Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
| ...
| We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
| with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
| consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
| don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
| the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
| have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
| been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
| of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the
| not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs
| for different countries.
| ...
<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/>
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
[email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vuin6d$4vm$1 @panix2.panix.com:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
| ...
| We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
| with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
| consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
| don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
| the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
| have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
| been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
| of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the
| not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs
| for different countries.
<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/>
The Invisible Hand is orange.
"We are from the government, we are here to help"
Reagan derided such federal government interference,
Trump has elevated to holy mantra.
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
| ...
| We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
| with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
| consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
| don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
| the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
| have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
| been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
| of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the
| not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs
| for different countries.
| ...
<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/>
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
| ...
| We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
| with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
| consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
| don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
| the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
| have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
| been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
| of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the
| not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs
| for different countries.
| ...
<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/>
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
Read the full paragraph in context. It's about setting the
appropriate tariff not the price of the product.
NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
...<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/>
We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the
not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs
for different countries.
...
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
Read the full paragraph in context. It's about setting the
appropriate tariff not the price of the product.
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
On 4/28/25 12:40 PM, Lee wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
...<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/>
We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the
not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs
for different countries.
...
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
Read the full paragraph in context. It's about setting the
appropriate tariff not the price of the product.
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
A naive point of view alas ... leads to
getting swindled.
NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
...<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/>
We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the
not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs
for different countries.
...
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
Read the full paragraph in context. It's about setting the
appropriate tariff not the price of the product.
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 18:35:38 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/28/25 12:40 PM, Lee wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
...<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/>
We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the
not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs
for different countries.
...
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
Read the full paragraph in context. It's about setting the
appropriate tariff not the price of the product.
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
A naive point of view alas ... leads to
getting swindled.
You can deny it all you want, but the trade deficit is a consumer
choice. Consumer sees two near idential products. One is half the
price of the other. Nobody checked nation of origin, they just bought
the cheap one.
Yes, maga, you did this to yourselves.
Governor Swill wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:40:33 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
The tariff is based on the price of the product.
It really is a line item thing. Kudos to those countries who want to
list tariff pricing on goods.
Kudos to the retailers that listAre any retailers doing that? A quick web search didn't turn up any that are. There was a story that a subsidiary of Amazon was going to start doing it, but they backed off after White House criticism and now they deny they were even considering it.
the tariff as the price increase.
Governor Swill wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:40:33 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
The tariff is based on the price of the product.
It really is a line item thing. Kudos to those countries who want to
list tariff pricing on goods.
Kudos to the retailers that list
the tariff as the price increase.
NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:40:33 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
...<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/>
We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the
not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs
for different countries.
...
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
Read the full paragraph in context. It's about setting the
appropriate tariff not the price of the product.
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
Talk about oversimplification.
Talk about moving the goalpost...again.
How much extra money are Americans
willing to pay for a product made in
America?
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 16:07:15 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:40:33 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
...<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/> >>>>>>
We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the
not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs
for different countries.
...
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
Read the full paragraph in context. It's about setting the
appropriate tariff not the price of the product.
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
Talk about oversimplification.
Talk about moving the goalpost...again.
How much extra money are Americans
willing to pay for a product made in
America?
Time will tell. Don't forget that most Chinesium parts either don't
work or break in a short time.
Yep, that will enable to people choose to support countries who do the
right thing and don't unfairly tarrif our goods.
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 16:07:15 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:40:33 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
...<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/> >>>>>>
We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the
not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs
for different countries.
...
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
Read the full paragraph in context. It's about setting the
appropriate tariff not the price of the product.
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
Talk about oversimplification.
Talk about moving the goalpost...again.
How much extra money are Americans
willing to pay for a product made in
America?
Time will tell. Don't forget that most Chinesium
parts either don't work or break in a short time.We know that's a lie, because Americans keep buying them as they have done for decades. And don't forget that most high-end imported products Americans buy that are now grossly more expensive are not made in China.
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 16:03:49 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:*tariff*, you illiterate shitworm.
Governor Swill wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:40:33 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
The tariff is based on the price of the product.
It really is a line item thing. Kudos to those countries who want to
list tariff pricing on goods.
Kudos to the retailers that list
the tariff as the price increase.
Yep, that will enable to people choose to support countries who do the
right thing and don't unfairly tarrif [sic] our goods.
NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 16:07:15 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:40:33 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]>
wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT), [email protected]
(Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
...<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcri
We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the
not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs
for different countries.
...
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
Read the full paragraph in context. It's about setting the
appropriate tariff not the price of the product.
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
Talk about oversimplification.
Talk about moving the goalpost...again.
How much extra money are Americans
willing to pay for a product made in
America?
Time will tell. Don't forget that most Chinesium parts either don't
work or break in a short time.
If Chinese products are so flimsy why
does Trump have HIS stuff manufactured there?
Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 16:07:15 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:40:33 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]>
wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT), [email protected]
(Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
...<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcri
We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the
not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs
for different countries.
...
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
Read the full paragraph in context. It's about setting the
appropriate tariff not the price of the product.
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
Talk about oversimplification.
Talk about moving the goalpost...again.
How much extra money are Americans
willing to pay for a product made in
America?
Nothing. That's how this situation came about. Americans chose the
cheapest option no matter where the product was made. Whether it was
a toaster, a TV or a car.
And Americans ALWAYS went for the cheapest option until buying
foreign became the only option.
Exactly. Consumers want the lowest
prices they can get, producers want the
lowest labor costs they can get.
As the Ned Beatty speech in Network
said, Trump is "interfering with the
fundemental laws of nature".
On 30/4/25 4:08, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 16:07:15 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:40:33 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>> Sherman) wrote:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
...<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/> >>>>>>>
We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the
not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs
for different countries.
...
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
Read the full paragraph in context. It's about setting the
appropriate tariff not the price of the product.
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
Talk about oversimplification.
Talk about moving the goalpost...again.
How much extra money are Americans
willing to pay for a product made in
America?
Time will tell. Don't forget that most Chinesium parts either don't
work or break in a short time.
If american do not buy from china, what is all the fuss about?
NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 16:07:15 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:40:33 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
...<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/> >> >> >> >
We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the
not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs
for different countries.
...
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
Read the full paragraph in context. It's about setting the
appropriate tariff not the price of the product.
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
Talk about oversimplification.
Talk about moving the goalpost...again.
How much extra money are Americans
willing to pay for a product made in
America?
Time will tell. Don't forget that most Chinesium parts either don't
work or break in a short time.
If Chinese products are so flimsy why
does Trump have HIS stuff manufactured there?
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 04:26:50 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]>That's a really stupid lie even by your appalling standard. China is only the *third largest* trading partner for the U.S., and imports from China don't even comprise 15% of *all* imports, let alone "most" products sold by U.S. companies.
wrote:
On 30/4/25 4:08, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 16:07:15 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:40:33 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>
NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
...<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/> >>>>>>>>
We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they >>>>>>>>> don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with >>>>>>>>> the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage >>>>>>>>> of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the >>>>>>>>> not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs >>>>>>>>> for different countries.
...
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
Read the full paragraph in context. It's about setting the
appropriate tariff not the price of the product.
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
Talk about oversimplification.
Talk about moving the goalpost...again.
How much extra money are Americans
willing to pay for a product made in
America?
Time will tell. Don't forget that most Chinesium parts either don't
work or break in a short time.
If american do not buy from china, what is all the fuss about?
That would be future state. Current state is most products are made
in China.
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 15:53:03 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:Not a subject change at all.
NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 16:07:15 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:40:33 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>
NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
...<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/> >>>>>>>>
We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the >>>>>>>>> not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs >>>>>>>>> for different countries.
...
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
Read the full paragraph in context. It's about setting the
appropriate tariff not the price of the product.
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
Talk about oversimplification.
Talk about moving the goalpost...again.
How much extra money are Americans
willing to pay for a product made in
America?
Time will tell. Don't forget that most Chinesium parts either don't
work or break in a short time.
If Chinese products are so flimsy why
does Trump have HIS stuff manufactured there?
Subject change noted.
That would be future state. Current state is most products are madeTime will tell. Don't forget that most Chinesium parts either don't
work or break in a short time.
If american do not buy from china, what is all the fuss about?
in China.
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 15:53:03 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 16:07:15 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:40:33 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>
NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:
Central planning by the the Dictator's whims:
...<https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/> >>>>>>>>
We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet
with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I
consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they
don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with
the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some
have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's
been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage
of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the >>>>>>>>> not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs >>>>>>>>> for different countries.
...
--bks
The Invisible Hand is orange.
Read the full paragraph in context. It's about setting the
appropriate tariff not the price of the product.
Consumers don't care about tariff
policies, they care about the price
of product.
Talk about oversimplification.
Talk about moving the goalpost...again.
How much extra money are Americans
willing to pay for a product made in
America?
Time will tell. Don't forget that most Chinesium parts either don't
work or break in a short time.
If Chinese products are so flimsy why
does Trump have HIS stuff manufactured there?
Subject change noted.
On 1/5/25 3:58, NoBody wrote:
That would be future state. Current state is most products are madeTime will tell. Don't forget that most Chinesium parts either don't
work or break in a short time.
If american do not buy from china, what is all the fuss about?
in China.
Despite that 'don't work or break in a short time'?
On Thu, 01 May 2025 17:08:24 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 1/5/25 3:58, NoBody wrote:
That would be future state. Current state is most products are madeTime will tell. Don't forget that most Chinesium parts either don't >>>>> >>work or break in a short time.
If american do not buy from china, what is all the fuss about?
in China.
Despite that 'don't work or break in a short time'?
Most Americans are stupid (you for example...) and buy on price alone.
At some point they will learn.
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