• Trump vs. SCOTUS Deathmatch

    From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 15 09:12:08 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    The vote was 9-0 against Trump:
    |
    | The Constitutional Crisis Is Here
    |
    | Trump's administration is only pretending to comply with
    | the Supreme Court on the matter of a Maryland man it
    | deported erroneously.
    | ... <https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/04/bukele-trump-court-order/682432/?gift=Je3D9AQS-C17lUTOnl2W8FIcAJ_15fkw4XWpbB8kiu0&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share>

    --bks

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Apr 15 08:18:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/15/2025 6:12 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    The vote was 9-0 against Trump:
    |
    | The Constitutional Crisis Is Here
    |
    | Trump's administration is only pretending to comply with
    | the Supreme Court on the matter of a Maryland man it
    | deported erroneously.
    | ... <https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/04/bukele-trump-court-order/682432/?gift=Je3D9AQS-C17lUTOnl2W8FIcAJ_15fkw4XWpbB8kiu0&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share>

    --bks

    It's worse than that. Stephen Miller claimed SCOTUS unanimously ruled
    *in favor* of Trump (!!) by claiming the Court's holding was only El
    Salvador (not the USA) can decide whether to send him back.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Apr 16 07:19:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:12:08 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    The vote was 9-0 against Trump:
    |
    | The Constitutional Crisis Is Here
    |
    | Trump's administration is only pretending to comply with
    | the Supreme Court on the matter of a Maryland man it
    | deported erroneously.
    | ...
    <https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/04/bukele-trump-court-order/682432/?gift=Je3D9AQS-C17lUTOnl2W8FIcAJ_15fkw4XWpbB8kiu0&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share>

    --bks


    Well that's a blatant lie.

    "Between the path of outright defiance of the Supreme Court and
    following its order to �facilitate� the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia
    from El Salvador�s infamous Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo
    (CECOT), the Trump administration has chosen a third way: pretending
    it is complying while refusing to do so."

    This means that should El Salvador choose to release the criminal, we
    can assist in having him returned to the country. There was no order
    to have him released because the court knows it has no authority
    outside of the US and cannot dictate foreign policy.

    Lastly, the man is neither a US citizen nor a legal immigrant to the
    US. The Supreme Court made a completely ceremonial ruling and they
    knew it.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Apr 16 07:26:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 08:18:10 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/15/2025 6:12 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    The vote was 9-0 against Trump:
    |
    | The Constitutional Crisis Is Here
    |
    | Trump's administration is only pretending to comply with
    | the Supreme Court on the matter of a Maryland man it
    | deported erroneously.
    | ...
    <https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/04/bukele-trump-court-order/682432/?gift=Je3D9AQS-C17lUTOnl2W8FIcAJ_15fkw4XWpbB8kiu0&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share>

    --bks

    It's worse than that. Stephen Miller claimed SCOTUS unanimously ruled
    *in favor* of Trump (!!) by claiming the Court's holding was only El
    Salvador (not the USA) can decide whether to send him back.


    What is inaccurate about that statement? Where in the ruling did the
    court demand that this illegal be released from another country's
    prison. Be VERY specific in your choice of words because you know
    they didn't. The court knows it has no authority whatsoever outside
    of the country.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Apr 18 07:06:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 07:19:49 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:12:08 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    The vote was 9-0 against Trump:
    |
    | The Constitutional Crisis Is Here
    |
    | Trump's administration is only pretending to comply with
    | the Supreme Court on the matter of a Maryland man it
    | deported erroneously.
    | ... >><https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/04/bukele-trump-court-order/682432/?gift=Je3D9AQS-C17lUTOnl2W8FIcAJ_15fkw4XWpbB8kiu0&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share>

    --bks


    Well that's a blatant lie.

    "Between the path of outright defiance of the Supreme Court and
    following its order to �facilitate� the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia
    from El Salvador�s infamous Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo
    (CECOT), the Trump administration has chosen a third way: pretending
    it is complying while refusing to do so."

    This means that should El Salvador choose to release the criminal, we
    can assist in having him returned to the country. There was no order
    to have him released because the court knows it has no authority
    outside of the US and cannot dictate foreign policy.

    Lastly, the man is neither a US citizen nor a legal immigrant to the
    US. The Supreme Court made a completely ceremonial ruling and they
    knew it.

    Confronted with actual facts, Bradey runs away,

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Apr 18 07:07:15 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 07:26:31 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 08:18:10 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/15/2025 6:12 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    The vote was 9-0 against Trump:
    |
    | The Constitutional Crisis Is Here
    |
    | Trump's administration is only pretending to comply with
    | the Supreme Court on the matter of a Maryland man it
    | deported erroneously.
    | ...
    <https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/04/bukele-trump-court-order/682432/?gift=Je3D9AQS-C17lUTOnl2W8FIcAJ_15fkw4XWpbB8kiu0&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share>

    --bks

    It's worse than that. Stephen Miller claimed SCOTUS unanimously ruled
    *in favor* of Trump (!!) by claiming the Court's holding was only El >>Salvador (not the USA) can decide whether to send him back.


    What is inaccurate about that statement? Where in the ruling did the
    court demand that this illegal be released from another country's
    prison. Be VERY specific in your choice of words because you know
    they didn't. The court knows it has no authority whatsoever outside
    of the country.

    And "Josh" can't answer a simple question.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 20 14:53:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    The vote was 9-0 against Trump:
    |
    | The Constitutional Crisis Is Here

    |
    | Sen. Chris Van Hollen says America is in a 'constitutional
    | crisis' as Trump disregards court orders in the Abrego
    | Garcia case
    | ... <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/chris-van-hollen-america-constitutional-crisis-trump-abrego-garcia-rcna202018>

    --bks

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sun Apr 20 09:06:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/20/2025 7:53 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    The vote was 9-0 against Trump:
    |
    | The Constitutional Crisis Is Here

    |
    | Sen. Chris Van Hollen says America is in a 'constitutional
    | crisis' as Trump disregards court orders in the Abrego
    | Garcia case
    | ... <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/chris-van-hollen-america-constitutional-crisis-trump-abrego-garcia-rcna202018>

    --bks

    Trump is not (yet) in defiance of any court orders. At this point, the
    Garcia case comes down to interpreting what "facilitate" means, which
    has not yet been determined by the courts.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Sun Apr 20 11:49:21 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 20/4/25 9:06, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 4/20/2025 7:53 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    The vote was 9-0 against Trump:
    |
    | The Constitutional Crisis Is Here

    |
    | Sen. Chris Van Hollen says America is in a 'constitutional
    | crisis' as Trump disregards court orders in the Abrego
    | Garcia case
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/chris-van-hollen-america-constitutional-crisis-trump-abrego-garcia-rcna202018>


    --bks

    Trump is not (yet) in defiance of any court orders. At this
    point, the Garcia case comes down to interpreting what
    "facilitate" means, which has not yet been determined by the courts.

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/judge-abrego-garcia-case-indicates-weighing-contempt-proceedings-trump-rcna201359>

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Sun Apr 20 12:53:52 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/20/2025 11:49 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 20/4/25 9:06, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 4/20/2025 7:53 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    The vote was 9-0 against Trump:
       |
       | The Constitutional Crisis Is Here

      |
      | Sen. Chris Van Hollen says America is in a 'constitutional
      | crisis' as Trump disregards court orders in the Abrego
      | Garcia case
      | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/chris-van-
    hollen-america-constitutional-crisis-trump-abrego-garcia-rcna202018>


         --bks

    Trump is not (yet) in defiance of any court orders. At this
    point, the Garcia case comes down to interpreting what
    "facilitate" means, which has not yet been determined by the courts.

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/judge-abrego-garcia-case- indicates-weighing-contempt-proceedings-trump-rcna201359>

    She has not acted on that yet. Contempt would be appropriate if Trump
    doesn't answer what they are doing to facilitate Garcia's return. But,
    it's not if they answer "we will provide a plane." That's an issue that
    should be decided on appeal.

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