| As Trump cracks down on immigration, U.S. citizens are
| among those snared
Afroyim v. Rusk says a U.S. citizen cannot be involuntarily stripped of citizenship. The case concerned a naturalized American citizen, a Polish Jew named Beys Afroyim, who also held Israeli citizenship and voted in an Israeli election. There was a provision in the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, aka McCarran-Walter Act, that said an American who voted in a foreign election could lose his citizenship. That provision was stripped following Afroyim v. Rusk.| As Trump cracks down on immigration, U.S. citizens are
| among those snared
|
| Team Trump Is Gaming Out How to Ship U.S. Citizens to El
| Salvador
|
| Trump officials are talking internally about denaturalizing
| American citizens -- and potentially sending some to El
| Salvador
| ... <https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-el-salvador-us-citizens-denaturalization-1235315975/>
On 4/12/2025 8:07 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
Afroyim v. Rusk says a U.S. citizen cannot be involuntarily stripped of citizenship. The case concerned a naturalized American citizen, a Polish Jew named Beys Afroyim, who also held Israeli citizenship and voted in an Israeli election. There was a provision in the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952,| As Trump cracks down on immigration, U.S. citizens are
| among those snared
|
| Team Trump Is Gaming Out How to Ship U.S. Citizens to El
| Salvador
|
| Trump officials are talking internally about denaturalizing
| American citizens -- and potentially sending some to El
| Salvador
| ...
<https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-el-salvador-us-citizens-denaturalization-1235315975/>
aka McCarran-Walter Act, that said an American who voted in a foreign election
could lose his citizenship. That provision was stripped following Afroyim v. Rusk.
There are only very few ways a citizen can be stripped of citizenship. A naturalized citizen can be denaturalized if found to have lied or committed fraud on the application for citizenship (see John Demjanjuk). A natural born American citizen can be stripped of citizenship for certain "expatriating" acts,
such as serving in the armed forces of another country, or being convicted of treason.
Without having engaged in some voluntary "expatriating" conduct, a natural born
American citizen cannot be stripped of citizenship under the Constitution and U.S. law. If Trump tries this, he will lose. But he *will* try it. Trump is an
outlaw.
| As Trump cracks down on immigration, U.S. citizens are
| among those snared
|
| Team Trump Is Gaming Out How to Ship U.S. Citizens to El
| Salvador
|
| Trump officials are talking internally about denaturalizing
| American citizens -- and potentially sending some to El
| Salvador
| ...
<https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-el-salvador-us-citizens-denaturalization-1235315975/>
--bks
["Followup-To:" header set to talk.politics.misc.]
On 2025-04-12, J Carlson <[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/12/2025 8:07 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
Afroyim v. Rusk says a U.S. citizen cannot be involuntarily stripped of| As Trump cracks down on immigration, U.S. citizens are
| among those snared
|
| Team Trump Is Gaming Out How to Ship U.S. Citizens to El
| Salvador
|
| Trump officials are talking internally about denaturalizing
| American citizens -- and potentially sending some to El
| Salvador
| ...
<https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-el-salvador-us-citizens-denaturalization-1235315975/>
citizenship. The case concerned a naturalized American citizen, a Polish Jew >> named Beys Afroyim, who also held Israeli citizenship and voted in an Israeli
election. There was a provision in the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952,
aka McCarran-Walter Act, that said an American who voted in a foreign election
could lose his citizenship. That provision was stripped following Afroyim v. Rusk.
There are only very few ways a citizen can be stripped of citizenship. A
naturalized citizen can be denaturalized if found to have lied or committed >> fraud on the application for citizenship (see John Demjanjuk). A natural born
American citizen can be stripped of citizenship for certain "expatriating" acts,
such as serving in the armed forces of another country, or being convicted of
treason.
Without having engaged in some voluntary "expatriating" conduct, a natural born
American citizen cannot be stripped of citizenship under the Constitution and
U.S. law. If Trump tries this, he will lose. But he *will* try it. Trump is an
outlaw.
See the thing here is, in Europe, and the USA, the people may decide
that they *have* to deport those that came legally too, and they'll want
the law changed. Some of them may not longer care what a judge, or the
law, says. They'll want to preserve and protect their nation and
identity.
Laws can change, sometimes they have to. There have been plenty of
times in history where two groups of people, who live under the same >administrative entity, have split.
Be careful in thinking that legalistic argument will stop people, they
won't if those people feel desperate enough.
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