https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14508307/trump-biden-pardons-autopen-
void.html
. . .
I'm unaware of any POTUS trying to undo pardons
issued by a predecessor - so this would be totally
unknown legal ground.
The "double jeapordy" principle would say "no" -
once you're un/de/anti-convicted that should be
that. Maybe you DESERVE to be screwed, but once
it's all done then it's all done.
The sheer volume of Joe's final-week pardons
On 2025-03-18, Radio Gnome <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/18/2025 12:58 AM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14508307/trump-biden-pardons-
autopen-void.html
. . .
I'm unaware of any POTUS trying to undo pardons
issued by a predecessor - so this would be totally
unknown legal ground.
The "double jeapordy" principle would say "no" -
once you're un/de/anti-convicted that should be
that. Maybe you DESERVE to be screwed, but once
it's all done then it's all done.
The sheer volume of Joe's final-week pardons
was just breathtaking - esp the "preemptive
pardons". Strongly suggests that many WERE
culpable for all sorts of nasty things and
political horrors.
Did Joe have a CLUE as to what he was signing ?
Probably NOT. Indeed that MAY be a legal work-around.
Senile people can't really sign-off on ANYTHING,
only so-designated reps/lawyers/judges. If Trump
can get a few close Joe people to swear he was
a jelly-brain ...........
Just for fun, Trump should preemptively pardon
pretty much EVERYBODY in his current team -
Musk especially. THAT will piss off the Wokies
to the extreme, they'll have a seizure.
Hey ... if JOE can do it then TRUMP can do it !
See how it works ? Maybe shouldn't have gone
there in the first place hmmm ? :-)
SOMEDAY, maybe a few tighter params about pardons
can be codified ... esp the 'preemptive' shit
that kinda puts people "above/beyond the law".
The POTUS should have pretty broad authority, but
not infinite authority.
But, not today.
This one is going nowhere. Art. II, Sec. 2 gives pardon power, but
doesn't specify *how* the pardon is execute. The Supreme Court also
ruled that a pardon is valid once the president’s intent is clear and
it’s delivered, not necessarily signed (US v Wilson).
The question then becomes what was Biden's intent. Did he even know who
he was pardoning, let alone that he was even pardoning anyone?
I agree.
The key is gathering the proof that Biden had no clue what he was signing.
On 3/18/2025 6:58 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2025-03-18, Radio Gnome <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/18/2025 12:58 AM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14508307/trump-biden-pardons- >>> autopen-void.html
. . .
� I'm unaware of any POTUS trying to undo pardons
� issued by a predecessor - so this would be totally
� unknown legal ground.
� The "double jeapordy" principle would say "no" -
� once you're un/de/anti-convicted that should be
� that. Maybe you DESERVE to be screwed, but once
� it's all done then it's all done.
� The sheer volume of Joe's final-week pardons
� was just breathtaking - esp the "preemptive
� pardons". Strongly suggests that many WERE
� culpable for all sorts of nasty things and
� political horrors.
� Did Joe have a CLUE as to what he was signing ?
� Probably NOT. Indeed that MAY be a legal work-around.
� Senile people can't really sign-off on ANYTHING,
� only so-designated reps/lawyers/judges. If Trump
� can get a few close Joe people to swear he was
� a jelly-brain ...........
� Just for fun, Trump should preemptively pardon
� pretty much EVERYBODY in his current team -
� Musk especially. THAT will piss off the Wokies
� to the extreme, they'll have a seizure.
� Hey ... if JOE can do it then TRUMP can do it !
� See how it works ? Maybe shouldn't have gone
� there in the first place hmmm ?� :-)
� SOMEDAY, maybe a few tighter params about pardons
� can be codified ... esp the 'preemptive' shit
� that kinda puts people "above/beyond the law".
� The POTUS should have pretty broad authority, but
� not infinite authority.
� But, not today.
This one is going nowhere. Art. II, Sec. 2 gives pardon power, but
doesn't specify *how* the pardon is execute. The Supreme Court also
ruled that a pardon is valid once the president?s intent is clear and
it?s delivered, not necessarily signed (US v Wilson).
The question then becomes what was Biden's intent. Did he even know who
he was pardoning, let alone that he was even pardoning anyone?
I agree.
The key is gathering the proof that Biden had no clue what he was signing.
He knew full well what he was approving and signing.
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