• Air Force - Brazil Using Interesting Small Turbo-Prop For Patrols

    From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 19 20:25:43 2025
    XPost: alt.military, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_EMB_314_Super_Tucano

    The Embraer EMB 314 Super Tucano (English: Super Toucan),
    also named ALX or A-29, is a Brazilian turboprop light
    attack and counter-insurgency aircraft designed and built
    by Embraer as a development of the Embraer EMB 312 Tucano.
    The A-29 Super Tucano carries a wide variety of weapons,
    including precision-guided munitions, and was designed
    to be a low-cost system operated in low-threat environments.

    In addition to its manufacture in Brazil, Embraer has set
    up a production line in Portugal through the company OGMA
    and in the United States in conjunction with Sierra Nevada
    Corporation for the manufacture of A-29s to export customers.

    The new aircraft was to be suited to the Amazon region
    (high temperature, moisture, and precipitation; low military
    threat). The ALX was then specified as a turboprop engine
    plane with a long range and autonomy, able to operate night
    and day, in any meteorological conditions, and able to land
    on short airfields lacking infrastructure.

    . . .

    Came across this looking at some Brazilian news about
    shooting down a dope-smuggling plane.

    Incidently this scattered hundreds of pill paks all
    over an indigenous tribe's area - so, if they don't
    OD, expect a week-long party :-)

    The interesting bit is that this 2-seater turbo-prop
    IS military-capable and can support several kinds of
    weapons systems. It is not intended to repel a Russian
    invasion or anything, but within it's niche it is
    a very economical and adequate solution to a variety
    of smuggling and intrusion problems.

    The company is now expanding production and supports
    and expects many overseas contracts. These have even
    been used in the Afghanistan war.

    Now the USA always goes for extreme over-kill - Apache
    choppers and jet fighters. Expensive to buy, expensive
    to maintain. However for border and support operations
    something like these may be the far better solution.
    Cheap and easy and CAN take on smugglers and such.

    The US mil was going to buy a bunch, but Beechcraft
    lobbyists paid off somebody so it never happened.

    In any case, there ARE still good uses for propeller
    planes in modern mil/security operations. You do not
    need a Mach-2 fighter along the Mex border or out in
    the Florida straits. You could buy a dozen+ of these
    things for the price of an F-15.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 20 21:46:03 2025
    XPost: alt.military, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 4/19/25 8:25 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_EMB_314_Super_Tucano

    The Embraer EMB 314 Super Tucano (English: Super Toucan),
    also named ALX or A-29, is a Brazilian turboprop light
    attack and counter-insurgency aircraft designed and built
    by Embraer as a development of the Embraer EMB 312 Tucano.
    The A-29 Super Tucano carries a wide variety of weapons,
    including precision-guided munitions, and was designed
    to be a low-cost system operated in low-threat environments.

    In addition to its manufacture in Brazil, Embraer has set
    up a production line in Portugal through the company OGMA
    and in the United States in conjunction with Sierra Nevada
    Corporation for the manufacture of A-29s to export customers.

    The new aircraft was to be suited to the Amazon region
    (high temperature, moisture, and precipitation; low military
    threat). The ALX was then specified as a turboprop engine
    plane with a long range and autonomy, able to operate night
    and day, in any meteorological conditions, and able to land
    on short airfields lacking infrastructure.

    . . .

      Came across this looking at some Brazilian news about
      shooting down a dope-smuggling plane.

      Incidently this scattered hundreds of pill paks all
      over an indigenous tribe's area - so, if they don't
      OD, expect a week-long party  :-)

      The interesting bit is that this 2-seater turbo-prop
      IS military-capable and can support several kinds of
      weapons systems. It is not intended to repel a Russian
      invasion or anything, but within it's niche it is
      a very economical and adequate solution to a variety
      of smuggling and intrusion problems.

      The company is now expanding production and supports
      and expects many overseas contracts. These have even
      been used in the Afghanistan war.

      Now the USA always goes for extreme over-kill - Apache
      choppers and jet fighters. Expensive to buy, expensive
      to maintain. However for border and support operations
      something like these may be the far better solution.
      Cheap and easy and CAN take on smugglers and such.

      The US mil was going to buy a bunch, but Beechcraft
      lobbyists paid off somebody so it never happened.

      In any case, there ARE still good uses for propeller
      planes in modern mil/security operations. You do not
      need a Mach-2 fighter along the Mex border or out in
      the Florida straits. You could buy a dozen+ of these
      things for the price of an F-15.


    Followup :

    What looks to be the same aircraft, with a different
    numbering, appeared in Korean news today. Seems a
    pilot screwed up and dropped his gun pods by accident.

    https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10469833

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