• Trump Holds Rally, No One Comes

    From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 30 06:37:21 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring
    | trade. But the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the
    | 'Trump 28 T-shirts were kicking their heels. There was no
    | one around. Inside the hall, only about a third of the
    | space had been laid out with seats - with probably seating
    | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have ever seen
    | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that
    | people like me are pointing it out. All of this comes as
    | Trump's latest poll numbers show a big slide from when he
    | took office, and another slide in consumer confidence; now
    | the lowest since the height of the pandemic.
    | ... <https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga-jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Wed Apr 30 05:44:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2025-04-30 10:37:21 +0000, Bradley K. Sherman said:

    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring
    | trade. But the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the
    | 'Trump 28 T-shirts were kicking their heels. There was no
    | one around. Inside the hall, only about a third of the
    | space had been laid out with seats - with probably seating
    | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have ever seen
    | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that
    | people like me are pointing it out. All of this comes as
    | Trump's latest poll numbers show a big slide from when he
    | took office, and another slide in consumer confidence; now
    | the lowest since the height of the pandemic.
    | ... <https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga-jon-sopel-b2742094.html>


    --bks

    Supposedly the same Michigan county that (stupidly) put him over the
    top to carry the state last time.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Apr 30 07:41:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 06:37:21 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring
    | trade. But the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the
    | 'Trump 28 T-shirts were kicking their heels. There was no
    | one around. Inside the hall, only about a third of the
    | space had been laid out with seats - with probably seating
    | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have ever seen
    | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that
    | people like me are pointing it out. All of this comes as
    | Trump's latest poll numbers show a big slide from when he
    | took office, and another slide in consumer confidence; now
    | the lowest since the height of the pandemic.
    | ...
    <https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga-jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

    What Trump rally? For all we know this guy went to the wrong place.
    It was a very thinly diguised hit piece on Trump.

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  • From Borax Man@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Wed Apr 30 12:40:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    ["Followup-To:" header set to talk.politics.misc.]
    On 2025-04-30, Bradley K. Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:
    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring
    | trade. But the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the
    | 'Trump 28 T-shirts were kicking their heels. There was no
    | one around. Inside the hall, only about a third of the
    | space had been laid out with seats - with probably seating
    | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have ever seen
    | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that
    | people like me are pointing it out. All of this comes as
    | Trump's latest poll numbers show a big slide from when he
    | took office, and another slide in consumer confidence; now
    | the lowest since the height of the pandemic.
    | ...
    <https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga-jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

    Don't believe everything you read.

    Trump won the popular vote, so he must have *some* support.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 30 15:23:00 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 12:40:37 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:

    ["Followup-To:" header set to talk.politics.misc.]
    On 2025-04-30, Bradley K. Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:
    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see | the long
    lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already | humid heat to get a
    prime spot in the venue. Over the years | I have seen Trump speaking at
    venues holding 20,000 - and | those places have been packed to
    overflowing. But yesterday | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring | trade. But
    the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the | 'Trump 28 T-shirts
    were kicking their heels. There was no | one around. Inside the hall,
    only about a third of the | space had been laid out with seats - with
    probably seating | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have
    ever seen | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that | people like
    me are pointing it out. All of this comes as | Trump's latest poll
    numbers show a big slide from when he | took office, and another slide
    in consumer confidence; now | the lowest since the height of the
    pandemic.
    | ... >><https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga- jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

    Don't believe everything you read.

    Trump won the popular vote, so he must have *some* support.

    Not as much now.

    Red state constituents are furious -- including MAGAs.

    --
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Borax Man on Wed Apr 30 11:30:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Borax Man wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    ["Followup-To:" header set to talk.politics.misc.]
    On 2025-04-30, Bradley K. Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:
    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring
    | trade. But the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the
    | 'Trump 28 T-shirts were kicking their heels. There was no
    | one around. Inside the hall, only about a third of the
    | space had been laid out with seats - with probably seating
    | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have ever seen
    | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that
    | people like me are pointing it out. All of this comes as
    | Trump's latest poll numbers show a big slide from when he
    | took office, and another slide in consumer confidence; now
    | the lowest since the height of the pandemic.
    | ... >><https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga-jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

    Don't believe everything you read.

    Trump won the popular vote, so he must have *some* support.

    Sounds like a "that was then, this is now" scenario.

    --
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    Lisp Machine is Fun.
    Lisp, Lisp, Lisp Machine,
    Fun for everyone.

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  • From Bi-valve Mollusk@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Wed Apr 30 13:07:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/30/2025 6:37 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring
    | trade. But the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the
    | 'Trump 28 T-shirts were kicking their heels. There was no
    | one around. Inside the hall, only about a third of the
    | space had been laid out with seats - with probably seating
    | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have ever seen
    | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that
    | people like me are pointing it out. All of this comes as
    | Trump's latest poll numbers show a big slide from when he
    | took office, and another slide in consumer confidence; now
    | the lowest since the height of the pandemic.
    | ... <https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga-jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

    The New York Times, claiming ~3,000 attendees, with the venue’s seating capacity at 2,800 but allowing slightly more with standing room.

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  • From Hudson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 30 16:59:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 12:40:37 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man <[email protected]> >wrote in <[email protected]>:

    ["Followup-To:" header set to talk.politics.misc.]
    On 2025-04-30, Bradley K. Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:
    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see | the long
    lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already | humid heat to get a
    prime spot in the venue. Over the years | I have seen Trump speaking at
    venues holding 20,000 - and | those places have been packed to
    overflowing. But yesterday | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring | trade. But
    the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the | 'Trump 28 T-shirts
    were kicking their heels. There was no | one around. Inside the hall,
    only about a third of the | space had been laid out with seats - with
    probably seating | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have
    ever seen | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that | people like
    me are pointing it out. All of this comes as | Trump's latest poll
    numbers show a big slide from when he | took office, and another slide
    in consumer confidence; now | the lowest since the height of the
    pandemic.
    | ... >>><https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga- >jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

    Don't believe everything you read.

    Trump won the popular vote, so he must have *some* support.

    Not as much now.

    Red state constituents are furious -- including MAGAs.


    Everyone loves der Fuehrer

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Delvin_Ben=C3=AAt?=@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Apr 30 10:16:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/30/2025 4:41 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 06:37:21 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring
    | trade. But the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the
    | 'Trump 28 T-shirts were kicking their heels. There was no
    | one around. Inside the hall, only about a third of the
    | space had been laid out with seats - with probably seating
    | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have ever seen
    | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that
    | people like me are pointing it out. All of this comes as
    | Trump's latest poll numbers show a big slide from when he
    | took office, and another slide in consumer confidence; now
    | the lowest since the height of the pandemic.
    | ...
    <https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga-jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

    What Trump rally?

    The *failed* Trump rally in Michigan: https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/29/politics/warren-michigan-trump-rally-100-days/index.html

    Yeah, CNN, you whining do-nothing mackerel-reeking cunt. Deal with it.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bi-valve Mollusk on Thu May 1 02:12:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Bi-valve Mollusk <[email protected]> wrote in news:vutlcn$m0f4$[email protected]:

    On 4/30/2025 6:37 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring
    | trade. But the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the
    | 'Trump 28 T-shirts were kicking their heels. There was no
    | one around. Inside the hall, only about a third of the
    | space had been laid out with seats - with probably seating
    | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have ever seen
    | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that
    | people like me are pointing it out. All of this comes as
    | Trump's latest poll numbers show a big slide from when he
    | took office, and another slide in consumer confidence; now
    | the lowest since the height of the pandemic.
    | ...
    <https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga
    -jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

    The New York Times, claiming ~3,000 attendees, with the venue’s
    seating capacity at 2,800 but allowing slightly more with standing
    room.







    Trump claiming packed crowds with camera
    footage of tiers of empty seats.




    Empty seats all over the arena: Trump
    busted for moving rallies to tiny venues
    January 22, 2024
    https://tinyurl.com/yzbae9py



    Video Shows Empty Seats at Back
    of Trump Rally As Former President Speaks
    Jul 30, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/3z2t38br



    Empty seats all over the arena
    for Trump rally in NH
    January 22, 2024
    https://tinyurl.com/z883tz2v



    President Trump shocked at the rows of
    empty seats in Tulsa
    June 20 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/yyxr659o



    Lots of empty seats at Trump rally in Richmond
    06/10/2016
    https://tinyurl.com/y3d4lvma



    Trump Met With Waves Of Empty Spaces and Empty
    Seats At Texas Rally
    OCT 17TH, 2019
    https://tinyurl.com/yyuhootb



    President Trump boasts big rally attendance
    despite empty seats
    APR 30, 2017
    https://tinyurl.com/yxlp2mnb



    Donald Trump Fails to Fill Alabama Stadium
    Aug 22 2018
    https://tinyurl.com/y5pwkxuo

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 1 11:03:11 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.

    Bernie Sanders:
    |
    | Congratulations to President Trump for drawing 4,000 people
    | last night to a rally in Warren, MI. Keep it up.
    |
    | You brought out almost half as many people as we did in the
    | same city last month!
    |
    | Americans are fighting back against authoritarianism and
    | attacks on the working class.
    |
    <https://x.com/BernieSanders/status/1917671323419005426>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu May 1 07:14:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 07:41:04 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 06:37:21 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring
    | trade. But the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the
    | 'Trump 28 T-shirts were kicking their heels. There was no
    | one around. Inside the hall, only about a third of the
    | space had been laid out with seats - with probably seating
    | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have ever seen
    | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that
    | people like me are pointing it out. All of this comes as
    | Trump's latest poll numbers show a big slide from when he
    | took office, and another slide in consumer confidence; now
    | the lowest since the height of the pandemic.
    | ... >><https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga-jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

    What Trump rally? For all we know this guy went to the wrong place.
    It was a very thinly diguised hit piece on Trump.

    And Bradley bot has run away.

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  • From Bi-valve Mollusk@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Thu May 1 08:08:20 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/30/2025 10:12 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Bi-valve Mollusk <[email protected]> wrote in news:vutlcn$m0f4$[email protected]:

    On 4/30/2025 6:37 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring
    | trade. But the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the
    | 'Trump 28 T-shirts were kicking their heels. There was no
    | one around. Inside the hall, only about a third of the
    | space had been laid out with seats - with probably seating
    | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have ever seen
    | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that
    | people like me are pointing it out. All of this comes as
    | Trump's latest poll numbers show a big slide from when he
    | took office, and another slide in consumer confidence; now
    | the lowest since the height of the pandemic.
    | ...
    <https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga
    -jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

    The New York Times, claiming ~3,000 attendees, with the venue’s
    seating capacity at 2,800 but allowing slightly more with standing
    room.







    Trump claiming packed crowds with camera
    footage of tiers of empty seats.

    Trump made no such claim in Michigan; the NYT did, making all the below citations iorrelevant. Are you now calling the NYT liars?




    Empty seats all over the arena: Trump
    busted for moving rallies to tiny venues
    January 22, 2024
    https://tinyurl.com/yzbae9py



    Video Shows Empty Seats at Back
    of Trump Rally As Former President Speaks
    Jul 30, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/3z2t38br



    Empty seats all over the arena
    for Trump rally in NH
    January 22, 2024
    https://tinyurl.com/z883tz2v



    President Trump shocked at the rows of
    empty seats in Tulsa
    June 20 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/yyxr659o



    Lots of empty seats at Trump rally in Richmond
    06/10/2016
    https://tinyurl.com/y3d4lvma



    Trump Met With Waves Of Empty Spaces and Empty
    Seats At Texas Rally
    OCT 17TH, 2019
    https://tinyurl.com/yyuhootb



    President Trump boasts big rally attendance
    despite empty seats
    APR 30, 2017
    https://tinyurl.com/yxlp2mnb



    Donald Trump Fails to Fill Alabama Stadium
    Aug 22 2018
    https://tinyurl.com/y5pwkxuo





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  • From Borax Man@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Thu May 1 13:23:20 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    ["Followup-To:" header set to talk.politics.misc.]
    On 2025-04-30, Chris Ahlstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
    Borax Man wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    ["Followup-To:" header set to talk.politics.misc.]
    On 2025-04-30, Bradley K. Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:
    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring
    | trade. But the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the
    | 'Trump 28 T-shirts were kicking their heels. There was no
    | one around. Inside the hall, only about a third of the
    | space had been laid out with seats - with probably seating
    | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have ever seen
    | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that
    | people like me are pointing it out. All of this comes as
    | Trump's latest poll numbers show a big slide from when he
    | took office, and another slide in consumer confidence; now
    | the lowest since the height of the pandemic.
    | ... >>><https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga-jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

    Don't believe everything you read.

    Trump won the popular vote, so he must have *some* support.

    Sounds like a "that was then, this is now" scenario.


    No, because before everyone saying the same thing still.

    If people were saying before the election "Trump is popular, people seem to like him, he could win", and NOW they are saying otherwise, that would
    be credible. But they are saying the exact same lines they've been
    saying since 2016.

    They weren't right before, why would I assume they have their finger on
    the pulse now?

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Bi-valve Mollusk on Thu May 1 09:21:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2025-05-01 12:08:20 +0000, Bi-valve Mollusk said:

    On 4/30/2025 10:12 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Bi-valve Mollusk <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:vutlcn$m0f4$[email protected]:

    On 4/30/2025 6:37 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring
    | trade. But the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the
    | 'Trump 28 T-shirts were kicking their heels. There was no
    | one around. Inside the hall, only about a third of the
    | space had been laid out with seats - with probably seating
    | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have ever seen
    | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that
    | people like me are pointing it out. All of this comes as
    | Trump's latest poll numbers show a big slide from when he
    | took office, and another slide in consumer confidence; now
    | the lowest since the height of the pandemic.
    | ...
    <https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga >>>> -jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

    The New York Times, claiming ~3,000 attendees, with the venue’s
    seating capacity at 2,800 but allowing slightly more with standing
    room.







    Trump claiming packed crowds with camera
    footage of tiers of empty seats.

    Trump made no such claim in Michigan;

    He called Sanders a lunatic (pot-kettle-black) even though he was
    impressed with his mental acuity at his age. He also bragged (lied)
    that Sanders and AOC's crowds the past few weeks were smaller than his.

    the NYT did,

    The NYT simply reported what Trump said.

    This is all on video BTW so you just look foolish denying it.

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  • From Bi-valve Mollusk@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 1 10:43:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 5/1/2025 10:21 AM, super70s wrote:
    On 2025-05-01 12:08:20 +0000, Bi-valve Mollusk said:

    On 4/30/2025 10:12 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Bi-valve Mollusk <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:vutlcn$m0f4$[email protected]:

    On 4/30/2025 6:37 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring
    | trade. But the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the
    | 'Trump 28 T-shirts were kicking their heels. There was no
    | one around. Inside the hall, only about a third of the
    | space had been laid out with seats - with probably seating
    | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have ever seen
    | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that
    | people like me are pointing it out. All of this comes as
    | Trump's latest poll numbers show a big slide from when he
    | took office, and another slide in consumer confidence; now
    | the lowest since the height of the pandemic.
    | ...
    <https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga >>>>> -jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

    The New York Times, claiming ~3,000 attendees, with the venue’s
    seating capacity at 2,800 but allowing slightly more with standing
    room.







    Trump claiming packed crowds with camera
    footage of tiers of empty seats.

    Trump made no such claim in Michigan;

    He called Sanders a lunatic (pot-kettle-black) even though he was
    impressed with his mental acuity at his age. He also bragged (lied) that Sanders and AOC's crowds the past few weeks were smaller than his.

     the NYT did,

    The NYT simply reported what Trump said.

    No, it reported what it saw. The NYT was there.

    This is all on video BTW so you just look foolish denying it.


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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Borax Man on Thu May 1 11:16:40 2025
    Borax Man wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    No, because before everyone saying the same thing still.

    If people were saying before the election "Trump is popular, people seem to like him, he could win", and NOW they are saying otherwise, that would
    be credible. But they are saying the exact same lines they've been
    saying since 2016.

    They weren't right before, why would I assume they have their finger on
    the pulse now?

    You write code?

    --
    Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature.
    -- Rich Kulawiec

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  • From Bi-valve Mollusk@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu May 1 12:56:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 5/1/2025 12:48 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Thu, 1 May 2025 10:43:30 -0400, Bi-valve Mollusk <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 5/1/2025 10:21 AM, super70s wrote:
    On 2025-05-01 12:08:20 +0000, Bi-valve Mollusk said:

    On 4/30/2025 10:12 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Bi-valve Mollusk <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:vutlcn$m0f4$[email protected]:

    On 4/30/2025 6:37 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring
    | trade. But the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the
    | 'Trump 28 T-shirts were kicking their heels. There was no
    | one around. Inside the hall, only about a third of the
    | space had been laid out with seats - with probably seating
    | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have ever seen
    | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that
    | people like me are pointing it out. All of this comes as
    | Trump's latest poll numbers show a big slide from when he
    | took office, and another slide in consumer confidence; now
    | the lowest since the height of the pandemic.
    | ...
    <https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga >>>>>>> -jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

    The New York Times, claiming ~3,000 attendees, with the venue’s
    seating capacity at 2,800 but allowing slightly more with standing >>>>>> room.







    Trump claiming packed crowds with camera
    footage of tiers of empty seats.

    Trump made no such claim in Michigan;

    He called Sanders a lunatic (pot-kettle-black) even though he was
    impressed with his mental acuity at his age. He also bragged (lied) that >>> Sanders and AOC's crowds the past few weeks were smaller than his.

     the NYT did,

    The NYT simply reported what Trump said.

    No, it reported what it saw. The NYT was there.

    Exactly. They were there, they witnessed the event, they heard him
    say it, there is video of the event wherein he said it.

    Stop wasting time.

    It's you who is wasting time. You are responding to something that isn't
    even the subject of the thread (super70s yammering on about what Trump
    said), nor what I was addressing, which is the claim that Trump held a
    rally and no one came. That's a lie.

    This is all on video BTW so you just look foolish denying it.


    --
    MAGA wants to kiss off all the amendments since the Twelth.

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  • From Bi-valve Mollusk@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu May 1 12:57:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 5/1/2025 12:47 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Thu, 1 May 2025 08:08:20 -0400, Bi-valve Mollusk <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/30/2025 10:12 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Bi-valve Mollusk <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:vutlcn$m0f4$[email protected]:

    On 4/30/2025 6:37 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | ...
    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.
    |
    | The traders selling Trump merch normally do a roaring
    | trade. But the hawkers flogging the red MAGA hats and the
    | 'Trump 28 T-shirts were kicking their heels. There was no
    | one around. Inside the hall, only about a third of the
    | space had been laid out with seats - with probably seating
    | for maybe 1500. It was the smallest venue I have ever seen
    | Trump speak in and it was nowhere near full.
    |
    | He won't have liked that. And he'll like even less that
    | people like me are pointing it out. All of this comes as
    | Trump's latest poll numbers show a big slide from when he
    | took office, and another slide in consumer confidence; now
    | the lowest since the height of the pandemic.
    | ...
    <https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-rally-100-days-maga >>>>> -jon-sopel-b2742094.html>

    --bks

    The New York Times, claiming ~3,000 attendees, with the venue’s
    seating capacity at 2,800 but allowing slightly more with standing
    room.







    Trump claiming packed crowds with camera
    footage of tiers of empty seats.

    Trump made no such claim in Michigan; the NYT did, making all the below
    citations iorrelevant. Are you now calling the NYT liars?

    Calling you one.


    Except the NYT confirmed it. They were there.

    Apology accepted.




    Empty seats all over the arena: Trump
    busted for moving rallies to tiny venues
    January 22, 2024
    https://tinyurl.com/yzbae9py



    Video Shows Empty Seats at Back
    of Trump Rally As Former President Speaks
    Jul 30, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/3z2t38br



    Empty seats all over the arena
    for Trump rally in NH
    January 22, 2024
    https://tinyurl.com/z883tz2v



    President Trump shocked at the rows of
    empty seats in Tulsa
    June 20 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/yyxr659o



    Lots of empty seats at Trump rally in Richmond
    06/10/2016
    https://tinyurl.com/y3d4lvma



    Trump Met With Waves Of Empty Spaces and Empty
    Seats At Texas Rally
    OCT 17TH, 2019
    https://tinyurl.com/yyuhootb



    President Trump boasts big rally attendance
    despite empty seats
    APR 30, 2017
    https://tinyurl.com/yxlp2mnb



    Donald Trump Fails to Fill Alabama Stadium
    Aug 22 2018
    https://tinyurl.com/y5pwkxuo




    --
    MAGA wants to kiss off all the amendments since the Twelth.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Bi-valve Mollusk on Thu May 1 19:05:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 1/5/25 5:08, Bi-valve Mollusk wrote:
    Trump made no such claim in Michigan; the NYT did, making all the
    below citations iorrelevant. Are you now calling the NYT liars?

    More or fewer at the Sanders and AOC road show?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri May 2 06:59:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 1 May 2025 11:03:11 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.

    Bernie Sanders:
    |
    | Congratulations to President Trump for drawing 4,000 people
    | last night to a rally in Warren, MI. Keep it up.
    |
    | You brought out almost half as many people as we did in the
    | same city last month!
    |
    | Americans are fighting back against authoritarianism and
    | attacks on the working class.
    |
    <https://x.com/BernieSanders/status/1917671323419005426>

    --bks

    "Fighting back" by supporting authoritarianism like Hamas???

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  • From Bi-valve Mollusk@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri May 2 08:56:56 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 5/2/2025 6:00 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Thu, 1 May 2025 12:56:28 -0400, Bi-valve Mollusk <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 5/1/2025 12:48 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    <snip>
    Exactly. They were there, they witnessed the event, they heard him
    say it, there is video of the event wherein he said it.

    Stop wasting time.

    It's you who is wasting time. You are responding to something that isn't
    even the subject of the thread (super70s yammering on about what Trump
    said),

    Threads, like any conversation, evolve and mutate. If you don't want
    to be part of this conversation, shut the fuck up.

    Yeah yeah, bla bla bla. If you're going to dodge, as is usually the
    case, at least address the subject before pivoting.

    nor what I was addressing, which is the claim that Trump held a
    rally and no one came. That's a lie.

    2800 seat venue isn't a lie.

    I didn't say it was. In fact, I used the NYTs article as confirmation
    that it was. The lie was you gomers who said it wasn't full.

    Reither was the 1500 seat venue he
    couldn't fill. Compared to the huge crowds he's drawn in the past,
    nobody is showing up for him anymore, relatively speaking.
    Why can't he draw the big crowds anymore?

    This is all on video BTW so you just look foolish denying it.

    And of course what you and other magas have denied Trump said even
    though it's on videotape.

    I never claimed Trump said or did not say anything. Go bark up some
    other tree.

    Just cleaned out my filters. Back you go, liar.

    Awwww, taking your ball and going home are ya?

    --
    MAGA wants to kiss off all the amendments since the Twelth.

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  • From Bi-valve Mollusk@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Fri May 2 08:57:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 5/1/2025 10:05 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 1/5/25 5:08, Bi-valve Mollusk wrote:
    Trump made no such claim in Michigan; the NYT did, making all the
    below citations iorrelevant. Are you now calling the NYT liars?

    More or fewer at the Sanders and AOC road show?

    Don't know, don't care.

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  • From Borax Man@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Fri May 2 14:47:57 2025
    On 2025-05-01, Chris Ahlstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
    Borax Man wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    No, because before everyone saying the same thing still.

    If people were saying before the election "Trump is popular, people seem to >> like him, he could win", and NOW they are saying otherwise, that would
    be credible. But they are saying the exact same lines they've been
    saying since 2016.

    They weren't right before, why would I assume they have their finger on
    the pulse now?

    You write code?


    Yes. What has that got to do with anything?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat May 3 09:10:32 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 02 May 2025 06:59:02 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Thu, 1 May 2025 11:03:11 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | As I walked across the vast parking lot I expected to see
    | the long lines of the Trump lovers, queuing in the already
    | humid heat to get a prime spot in the venue. Over the years
    | I have seen Trump speaking at venues holding 20,000 - and
    | those places have been packed to overflowing. But yesterday
    | there were no lines.

    Bernie Sanders:
    |
    | Congratulations to President Trump for drawing 4,000 people
    | last night to a rally in Warren, MI. Keep it up.
    |
    | You brought out almost half as many people as we did in the
    | same city last month!
    |
    | Americans are fighting back against authoritarianism and
    | attacks on the working class.
    |
    <https://x.com/BernieSanders/status/1917671323419005426>

    --bks

    "Fighting back" by supporting authoritarianism like Hamas???

    And Bradley bot has run away.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 3 23:54:55 2025
    Some of the recent anti-Trump rallies were equally sparse



    --
    Vasos Panagiotopoulos panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
    ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---

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