|
| You can't grow coffee in any of the United States of
| America except Hawaii. And you can't begin to grow enough
| coffee in Hawaii to meet even a small part of America's
| daily demand. So you have import it from all around the
| world (Africa, South America, Central America, Asia).
|
| Right now, a cup of coffee or a can of coffee at the
| supermarket or a 5-pound bag... costs X. This week it will
| cost X plus 10%. At least. If the coffee comes from certain
| countries, it will cost X plus a lot more.
|
| Politically speaking, what the White House has managed to
| create here is a daily reminder to every single coffee
| drinker in the United States of America that their cost of
| living has increased. Every day they will get this little
| memo...
|
| In the annals of political stupidity go, there are 'own
| goals' and there are 'own goals'. This one is epic.
| ...
<https://substack.news-items.com/p/coffee>
--bks
NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 09:16:02 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
<https://substack.news-items.com/p/coffee>
You can't grow coffee in any of the United States of
America except Hawaii. And you can't begin to grow enough
coffee in Hawaii to meet even a small part of America's
daily demand. So you have import it from all around the
world (Africa, South America, Central America, Asia).
Right now, a cup of coffee or a can of coffee at the
supermarket or a 5-pound bag... costs X. This week it will
cost X plus 10%. At least. If the coffee comes from certain
countries, it will cost X plus a lot more.
Politically speaking, what the White House has managed to
create here is a daily reminder to every single coffee
drinker in the United States of America that their cost of
living has increased. Every day they will get this little
memo...
In the annals of political stupidity go, there are 'own
goals' and there are 'own goals'. This one is epic.
...
--bks
Bradley-bot has turned into Seinfeld:
Stories about nothing.
Actually he raised a good point.In theory, cell phones and TVs could be produced here, and avocados are grown in
Tariffs are to protect domestic producers.
What is the point if there ARE no domestic
producers of coffee and bananas and cell
phones and TVs and avacados?
NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 09:16:02 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
<https://substack.news-items.com/p/coffee>
You can't grow coffee in any of the United States of
America except Hawaii. And you can't begin to grow enough
coffee in Hawaii to meet even a small part of America's
daily demand. So you have import it from all around the
world (Africa, South America, Central America, Asia).
Right now, a cup of coffee or a can of coffee at the
supermarket or a 5-pound bag... costs X. This week it will
cost X plus 10%. At least. If the coffee comes from certain
countries, it will cost X plus a lot more.
Politically speaking, what the White House has managed to
create here is a daily reminder to every single coffee
drinker in the United States of America that their cost of
living has increased. Every day they will get this little
memo...
In the annals of political stupidity go, there are 'own
goals' and there are 'own goals'. This one is epic.
...
--bks
Bradley-bot has turned into Seinfeld:
Stories about nothing.
Actually he raised a good point.
Tariffs are to protect domestic producers.
What is the point if there ARE no domestic
producers of coffee and bananas and cell
phones and TVs and avacados?
On 4/7/2025 9:59 AM, Lee wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 09:16:02 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
<https://substack.news-items.com/p/coffee>
You can't grow coffee in any of the United States of
America except Hawaii. And you can't begin to grow enough
coffee in Hawaii to meet even a small part of America's
daily demand. So you have import it from all around the
world (Africa, South America, Central America, Asia).
Right now, a cup of coffee or a can of coffee at the
supermarket or a 5-pound bag... costs X. This week it will
cost X plus 10%. At least. If the coffee comes from certain
countries, it will cost X plus a lot more.
Politically speaking, what the White House has managed to
create here is a daily reminder to every single coffee
drinker in the United States of America that their cost of
living has increased. Every day they will get this little
memo...
In the annals of political stupidity go, there are 'own
goals' and there are 'own goals'. This one is epic.
...
--bks
Bradley-bot has turned into Seinfeld:
Stories about nothing.
Actually he raised a good point.
Tariffs are to protect domestic producers.In theory, cell phones and TVs could be produced here, and avocados are grown in
What is the point if there ARE no domestic
producers of coffee and bananas and cell
phones and TVs and avacados?
the U.S., although 90% of all avocados eaten here come from Mexico.
But when Trump has made clear he is only using tariffs as a negotiating ploy, no
one is going to invest in a cell phone or TV manufacturing plant, when the tariffs could go away and foreign producers again will be able to produce them
more cheaply. Trump and his DEI hire economic advisers are lying when they say
that "already" trillions of dollars of foreign investment in U.S. manufacturing
plants has been committed. *No* money has been committed.
|
| You can't grow coffee in any of the United States of
| America except Hawaii.
NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 09:16:02 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
<https://substack.news-items.com/p/coffee>
You can't grow coffee in any of the United States of
America except Hawaii. And you can't begin to grow enough
coffee in Hawaii to meet even a small part of America's
daily demand. So you have import it from all around the
world (Africa, South America, Central America, Asia).
Right now, a cup of coffee or a can of coffee at the
supermarket or a 5-pound bag... costs X. This week it will
cost X plus 10%. At least. If the coffee comes from certain
countries, it will cost X plus a lot more.
Politically speaking, what the White House has managed to
create here is a daily reminder to every single coffee
drinker in the United States of America that their cost of
living has increased. Every day they will get this little
memo...
In the annals of political stupidity go, there are 'own
goals' and there are 'own goals'. This one is epic.
...
--bks
Bradley-bot has turned into Seinfeld:
Stories about nothing.
Actually he raised a good point.
Tariffs are to protect domestic producers.
What is the point if there ARE no domestic
producers of coffee and bananas and cell
phones and TVs and avacados?
On Mon, 07 Apr 2025 16:59:50 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
...
Actually he raised a good point.
Tariffs are to protect domestic producers.
And to bring in domestic production.
What is the point if there ARE no domestic
producers of coffee and bananas and cell
phones and TVs and avacados?
If you don't understand tariffs, you probably shouldn't
be posting about them.
Actually he raised a good point.And to bring in domestic production.
Tariffs are to protect domestic producers.
Golly, what a clever way to try to avoid answering the question
of where it is feasible to grow tropical food products within the
USA at a scale which is commensurate with our domestic demand.
Case in point, the US consumes ~1.6 billion pounds of coffee per
year.
And sure, some coffee is grown in Hawaii ... ~23 million pounds
from 7400 acres.
That's just ~1.4% of total US demand, so you'll need to expand
domestic operations in Hawaii.
On 8/4/25 10:26, -hh wrote:
Golly, what a clever way to try to avoid answering the question
of where it is feasible to grow tropical food products within the
USA at a scale which is commensurate with our domestic demand.
Case in point, the US consumes ~1.6 billion pounds of coffee per
year.
And sure, some coffee is grown in Hawaii ... ~23 million pounds
from 7400 acres.
That's just ~1.4% of total US demand, so you'll need to expand
domestic operations in Hawaii.
Plants get finicky about soil, altitude, sunshine, humidity, rain. They
get so ornery that just because you stick their seeds in the soil, they
can refuse to sprout and grow.
If you can grow corn, surely you can grow lettuce.
On 4/9/25 18:26, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
-hh wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
Likewise, because of the high recession risk, if we trip that
non-linearity, we're likely going to be underwater for at least 5 years. >>>
Longer, if we hit stagflation.
Trump gonna be worse than Jimmy Carter.
Trump's already worse than Jimmy.
In addition to being stuck in a profoundly difficult economy, Carter was politically outmaneuvered by the professional politicians, including his own party. Hell of a nice human being, though, as his later life showed.Democracy in the USA — *yes*, we are a democracy, as all *educated* persons understand the word to mean — is barely on life support, and the Nazis Trump and
At this point, I just hope Democracy survives. Wish I was joking.
On 4/7/25 12:59 PM, Lee wrote:
NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 09:16:02 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
You can't grow coffee in any of the United States of<https://substack.news-items.com/p/coffee>
America except Hawaii. And you can't begin to grow enough
coffee in Hawaii to meet even a small part of America's
daily demand. So you have import it from all around the
world (Africa, South America, Central America, Asia).
Right now, a cup of coffee or a can of coffee at the
supermarket or a 5-pound bag... costs X. This week it will
cost X plus 10%. At least. If the coffee comes from certain
countries, it will cost X plus a lot more.
Politically speaking, what the White House has managed to
create here is a daily reminder to every single coffee
drinker in the United States of America that their cost of
living has increased. Every day they will get this little
memo...
In the annals of political stupidity go, there are 'own
goals' and there are 'own goals'. This one is epic.
...
Bradley-bot has turned into Seinfeld:
Stories about nothing.
Actually he raised a good point.
Tariffs are to protect domestic producers.
What is the point if there ARE no domestic
producers of coffee and bananas and cell
phones and TVs and avacados?
Coffee is not the only thing we buy from down south.
It is not practical to write a bunch of per-product
rules. Blanket rules, at least early on, are more
straight-up.
So, pay more for yer StarBucks for now.
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