• Re: What Are The Odds?

    From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Mon Apr 28 18:15:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
    news:vuodh3$njs$[email protected]:

    What are the odds Trump can *wait* longer than Xi?
    |
    | Sec. Bessent says it's 'up to China to de-escalate' trade
    | war, not worried about empty shelves
    |
    | Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent in various TV hits Monday
    | that it's "up to China to de-escalate" the trade war.
    | ...
    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/trump-admin-live-updates- border-czar-brief-securing>

    Billionaires don't worry about empty shelves, or losing jobs.

    This is a totally unnecessary "crisis" fomented by Trump for
    no apparent reason. The economy was in great shape; the envy
    of the industrial world.


    Indeed.




    US Economy Adds 227,000 Jobs in November, Exceeding Expectations
    December 16, 2024
    https://tinyurl.com/2s7kupny


    The U.S. economy added 256,000 jobs in December,
    much higher than anticipated.
    January 22, 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/y6mhknrj


    The lowest unemployment rate in five decades
    Sept 4 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/792htzff


    May home sales rise with near record
    June 22 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/4r2dwm2x


    Americans are setting vacation records
    and splurging at bars, restaurants and
    hotels
    May 15, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9bv2cp


    US economy added 336,000 jobs last month,
    almost twice what was expected
    October 6, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/c3e8mk7u


    People are spending more on travel this summer
    They�re traveling for longer amounts of time too
    July 18 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2m8nyny2


    Vacation Confidence 2023: Americans Spending
    More Than $200 Billion on Summer Vacation
    https://tinyurl.com/bwzwtv7u


    US boat sales expected to remain strong in 2023
    Feb 10 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/3em3pnxb


    US auto sales to rise in May as
    inventories improve
    May 25, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/553e6p3e


    RV Industry Sets Retail Sales Record
    Feb 8, 2022
    https://tinyurl.com/murzxn6z


    Inflation is finally falling sharply
    July 17 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/4ayd876z


    US economy added 209,000 jobs in June
    July 13 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/4w8c625b


    California home sales at highest point in 8 months
    June 27, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/yy7y69a4


    Eyepopping Factory Construction Boom in the US
    Dec 2, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/asy8pbrm


    Factory construction spending booms under Biden
    Jan 4, 2024
    https://tinyurl.com/3kwpfwpd


    Construction�s manufacturing boom
    August 7, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/4hpu76zt


    U.S. Factory Construction in a Historic Spike
    Nov 4, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/bde44azc


    New lithium battery factory in Arizona
    Oct 26 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/yc4f7vcp


    New lithium battery factory in N Carolina
    Nov 28 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/bdz2vn8s


    New lithium battery factory in S Carolina
    Mar 22 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/ycyzrt9h


    New lithium battery factory in Utah
    Aug 25 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/mr3pwabh


    Kia to manufacture new electric
    SUV at Georgia plant
    April 5, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/46n3t75z


    GM, Samsung plan new EV battery cell
    factory in US
    April 25, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/yhvp72em


    Gov. Pritzker and Gotion Announce New
    $2 Billion Electric Vehicle Battery
    Gigafactory in Kankakee County
    September 08, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/5c3nuunv


    Stellantis, Samsung SDI to build
    $3.2 billion EV battery plant in
    Indiana
    OCT 11 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/m85fhabt


    GM, Hyundai announce EV battery
    plants for the US
    Apr 25, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/aerne942


    Rivian signs agreements with Georgia
    to start building EV factory
    Reuters
    November 14, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2uxbfcnk


    Lion Electric opens electric vehicle
    plant in Channahon Illinois
    Friday, July 21, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/4sm86yr7


    U.S. refining capacity increased in
    2023 with expansions at existing facilities
    JULY 30, 2024
    https://tinyurl.com/3pma9aat


    First significant U.S refinery in 50 years
    to be built in Texas
    JUNE 10, 2024
    https://tinyurl.com/2taw3dzb


    US oil refining capacity rises for second year in a row
    June 14, 2024
    https://tinyurl.com/ycxcjyk9

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 28 13:22:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    What are the odds Trump can *wait* longer than Xi?
    |
    | Sec. Bessent says it's 'up to China to de-escalate' trade
    | war, not worried about empty shelves
    |
    | Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent in various TV hits Monday
    | that it's "up to China to de-escalate" the trade war.
    | ... <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/trump-admin-live-updates-border-czar-brief-securing>

    Billionaires don't worry about empty shelves, or losing jobs.

    This is a totally unnecessary "crisis" fomented by Trump for
    no apparent reason. The economy was in great shape; the envy
    of the industrial world.

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 28 23:49:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | Sec. Bessent says it's 'up to China to de-escalate' trade
    | war, not worried about empty shelves

    |
    | China insists no tariff talks underway with Trump and Xi or
    | top aides, despite U.S. claims
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/28/trump-xi-tariffs-china-bessent.html>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Apr 29 07:21:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 13:22:43 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    What are the odds Trump can *wait* longer than Xi?
    |
    | Sec. Bessent says it's 'up to China to de-escalate' trade
    | war, not worried about empty shelves
    |
    | Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent in various TV hits Monday
    | that it's "up to China to de-escalate" the trade war.
    | ...
    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/trump-admin-live-updates-border-czar-brief-securing>

    Billionaires don't worry about empty shelves, or losing jobs.

    This is a totally unnecessary "crisis" fomented by Trump for
    no apparent reason. The economy was in great shape; the envy
    of the industrial world.

    --bks

    Considering that China is more dependant on us than we are of them,
    you might not to put any money down on China.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 29 14:00:53 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | Sec. Bessent says it's 'up to China to de-escalate' trade
    | war, not worried about empty shelves

    | China insists no tariff talks underway with Trump and Xi or
    | top aides, despite U.S. claims

    |
    | Q: "Is the administration talking to China about tariffs or
    | not?"
    |
    | BESSENT: "We're not going to talk about who is talking to
    | whom..."
    |
    | *Clears his throat nervously multiple times*
    |
    | Spoiler: they are not.
    |
    | [98-second C-SPAN video at URL]
    |
    <https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3lnxg6d2oks2i>

    --bks

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Apr 29 12:06:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 23:49:40 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Sec. Bessent says it's 'up to China to de-escalate' trade
    | war, not worried about empty shelves

    | China insists no tariff talks underway with Trump and Xi or
    | top aides, despite U.S. claims
    | ... >><https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/28/trump-xi-tariffs-china-bessent.html>

    Yet China recently rolled back their retaliatory tariff on chips
    designed or manufactured in the US.

    That's China is not anywhere near autonomy on chip manufacture.

    <https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/25/business/china-us-tariffs-semiconductors-exemptions-hnk-intl/>

    For months, Beijing has been projecting an air of strength and confidence
    in its ability to withstand an escalating trade war with the US. But these
    exemptions suggest it needs to roll back some levies on crucial items that
    it cannot make at home or source elsewhere. Besides semiconductors, China
    has decided to grant exemptions on some aircraft parts, including engines
    and landing gear, according to an aviation executive.

    Semiconductors are an indispensable part of just about every electronic
    device. They are difficult to make because of the high cost of development
    and the level of knowledge required, meaning much of the production is
    concentrated among a handful of suppliers.

    Although China has made strides in developing its own semiconductor
    industry, it is still highly dependent on imports of chips and chipmaking
    equipment from the United States, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan and the
    Netherlands. Last year, China imported $11.7 billion worth of
    semiconductors from the US, according to customs data.

    Duncan Clark, chairman of technology investment advisory firm BDA, said the
    exemptions suggest China does not have “autonomy in chips.”

    --
    Most of what I really need to know about how to live, and what to do, and how to be, I learned in kindergarten. Wisdom was not at the top of the graduate school mountain but there in the sandbox at nursery school.
    These are the things I learned: Share everything. Play fair. Don't hit people. Put things back where you found them. Clean up your own mess. Don't take things that aren't yours. Say you're sorry when you hurt someone. Wash your hands before you eat. Flush. Warm cookies and cold milk are good for you. Live a balanced life. Learn some and think some and draw and paint and sing and dance and play and work some every day.
    Take a nap every afternoon. When you go out into the world, watch for traffic, hold hands, and stick together. Be aware of wonder. Remember the little seed in the plastic cup. The roots go down and the plant goes up and nobody really knows how or why, but we are all like that. Goldfish and hamsters and white mice and even the little seed in the plastic cup -- they all die. So do we.
    And then remember the book about Dick and Jane and the first word you learned, the biggest word of all: LOOK. Everything you need to know is in there somewhere. The Golden Rule and love and basic sanitation. Ecology and politics and sane living.
    Think of what a better world it would be if we all -- the whole world -- had cookies and milk about 3 o'clock every afternoon and then lay down with our blankets for a nap. Or if we had a basic policy in our nation and other nations to always put things back where we found them and cleaned up our own messes. And it is still true, no matter how old you are, when you go out into the world it is best to hold hands and stick together.
    -- Robert Fulghum, "All I ever really needed to know I learned
    in kindergarten"

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Apr 30 03:59:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2025-04-29 11:21:37 +0000, NoBody said:

    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 23:49:40 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Sec. Bessent says it's 'up to China to de-escalate' trade
    | war, not worried about empty shelves

    |
    | China insists no tariff talks underway with Trump and Xi or
    | top aides, despite U.S. claims
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/28/trump-xi-tariffs-china-bessent.html>

    --bks

    Look at you believing communists...
    So cute!

    Your Dear Leader Trump is snuggling up to someone who wants to
    resurrect the old Soviet Union.

    Plus Putin is using troops from North Korea to help fight his
    unjustified land grab war.

    Look at you believing in communists...
    So cute!

    Your argument is demolished.

    Thank you drive thru...

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Apr 30 07:22:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 07:21:05 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 13:22:43 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    What are the odds Trump can *wait* longer than Xi?
    |
    | Sec. Bessent says it's 'up to China to de-escalate' trade
    | war, not worried about empty shelves
    |
    | Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent in various TV hits Monday
    | that it's "up to China to de-escalate" the trade war.
    | ... >><https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/trump-admin-live-updates-border-czar-brief-securing>

    Billionaires don't worry about empty shelves, or losing jobs.

    This is a totally unnecessary "crisis" fomented by Trump for
    no apparent reason. The economy was in great shape; the envy
    of the industrial world.

    --bks

    Considering that China is more dependant on us than we are of them,
    you might not to put any money down on China.

    And Bradley bot has run away.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 2 13:47:50 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | China insists no tariff talks underway with Trump and Xi or
    | top aides, despite U.S. claims

    | Q: "Is the administration talking to China about tariffs or
    | not?"
    |
    | BESSENT: "We're not going to talk about who is talking to
    | whom..."
    |
    | *Clears his throat nervously multiple times*
    |
    | Spoiler: they are not.

    | ...
    | China's Commerce Ministry said in a statement that China
    | was "evaluating" the U.S. offer to talk, but it said
    | Beijing's position remained consistent: It will only engage
    | in negotiations if Washington cancels its tariffs on
    | Chinese goods first.
    |
    | "If the United States does not correct its wrong unilateral
    | tariff measures, it means that the United States has no
    | sincerity at all and will further damage the mutual trust
    | between the two sides," the ministry said.
    | ... <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/world/asia/china-us-tariffs-talks.html>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sat May 3 09:26:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 2 May 2025 13:47:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | China insists no tariff talks underway with Trump and Xi or
    | top aides, despite U.S. claims

    | Q: "Is the administration talking to China about tariffs or
    | not?"
    |
    | BESSENT: "We're not going to talk about who is talking to
    | whom..."
    |
    | *Clears his throat nervously multiple times*
    |
    | Spoiler: they are not.

    | ...
    | China's Commerce Ministry said in a statement that China
    | was "evaluating" the U.S. offer to talk, but it said
    | Beijing's position remained consistent: It will only engage
    | in negotiations if Washington cancels its tariffs on
    | Chinese goods first.
    |
    | "If the United States does not correct its wrong unilateral
    | tariff measures, it means that the United States has no
    | sincerity at all and will further damage the mutual trust
    | between the two sides," the ministry said.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/world/asia/china-us-tariffs-talks.html>

    --bks

    Look at you: a communist quoting the communist NYT who quotes the
    communist Chinese, apparently believing their brave face.

    I'm pretty sure you were just saying China would refuse to negotiate
    at all.

    Laughter.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat May 3 08:29:57 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/5/25 6:26, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 2 May 2025 13:47:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | China insists no tariff talks underway with Trump and Xi or
    | top aides, despite U.S. claims

    | Q: "Is the administration talking to China about tariffs or
    | not?"
    |
    | BESSENT: "We're not going to talk about who is talking to
    | whom..."
    |
    | *Clears his throat nervously multiple times*
    |
    | Spoiler: they are not.

    | ...
    | China's Commerce Ministry said in a statement that China
    | was "evaluating" the U.S. offer to talk, but it said
    | Beijing's position remained consistent: It will only engage
    | in negotiations if Washington cancels its tariffs on
    | Chinese goods first.
    |
    | "If the United States does not correct its wrong unilateral
    | tariff measures, it means that the United States has no
    | sincerity at all and will further damage the mutual trust
    | between the two sides," the ministry said.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/world/asia/china-us-tariffs-talks.html> >>
    --bks

    Look at you: a communist quoting the communist NYT who quotes the
    communist Chinese, apparently believing their brave face.

    I'm pretty sure you were just saying China would refuse to negotiate
    at all.

    Laughter.


    Define 'communist'.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Sat May 3 18:32:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Siri Cruz <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:vv5coj$3qfb7$[email protected]:

    On 3/5/25 6:26, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 2 May 2025 13:47:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | China insists no tariff talks underway with Trump and Xi or
    | top aides, despite U.S. claims

    | Q: "Is the administration talking to China about tariffs or
    | not?"
    |
    | BESSENT: "We're not going to talk about who is talking to
    | whom..."
    |
    | *Clears his throat nervously multiple times*
    |
    | Spoiler: they are not.

    | ...
    | China's Commerce Ministry said in a statement that China
    | was "evaluating" the U.S. offer to talk, but it said
    | Beijing's position remained consistent: It will only engage
    | in negotiations if Washington cancels its tariffs on
    | Chinese goods first.
    |
    | "If the United States does not correct its wrong unilateral
    | tariff measures, it means that the United States has no
    | sincerity at all and will further damage the mutual trust
    | between the two sides," the ministry said.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/world/asia/china-us-tariffs-talks
    .html>

    --bks

    Look at you: a communist quoting the communist NYT who quotes the
    communist Chinese, apparently believing their brave face.

    I'm pretty sure you were just saying China would refuse to negotiate
    at all.

    Laughter.


    Define 'communist'.



    It will never be said that a single
    Democrat shipped a single job to communist
    China. That is strictly a Republican thing.

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