
has been this way for a long time. The government could do good, but it
justeasier to be disfunctional and fool the people. In other words we're
likelyas bad as other government systems that choose to abuse their people.
Those in the USA legally have options to correct the situation, but
Sadlyjust want to be taken care of and ignore what has been done to them.
it.few are even taught this, and thus the public chooses to fight the wrong
causes and solutions.
We are not ready for good to prevail and thus choose not to fight for
You seem to assume everything Trump does is EVIL ...
TDS has sharp teeth, consumes mind and soul.
My worry is that Trump and Joe aren't NEARLY the
worst we may see in future presidents. Those two
at least kinda THOUGHT they were doing the right
things. Next or next POTUS ... deliberate evil
may be the prime agenda. One closet extremist
and it gets really bad really fast.
AS SUCH, given the clear trend towards dictation
via XOs, it's time for Congress to take firmer
control - including my mentioned time-limits
on XOs. This is something I think they could pass
with a big enough margin to over-ride a veto.
Note also the good POLITICS involved in my
proposal. No pol wants to be seen voting
with The Other Guys. By creating a 30/60 day
AUTOMATIC expiry to XOs the pols won't have
to DO anything if they don't like the XO.
Time will be up and the authority of the XO
just goes away.
Not so much evil as stupid:
Fire a bunch of people, then immediately rehire them.
Announce a big tariff, then declare a moratorium on it.
Insult a country, then ask a favor from it.
Claim a new Golden Age, then blame bad news on Biden.
Blast a treaty as unfair to America, forgetting he signed it.
Even toddlers behave better than that..........
Quite the contrary. He has done a wonderful job working under agovernment
that refuses to make meaninful changes.
I've always supported him since becoming a reasonable option for the >presidency.
Not so much evil as stupid:
Fire a bunch of people, then immediately rehire them.
Announce a big tariff, then declare a moratorium on it.
Insult a country, then ask a favor from it.
Claim a new Golden Age, then blame bad news on Biden.
Blast a treaty as unfair to America, forgetting he signed it.
Even toddlers behave better than that..........
That's what happens when the POTUS is a feeble old mental case in severe cognitive decline. It's great watching that old fool die slowly right before our eyes in public.
c186282 <[email protected]> wrote in news:Jo- [email protected]:
On 5/4/25 8:24 PM, David LaRue wrote:
c186282 <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
Modern US presidents seem to rely more and more
on rule-by-fiat ... executive orders and similar.
IMHO this is NOT a great trend - no matter the
party holding the office at the moment.
The preferred approach is for for the legislature
to be responsive and draft laws/reg ... then the
POTUS either signs or vetoes.
XOs *do* have a certain place - mostly for time-
critical 'emergency' situations ... the legislative
process there may simply be TOO slow.
I'm going to propose a law that puts a rather
strict time-limit on XOs. Within 30 days the
Congress must vote it up or down - straight
simple majority vote. If they do nothing then
the order simply expires. If this gakes a
monthly "XO Afternoon" of voting then so be it.
This gives the POTUS the needed 'emergency' powers
but leaves the legislature to make the longer-term
decision.
Oh, no repeated XOs on the same subject ...
In just the past few years we've seen both Joe
and Trump kinda go wild with XOs. They won't be
the last either - UNLESS ......
In the end, the Congress/Senate SHOULD have the
most ultimate political power - it's best for
the USA. That's part of the MAGA thing.
Until Congress gets its act together and codifies any of the good XOs, they >>> can be changed by new presidents. IMO there is little incentive for life >>> long congressional beaurocrats to do anything productive except further
their own interests, like getting election funding from the military
complex and the deep state. Your suggestion of slowing XOs would prevent >>> good policies from any president. Everyone loves enacting bad policies
because they hurt people enough to vote for the government to promise to do >>> something good, and they never will. IMHO all levels of government no
longer serve The People. Sadly this does not bode well for the longevity >>> of the USA. The party doesn't matter any more. Once in the government the >>> elected have achieved their goals and are unable to do good before
becomming "part of the system". What the public wants has become
irrevalent. This seems to be true across the globe for those that have a >>> choice in their government.
We're in a functioning government that no longer serves it's people. It >>> has been this way for a long time. The government could do good, but it is >>> easier to be disfunctional and fool the people. In other words we're just >>> as bad as other government systems that choose to abuse their people.
Those in the USA legally have options to correct the situation, but likely >>> just want to be taken care of and ignore what has been done to them. Sadly >>> few are even taught this, and thus the public chooses to fight the wrong >>> causes and solutions.
We are not ready for good to prevail and thus choose not to fight for it. >>
You seem to assume everything Trump does is EVIL ...
Quite the contrary. He has done a wonderful job working under a government that refuses to make meaninful changes.
I've always supported him since becoming a reasonable option for the presidency.
Pat <[email protected]> wrote in news:vvaqv3$3d2lg$[email protected]:
Not so much evil as stupid:
Fire a bunch of people, then immediately rehire them.
Announce a big tariff, then declare a moratorium on it.
Insult a country, then ask a favor from it.
Claim a new Golden Age, then blame bad news on Biden.
Blast a treaty as unfair to America, forgetting he signed it.
Even toddlers behave better than that..........
That's what happens when the POTUS is a feeble old mental case in severe
cognitive decline. It's great watching that old fool die slowly right
before our eyes in public.
At least aged presidents like Wilson
and FDR and Reagan and Biden filled their
cabinets with capable people who knew their
jobs. Trump will appoint any manifest idiot
as long as they sing his praises loud enough.
The puppy killer and Director Brainworm and
alcoholic running the Pentagon? Where does he
find these people?
Quite the contrary. He has done a wonderful job working under
a government
that refuses to make meaninful changes.
I've always supported him since becoming a reasonable option
for the
presidency.
"The party doesn't matter any more," you say.
That's what rightwinguts like to do when they're in power and the
situation is hopelessly screwed -- spread the blame around to
everybody.
Donald Trump and Donald Trump alone (plus his Republican enablers
in Congress) is solely responsible for this economic shit storm
that's getting ready to happen.
On 2025-05-05 04:48:32 +0000, David LaRue said:life
c186282 <[email protected]> wrote in news:Jo-
[email protected]:
On 5/4/25 8:24 PM, David LaRue wrote:
c186282 <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
Modern US presidents seem to rely more and more
on rule-by-fiat ... executive orders and similar.
IMHO this is NOT a great trend - no matter the
party holding the office at the moment.
The preferred approach is for for the legislature
to be responsive and draft laws/reg ... then the
POTUS either signs or vetoes.
XOs *do* have a certain place - mostly for time-
critical 'emergency' situations ... the legislative
process there may simply be TOO slow.
I'm going to propose a law that puts a rather
strict time-limit on XOs. Within 30 days the
Congress must vote it up or down - straight
simple majority vote. If they do nothing then
the order simply expires. If this gakes a
monthly "XO Afternoon" of voting then so be it.
This gives the POTUS the needed 'emergency' powers
but leaves the legislature to make the longer-term
decision.
Oh, no repeated XOs on the same subject ...
In just the past few years we've seen both Joe
and Trump kinda go wild with XOs. They won't be
the last either - UNLESS ......
In the end, the Congress/Senate SHOULD have the
most ultimate political power - it's best for
the USA. That's part of the MAGA thing.
Until Congress gets its act together and codifies any of the good XOs, they
can be changed by new presidents. IMO there is little incentive for
furtherlong congressional beaurocrats to do anything productive except
preventtheir own interests, like getting election funding from the military
complex and the deep state. Your suggestion of slowing XOs would
policiesgood policies from any president. Everyone loves enacting bad
to dobecause they hurt people enough to vote for the government to promise
longevitysomething good, and they never will. IMHO all levels of government no >>>> longer serve The People. Sadly this does not bode well for the
government theof the USA. The party doesn't matter any more. Once in the
have aelected have achieved their goals and are unable to do good before
becomming "part of the system". What the public wants has become
irrevalent. This seems to be true across the globe for those that
Itchoice in their government.
We're in a functioning government that no longer serves it's people.
it ishas been this way for a long time. The government could do good, but
justeasier to be disfunctional and fool the people. In other words we're
likelyas bad as other government systems that choose to abuse their people.
Those in the USA legally have options to correct the situation, but
Sadlyjust want to be taken care of and ignore what has been done to them.
wrongfew are even taught this, and thus the public chooses to fight the
it.causes and solutions.
We are not ready for good to prevail and thus choose not to fight for
government
You seem to assume everything Trump does is EVIL ...
Quite the contrary. He has done a wonderful job working under a
that refuses to make meaninful changes.
I've always supported him since becoming a reasonable option for the
presidency.
"The party doesn't matter any more," you say.
That's what rightwinguts like to do when they're in power and the
situation is hopelessly screwed -- spread the blame around to everybody.
Donald Trump and Donald Trump alone (plus his Republican enablers in Congress) is solely responsible for this economic shit storm that's
getting ready to happen.
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