https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14524581/America-threatened- revenge-attack-furious-Middle-East.html
America threatened with sinister revenge attack from
furious Middle Eastern nation
The Islamic Republic of Iran has threatened the US with
bloodcurdling revenge after president Donald Trump said
they would be held responsible for attacks by the Houthis
in Yemen.
The Middle Eastern nation's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali
Khamenei said on state television that any country who
attacked his would 'receive a severe blow.' His warnings
were then amplified on social media.
The tyrant's threats come after president Trump on Monday
explicitly linked the actions of Yemen’s Houthi rebels to
the group’s main benefactor, Iran, warning Tehran it would
'suffer the consequences' for further attacks against the
west by the group.
. . .
Ok, by now for sure, Iran is a nuclear power. Probably
was quite awhile ago. It's 1940s tech folks and Iran
has both the brains and means - and motive.
However Iran is short on long-range missiles or
bombers. They may HAVE nukes, but how to DELIVER
the things ?
Well, the world offers options ... hire dope smugglers
to bring 'em directly into the USA, sneak 'em onto
other-flagged cargo ships or even FedEx.
Before it went totally Wokie, Scientific American had
an informative article about nukes - and how especially
uranium-based weapons don't really have much of a rad
'signature' to detect. Authorities were re-assuring us
after 9-11, but the truth was something different.
Iran has GOBS of uranium. It may have nukes already
here, just waiting for a phone call or radio signal
or a jihadist fanatic eager to push the button.
Iran likely also has chem/bio warfare agents too.
So, BE CAREFUL ! It's run by fanatics and may
very well have more bite than we'd like to think.
Oh, attacking Iran's enrichment facilities ... this
would send large radioactive plumes - likely up into
Russia and maybe even China depending on the wind.
Not so great ....
Long back we DID cyber-attack their facilities using
flaws in the Siemens controllers running their centrifuges.
Made 'em run wild and break down. Expensive to replace.
However they're on to that trick now.
As to the 1940s technology, I doubt Iran would throw together an
Enola Gay type bomber and drop a Fat Boy on Tel Aviv using a
parachute. The Houthi's are doing a good job of jacking up
insurance rates for ships going through the Red Sea, which
redirect lots of shipping around the Cape at the bottom of Africa,
making Israel's war on Hamas, Syria, and other neighbors very
costly for Europa -- which is their intention.
Doctor Fill wrote:
As to the 1940s technology, I doubt Iran would throw together an Enola
Gay type bomber and drop a Fat Boy on Tel Aviv using a parachute. The
Houthi's are doing a good job of jacking up insurance rates for ships
going through the Red Sea, which redirect lots of shipping around the
Cape at the bottom of Africa, making Israel's war on Hamas, Syria, and
other neighbors very costly for Europa -- which is their intention.
After the French relieved their king of his meddlesome head, the
remaining Europe--all kingdoms--did not want their peasants to get
ideas, so they started wars against France.
When Shiite Iran made itself a republic, the Sunni kingdoms did not want their peasants to get ideas, so they started wars against Iran.
Iran responded by creating a ring of allies around the Sunni kingdoms.
Yemen is the last piece.
KSA responded by starting a war and genocide. The USA ever the Saudi's
whore and useful idiot, supplied KSA with tools of war and genocide, and
we said nothing as KSA slaughterred and starved Yemen.
Yemen have found a vulnerability of KSA's suppliers and allies. It
trying to use that to free itself of KSA.
In the 1950s it is admitted and well known, at least in Iran, that the
USA was part of the conspiracy that overturned the Iranian republic (so
that Merrie Olde England could continue robbing them), installing the
Shah and his beloved Savak.
Iranians eventually got rid of their Shah again and made themselves
another republic. The USA, true to form, which had shelterred German and Japanese war criminals to demonstrate our deep devotion to peace and
justice, the USA shelterred an Iranian war criminal, the Shah.
When the Sunni kingdoms bribed Iraq to overthrow the Iranian Revolution,
the USA was johnny-on-the-spot, and aided Iraq against Iran.
Iranians finally got a wee bit peeved and captured the embassy of the so totally innocent USA.
I cannot possibly see what they were upset over.
Because of this we must hates Iran forever. We can never rest until
Savak again brings peace to that hell hole.
Extra credit work: Young Iranian are become annoyed with their
government's religious dogma and extremism. They would welcome a
peaceful evolution to a less severe Iranian Republic. The USA has
dedicated itself to pissing in their face to strengthen the hand of our eternal enemy.
Oh, and those smugly reassuring themselves Iran is too deep in the stone
age to drop a nuclear bomb on the USA, Iran has put a satellite in
orbit. Physics being what physics is, once you are able to put a
satellite in orbit, you are also able to de-orbit the satellite and drop
it anywhere on the planet. Say....a white house. If Iran has a weapon no heavier than the spy satellite, that is that: they can nuke the USA
anytime they want.
The odd bit ... all the sanctions against Iran starting long ago
encouraged/forced them to develop a strong 'DIY' industry ... which
includes military and physics.
A lot of smart people there, a lot of DIY innovations that are
entirely off the global-trade radar.
On 3/22/2025 2:09 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
Doctor Fill wrote:
As to the 1940s technology, I doubt Iran would throw together an
Enola Gay type bomber and drop a Fat Boy on Tel Aviv using a
parachute. The Houthi's are doing a good job of jacking up insurance
rates for ships going through the Red Sea, which redirect lots of
shipping around the Cape at the bottom of Africa, making Israel's war
on Hamas, Syria, and other neighbors very costly for Europa -- which
is their intention.
After the French relieved their king of his meddlesome head, the
remaining Europe--all kingdoms--did not want their peasants to get
ideas, so they started wars against France.
When Shiite Iran made itself a republic, the Sunni kingdoms did not
want their peasants to get ideas, so they started wars against Iran.
Iran responded by creating a ring of allies around the Sunni kingdoms.
Yemen is the last piece.
KSA responded by starting a war and genocide. The USA ever the Saudi's
whore and useful idiot, supplied KSA with tools of war and genocide,
and we said nothing as KSA slaughterred and starved Yemen.
Yemen have found a vulnerability of KSA's suppliers and allies. It
trying to use that to free itself of KSA.
In the 1950s it is admitted and well known, at least in Iran, that the
USA was part of the conspiracy that overturned the Iranian republic
(so that Merrie Olde England could continue robbing them), installing
the Shah and his beloved Savak.
Iranians eventually got rid of their Shah again and made themselves
another republic. The USA, true to form, which had shelterred German
and Japanese war criminals to demonstrate our deep devotion to peace
and justice, the USA shelterred an Iranian war criminal, the Shah.
When the Sunni kingdoms bribed Iraq to overthrow the Iranian
Revolution, the USA was johnny-on-the-spot, and aided Iraq against Iran.
Iranians finally got a wee bit peeved and captured the embassy of the
so totally innocent USA.
I cannot possibly see what they were upset over.
Because of this we must hates Iran forever. We can never rest until
Savak again brings peace to that hell hole.
Extra credit work: Young Iranian are become annoyed with their
government's religious dogma and extremism. They would welcome a
peaceful evolution to a less severe Iranian Republic. The USA has
dedicated itself to pissing in their face to strengthen the hand of
our eternal enemy.
Oh, and those smugly reassuring themselves Iran is too deep in the
stone age to drop a nuclear bomb on the USA, Iran has put a satellite
in orbit. Physics being what physics is, once you are able to put a
satellite in orbit, you are also able to de-orbit the satellite and
drop it anywhere on the planet. Say....a white house. If Iran has a
weapon no heavier than the spy satellite, that is that: they can nuke
the USA anytime they want.
The original poster, poor punctuation and all,
was the person remarking
that nuclear fission bombs were 1940s technology, so my comment was
meant to be facetious, not as an insult to Iranian nuclear scientists or rocket engineers.
Your history refresher is well taken and shows that you are a more
informed and educated person than your usual usenet comments would have
ever suggested.
It has crossed my mind over the years that if North Korea or Iran were
to use, say, a 25 kiloton fission bomb or bombs to take out, say NYC,
the District of Columbia, and perhaps London, Tel Aviv, and Brussels,
the irony might be that "far right" political parties in the former
"Free World" might see the acts as a net positive while the neo-cons
would join the far left types to indulge in expressing "outrage" at
Little Rocketman and the Ayatollah. It might make for a best seller
fictional thriller type novel at the very least. Sort of an
international genre in the spirit of the Turner Diaries. (pardon my poor diction, lol.)
On 3/22/2025 12:16 AM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14524581/America-threatened-
revenge-attack-furious-Middle-East.html
America threatened with sinister revenge attack from
furious Middle Eastern nation
The Islamic Republic of Iran has threatened the US with
bloodcurdling revenge after president Donald Trump said
they would be held responsible for attacks by the Houthis
in Yemen.
The Middle Eastern nation's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali
Khamenei said on state television that any country who
attacked his would 'receive a severe blow.' His warnings
were then amplified on social media.
The tyrant's threats come after president Trump on Monday
explicitly linked the actions of Yemen’s Houthi rebels to
the group’s main benefactor, Iran, warning Tehran it would
'suffer the consequences' for further attacks against the
west by the group.
. . .
Ok, by now for sure, Iran is a nuclear power. Probably
was quite awhile ago. It's 1940s tech folks and Iran
has both the brains and means - and motive.
However Iran is short on long-range missiles or
bombers. They may HAVE nukes, but how to DELIVER
the things ?
Well, the world offers options ... hire dope smugglers
to bring 'em directly into the USA, sneak 'em onto
other-flagged cargo ships or even FedEx.
Before it went totally Wokie, Scientific American had
an informative article about nukes - and how especially
uranium-based weapons don't really have much of a rad
'signature' to detect. Authorities were re-assuring us
after 9-11, but the truth was something different.
Iran has GOBS of uranium. It may have nukes already
here, just waiting for a phone call or radio signal
or a jihadist fanatic eager to push the button.
Iran likely also has chem/bio warfare agents too.
So, BE CAREFUL ! It's run by fanatics and may
very well have more bite than we'd like to think.
Oh, attacking Iran's enrichment facilities ... this
would send large radioactive plumes - likely up into
Russia and maybe even China depending on the wind.
Not so great ....
Long back we DID cyber-attack their facilities using
flaws in the Siemens controllers running their centrifuges.
Made 'em run wild and break down. Expensive to replace.
However they're on to that trick now.
Very good, timely questions you pose. Israel has assassinated dozens of Iranian scientists in the nuclear field using assassins on motorcycles,
bombs attached to personal vehicles, exploding cell phones, and possibly
some plane crashes.
As to the 1940s technology, I doubt Iran would throw together an Enola
Gay type bomber and drop a Fat Boy on Tel Aviv using a parachute. The Houthi's are doing a good job of jacking up insurance rates for ships
going through the Red Sea, which redirect lots of shipping around the
Cape at the bottom of Africa, making Israel's war on Hamas, Syria, and
other neighbors very costly for Europa -- which is their intention.
The explosion of the transformer at Heathrow Airport is believed by some
to be an act of sabotage by Russia, but it could be by some other actors
on the world stage. Expect to see more disruptions of international air travel and ships mysteriously crashing into each other as per the recent
ship carrying aviation fuel for the U.S. Navy and another ship carrying cyanide, with both burning and sinking and the Western media
surprisingly blase' about such avents and moving on to some other
"story" very quickly.
On 3/22/25 11:51 AM, Doctor Fill wrote:
On 3/22/2025 12:16 AM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14524581/America-threatened-
revenge-attack-furious-Middle-East.html
America threatened with sinister revenge attack from
furious Middle Eastern nation
The Islamic Republic of Iran has threatened the US with
bloodcurdling revenge after president Donald Trump said
they would be held responsible for attacks by the Houthis
in Yemen.
The Middle Eastern nation's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali
Khamenei said on state television that any country who
attacked his would 'receive a severe blow.' His warnings
were then amplified on social media.
The tyrant's threats come after president Trump on Monday
explicitly linked the actions of Yemen’s Houthi rebels to
the group’s main benefactor, Iran, warning Tehran it would
'suffer the consequences' for further attacks against the
west by the group.
. . .
Ok, by now for sure, Iran is a nuclear power. Probably
was quite awhile ago. It's 1940s tech folks and Iran
has both the brains and means - and motive.
However Iran is short on long-range missiles or
bombers. They may HAVE nukes, but how to DELIVER
the things ?
Well, the world offers options ... hire dope smugglers
to bring 'em directly into the USA, sneak 'em onto
other-flagged cargo ships or even FedEx.
Before it went totally Wokie, Scientific American had
an informative article about nukes - and how especially
uranium-based weapons don't really have much of a rad
'signature' to detect. Authorities were re-assuring us
after 9-11, but the truth was something different.
Iran has GOBS of uranium. It may have nukes already
here, just waiting for a phone call or radio signal
or a jihadist fanatic eager to push the button.
Iran likely also has chem/bio warfare agents too.
So, BE CAREFUL ! It's run by fanatics and may
very well have more bite than we'd like to think.
Oh, attacking Iran's enrichment facilities ... this
would send large radioactive plumes - likely up into
Russia and maybe even China depending on the wind.
Not so great ....
Long back we DID cyber-attack their facilities using
flaws in the Siemens controllers running their centrifuges.
Made 'em run wild and break down. Expensive to replace.
However they're on to that trick now.
Very good, timely questions you pose. Israel has assassinated dozens
of Iranian scientists in the nuclear field using assassins on
motorcycles, bombs attached to personal vehicles, exploding cell
phones, and possibly some plane crashes.
Israel is rightly worried ... and I think in some cases
acts as proxy commandos for US interests in the region.
The odd bit ... all the sanctions against Iran starting
long ago encouraged/forced them to develop a strong
'DIY' industry ... which includes military and physics.
A lot of smart people there, a lot of DIY innovations
that are entirely off the global-trade radar.
Secret enrichment facilities have been strongly rumored
for over a decade ... underground, some under large cities.
Iran's current uranium products are only about a step away
from 'weapons grade' as is ... and, as it sees things,
'persecuted', they'd have a major motive in making that
final step somewhere out-of-sight. Computer sims now mean
they don't HAVE to test bombs ... they'll just know the
designs will work.
(note 1945 ... the 1st nuke explosion was the prototype
plutonium bomb. They HAD to test that ... but the uranium
bomb, even then, they just knew it'd work OK)
What I don't know is how easy it is these days to make
a 'fusion-boosted' bomb - increase the yield a few times
just by adding a capsule of lithium deuteride maybe with
a squirt of tritium next to the trigger. India tried it
way back and REPORTED failure ... dunno about today.
As to the 1940s technology, I doubt Iran would throw together an Enola
Gay type bomber and drop a Fat Boy on Tel Aviv using a parachute. The
Houthi's are doing a good job of jacking up insurance rates for ships
going through the Red Sea, which redirect lots of shipping around the
Cape at the bottom of Africa, making Israel's war on Hamas, Syria, and
other neighbors very costly for Europa -- which is their intention.
Iran is engineering an ongoing DRAG on EuroAmerican biz.
It is a 'cold war' sort of tactic.
The Houthi don't require a massive army to do that, just
a handful of precise missiles, which Iran easily provides.
Iran could also close the Strait of Hormuz easily in
an instant if it wanted.
The explosion of the transformer at Heathrow Airport is believed by
some to be an act of sabotage by Russia, but it could be by some other
actors on the world stage. Expect to see more disruptions of
international air travel and ships mysteriously crashing into each
other as per the recent ship carrying aviation fuel for the U.S. Navy
and another ship carrying cyanide, with both burning and sinking and
the Western media surprisingly blase' about such avents and moving on
to some other "story" very quickly.
Today's story - PERHAPS just a "story" - is that the Heathrow
transformer was "just old" and shorted out. Whether the story
is true, or a stop-panic propaganda cover, is unclear. If the
latter, the truth will soon slip from the workers involved
in the repair effort.
Those huge transformers - used everywhere - ARE very vulnerable.
They are expensive, sometimes custom made, so it's not like there
is a huge reserve stock sitting around. I once saw a report that
most were made in France. Not gonna get rapid deliveries except
maybe by some 'Pregnant Guppy' style aircraft.
In any case, Putin has a well-known fetish for destroying
electrical infrastructure, knowing the scope of impact and
expense of repairs. NO reason he, maybe via Iran, would not
have agents do such things in the UK. The UK is not doing
very well financially or socially any more. This makes the
impact of infrastructure attacks even worse. Demoralize,
debilitate.
On 3/22/25 5:52 PM, Doctor Fill wrote:
On 3/22/2025 2:09 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
Doctor Fill wrote:
As to the 1940s technology, I doubt Iran would throw together an
Enola Gay type bomber and drop a Fat Boy on Tel Aviv using a
parachute. The Houthi's are doing a good job of jacking up
insurance rates for ships going through the Red Sea, which redirect
lots of shipping around the Cape at the bottom of Africa, making
Israel's war on Hamas, Syria, and other neighbors very costly for
Europa -- which is their intention.
After the French relieved their king of his meddlesome head, the
remaining Europe--all kingdoms--did not want their peasants to get
ideas, so they started wars against France.
When Shiite Iran made itself a republic, the Sunni kingdoms did not
want their peasants to get ideas, so they started wars against Iran.
Iran responded by creating a ring of allies around the Sunni
kingdoms. Yemen is the last piece.
KSA responded by starting a war and genocide. The USA ever the
Saudi's whore and useful idiot, supplied KSA with tools of war and
genocide, and we said nothing as KSA slaughterred and starved Yemen.
Yemen have found a vulnerability of KSA's suppliers and allies. It
trying to use that to free itself of KSA.
In the 1950s it is admitted and well known, at least in Iran, that
the USA was part of the conspiracy that overturned the Iranian
republic (so that Merrie Olde England could continue robbing them),
installing the Shah and his beloved Savak.
Iranians eventually got rid of their Shah again and made themselves
another republic. The USA, true to form, which had shelterred German
and Japanese war criminals to demonstrate our deep devotion to peace
and justice, the USA shelterred an Iranian war criminal, the Shah.
When the Sunni kingdoms bribed Iraq to overthrow the Iranian
Revolution, the USA was johnny-on-the-spot, and aided Iraq against Iran. >>>
Iranians finally got a wee bit peeved and captured the embassy of the
so totally innocent USA.
I cannot possibly see what they were upset over.
Because of this we must hates Iran forever. We can never rest until
Savak again brings peace to that hell hole.
Extra credit work: Young Iranian are become annoyed with their
government's religious dogma and extremism. They would welcome a
peaceful evolution to a less severe Iranian Republic. The USA has
dedicated itself to pissing in their face to strengthen the hand of
our eternal enemy.
Oh, and those smugly reassuring themselves Iran is too deep in the
stone age to drop a nuclear bomb on the USA, Iran has put a satellite
in orbit. Physics being what physics is, once you are able to put a
satellite in orbit, you are also able to de-orbit the satellite and
drop it anywhere on the planet. Say....a white house. If Iran has a
weapon no heavier than the spy satellite, that is that: they can nuke
the USA anytime they want.
The original poster, poor punctuation and all,
Tisk ! The punctuation is intentional, to achieve
a more 'conversational' tone in a text medium :-)
Also love the odd use of caps, for emphasis.
I will use the old Chomsky definition of 'communication'
which boils down to "If you can still 'get it' then it
is valid language/communications".
Ah, still remember old Mrs. Pritchard, her whole life
had contracted to finding any excuse to put red marks
on student's papers. Near-fascist prescriptive grammar
was still very popular at the time :-)
was the person remarking that nuclear fission bombs were 1940s
technology, so my comment was meant to be facetious, not as an insult
to Iranian nuclear scientists or rocket engineers.
I certainly did not denigrate Iranian expertise ...
rather the opposite. Therein the danger.
Or has my posting-order list been compromised and
you are not talking about me at all ?
Your history refresher is well taken and shows that you are a more
informed and educated person than your usual usenet comments would
have ever suggested.
It has crossed my mind over the years that if North Korea or Iran were
to use, say, a 25 kiloton fission bomb or bombs to take out, say NYC,
the District of Columbia, and perhaps London, Tel Aviv, and Brussels,
the irony might be that "far right" political parties in the former
"Free World" might see the acts as a net positive while the neo-cons
would join the far left types to indulge in expressing "outrage" at
Little Rocketman and the Ayatollah. It might make for a best seller
fictional thriller type novel at the very least. Sort of an
international genre in the spirit of the Turner Diaries. (pardon my
poor diction, lol.)
Nuclear attacks on large western venues would not be
viewed as a positive by almost anybody. The "spin"
would be different according to political tilt and
environment. "Hawks" would seek to justify large scale
nuclear retaliation, maybe followed by invasions.
"The West Is The Most Evil Thing EVER" people would
see the event, and proper response, quite differently.
Jihad sympathizers MIGHT view it in a positive, almost
holy, light ... blows against the Great Satan(s).
As for "Little Rocketman", nobody seems quite sure what
his place and role may be. I see him as a Chinese proxy,
engineered to distract and drain resources. He does have
a small nuclear weapons stock and apparently does now
have missiles that could strike the US mainland and
Europe. However NK is not a large enough power, does not
have the resources, to follow-on any such attacks.
IMHO, it's purpose is to be loud and scary so we can
not put as much effort into China.
Hmmm ... I think Kim is to Xi what Musk is to Trump.
Musk is almost 'the jester' - he dances around, plays
the fool, says outrageous things. The US media and
further left are FIXATED on Musk ... almost forgetting
that he serves the will of Trump. This is The Plan.
Ok, by now for sure, Iran is a nuclear power. Probably
was quite awhile ago. It's 1940s tech folks and Iran
has both the brains and means - and motive.
On 21/3/25 23:16, c186282 wrote:
Ok, by now for sure, Iran is a nuclear power. Probably
was quite awhile ago. It's 1940s tech folks and Iran
has both the brains and means - and motive.
Once you get a heavy enough satellite in orbit, you can deorbit it over anywhere on Earth.
On 3/26/2025 6:41 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 21/3/25 23:16, c186282 wrote:
Ok, by now for sure, Iran is a nuclear power. Probably
was quite awhile ago. It's 1940s tech folks and Iran
has both the brains and means - and motive.
Once you get a heavy enough satellite in orbit, you can deorbit
it over anywhere on Earth.
Yes. Fractional Orbital Bombs (FOB's) were banned in a treaty
back in the 20th century, but Iran was not a signatory.
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