| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
|
| Senior officials in President Donald Trump's administration
| are facing fallout from revelations that they used a
| commercial messaging app to discuss secret military plans
| for Yemen and inadvertently included a journalist in the
| group chat. The subject is certain to come up Tuesday at a
| previously scheduled Senate Intelligence Committee hearing
| at which at least two of the Cabinet members who
| participated in the chat -- Director of National
| Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe
| -- are slated to testify.
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/25/trump-presidency-ne
--bks
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
|
| THE LAST WALTZ? Questions are swirling this morning about
| the future of national security adviser Mike Waltz over his
| role in what is surely -- hands-down -- one of the dumbest
| security breaches of recent times. Waltz has yet to comment
| publicly on The Atlantic's jaw-dropping revelation that he
| set up an unsecured Signal chat group to discuss military
| battle plans with Cabinet colleagues -- and then
| accidentally invited Atlantic editor-in-chief Jeffrey
| Goldberg to join. POLITICO's Dasha Burns, Rachael Bade and
| Eli Stokols revealed last night that multiple conversations
| are now underway among White House officials over whether
| Waltz should be forced to resign. All eyes are on the
| commander-in-chief for a final decision.
|
| What's on Trump's mind? Ominously for Waltz, there has been
| no message of support thus far from the president, who
| instead spent last night posting videos on Truth Social
| about his own achievements. In fact, Trump -- normally a
| vocal armchair pundit -- has not commented at all on the
| story, beyond a few initial boilerplate attacks on The
| Atlantic. All the signs are he's mulling his options.
|
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2025/03/25/signalgate-00246894>
--bks
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
|
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| ...
<https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
|
| Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
| Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
| for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
| bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
| others would have been fired for the same actions.
| ...
| "If this was the case of a military officer or an
| intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
| they would be fired," he added.
|
| "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
| incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
| information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
| error."
| ...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
| incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
| information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
| error."
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
| incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
| information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
| error."
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
|
| The information Secretary of Defense Hegseth disclosed in
| the Signal chat was classified at the time he wrote it,
| especially because the operation had not even started yet,
| according to a US defense official and another source who
| was briefed on the operation.
|
| "It is safe to say that anybody in uniform would be court
| martialed for this," the official said. "We don't provide
| that level of information on unclassified systems, in order
| to protect the lives and safety of the servicemembers
| carrying out these strikes. If we did, it would be wholly
| irresponsible. My most junior analysts know not to do this."
|
<https://x.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1904890815136039418>
| ...
| "It's inconceivable to me that people would not use the
| classified channels that the government has spent so much
| time and effort and money over decades trying to make as
| uncompromisable as they can," John Bolton, who has become a
| critic of Trump, told Here & Now. "And whether it's secure
| videos, secure telephones, secure text or email kinds of
| things, the channels are there. It's not like they don't
| exist. Why would you ever not use them?"
| ...
<https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2025/03/25/signal-leak-trump>
--bks
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.I love that you think they were only talking about the NCAA basketball tournament.
Sherman) wrote:
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
|
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| ...
<https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
|
| Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
| Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
| for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
| bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
| others would have been fired for the same actions.
| ...
| "If this was the case of a military officer or an
| intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
| they would be fired," he added.
|
| "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
| incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
| information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
| error."
| ...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
|
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| ...
<https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
|
| Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
| Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
| for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
| bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
| others would have been fired for the same actions.
| ...
| "If this was the case of a military officer or an
| intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
| they would be fired," he added.
|
| "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
| incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
| information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
| error."
| ...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
|
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| ...
<https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
|
| Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
| Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
| for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
| bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
| others would have been fired for the same actions.
| ...
| "If this was the case of a military officer or an
| intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
| they would be fired," he added.
|
| "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
| incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
| information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
| error."
| ... >><https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-g >>roup-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Selective belief system Bradley?
On 3/26/2025 4:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
|
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| ...
<https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
|
| Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
| Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
| for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
| bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
| others would have been fired for the same actions.
| ...
| "If this was the case of a military officer or an
| intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
| they would be fired," he added.
|
| "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
| incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
| information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
| error."
| ...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Top secret plans for military strikes on Yemen is what they were discussing.
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >Sherman) wrote:
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
|
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| ...
<https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
|
| Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
| Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
| for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
| bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
| others would have been fired for the same actions.
| ...
| "If this was the case of a military officer or an
| intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
| they would be fired," he added.
|
| "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
| incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
| information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
| error."
| ... >><https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-g >>roup-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Selective belief system Bradley?
Exactly. I have it on good authority from my White House source that they were really texting about how they admire the pictures of Trump's dick he gave them as a hiring gift.
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
Two things are crystal clear:
1. Tulsi Gabbard lied in her testimony before Congress.
2. Trump admin officials are breaking the law by usingToo bad for them that the content of the chat is reproduced in its entirety on The Atlantic site:
Signal to "disappear" their communications.
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
|
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| ...
<https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
|
| Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
| Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
| for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
| bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
| others would have been fired for the same actions.
| ...
| "If this was the case of a military officer or an
| intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
| they would be fired," he added.
|
| "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
| incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
| information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
| error."
| ...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Selective belief system Bradley?
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:04:27 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
|
| The information Secretary of Defense Hegseth disclosed in
| the Signal chat was classified at the time he wrote it,
| especially because the operation had not even started yet,
| according to a US defense official and another source who
| was briefed on the operation.
|
| "It is safe to say that anybody in uniform would be court
| martialed for this," the official said. "We don't provide
| that level of information on unclassified systems, in order
| to protect the lives and safety of the servicemembers
| carrying out these strikes. If we did, it would be wholly
| irresponsible. My most junior analysts know not to do this."
|
<https://x.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1904890815136039418>
| ...
| "It's inconceivable to me that people would not use the
| classified channels that the government has spent so much
| time and effort and money over decades trying to make as
| uncompromisable as they can," John Bolton, who has become a
| critic of Trump, told Here & Now. "And whether it's secure
| videos, secure telephones, secure text or email kinds of
| things, the channels are there. It's not like they don't
| exist. Why would you ever not use them?"
| ...
<https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2025/03/25/signal-leak-trump>
--bks
<LOL> So says a CNN fruitcake....
In article <lpVEP.1299224$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On 3/26/2025 4:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
|
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| ...
<https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
|
| Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
| Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
| for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
| bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
| others would have been fired for the same actions.
| ...
| "If this was the case of a military officer or an
| intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
| they would be fired," he added.
|
| "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
| incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
| information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
| error."
| ...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Top secret plans for military strikes on Yemen is what they were discussing.
Nothing classified.
On 3/26/25 07:32, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Unfortunately for such spin attempts ... Goldman/Atlantic has receipts.
Which is why multiple government sources have already confirmed key
elements of the story. Its already pretty damn airtight.
Plus a Catch-22 dilemma that the Administration has is that if they now
try to claim that the Signal thread was a nothingburger because nothing
was classified (which is BS, but let's continue), then they have zero
legal basis to then try to go after the Atlantic.
Plus as of last week, the Signal App was specifically not allowed to be installed on Gov't secure devices, so it begs the question of how did "Sometimes Sober" Pete copy/paste the strike data over to the chat?
The prisoner's dilemma: either knowingly passed data from secured (high
side) device to unsecured (low side) device -or- had spillage from having/allowing a prohibited App be installed onto a secure Gov device.
Both are equally bad from a criminal culpability standpoint, because ignorance of the law isn't an excuse.
And finally...the Atlantic already has the receipts that show that the
Signal App had been configured for a one week auto-delete, which means if/when it goes missing, they've violated Federal document retention
laws. This law applies regardless of classification status.
-hh
...
...| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
Nothing classified.
Clue ... other than the lefty MSM, hardly anybody CARES.
Let's see how it plays out but for now Trump owns it.
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
Two things are crystal clear:
1. Tulsi Gabbard lied in her testimony before Congress.
2. Trump admin officials are breaking the law by using
On 3/26/2025 4:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected]I love that you think they were only talking about the NCAA
(Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
|
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| ...
<https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
|
| Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
| Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
| for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
| bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
| others would have been fired for the same actions.
| ...
| "If this was the case of a military officer or an
| intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
| they would be fired," he added.
|
| "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
| incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
| information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
| error."
| ...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
basketball tournament.
| no message of support thus far from the president, who
| instead spent last night posting videos on Truth Social
| about his own achievements. In fact, Trump -- normally a
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:04:27 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
|
| The information Secretary of Defense Hegseth disclosed in
| the Signal chat was classified at the time he wrote it,
| especially because the operation had not even started yet,
| according to a US defense official and another source who
| was briefed on the operation.
|
| "It is safe to say that anybody in uniform would be court
| martialed for this," the official said. "We don't provide
| that level of information on unclassified systems, in order
| to protect the lives and safety of the servicemembers
| carrying out these strikes. If we did, it would be wholly
| irresponsible. My most junior analysts know not to do this."
|
<https://x.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1904890815136039418>
| ...
| "It's inconceivable to me that people would not use the
| classified channels that the government has spent so much
| time and effort and money over decades trying to make as
| uncompromisable as they can," John Bolton, who has become a
| critic of Trump, told Here & Now. "And whether it's secure
| videos, secure telephones, secure text or email kinds of
| things, the channels are there. It's not like they don't
| exist. Why would you ever not use them?"
| ...
<https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2025/03/25/signal-leak-trump>
--bks
<LOL> So says a CNN fruitcake....
On 2025-03-26, Skeeter <[email protected]> wrote:
In article <lpVEP.1299224$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On 3/26/2025 4:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
|
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| ...
<https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
|
| Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
| Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
| for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
| bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
| others would have been fired for the same actions.
| ...
| "If this was the case of a military officer or an
| intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
| they would be fired," he added.
|
| "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
| incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
| information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
| error."
| ...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Top secret plans for military strikes on Yemen is what they were discussing.
Nothing classified.
And the attacks were executed perfectly as designed.
That's the part the libbys leave out.
Skeeter <[email protected]> wrote:
...
...| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
Nothing classified.
Bullshit, even Trump has stopped saying that:
| ...
| After President Trump and his administration insisted for
| days that the information leaked in the Signal chat was not
| classified, he appeared to backtrack on the claim in his
| Oval Office remarks after the full transcript was released.
| Asked if he still believed nothing classified was shared,
| Trump responded: "That's what I've heard. I don't know. I'm
| not sure, you have to ask the various people involved."
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/03/26/us/trump-news>
--bks
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
Two things are crystal clear:
1. Tulsi Gabbard lied in her testimony before Congress.
2. Trump admin officials are breaking the law by using
Signal to "disappear" their communications.
--bks
On 2025-03-26, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/26/25 07:32, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Unfortunately for such spin attempts ... Goldman/Atlantic has receipts.
Which is why multiple government sources have already confirmed key
elements of the story. Its already pretty damn airtight.
Plus a Catch-22 dilemma that the Administration has is that if they now
try to claim that the Signal thread was a nothingburger because nothing
was classified (which is BS, but let's continue), then they have zero
legal basis to then try to go after the Atlantic.
Plus as of last week, the Signal App was specifically not allowed to be
installed on Gov't secure devices, so it begs the question of how did
"Sometimes Sober" Pete copy/paste the strike data over to the chat?
The prisoner's dilemma: either knowingly passed data from secured (high
side) device to unsecured (low side) device -or- had spillage from
having/allowing a prohibited App be installed onto a secure Gov device.
Both are equally bad from a criminal culpability standpoint, because
ignorance of the law isn't an excuse.
And finally...the Atlantic already has the receipts that show that the
Signal App had been configured for a one week auto-delete, which means
if/when it goes missing, they've violated Federal document retention
laws. This law applies regardless of classification status.
-hh
Personally, this needs to be investigated thouroughly to determine where the escape was.
Was it a simple invite error?
We all have sent emails to the wrong person based upon autofill.
Careless, but it does happen.
Was it a rogue insider leaking?
Was it a security hack into someone's phone or the Signal app itself?
I will not speculate at this point but the latest information from the WH admits
sensitive data was shared but not secret data which emails were sent to secure
mailboxes.
As for the reporter and The Atlantic, both are Trump/conservative hating so
I have to wonder why a conservative, or other MSM liberal reporter was given access to the call but instead one of the most rabid haters on the planet was.
Seems a little too coincidental to me.
Let's see how it plays out but for now Trump owns it.
On 3/26/25 18:52, pothead wrote:
On 2025-03-26, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/26/25 07:32, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Unfortunately for such spin attempts ... Goldman/Atlantic has receipts.
Which is why multiple government sources have already confirmed key
elements of the story. Its already pretty damn airtight.
Plus a Catch-22 dilemma that the Administration has is that if they now
try to claim that the Signal thread was a nothingburger because nothing
was classified (which is BS, but let's continue), then they have zero
legal basis to then try to go after the Atlantic.
Plus as of last week, the Signal App was specifically not allowed to be
installed on Gov't secure devices, so it begs the question of how did
"Sometimes Sober" Pete copy/paste the strike data over to the chat?
The prisoner's dilemma: either knowingly passed data from secured (high
side) device to unsecured (low side) device -or- had spillage from
having/allowing a prohibited App be installed onto a secure Gov device.
Both are equally bad from a criminal culpability standpoint, because
ignorance of the law isn't an excuse.
And finally...the Atlantic already has the receipts that show that the
Signal App had been configured for a one week auto-delete, which means
if/when it goes missing, they've violated Federal document retention
laws. This law applies regardless of classification status.
-hh
Personally, this needs to be investigated thouroughly to determine where the >> escape was.
Was it a simple invite error?
We all have sent emails to the wrong person based upon autofill.
Careless, but it does happen.
The invite might have been, but protocols to positively verify each
attendee didn't happen (violation), nor their need-to-know (violation).
Was it a rogue insider leaking?
Anything's possible when you didn't individually clear each attendee.
Was it a security hack into someone's phone or the Signal app itself?
Also possible, more likely at the individual phone level. Despite how
Signal likes to brag that it is encrypted, the devices its on aren't,
which is probably part of the reason why it isn't an authorized App for secure devices ... recent DoD guidance allows Signal for some very minor things, but it is not authorized even for just the FOUO/CUI level, let
alone S / TC / SCI stuff.
<https://www.npr.org/2025/03/25/nx-s1-5339801/pentagon-email-signal-vulnerability>
Another threat vector is that everyone was outside of a SCIF, so their cellular tower signals were at risk of interception...and for those who
were OCONUS, like 100% odds...and encryption can be broken by various
means today by State actors: not only huge AI farms, but this is also
why the US is concerned of foreign advancements in quantum computing:
quantum is many orders of magnitude faster than brute force.
I will not speculate at this point but the latest information from the WH admits
sensitive data was shared but not secret data which emails were sent to secure
mailboxes.
Problem is that Signal's not even authorized for use for sensitive, so
all that this announcement is doing is *trying* to protect Pete & the
others from straight-up criminal charges over classified spillage...and
yes, the details that were listed were operational & always classified
in advance.
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nsa-signal-app-vulnerabilities-before-houthi-strike-chat/>
As for the reporter and The Atlantic, both are Trump/conservative hating so >> I have to wonder why a conservative, or other MSM liberal reporter was given >> access to the call but instead one of the most rabid haters on the planet was.
Seems a little too coincidental to me.
Use of Signal to violate the Presidential Records Act is reportedly
listed in the Project 2025 playbook. This breach is indicative of it
being extensively used as a method to violate the law on document
retention, as it was set with a "one week" auto-expire.
Let's see how it plays out but for now Trump owns it.
He certainly does own it ..
.. and I read last night a short paragraph from a military SME who
pointed out the key datapoints within the Signal discussion which very reasonably could have been used within the timeframe allowed to not only protect their own people (which may have been a war crime BTW), but
harden air defenses against the F/A-18s (higher risk for our pilots) but
it also disclosed the region that our Aircraft Carrier battle fleet was, which could have come under attack as well: the "what's the worst that
could happen?" scenario is that we could have lost an entire Carrier in addition to whatever aircraft.
We got lucky a couple of ways this time that nothing bad happened, but
we've also revealed vulnerability vectors that won't be overlooked next
time by opponents. This is why this shit is taken seriously by real
adults: "Loose Lips Sink Ships".
-hh
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
Two things are crystal clear:
1. Tulsi Gabbard lied in her testimony before Congress.
2. Trump admin officials are breaking the law by using
Signal to "disappear" their communications.
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
|
| There is no administration in the world -- beyond this one
| -- where a blunder of these proportions happens and nobody
| gets fired or resigns. Not in London. Not in Moscow. Not in
| Tokyo. Not in Pyongyang. Nowhere.
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2025/03/27/whats-next-fo r-waltz-and-hegseth-00253200>
--bks
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| There is no administration in the world -- beyond this one
| -- where a blunder of these proportions happens and nobody
| gets fired or resigns. Not in London. Not in Moscow. Not in
| Tokyo. Not in Pyongyang. Nowhere.
| ... <https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2025/03/27/whats-next-for-waltz-and-hegseth-00253200>
[email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vs3ip2$7pa$[email protected]:
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
|
| There is no administration in the world -- beyond this one
| -- where a blunder of these proportions happens and nobody
| gets fired or resigns. Not in London. Not in Moscow. Not in
| Tokyo. Not in Pyongyang. Nowhere.
| ... <https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2025/03/27/whats-next-fo r-waltz-and-hegseth-00253200>
--bks
"But her emails!"
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 17:38:05 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.It is beyond dispute that Gabbard lied to Congress. Classified information was at the core of the illegal Signal chat.
Sherman) wrote:
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
Two things are crystal clear:
1. Tulsi Gabbard lied in her testimony before Congress.
2. Trump admin officials are breaking the law by using
Signal to "disappear" their communications.
--bks
How about you prove the nonsense you just claimed?
In article <lpVEP.1299224$[email protected]>,Reams of classified info was discussed.
[email protected] says...
On 3/26/2025 4:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
|
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| ...
<https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
|
| Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
| Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
| for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
| bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
| others would have been fired for the same actions.
| ...
| "If this was the case of a military officer or an
| intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
| they would be fired," he added.
|
| "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
| incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
| information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
| error."
| ...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Top secret plans for military strikes on Yemen is what they were discussing.
Nothing classified.
On 3/26/2025 9:14 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <lpVEP.1299224$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On 3/26/2025 4:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
|
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| ...
<https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
|
| Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
| Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
| for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
| bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
| others would have been fired for the same actions.
| ...
| "If this was the case of a military officer or an
| intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
| they would be fired," he added.
|
| "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
| incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
| information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
| error."
| ...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Top secret plans for military strikes on Yemen is what they were discussing.
Nothing classified.Reams of classified info was discussed.
On 3/27/2025 4:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 17:38:05 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
Two things are crystal clear:
1. Tulsi Gabbard lied in her testimony before Congress.
2. Trump admin officials are breaking the law by using
Signal to "disappear" their communications.
--bks
How about you prove the nonsense you just claimed?It is beyond dispute that Gabbard lied to Congress. Classified information was
at the core of the illegal Signal chat.
The Federal Records Act *requires* officials to preserve all communications related to official government business, which planning a military attack clearly is. Signal was used *precisely* because the records are automatically purged. That's a violation of federal law.
Stop being such a feckless cunt.
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
|
| There is no administration in the world -- beyond this one
| -- where a blunder of these proportions happens and nobody
| gets fired or resigns. Not in London. Not in Moscow. Not in
| Tokyo. Not in Pyongyang. Nowhere.
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2025/03/27/whats-next-for-waltz-and-hegseth-00253200>
--bks
In article <vs3snu$gdcu$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On 3/26/2025 9:14 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <lpVEP.1299224$[email protected]>,Reams of classified info was discussed.
[email protected] says...
On 3/26/2025 4:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
|
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| ...
<https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
|
| Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
| Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
| for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
| bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
| others would have been fired for the same actions.
| ...
| "If this was the case of a military officer or an
| intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
| they would be fired," he added.
|
| "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
| incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
| information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
| error."
| ...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Top secret plans for military strikes on Yemen is what they were discussing.
Nothing classified.
Nope and nothing top secret either.
On 2025-03-27, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/26/25 18:52, pothead wrote:
On 2025-03-26, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/26/25 07:32, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Unfortunately for such spin attempts ... Goldman/Atlantic has receipts. >>>>
Which is why multiple government sources have already confirmed key
elements of the story. Its already pretty damn airtight.
Plus a Catch-22 dilemma that the Administration has is that if they now >>>> try to claim that the Signal thread was a nothingburger because nothing >>>> was classified (which is BS, but let's continue), then they have zero
legal basis to then try to go after the Atlantic.
Plus as of last week, the Signal App was specifically not allowed to be >>>> installed on Gov't secure devices, so it begs the question of how did
"Sometimes Sober" Pete copy/paste the strike data over to the chat?
The prisoner's dilemma: either knowingly passed data from secured (high >>>> side) device to unsecured (low side) device -or- had spillage from
having/allowing a prohibited App be installed onto a secure Gov device. >>>> Both are equally bad from a criminal culpability standpoint, because
ignorance of the law isn't an excuse.
And finally...the Atlantic already has the receipts that show that the >>>> Signal App had been configured for a one week auto-delete, which means >>>> if/when it goes missing, they've violated Federal document retention
laws. This law applies regardless of classification status.
-hh
Personally, this needs to be investigated thouroughly to determine where the
escape was.
Was it a simple invite error?
We all have sent emails to the wrong person based upon autofill.
Careless, but it does happen.
The invite might have been, but protocols to positively verify each
attendee didn't happen (violation), nor their need-to-know (violation).
Was it a rogue insider leaking?
Anything's possible when you didn't individually clear each attendee.
Was it a security hack into someone's phone or the Signal app itself?
Also possible, more likely at the individual phone level. Despite how
Signal likes to brag that it is encrypted, the devices its on aren't,
which is probably part of the reason why it isn't an authorized App for
secure devices ... recent DoD guidance allows Signal for some very minor
things, but it is not authorized even for just the FOUO/CUI level, let
alone S / TC / SCI stuff.
<https://www.npr.org/2025/03/25/nx-s1-5339801/pentagon-email-signal-vulnerability>
Another threat vector is that everyone was outside of a SCIF, so their
cellular tower signals were at risk of interception...and for those who
were OCONUS, like 100% odds...and encryption can be broken by various
means today by State actors: not only huge AI farms, but this is also
why the US is concerned of foreign advancements in quantum computing:
quantum is many orders of magnitude faster than brute force.
I will not speculate at this point but the latest information from the WH admits
sensitive data was shared but not secret data which emails were sent to secure
mailboxes.
Problem is that Signal's not even authorized for use for sensitive, so
all that this announcement is doing is *trying* to protect Pete & the
others from straight-up criminal charges over classified spillage...and
yes, the details that were listed were operational & always classified
in advance.
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nsa-signal-app-vulnerabilities-before-houthi-strike-chat/>
As for the reporter and The Atlantic, both are Trump/conservative hating so >>> I have to wonder why a conservative, or other MSM liberal reporter was given
access to the call but instead one of the most rabid haters on the planet was.
Seems a little too coincidental to me.
Use of Signal to violate the Presidential Records Act is reportedly
listed in the Project 2025 playbook. This breach is indicative of it
being extensively used as a method to violate the law on document
retention, as it was set with a "one week" auto-expire.
Let's see how it plays out but for now Trump owns it.
He certainly does own it ..
.. and I read last night a short paragraph from a military SME who
pointed out the key datapoints within the Signal discussion which very
reasonably could have been used within the timeframe allowed to not only
protect their own people (which may have been a war crime BTW), but
harden air defenses against the F/A-18s (higher risk for our pilots) but
it also disclosed the region that our Aircraft Carrier battle fleet was,
which could have come under attack as well: the "what's the worst that
could happen?" scenario is that we could have lost an entire Carrier in
addition to whatever aircraft.
We got lucky a couple of ways this time that nothing bad happened, but
we've also revealed vulnerability vectors that won't be overlooked next
time by opponents. This is why this shit is taken seriously by real
adults: "Loose Lips Sink Ships".
-hh
Good post.
I confess I know nothing about Signal and in fact had never heard of it before >recently.
I know that What's App is forbidden by most large corporations due to security >concerns.
I'm interested to see how this one plays out and at this point nothing will >surprise me.
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 13:10:58 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
|
| There is no administration in the world -- beyond this one
| -- where a blunder of these proportions happens and nobody
| gets fired or resigns. Not in London. Not in Moscow. Not in
| Tokyo. Not in Pyongyang. Nowhere.
| ... >><https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2025/03/27/whats-next-for-waltz-and-hegseth-00253200>
--bks
Personally I believe someone added him on purpose. But not one person
who is rational cares about this story.
That leaves you out.
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 13:00:59 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-03-27, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/26/25 18:52, pothead wrote:
On 2025-03-26, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/26/25 07:32, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>> Sherman) wrote:
...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that >>>>>> there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Unfortunately for such spin attempts ... Goldman/Atlantic has receipts. >>>>>
Which is why multiple government sources have already confirmed key
elements of the story. Its already pretty damn airtight.
Plus a Catch-22 dilemma that the Administration has is that if they now >>>>> try to claim that the Signal thread was a nothingburger because nothing >>>>> was classified (which is BS, but let's continue), then they have zero >>>>> legal basis to then try to go after the Atlantic.
Plus as of last week, the Signal App was specifically not allowed to be >>>>> installed on Gov't secure devices, so it begs the question of how did >>>>> "Sometimes Sober" Pete copy/paste the strike data over to the chat?
The prisoner's dilemma: either knowingly passed data from secured (high >>>>> side) device to unsecured (low side) device -or- had spillage from
having/allowing a prohibited App be installed onto a secure Gov device. >>>>> Both are equally bad from a criminal culpability standpoint, because >>>>> ignorance of the law isn't an excuse.
And finally...the Atlantic already has the receipts that show that the >>>>> Signal App had been configured for a one week auto-delete, which means >>>>> if/when it goes missing, they've violated Federal document retention >>>>> laws. This law applies regardless of classification status.
-hh
Personally, this needs to be investigated thouroughly to determine where the
escape was.
Was it a simple invite error?
We all have sent emails to the wrong person based upon autofill.
Careless, but it does happen.
The invite might have been, but protocols to positively verify each
attendee didn't happen (violation), nor their need-to-know (violation).
Was it a rogue insider leaking?
Anything's possible when you didn't individually clear each attendee.
Was it a security hack into someone's phone or the Signal app itself?
Also possible, more likely at the individual phone level. Despite how
Signal likes to brag that it is encrypted, the devices its on aren't,
which is probably part of the reason why it isn't an authorized App for
secure devices ... recent DoD guidance allows Signal for some very minor >>> things, but it is not authorized even for just the FOUO/CUI level, let
alone S / TC / SCI stuff.
<https://www.npr.org/2025/03/25/nx-s1-5339801/pentagon-email-signal-vulnerability>
Another threat vector is that everyone was outside of a SCIF, so their
cellular tower signals were at risk of interception...and for those who
were OCONUS, like 100% odds...and encryption can be broken by various
means today by State actors: not only huge AI farms, but this is also
why the US is concerned of foreign advancements in quantum computing:
quantum is many orders of magnitude faster than brute force.
I will not speculate at this point but the latest information from the WH admits
sensitive data was shared but not secret data which emails were sent to secure
mailboxes.
Problem is that Signal's not even authorized for use for sensitive, so
all that this announcement is doing is *trying* to protect Pete & the
others from straight-up criminal charges over classified spillage...and
yes, the details that were listed were operational & always classified
in advance.
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nsa-signal-app-vulnerabilities-before-houthi-strike-chat/>
As for the reporter and The Atlantic, both are Trump/conservative hating so
I have to wonder why a conservative, or other MSM liberal reporter was given
access to the call but instead one of the most rabid haters on the planet was.
Seems a little too coincidental to me.
Use of Signal to violate the Presidential Records Act is reportedly
listed in the Project 2025 playbook. This breach is indicative of it
being extensively used as a method to violate the law on document
retention, as it was set with a "one week" auto-expire.
Let's see how it plays out but for now Trump owns it.
He certainly does own it ..
.. and I read last night a short paragraph from a military SME who
pointed out the key datapoints within the Signal discussion which very
reasonably could have been used within the timeframe allowed to not only >>> protect their own people (which may have been a war crime BTW), but
harden air defenses against the F/A-18s (higher risk for our pilots) but >>> it also disclosed the region that our Aircraft Carrier battle fleet was, >>> which could have come under attack as well: the "what's the worst that
could happen?" scenario is that we could have lost an entire Carrier in
addition to whatever aircraft.
We got lucky a couple of ways this time that nothing bad happened, but
we've also revealed vulnerability vectors that won't be overlooked next
time by opponents. This is why this shit is taken seriously by real
adults: "Loose Lips Sink Ships".
-hh
Good post.
I confess I know nothing about Signal and in fact had never heard of it before
recently.
I know that What's App is forbidden by most large corporations due to security
concerns.
I'm interested to see how this one plays out and at this point nothing will >>surprise me.
The reporter needs be charged. It most certainly can't be legal to
publish official governent conversations. He can't hide behind the
usual "sources" nonsense because he himself is the source.
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 13:10:58 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
| These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
| but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
|
| There is no administration in the world -- beyond this one
| -- where a blunder of these proportions happens and nobody
| gets fired or resigns. Not in London. Not in Moscow. Not in
| Tokyo. Not in Pyongyang. Nowhere.
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2025/03/27/whats-next-for-waltz-and-hegseth-00253200>
--bks
Personally I believe
someone added him on purpose.
On 2025-03-28, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 13:00:59 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-03-27, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/26/25 18:52, pothead wrote:
On 2025-03-26, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/26/25 07:32, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:
...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that >>>>>>> there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Unfortunately for such spin attempts ... Goldman/Atlantic has receipts. >>>>>>
Which is why multiple government sources have already confirmed key >>>>>> elements of the story. Its already pretty damn airtight.
Plus a Catch-22 dilemma that the Administration has is that if they now >>>>>> try to claim that the Signal thread was a nothingburger because nothing >>>>>> was classified (which is BS, but let's continue), then they have zero >>>>>> legal basis to then try to go after the Atlantic.
Plus as of last week, the Signal App was specifically not allowed to be >>>>>> installed on Gov't secure devices, so it begs the question of how did >>>>>> "Sometimes Sober" Pete copy/paste the strike data over to the chat? >>>>>>
The prisoner's dilemma: either knowingly passed data from secured (high >>>>>> side) device to unsecured (low side) device -or- had spillage from >>>>>> having/allowing a prohibited App be installed onto a secure Gov device. >>>>>> Both are equally bad from a criminal culpability standpoint, because >>>>>> ignorance of the law isn't an excuse.
And finally...the Atlantic already has the receipts that show that the >>>>>> Signal App had been configured for a one week auto-delete, which means >>>>>> if/when it goes missing, they've violated Federal document retention >>>>>> laws. This law applies regardless of classification status.
-hh
Personally, this needs to be investigated thouroughly to determine where the
escape was.
Was it a simple invite error?
We all have sent emails to the wrong person based upon autofill.
Careless, but it does happen.
The invite might have been, but protocols to positively verify each
attendee didn't happen (violation), nor their need-to-know (violation). >>>>
Was it a rogue insider leaking?
Anything's possible when you didn't individually clear each attendee.
Was it a security hack into someone's phone or the Signal app itself? >>>>Also possible, more likely at the individual phone level. Despite how >>>> Signal likes to brag that it is encrypted, the devices its on aren't,
which is probably part of the reason why it isn't an authorized App for >>>> secure devices ... recent DoD guidance allows Signal for some very minor >>>> things, but it is not authorized even for just the FOUO/CUI level, let >>>> alone S / TC / SCI stuff.
<https://www.npr.org/2025/03/25/nx-s1-5339801/pentagon-email-signal-vulnerability>
Another threat vector is that everyone was outside of a SCIF, so their >>>> cellular tower signals were at risk of interception...and for those who >>>> were OCONUS, like 100% odds...and encryption can be broken by various
means today by State actors: not only huge AI farms, but this is also >>>> why the US is concerned of foreign advancements in quantum computing:
quantum is many orders of magnitude faster than brute force.
I will not speculate at this point but the latest information from the WH admits
sensitive data was shared but not secret data which emails were sent to secure
mailboxes.
Problem is that Signal's not even authorized for use for sensitive, so >>>> all that this announcement is doing is *trying* to protect Pete & the
others from straight-up criminal charges over classified spillage...and >>>> yes, the details that were listed were operational & always classified >>>> in advance.
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nsa-signal-app-vulnerabilities-before-houthi-strike-chat/>
As for the reporter and The Atlantic, both are Trump/conservative hating so
I have to wonder why a conservative, or other MSM liberal reporter was given
access to the call but instead one of the most rabid haters on the planet was.
Seems a little too coincidental to me.
Use of Signal to violate the Presidential Records Act is reportedly
listed in the Project 2025 playbook. This breach is indicative of it
being extensively used as a method to violate the law on document
retention, as it was set with a "one week" auto-expire.
Let's see how it plays out but for now Trump owns it.
He certainly does own it ..
.. and I read last night a short paragraph from a military SME who
pointed out the key datapoints within the Signal discussion which very >>>> reasonably could have been used within the timeframe allowed to not only >>>> protect their own people (which may have been a war crime BTW), but
harden air defenses against the F/A-18s (higher risk for our pilots) but >>>> it also disclosed the region that our Aircraft Carrier battle fleet was, >>>> which could have come under attack as well: the "what's the worst that >>>> could happen?" scenario is that we could have lost an entire Carrier in >>>> addition to whatever aircraft.
We got lucky a couple of ways this time that nothing bad happened, but >>>> we've also revealed vulnerability vectors that won't be overlooked next >>>> time by opponents. This is why this shit is taken seriously by real
adults: "Loose Lips Sink Ships".
-hh
Good post.
I confess I know nothing about Signal and in fact had never heard of it before
recently.
I know that What's App is forbidden by most large corporations due to security
concerns.
I'm interested to see how this one plays out and at this point nothing will >>> surprise me.
The reporter needs be charged. It most certainly can't be legal to
publish official governent conversations. He can't hide behind the
usual "sources" nonsense because he himself is the source.
It's going to get interesting for sure.
The left wing media are foaming at the mouth of this one but the average person
doesn't really give a hoot.
It happened. Fix it so it never happens again and
move on.
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 13:00:59 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-03-27, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/26/25 18:52, pothead wrote:
On 2025-03-26, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/26/25 07:32, NoBody wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>> Sherman) wrote:
...
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
--bks
They're DUI hires.
I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that >>>>>> there were any plans discussed in the chat.
Unfortunately for such spin attempts ... Goldman/Atlantic has receipts. >>>>>
Which is why multiple government sources have already confirmed key
elements of the story. Its already pretty damn airtight.
Plus a Catch-22 dilemma that the Administration has is that if they now >>>>> try to claim that the Signal thread was a nothingburger because nothing >>>>> was classified (which is BS, but let's continue), then they have zero >>>>> legal basis to then try to go after the Atlantic.
Plus as of last week, the Signal App was specifically not allowed to be >>>>> installed on Gov't secure devices, so it begs the question of how did >>>>> "Sometimes Sober" Pete copy/paste the strike data over to the chat?
The prisoner's dilemma: either knowingly passed data from secured (high >>>>> side) device to unsecured (low side) device -or- had spillage from
having/allowing a prohibited App be installed onto a secure Gov device. >>>>> Both are equally bad from a criminal culpability standpoint, because >>>>> ignorance of the law isn't an excuse.
And finally...the Atlantic already has the receipts that show that the >>>>> Signal App had been configured for a one week auto-delete, which means >>>>> if/when it goes missing, they've violated Federal document retention >>>>> laws. This law applies regardless of classification status.
-hh
Personally, this needs to be investigated thouroughly to determine where the
escape was.
Was it a simple invite error?
We all have sent emails to the wrong person based upon autofill.
Careless, but it does happen.
The invite might have been, but protocols to positively verify each
attendee didn't happen (violation), nor their need-to-know (violation).
Was it a rogue insider leaking?
Anything's possible when you didn't individually clear each attendee.
Was it a security hack into someone's phone or the Signal app itself?
Also possible, more likely at the individual phone level. Despite how
Signal likes to brag that it is encrypted, the devices its on aren't,
which is probably part of the reason why it isn't an authorized App for
secure devices ... recent DoD guidance allows Signal for some very minor >>> things, but it is not authorized even for just the FOUO/CUI level, let
alone S / TC / SCI stuff.
<https://www.npr.org/2025/03/25/nx-s1-5339801/pentagon-email-signal-vulnerability>
Another threat vector is that everyone was outside of a SCIF, so their
cellular tower signals were at risk of interception...and for those who
were OCONUS, like 100% odds...and encryption can be broken by various
means today by State actors: not only huge AI farms, but this is also
why the US is concerned of foreign advancements in quantum computing:
quantum is many orders of magnitude faster than brute force.
I will not speculate at this point but the latest information from the WH admits
sensitive data was shared but not secret data which emails were sent to secure
mailboxes.
Problem is that Signal's not even authorized for use for sensitive, so
all that this announcement is doing is *trying* to protect Pete & the
others from straight-up criminal charges over classified spillage...and
yes, the details that were listed were operational & always classified
in advance.
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nsa-signal-app-vulnerabilities-before-houthi-strike-chat/>
As for the reporter and The Atlantic, both are Trump/conservative hating so
I have to wonder why a conservative, or other MSM liberal reporter was given
access to the call but instead one of the most rabid haters on the planet was.
Seems a little too coincidental to me.
Use of Signal to violate the Presidential Records Act is reportedly
listed in the Project 2025 playbook. This breach is indicative of it
being extensively used as a method to violate the law on document
retention, as it was set with a "one week" auto-expire.
Let's see how it plays out but for now Trump owns it.
He certainly does own it ..
.. and I read last night a short paragraph from a military SME who
pointed out the key datapoints within the Signal discussion which very
reasonably could have been used within the timeframe allowed to not only >>> protect their own people (which may have been a war crime BTW), but
harden air defenses against the F/A-18s (higher risk for our pilots) but >>> it also disclosed the region that our Aircraft Carrier battle fleet was, >>> which could have come under attack as well: the "what's the worst that
could happen?" scenario is that we could have lost an entire Carrier in
addition to whatever aircraft.
We got lucky a couple of ways this time that nothing bad happened, but
we've also revealed vulnerability vectors that won't be overlooked next
time by opponents. This is why this shit is taken seriously by real
adults: "Loose Lips Sink Ships".
-hh
Good post.
I confess I know nothing about Signal and in fact had never heard of it before
recently.
I know that What's App is forbidden by most large corporations due to security
concerns.
I'm interested to see how this one plays out and at this point nothing will >> surprise me.
The reporter needs be charged.
It most certainly can't be legal to publish official governent [sic] conversations.
He can't hide behind the usual "sources" nonsense because he himself is the source.
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get. >>>>>>>>>>>> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots, >>>>>>>>>>>> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
FFS, he's the *National Security Adviser*:
|
| Waltz and staff used Gmail for government communications,
| officials say
|
| Trump's national security adviser is trying to manage his
| way out of a crisis. But new revelations about his team's
| operational security are piling up in the inbox.
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/04/01/waltz-national-security-council-signal-gmail/>
--bks
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get. >>>>>>>>>>>>> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots, >>>>>>>>>>>>> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| Waltz and staff used Gmail for government communications,
| officials say
| My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
| Waltz and staff used Gmail for government communications,
| officials say
|
| NSA warned of vulnerabilities in Signal app a month before
| Houthi strike chat
| ...
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nsa-signal-app-vulnerabilities-before-houthi-strike-chat/>
|
| The Leaked Signal Chat, Annotated
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/25/us/signal-group-chat-text-annotations.html>
--bks
On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 19:48:13 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
DUI hires:
|
| Waltz's team set up at least 20 Signal group chats for
| crises across the world
|
| It's a more extensive use of the app than previously
| reported and sheds new light on how commonly the Trump
| administration's national security team relies on Signal.
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/02/waltzs-team-set-up-at-least-20-signal-group-chats-for-crises-across-the-world-00266845>
<facepalm>
So what were all the trillions spent on communication systems and
networks since, oh, I don't know, the first decoder ring?
Governor Swill wrote:
On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 19:48:13 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
DUI hires:
|
| Waltz's team set up at least 20 Signal group chats for
| crises across the world
|
| It's a more extensive use of the app than previously
| reported and sheds new light on how commonly the Trump
| administration's national security team relies on Signal.
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/02/waltzs-team-set-up-at-least-20-signal-group-chats-for-crises-across-the-world-00266845>
<facepalm>
So what were all the trillions spent on communication systems and
networks since, oh, I don't know, the first decoder ring?
be. sure. to. drink. your. ovaltine.
| Trump confirms National Security Council firings as Waltz's
| Signal chat woes snowball
| Trump confirms National Security Council firings as Waltz's
| Signal chat woes snowball
|
| Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's personal phone number, the
| one used in a recent Signal chat, was easily accessible on
| the internet and public apps as recently as March,
| potentially exposing national security secrets to foreign
| adversaries.
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/25/us/politics/pete-hegseth-phone-signal.html>
|
| Inside the Fiasco at the National Security Council
|
| Firings and leadership challenges have destabilized an
| institution that has little margin for error.
| ...
<https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/04/national-security-council-fiasco/682595/>
--bks
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:41:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| Trump confirms National Security Council firings as Waltz's
| Signal chat woes snowball
|
| Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's personal phone number, the
| one used in a recent Signal chat, was easily accessible on
| the internet and public apps as recently as March,
| potentially exposing national security secrets to foreign
| adversaries.
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/25/us/politics/pete-hegseth-phone-signal.html>
|
| Inside the Fiasco at the National Security Council
|
| Firings and leadership challenges have destabilized an
| institution that has little margin for error.
| ...
<https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/04/national-security-council-fiasco/682595/>
--bks
The leakers are being found and removed. Sounds like a success story
to me (your "sources say" nonense not withstanding).
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:41:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| Trump confirms National Security Council firings as Waltz's
| Signal chat woes snowball
|
| Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's personal phone number, the
| one used in a recent Signal chat, was easily accessible on
| the internet and public apps as recently as March,
| potentially exposing national security secrets to foreign
| adversaries.
| ... >><https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/25/us/politics/pete-hegseth-phone-signal.html>
|
| Inside the Fiasco at the National Security Council
|
| Firings and leadership challenges have destabilized an
| institution that has little margin for error.
| ... >><https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/04/national-security-council-fiasco/682595/>
--bks
The leakers are being found and removed. Sounds like a success story
to me (your "sources say" nonense not withstanding).
| Trump confirms National Security Council firings as Waltz's
| Signal chat woes snowball
| Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's personal phone number, the
| one used in a recent Signal chat, was easily accessible on
| the internet and public apps as recently as March,
| potentially exposing national security secrets to foreign
| adversaries.
| Inside the Fiasco at the National Security Council
|
| Firings and leadership challenges have destabilized an
| institution that has little margin for error.
You need to upgrade your interocitor.
| Trump confirms National Security Council firings as Waltz's
| Signal chat woes snowball
| Trump to Oust National Security Adviser Mike Waltz
| Trump confirms National Security Council firings as Waltz's
| Signal chat woes snowball
| Trump to Oust National Security Adviser Mike Waltz
| Donald Trump's ousted National Security Adviser Mike Waltz
| faces fresh controversy after being spotted using Signal on
| his cell phone during a cabinet meeting.
| Trump confirms National Security Council firings as Waltz's
| Signal chat woes snowball
| Trump to Oust National Security Adviser Mike Waltz
| Donald Trump's ousted National Security Adviser Mike Waltz
| faces fresh controversy after being spotted using Signal on
| his cell phone during a cabinet meeting.
| The Signal Clone the Trump Admin Uses Was Hacked
| Trump confirms National Security Council firings as Waltz's >>>>>>>>> | Signal chat woes snowball
| Trump to Oust National Security Adviser Mike Waltz
| The Signal Clone the Trump Admin Uses Was Hacked
| Hegseth Used Multiple Signal Chats for Official Pentagon
| Business
|
| THE LAST WALTZ? Questions are swirling this morning about
| the future of national security adviser Mike Waltz over his
| role in what is surely -- hands-down -- one of the dumbest
| security breaches of recent times. Waltz has yet to comment
| publicly on The Atlantic's jaw-dropping revelation that he
| set up an unsecured Signal chat group to discuss military
| battle plans with Cabinet colleagues -- and then
| accidentally invited Atlantic editor-in-chief Jeffrey
| Goldberg to join. POLITICO's Dasha Burns, Rachael Bade and
| Eli Stokols revealed last night that multiple conversations
| are now underway among White House officials over whether
| Waltz should be forced to resign. All eyes are on the
| commander-in-chief for a final decision.
|
| What's on Trump's mind? Ominously for Waltz, there has been
| no message of support thus far from the president, who
| instead spent last night posting videos on Truth Social
| about his own achievements. In fact, Trump -- normally a
| vocal armchair pundit -- has not commented at all on the
| story, beyond a few initial boilerplate attacks on The
| Atlantic. All the signs are he's mulling his options.
|
| Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
| Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
| just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
| it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
| dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
| incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
| chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
| group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
| country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2025/03/25/signalgate-00246 >894>
--bks
| Trump confirms National Security Council firings as Waltz's >>>>>>>>>> | Signal chat woes snowball
| Trump to Oust National Security Adviser Mike Waltz
| The Signal Clone the Trump Admin Uses Was Hacked
| Hegseth Used Multiple Signal Chats for Official Pentagon
| Business
DUI hire "Whiskey Pete" is going down:
|
| The Defense Department inspector general's office is
| examining whether it was Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth or
| an aide, perhaps acting at his behest, who used Hegseth's
| account on the unclassified chat application Signal to
| divulge detailed information about forthcoming air attacks
| on Yemen, according to people familiar with the Pentagon
| watchdog's work and communications reviewed by The
| Washington Post.
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/06/06/hegseth-signalgate-inspector-general/>
--bks
| Trump confirms National Security Council firings as Waltz's >>>>>>>>>>> | Signal chat woes snowball
| Trump to Oust National Security Adviser Mike Waltz
| The Signal Clone the Trump Admin Uses Was Hacked
| Trump confirms National Security Council firings as Waltz's >>>>>>>>>>>> | Signal chat woes snowball
| Trump to Oust National Security Adviser Mike Waltz
| The Signal Clone the Trump Admin Uses Was Hacked
|
| Hegseth Signal messages came from email classified
| 'SECRET,' watchdog told
|
| The revelation contradicts the Trump administration's
| longstanding claims that no classified information was
| shared by the defense secretary's account during the
| "Signalgate" scandal.
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/07/23/hegseth-signalgate-classified-secret/>
--bks
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