• Trumpcession

    From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 5 09:11:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Traders are starting to price in the possibility that the
    | U.S. economy might fall into a recession -- and one Wall
    | Street veteran says that might actually be the Trump
    | administration's plan.
    |
    | Charlie McElligott, a strategist at Nomura dubbed Wall
    | Street's most wired analyst by the Financial Times for his
    | manic missives focused on the options market, laid out the
    | argument in a note to clients.
    |
    | He said President Donald Trump and his administration need
    | an engineered recession to cause a growth slowdown and
    | disinflation that will translate into Fed rate cuts and a
    | meaningfully weaker U.S. dollar for the next phase of his
    | economic agenda.
    | ... <https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-the-white-house-trying-to-engineer-a-recession-this-wall-street-pro-explains-the-vision-fb3b4106>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 5 15:53:50 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Private sector job creation slowed to a crawl in February,
    | fueling concerns of an economic slowdown, payrolls
    | processing firm ADP reported Wednesday.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/05/adp-jobs-report-february-2025-.html>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Thu Mar 6 02:50:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vq9s2e$63g$2 @reader1.panix.com:

    |
    | Private sector job creation slowed to a crawl in February,
    | fueling concerns of an economic slowdown, payrolls
    | processing firm ADP reported Wednesday.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/05/adp-jobs-report-february-2025-.html>

    --bks







    "I've been around for a long time and it just
    seems that the economy does better under the
    Democrats than the Republicans."
    Donald Trump, 2004
    https://tinyurl.com/y3pq645x

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu Mar 6 07:07:11 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 09:11:36 -0500 (EST), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Traders are starting to price in the possibility that the
    | U.S. economy might fall into a recession -- and one Wall
    | Street veteran says that might actually be the Trump
    | administration's plan.
    |
    | Charlie McElligott, a strategist at Nomura dubbed Wall
    | Street's most wired analyst by the Financial Times for his
    | manic missives focused on the options market, laid out the
    | argument in a note to clients.
    |
    | He said President Donald Trump and his administration need
    | an engineered recession to cause a growth slowdown and
    | disinflation that will translate into Fed rate cuts and a
    | meaningfully weaker U.S. dollar for the next phase of his
    | economic agenda.
    | ...
    <https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-the-white-house-trying-to-engineer-a-recession-this-wall-street-pro-explains-the-vision-fb3b4106>

    --bks

    And yet the market had a healty gain yesterday.
    So much for that theory.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Lee on Thu Mar 6 07:08:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 05 Mar 2025 15:12:31 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Bradley K. Sherman wrote:

    |
    | Traders are starting to price in the possibility that the
    | U.S. economy might fall into a recession -- and one Wall
    | Street veteran says that might actually be the Trump
    | administration's plan.
    |
    | Charlie McElligott, a strategist at Nomura dubbed Wall
    | Street's most wired analyst by the Financial Times for his
    | manic missives focused on the options market, laid out the
    | argument in a note to clients.
    |
    | He said President Donald Trump and his administration need
    | an engineered recession to cause a growth slowdown and
    | disinflation that will translate into Fed rate cuts and a
    | meaningfully weaker U.S. dollar for the next phase of his
    | economic agenda.
    | ...
    <https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-the-white-house-trying-to-engineer-a-recession-this-wall-street-pro-explains-the-vision-fb3b4106>

    --bks


    BBF. Blame Biden First.





    Since profits are based on completed quarters, who else would you
    blame if profits are down in Q4?

    Good luck with your investment strategy.

    Laughter.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Mar 6 08:13:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2025-03-06 12:07:11 +0000, NoBody said:

    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 09:11:36 -0500 (EST), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | He said President Donald Trump and his administration need
    | an engineered recession to cause a growth slowdown and
    | disinflation that will translate into Fed rate cuts and a
    | meaningfully weaker U.S. dollar for the next phase of his
    | economic agenda.

    Sure scorch the earth for the next four years to make yourself look as
    good as possible, even if it leaves your own political party in a
    shambles when the chickens come home to roost.

    |
    <https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-the-white-house-trying-to-engineer-a-recession-this-wall-street-pro-explains-the-vision-fb3b4106>


    --bks

    And yet the market had a healty gain yesterday.
    So much for that theory.

    That's because the King backed down on tariff threat for the third time
    in a month.

    The King has turned into The Boy Who Cried Wolf nobody takes seriously.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 6 13:23:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers
    |
    | Uncertainty around Trump's trade war is weighing on
    | Americans and causing some to hold back on purchases
    | ... <https://www.wsj.com/economy/consumers/tariff-whiplash-spooks-consumers-69d453d2>

    --bks

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 6 10:46:11 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    super70s wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 2025-03-06 12:07:11 +0000, NoBody said:

    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 09:11:36 -0500 (EST), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | He said President Donald Trump and his administration need
    | an engineered recession to cause a growth slowdown and
    | disinflation that will translate into Fed rate cuts and a
    | meaningfully weaker U.S. dollar for the next phase of his
    | economic agenda.

    Sure scorch the earth for the next four years to make yourself look as
    good as possible, even if it leaves your own political party in a
    shambles when the chickens come home to roost.

    <https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-the-white-house-trying-to-engineer-a-recession-this-wall-street-pro-explains-the-vision-fb3b4106>

    And yet the market had a healty gain yesterday.
    So much for that theory.

    Uhhhh, Beavis.... check out the news *today*.

    That's because the King backed down on tariff threat for the third time
    in a month.

    The King has turned into The Boy Who Cried Wolf nobody takes seriously.

    --
    Well, we'll really have a party, but we've gotta post a guard outside.
    -- Eddie Cochran, "Come On Everybody"

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Mar 6 13:31:27 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/6/25 07:07, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 09:11:36 -0500 (EST), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Traders are starting to price in the possibility that the
    | U.S. economy might fall into a recession -- and one Wall
    | Street veteran says that might actually be the Trump
    | administration's plan.
    |
    | Charlie McElligott, a strategist at Nomura dubbed Wall
    | Street's most wired analyst by the Financial Times for his
    | manic missives focused on the options market, laid out the
    | argument in a note to clients.
    |
    | He said President Donald Trump and his administration need
    | an engineered recession to cause a growth slowdown and
    | disinflation that will translate into Fed rate cuts and a
    | meaningfully weaker U.S. dollar for the next phase of his
    | economic agenda.
    | ...
    <https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-the-white-house-trying-to-engineer-a-recession-this-wall-street-pro-explains-the-vision-fb3b4106>

    --bks

    And yet the market had a healty gain yesterday.
    So much for that theory.

    Only a fool tries to claim significance on a single market day.

    Case in point, the DJIA's MoM is that it is down, by -4.92%

    And -3.44% since Inauguration
    And -2.50% since Election Day


    -hh

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Thu Mar 6 10:56:08 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    | He said President Donald Trump and his administration need
    | an engineered recession to cause a growth slowdown and
    | disinflation that will translate into Fed rate cuts and a
    | meaningfully weaker U.S. dollar for the next phase of his
    | economic agenda.
    Sure scorch the earth for the next four years to make yourself look as
    good as possible, even if it leaves your own political party in a
    shambles when the chickens come home to roost.


    Chairman DoodooHead is not capable of any depth of thinking beyond
    is it time to play golf.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 6 20:56:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | The Trump administration's massive federal cuts and
    | swelling feelings of economic uncertainty helped fuel a
    | recession-level spike in layoff plans last month, new data
    | showed Thursday.
    |
    | US-based employers last month announced plans to slash
    | 172,017 jobs, a 103% increase from a year ago and the
    | highest February total since 2009, according to Challenger,
    | Gray & Christmas's latest monthly job cuts report released
    | Thursday.
    | ... <https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/06/economy/us-jobs-report-february-preview/>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 6 20:50:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    |
    | Americans are growing fearful of a recession. It's not here
    | yet, but President Donald Trump is steering the country
    | toward a downturn with his tariffs and cuts to spending and
    | the federal workforce -- for no logical reason.
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/03/06/trump-recession-tariffs-layoffs/>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Mar 7 07:30:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 13:23:17 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers
    |
    | Uncertainty around Trump's trade war is weighing on
    | Americans and causing some to hold back on purchases
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/economy/consumers/tariff-whiplash-spooks-consumers-69d453d2>

    --bks

    Paywalled garbage.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Mar 7 07:31:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 20:56:35 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | The Trump administration's massive federal cuts and
    | swelling feelings of economic uncertainty helped fuel a
    | recession-level spike in layoff plans last month, new data
    | showed Thursday.
    |
    | US-based employers last month announced plans to slash
    | 172,017 jobs, a 103% increase from a year ago and the
    | highest February total since 2009, according to Challenger,
    | Gray & Christmas's latest monthly job cuts report released
    | Thursday.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/06/economy/us-jobs-report-february-preview/>

    --bks

    And Bradley leaves out:

    "The largest share of job cut announcements came in the government
    sector, where the newly formed Department of Government Efficiency has
    axed jobs, slashed federal spending and scrapped contracts. "

    Well...duh!

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Mar 7 07:34:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 20:50:49 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    |
    | Americans are growing fearful of a recession. It's not here
    | yet, but President Donald Trump is steering the country
    | toward a downturn with his tariffs and cuts to spending and
    | the federal workforce -- for no logical reason.
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/03/06/trump-recession-tariffs-layoffs/>

    --bks

    Other than the federal workflorce is a bloated, inefficient
    bureaucracy of course not!

    Eyeroll...

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Mar 7 07:34:53 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 06 Mar 2025 07:08:28 -0500, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Wed, 05 Mar 2025 15:12:31 +0000, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Bradley K. Sherman wrote:

    |
    | Traders are starting to price in the possibility that the
    | U.S. economy might fall into a recession -- and one Wall
    | Street veteran says that might actually be the Trump
    | administration's plan.
    |
    | Charlie McElligott, a strategist at Nomura dubbed Wall
    | Street's most wired analyst by the Financial Times for his
    | manic missives focused on the options market, laid out the
    | argument in a note to clients.
    |
    | He said President Donald Trump and his administration need
    | an engineered recession to cause a growth slowdown and
    | disinflation that will translate into Fed rate cuts and a
    | meaningfully weaker U.S. dollar for the next phase of his
    | economic agenda.
    | ...
    <https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-the-white-house-trying-to-engineer-a-recession-this-wall-street-pro-explains-the-vision-fb3b4106>

    --bks


    BBF. Blame Biden First.





    Since profits are based on completed quarters, who else would you
    blame if profits are down in Q4?

    Good luck with your investment strategy.

    Laughter.

    And the coward has run away.

    Again.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 7 13:48:11 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | The U.S. economy added 151,000 jobs last month, nearly
    | 10,000 less than economists predicted, while unemployment
    | was up slightly in the first report of President Donald
    | Trump's administration.
    | ... <https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jobs-report-trump-economy-unemployment-b2710459.html>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 7 14:04:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
    |
    | [38-second Fox Business video at URL]
    |
    <https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ljs5jievw22q>

    --bks

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Mar 7 09:40:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/7/25 07:30, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 13:23:17 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers
    |
    | Uncertainty around Trump's trade war is weighing on
    | Americans and causing some to hold back on purchases
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/economy/consumers/tariff-whiplash-spooks-consumers-69d453d2>

    --bks

    Paywalled garbage.

    If its paywalled...

    ...then how are you able to conclude that it is "garbage"?


    -hh

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 7 15:27:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook
    |
    | Economic forecasts have deteriorated in recent weeks,
    | reflecting the upheaval from federal layoffs, tariff moves
    | and immigration roundups.
    | ... <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/business/economy/trump-economy-tariffs.html>

    --bks

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Mar 7 09:56:45 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/7/2025 4:30 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 13:23:17 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers
    |
    | Uncertainty around Trump's trade war is weighing on
    | Americans and causing some to hold back on purchases
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/economy/consumers/tariff-whiplash-spooks-consumers-69d453d2>

    --bks

    Paywalled garbage.
    No, unimpeachable and rock-solid fact.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to duke on Fri Mar 7 19:25:34 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    duke <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:yrGyP.18883$[email protected]:

    On 3/7/2025 4:30 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 13:23:17 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers
    |
    | Uncertainty around Trump's trade war is weighing on
    | Americans and causing some to hold back on purchases
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/economy/consumers/tariff-whiplash-spooks-consume
    rs-69d453d2>

    --bks

    Paywalled garbage.
    No, unimpeachable and rock-solid fact.



    "Your article is full of
    unverfied allegations and
    questional sources and is
    logically flawed, and beside
    I didn't read a word of it
    because it is paywalled"

    Kremlin Girl logic, laid bare.

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Fri Mar 7 13:12:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/7/2025 11:25 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    duke <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:yrGyP.18883$[email protected]:

    On 3/7/2025 4:30 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 13:23:17 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers
    |
    | Uncertainty around Trump's trade war is weighing on
    | Americans and causing some to hold back on purchases
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/economy/consumers/tariff-whiplash-spooks-consume
    rs-69d453d2>

    --bks

    Paywalled garbage.
    No, unimpeachable and rock-solid fact.



    "Your article is full of
    unverified allegations and
    questionable sources and is
    logically flawed, and beside
    I didn't read a word of it
    because it is paywalled"

    Kremlin Girl logic, laid bare.

    You nailed it.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 8 19:01:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    |
    | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
    | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as
    | the administration carries out plans to slap tariffs on
    | billions of dollars of goods coming into the U.S. and fire
    | thousands of federal workers across the country.
    | ... <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-allies-hint-economic-pain-ahead-americans-rcna195323>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Mar 9 09:44:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 19:01:09 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    |
    | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
    | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as
    | the administration carries out plans to slap tariffs on
    | billions of dollars of goods coming into the U.S. and fire
    | thousands of federal workers across the country.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-allies-hint-economic-pain-ahead-americans-rcna195323>

    --bks

    You were told months ago by myself that there was a recession on its
    way as the signs were there.

    Who was President then?

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Mar 9 08:54:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 19:01:09 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    |
    | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
    | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as
    | the administration carries out plans to slap tariffs on
    | billions of dollars of goods coming into the U.S. and fire
    | thousands of federal workers across the country.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-allies-hint-economic-pain-ahead-americans-rcna195323>

    --bks

    You were told months ago by myself that there was a recession on its
    way as the signs were there.

    Who was President then?


    You mean the Biden tariffs?

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 9 18:35:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
    | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as

    |
    | Trump declines to rule out recession amid tariffs' effects
    | on markets
    |
    | Trump's acknowledgment of economic turbulence was a
    | reversal from previous cheering of his policies, and it
    | contrasted with reassurances from his own advisers Sunday.
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/09/trump-recession-economy-inflation/>

    --bks

    Trump put the "FFS" in tariffs.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 9 21:41:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
    | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as

    | Trump declines to rule out recession amid tariffs' effects
    | on markets

    |
    | Companies warn investors that DOGE's federal cuts might
    | hurt business
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/03/09/doge-companies-warnings-sec-filings/>

    --bks

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  • From Craig G Wood@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Mar 9 19:06:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/9/2025 6:44 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 19:01:09 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    |
    | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
    | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as
    | the administration carries out plans to slap tariffs on
    | billions of dollars of goods coming into the U.S. and fire
    | thousands of federal workers across the country.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-allies-hint-economic-pain-ahead-americans-rcna195323>

    --bks

    You were told months ago by myself [sic] that there was a recession on its way as the signs were there.
    *No* signs of recession were visible months ago. The signs are there *now* because Trump is cratering the economy.

    "You were told months ago by myself" is just shitty writing. Write: "I told you months ago." Do not use the passive voice.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Mar 10 07:09:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 08:54:48 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 19:01:09 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    |
    | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
    | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as
    | the administration carries out plans to slap tariffs on
    | billions of dollars of goods coming into the U.S. and fire
    | thousands of federal workers across the country.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-allies-hint-economic-pain-ahead-americans-rcna195323>

    --bks

    You were told months ago by myself that there was a recession on its
    way as the signs were there.

    Who was President then?


    You mean the Biden tariffs?

    Please read what I wrote before replying.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Mon Mar 10 07:10:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 21:41:12 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
    | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as

    | Trump declines to rule out recession amid tariffs' effects
    | on markets

    |
    | Companies warn investors that DOGE's federal cuts might
    | hurt business
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/03/09/doge-companies-warnings-sec-filings/>

    --bks

    Paywalled trash.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Craig G Wood on Mon Mar 10 13:26:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Craig G Wood <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:vqlhfd$10t76$[email protected]:

    On 3/9/2025 6:44 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 19:01:09 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    |
    | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
    | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as
    | the administration carries out plans to slap tariffs on
    | billions of dollars of goods coming into the U.S. and fire
    | thousands of federal workers across the country.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-allies-h
    int-economic-pain-ahead-americans-rcna195323>

    --bks

    You were told months ago by myself [sic] that there was a recession
    on its way as the signs were there.


    *No* signs of recession were visible months ago. The signs are there
    *now* because Trump is cratering the economy.



    Trump inherited a booming economy.



    US Economy Adds 227,000 Jobs in November, Exceeding Expectations
    December 16, 2024
    https://tinyurl.com/2s7kupny


    The U.S. economy added 256,000 jobs in December,
    much higher than anticipated.
    January 22, 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/y6mhknrj

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 10 19:34:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
    | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as

    | Trump declines to rule out recession amid tariffs' effects
    | on markets

    | ...
    | While Trump used Wall Street as a continuous barometer of
    | his progress during his first term in office, he
    | discouraged making it a yardstick this time around.
    |
    | "What I have to do is build a strong country," he said.
    | "You can't really watch the stock market."
    | ... <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/10/trump-says-transition-period-likely-for-economy-and-you-cant-watch-the-stock-market.html>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 10 20:36:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    |
    | Dow tumbles nearly 900 points, Nasdaq suffers worst day
    | since 2022 as recession fears erupt
    | ... <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/09/stock-market-news-today-live-updates.html>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Mar 11 07:01:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 19:34:02 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
    | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as

    | Trump declines to rule out recession amid tariffs' effects
    | on markets

    | ...
    | While Trump used Wall Street as a continuous barometer of
    | his progress during his first term in office, he
    | discouraged making it a yardstick this time around.
    |
    | "What I have to do is build a strong country," he said.
    | "You can't really watch the stock market."
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/10/trump-says-transition-period-likely-for-economy-and-you-cant-watch-the-stock-market.html>

    --bks

    Change always upsets the market. They adjust to the change and
    continue to grow.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Mar 11 04:51:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    Change always upsets the market. They adjust to the change and
    continue to grow.

    Even if it takes twenty years.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 11 12:31:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    |
    | Wall Street Fears Trump Will Wreck the Soft Landing
    |
    | The economy's pilot has a new message: Fasten your seat
    | belts
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/economy/trump-team-recession-hard-landing-c8f23d5d>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 11 14:57:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    |
    | Just 20 days ago, the US stock market was sitting at
    | all-time highs. The US economy appeared to be growing at a
    | solid pace. And a recession was nowhere in sight.
    |
    | Now, the R-word is seemingly everywhere.
    | ... <https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/11/business/recession-economy-trump-dow-stocks/index.html>

    --bks

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Craig G Wood on Tue Mar 11 13:32:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/9/25 22:06, Craig G Wood wrote:
    On 3/9/2025 6:44 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 19:01:09 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    |
    | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
    | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as
    | the administration carries out plans to slap tariffs on
    | billions of dollars of goods coming into the U.S. and fire
    | thousands of federal workers across the country.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-allies-
    hint-economic-pain-ahead-americans-rcna195323>

        --bks

    You were told months ago by myself [sic] that there was a recession on
    its way as the signs were there.

    *No* signs of recession were visible months ago. The signs are there
    *now* because Trump is cratering the economy.

    Depends on just where one was looking, for there was a "100%!"
    prediction back in 2022/23.

    But the "U.S. monthly projected recession probability 2020-2025"

    Published by Statista Research Department, Jan 3, 2025 stated:

    "By November 2025, it is projected that there is a probability of 33.56
    percent that the United States will fall into another economic
    recession. This reflects a significant decrease from the projection of
    the preceding month."

    The basic takeaway is that the Market pundits who had disbelieved the
    'soft landing' even as that was happening were now shifted to believe
    that Trump would have more friendly 'free market' policies than Harris.

    Of course, we are now learning that this was highly and overly
    optimistic, as reflected in Atlanta Fed documentation of GDP forecast
    surveys which has whiplashed their prediction needle from +2.3% GDP
    Growth to -2.4% GDP Contraction in less than one month:

    <https://www.atlantafed.org/cqer/research/gdpnow>


    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Mar 11 10:39:56 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/11/2025 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 19:34:02 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
    | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as

    | Trump declines to rule out recession amid tariffs' effects
    | on markets

    | ...
    | While Trump used Wall Street as a continuous barometer of
    | his progress during his first term in office, he
    | discouraged making it a yardstick this time around.
    |
    | "What I have to do is build a strong country," he said.
    | "You can't really watch the stock market."
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/10/trump-says-transition-period-likely-for-economy-and-you-cant-watch-the-stock-market.html>

    --bks

    Change always upsets the market.

    Bullshit. Good change makes the market rise rapidly. Trump-style change tanks it.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 11 18:19:56 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    | Just 20 days ago, the US stock market was sitting at
    | all-time highs. The US economy appeared to be growing at a
    | solid pace. And a recession was nowhere in sight.
    |
    | Now, the R-word is seemingly everywhere.

    |
    | Dick's Sporting Goods is latest retailer to forecast rocky
    | 2025 as recession fears swirl
    | ... <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/11/dicks-sporting-goods-dks-earnings-q4-2024.html>

    --bks

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Mar 11 18:28:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:
    That's because the King backed down on tariff threat for the third time
    in a month.

    The King has turned into The Boy Who Cried Wolf nobody takes seriously.
    He changes his mind more often than he changes his socks.

    Every five years?

    The chaos he's creating is driving CEOs as well as small business to distraction.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Mar 12 07:15:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 12:31:59 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    |
    | Wall Street Fears Trump Will Wreck the Soft Landing
    |
    | The economy's pilot has a new message: Fasten your seat
    | belts
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/economy/trump-team-recession-hard-landing-c8f23d5d>

    --bks

    Soft landing...laughter. Biden ran with inflation completely out of
    control and you openly supported it.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Mar 12 07:14:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 04:51:40 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    Change always upsets the market. They adjust to the change and
    continue to grow.

    Even if it takes twenty years.

    Oddly the markets only concern you when they're down under Trump.
    Investing is for the long term. If you can't handle it then get out.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Mar 12 07:16:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:57:12 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

    | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook

    |
    | Just 20 days ago, the US stock market was sitting at
    | all-time highs. The US economy appeared to be growing at a
    | solid pace. And a recession was nowhere in sight.
    |
    | Now, the R-word is seemingly everywhere.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/11/business/recession-economy-trump-dow-stocks/index.html>

    --bks

    You were told by me this was coming a long time ago. The consequences
    of Biden-flation are coming home to roost. Of course you'll blame Trump...because you're a partisan troll.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 12 12:52:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | How Do You Like the Trade War Now?
    |
    | Trump is furious that Canada won't take his tariffs lying
    | down
    |
    | President Trump wanted a trade war with the world, and
    | Americans are getting it, good and hard. Stock prices
    | continued to decline on Tuesday amid the latest Canada-U.S.
    | tariff tit-for-tat. By the end of the day the two sides
    | were talking about a temporary truce, but who knows which
    | side of the tariff bed Mr. Trump will wake up on Wednesday?
    | ... <https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-trump-tariffs-canada-doug-ford-trade-war-ba0c6147>

    --bks

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Wed Mar 12 09:46:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | How Do You Like the Trade War Now?
    |
    | Trump is furious that Canada won't take his tariffs lying
    | down
    |
    | President Trump wanted a trade war with the world, and
    | Americans are getting it, good and hard. Stock prices
    | continued to decline on Tuesday amid the latest Canada-U.S.
    | tariff tit-for-tat. By the end of the day the two sides
    | were talking about a temporary truce, but who knows which
    | side of the tariff bed Mr. Trump will wake up on Wednesday?

    <https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-trump-tariffs-canada-doug-ford-trade-war-ba0c6147>

    https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-trump-tariffs-25-percent-mexico-canada-trade-economy-84476fb2

    The Dumbest Trade War in History

    Trump will impose 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico for no good reason.

    --
    No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu Mar 13 07:05:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 12:52:40 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | How Do You Like the Trade War Now?
    |
    | Trump is furious that Canada won't take his tariffs lying
    | down
    |
    | President Trump wanted a trade war with the world, and
    | Americans are getting it, good and hard. Stock prices
    | continued to decline on Tuesday amid the latest Canada-U.S.
    | tariff tit-for-tat. By the end of the day the two sides
    | were talking about a temporary truce, but who knows which
    | side of the tariff bed Mr. Trump will wake up on Wednesday?
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-trump-tariffs-canada-doug-ford-trade-war-ba0c6147>

    --bks

    Another "economist" who thinks it's fine for other countries to tariff
    our goods but we are not tariff theirs...

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Mar 13 05:15:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    Another "economist" who thinks it's fine for other countries to tariff
    our goods but we are not tariff theirs...

    Who? Name them.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Derek Nash@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Mar 13 10:51:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/12/2025 4:14 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 04:51:40 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    Change always upsets the market. They adjust to the change and
    continue to grow.

    Even if it takes twenty years.

    Oddly the markets only concern you when they're down under Trump.

    Cite.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 13 20:53:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | Wall Street's sell-off hit a new low Thursday after
    | President Donald Trump's escalating trade war dragged the
    | S&P 500 more than 10% below its record, which was set just
    | last month.
    | ... <https://apnews.com/article/stocks-markets-rates-tariffs-1c8e59d6f2661c6e3c6aeda8ab07a583?taid=67d33d6f6a7c5e00010d5e0e>

    --bks

    Today was one of those rare days when the Fox Business Channel was
    destination viewing.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Mar 14 07:08:20 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 05:15:06 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    Another "economist" who thinks it's fine for other countries to tariff
    our goods but we are not tariff theirs...

    Who? Name them.

    You snipped it dimbulb.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Mar 14 07:09:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 20:53:42 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | Wall Street's sell-off hit a new low Thursday after
    | President Donald Trump's escalating trade war dragged the
    | S&P 500 more than 10% below its record, which was set just
    | last month.
    | ...
    <https://apnews.com/article/stocks-markets-rates-tariffs-1c8e59d6f2661c6e3c6aeda8ab07a583?taid=67d33d6f6a7c5e00010d5e0e>

    --bks

    Today was one of those rare days when the Fox Business Channel was >destination viewing.

    Not the first time markets have been volatile and not the last.
    Perhaps you should learn how to invest.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 14 13:05:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | Gold Hits Record High Amid Tariff Anxiety
    |
    | The price of gold, considered a haven during turmoil,
    | surpassed $3,000 per ounce for the first time as investors
    | send U.S. stock markets tumbling.
    | ... <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/14/us/politics/gold-price-record-high.html>

    --bks

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  • From MattB@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Mar 14 15:16:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/13/2025 4:05 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 12:52:40 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | How Do You Like the Trade War Now?
    |
    | Trump is furious that Canada won't take his tariffs lying
    | down
    |
    | President Trump wanted a trade war with the world, and
    | Americans are getting it, good and hard. Stock prices
    | continued to decline on Tuesday amid the latest Canada-U.S.
    | tariff tit-for-tat. By the end of the day the two sides
    | were talking about a temporary truce, but who knows which
    | side of the tariff bed Mr. Trump will wake up on Wednesday?
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-trump-tariffs-canada-doug-ford-trade-war-ba0c6147>

    --bks

    Another "economist" who thinks it's fine for

    You stupid clueless fuck: that opinion was by the WSJ editorial board, not an "economist."

    You're so fucking stupid. Everything you believe is bad and wrong, and everything you think you know is bullshit.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Mar 15 09:25:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 07:08:20 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 05:15:06 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    Another "economist" who thinks it's fine for other countries to tariff
    our goods but we are not tariff theirs...

    Who? Name them.

    You snipped it dimbulb.

    And the drunk has passed out.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sat Mar 15 09:26:44 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 13:05:31 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | Gold Hits Record High Amid Tariff Anxiety
    |
    | The price of gold, considered a haven during turmoil,
    | surpassed $3,000 per ounce for the first time as investors
    | send U.S. stock markets tumbling.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/14/us/politics/gold-price-record-high.html>

    --bks

    Once again I *highly* suggest you learn how to invest and not rely on
    paywalled trash.

    And once again I ask: do you subscribe to all of these publications
    or do you steal their content?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Mar 16 08:55:15 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 13:53:52 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | How to prepare for a recession before it's too late
    |
    | Escalating trade wars, federal worker layoffs and market
    | turmoil make for a gloomy economic future. But you can
    | prepare.
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/03/14/tips-prepare-recession-economy-trump/>

    --bks

    Laughter.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 16 12:53:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Gold Hits Record High Amid Tariff Anxiety

    |
    | President Trump Is Making Foreign Stocks Great Again
    |
    | For years, the S&P 500 soared above the stock indexes of
    | other countries. But since Trump's inauguration, it has
    | fallen 6 percent and is now trailing major markets in
    | Europe and China.
    | ... <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/16/business/trump-sp-500-stocks-europe-china.html>

    --bks

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Mar 16 08:36:26 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    Look at you coming out in favor of the rich investors.


    Welcome to the Hotel California.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 17 02:34:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | Wall Street's recession odds are starting to look like a
    | coin flip as Trump refuses to back down on his trade war
    | ... <https://fortune.com/2025/03/16/recession-forecasts-50-50-odds-trump-trade-war-reciprocal-tariffs-federal-layoffs-bessent/>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Mon Mar 17 06:52:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 02:34:13 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | Wall Street's recession odds are starting to look like a
    | coin flip as Trump refuses to back down on his trade war
    | ...
    <https://fortune.com/2025/03/16/recession-forecasts-50-50-odds-trump-trade-war-reciprocal-tariffs-federal-layoffs-bessent/>

    --bks

    Booga, booga!

    Laughter.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 17 12:38:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Wall Street's recession odds are starting to look like a
    | coin flip as Trump refuses to back down on his trade war

    |
    | Job Seekers Hit Wall of Salary Deflation
    |
    | The salary bump that people who switch jobs used to command
    | has vanished
    | ... <https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/salary-deflation-workers-new-jobs-0b2e1a1f>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Mar 18 06:58:46 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:38:24 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Wall Street's recession odds are starting to look like a
    | coin flip as Trump refuses to back down on his trade war

    |
    | Job Seekers Hit Wall of Salary Deflation
    |
    | The salary bump that people who switch jobs used to command
    | has vanished
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/salary-deflation-workers-new-jobs-0b2e1a1f>

    --bks

    Paywalled garbage.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 10:54:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    Let loose the hounds of gaslighting:
    |
    | Presidents usually do all they can to avoid recessions, so
    | much so that they avoid even saying the word.
    |
    | But President Trump and his advisers in recent weeks have
    | offered a very different message. Yes, a recession is
    | possible, they have said. Maybe one wouldn't even be that
    | bad.
    | ... <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/18/business/economy/trump-recession-tariffs-inflation.html>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu Mar 20 07:32:54 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 10:54:40 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    Let loose the hounds of gaslighting:
    |
    | Presidents usually do all they can to avoid recessions, so
    | much so that they avoid even saying the word.
    |
    | But President Trump and his advisers in recent weeks have
    | offered a very different message. Yes, a recession is
    | possible, they have said. Maybe one wouldn't even be that
    | bad.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/18/business/economy/trump-recession-tariffs-inflation.html>

    --bks

    Paywalled rag posting by Bradley the gaslighter.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 21 12:00:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | President Donald Trump said his first day in office marked
    | the start of a "golden age" for the US. He and his advisers
    | now say it could take months or longer to arrive.
    | ... <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-21/trump-promised-an-american-boom-he-now-says-it-may-take-a-while>

    --bks

    Or never? How does never sound to you?

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Fri Mar 21 13:33:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vrjkc2$gfi$[email protected]:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | President Donald Trump said his first day in office marked
    | the start of a "golden age" for the US. He and his advisers
    | now say it could take months or longer to arrive.
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-21/trump-promised-an-a merican-boom-he-now-says-it-may-take-a-while>

    --bks

    Or never? How does never sound to you?



    Funny how the "on Day One" promises have disappeared.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 21 08:11:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    says...

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vrjkc2$gfi$[email protected]:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | President Donald Trump said his first day in office marked
    | the start of a "golden age" for the US. He and his advisers
    | now say it could take months or longer to arrive.
    | ... <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-21/trump-promised-an-a merican-boom-he-now-says-it-may-take-a-while>

    --bks

    Or never? How does never sound to you?



    Funny how the "on Day One" promises have disappeared.

    Funny how you still have no ammo.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 21 22:12:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | Restaurants warn rising ground beef prices will hit
    | consumers
    | ...
    <https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6370332739112>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sat Mar 22 01:55:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vrko97$ppd$2 @reader1.panix.com:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | Restaurants warn rising ground beef prices will hit
    | consumers
    | ...
    <https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6370332739112>

    --bks



    "All Bidens fault" in 3.....2....1....

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sat Mar 22 09:03:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 12:00:02 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | President Donald Trump said his first day in office marked
    | the start of a "golden age" for the US. He and his advisers
    | now say it could take months or longer to arrive.
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-21/trump-promised-an-american-boom-he-now-says-it-may-take-a-while>

    --bks

    Or never? How does never sound to you?

    To you, a "golden age" is when people give all their money to the
    government and it tells people what they may have.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Mar 22 06:41:45 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 12:00:02 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | President Donald Trump said his first day in office marked
    | the start of a "golden age" for the US. He and his advisers
    | now say it could take months or longer to arrive.
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-21/trump-promised-an-american-boom-he-now-says-it-may-take-a-while>

    --bks

    Or never? How does never sound to you?

    To you, a "golden age" is when people give all their money to the
    government and it tells people what they may have.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRD0ghlFSgk

    Golden years, angel.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From John Smyth@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Mar 22 11:00:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/22/2025 6:03 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 12:00:02 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | President Donald Trump said his first day in office marked
    | the start of a "golden age" for the US. He and his advisers
    | now say it could take months or longer to arrive.
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-21/trump-promised-an-american-boom-he-now-says-it-may-take-a-while>

    --bks

    Or never? How does never sound to you?

    To you, a "golden age" is [straw man erased]

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Mar 23 08:53:21 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 09:03:10 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 12:00:02 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | President Donald Trump said his first day in office marked
    | the start of a "golden age" for the US. He and his advisers
    | now say it could take months or longer to arrive.
    | ... >><https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-21/trump-promised-an-american-boom-he-now-says-it-may-take-a-while>

    --bks

    Or never? How does never sound to you?

    To you, a "golden age" is when people give all their money to the
    government and it tells people what they may have.

    And Bradley has run away.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 27 03:03:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | President Donald Trump said his first day in office marked
    | the start of a "golden age" for the US. He and his advisers
    | now say it could take months or longer to arrive.

    |
    | Corporate America's Euphoria Over Trump's 'Golden Age' Is
    | Giving Way to Distress
    |
    | CEOs and investors are fretting over what they see as
    | whipsaw policy changes and complacency about the risks of
    | recession
    | ... <https://www.wsj.com/economy/wall-street-trump-golden-age-distress-28a1dfcc>

    --bks

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  • From Lee@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Apr 2 14:46:45 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/2/2025 4:05 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 00:17:40 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 1/4/25 19:16, pothead wrote:
    We simply cannot go on as things are.

    Why not?

    Laughter?

    The price of everything practically doubled under Biden

    Bullshit.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Apr 2 23:03:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2025-04-02, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 00:17:40 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 1/4/25 19:16, pothead wrote:
    We simply cannot go on as things are.

    Why not?

    Laughter?

    The price of everything practically doubled under Biden yet you claim
    to be in favor of the poor?


    What do you propose?

    Let the marketplace decide.

    This is a first for you...

    Indeed.
    Where was Siri when Newsom banned ICE lawn equipment?
    Biden attacked ICE cars and fossil fuels?
    etc

    Doesn't sound like let the market decide to me.

    Siri = yet another leftist hypocrite.



    --
    pothead
    Liberalism Is A Mental Disease
    Treat it accordingly <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to pothead on Thu Apr 3 01:48:21 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    pothead <[email protected]> wrote in news:vskfnm$30f5n$[email protected]:

    On 2025-04-02, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 00:17:40 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 1/4/25 19:16, pothead wrote:
    We simply cannot go on as things are.

    Why not?

    Laughter?

    The price of everything practically doubled under Biden yet you claim
    to be in favor of the poor?


    What do you propose?

    Let the marketplace decide.

    This is a first for you...

    Indeed.
    Where was Siri when Newsom banned ICE lawn equipment?
    Biden attacked ICE cars and fossil fuels?
    etc

    Doesn't sound like let the market decide to me.

    Siri = yet another leftist hypocrite.




    Conservatives: "Let the market decide!"

    Also conservatives: "Government tariffs!
    "Government bailouts!" Government subsidies!"
    "More government tariffs!"

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 3 12:19:25 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy. It's What
    | Republicans Do.

    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy

    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted

    |
    | President Trump's mindless tariffs will cause economic havoc
    | But the rest of the world can limit the damage
    | ... <https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/04/03/president-trumps-mindless-tariffs-will-cause-economic-havoc>

    |
    | Trump's Tariffs Aim to Create a New World Economic Order
    |
    | The announcement Wednesday stunned markets. It could also
    | push countries--including the U.S.--to the brink of
    | recession
    | ... <https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/trumps-tariffs-aim-to-create-a-new-world-economic-order-f48057ae>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 3 16:28:45 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy. It's What
    | Republicans Do.

    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy

    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted

    | President Trump's mindless tariffs will cause economic havoc

    |
    | Americans Will Pay the Price for Reckless Tariffs
    | ... <https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/04/americans-will-pay-the-price-for-reckless-tariffs/>

    --bks

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to pothead on Thu Apr 3 16:19:41 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/1/25 22:16, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-04-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/1/25 07:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 12:16:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | Policy uncertainty and new sweeping tariffs from the Trump
    | administration are combining to create a stagflationary
    | outlook for the U.S. economy in the latest CNBC Rapid
    | Update.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/31/first-quarter-gdp-growth-will-be-just-0point3percent-as-tariffs-stoke-stagflation-conditions-says-cnbc-survey.html>

    |
    | Uncertainty around how and when Congress will enact tax
    | legislation, on top of Trump's ever-changing tariff
    | announcements, is dragging down expectations for
    | investment, surveys from across the country show. Many
    | firms are putting their investment plans, a key driver of
    | economic growth, on hold. That's one reason why economists
    | are dialing back growth forecasts for this year.
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-31/us-business-put-spending-plans-on-ice-with-tariffs-tax-cut-wait?srnd=homepage-americas>

    --bks

    Laughter.

    I warned you a year ago that Biden's inflation was going to cause a
    recession. They don't happen over night. This is that particular
    chicken coming home to roost.

    And you'll actually blame Trump for this.

    Sad.


    Well, Goldman Sachs is blaming Trump for it. Their latest report hit
    the news yesterday and they've put the recession risk update at 35%:

    <https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/31/business/recession-tariffs-goldman-sachs/index.html>

    And for "But Blame Biden!" attempts, the problem with this claim is
    Goldman Sach's last report has changed since the election. Their last
    assessment prior to the election was in Oct 2024 and it said a 15% risk:

    Headline (8 Oct 24)
    <https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/articles/the-probability-of-a-us-recession-in-the-next-year-has-fallen-to-15-percent>

    Full analysis (6 Oct 24):
    <https://www.gspublishing.com/content/research/en/reports/2024/10/07/8ba0c80f-a90e-49f9-8c38-1276047e7533.html>


    And now that 1Q is over so firms can go back to deviating from their
    index fund percentages, the DJIA has just opened with a 200 points drop.


    -hh

    Personally I don't trust any of the financial firms because they are wrong more
    often than not.


    Their assessments have to be stochastic, not deterministic. As such,
    its not if they are/aren't "correct", but if they're *useful*.


    The economy, while rooted in SOME basic tennants is also highly voodoo as well to
    some degree.

    More variables and interactions than one can reasonably expect to gather sufficient data to model with. Plus a lot of these variables are
    "squishy" in that they're things like consumer sentiments.


    Back in the late 70's into the 80's brokers were moonlighting driving taxi cabs
    in NYC and the joke was well if you know so much about where the market is headed
    why aren't YOU rich?

    I'm mixed on Trump's tariffs TBH.

    I see them as a train wreck, which the Market today is also voting with
    their dollars manifested as a stampede for the door: DJIA closed -1679
    (-4%) SP500 -274 (-4.8%) NASDAQ -1050 (-6%).


    However I am 1000000% in favor of bringing jobs, especially manufacturing jobs,
    back stateside.

    Agreed ... to a degree. There's pros/cons to any policy, so the broader question is what are these pros/cons and where have the current policies
    been delinquent. Because part of that these trades is that one only has
    a finite labor pool to allocate, so is it better to have, say, 20%
    working in low value-added & fungible goods vs alternatives, such as in
    better paying Service industry jobs.

    As for tariffs themselves, I would like to see fair trade.

    The problem is what is an effective definition for what is "fair"?
    Because it can't be merely this formula based on trade balance, where
    Trump is imposing tariffs on literally uninhabited islands (and also on
    our own military base on Diego Garcia!), which only shows up because its
    shown as the 'origin' for some lobsters caught there.

    I doubt China will ever agree, but I'm sure we can work something out with other countries.
    Why should the US be screwed all the time?
    Level set the playing field is all I would like to see.

    My personal thoughts on it is that the manufacture of physical goods
    should have had (for decades) a baseline that's pollution-based: make
    goods in an environmentally dirty fashion is cheaper, so that becomes
    the basis of a 'tariff'-esque handicap. However, this is limited to
    just physical goods, not services.


    Will Trump's tariffs upset the economy?
    Maybe.

    Market today showed that they're betting that it will be a huge upset.

    But what is the alternative?
    We simply cannot go on as things are.

    So long as revenues received from services exported still exceed
    revenues out from material goods imported ... why can't it? After all,
    that is still a next inflow of cash.

    What do you propose?

    Well, it starts with not using tariff exemptions as a means of blackmail/extortion.

    It is also integral to our overall fiscal policies in how the government should/shouldn't generate its operating revenue, specifically on the
    question of how the policies are assessed to determine if they're
    progressive vs regressive. Note that this isn't a question of if the government is "too big"/"spending too much": anyone trying to claim
    that is attempting to make a diversion to avoid its key policy point.


    -hh

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Apr 4 00:02:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2025-04-03, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/1/25 22:16, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-04-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/1/25 07:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 12:16:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | Policy uncertainty and new sweeping tariffs from the Trump
    | administration are combining to create a stagflationary
    | outlook for the U.S. economy in the latest CNBC Rapid
    | Update.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/31/first-quarter-gdp-growth-will-be-just-0point3percent-as-tariffs-stoke-stagflation-conditions-says-cnbc-survey.html>

    |
    | Uncertainty around how and when Congress will enact tax
    | legislation, on top of Trump's ever-changing tariff
    | announcements, is dragging down expectations for
    | investment, surveys from across the country show. Many
    | firms are putting their investment plans, a key driver of
    | economic growth, on hold. That's one reason why economists
    | are dialing back growth forecasts for this year.
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-31/us-business-put-spending-plans-on-ice-with-tariffs-tax-cut-wait?srnd=homepage-americas>

    --bks

    Laughter.

    I warned you a year ago that Biden's inflation was going to cause a
    recession. They don't happen over night. This is that particular
    chicken coming home to roost.

    And you'll actually blame Trump for this.

    Sad.


    Well, Goldman Sachs is blaming Trump for it. Their latest report hit
    the news yesterday and they've put the recession risk update at 35%:

    <https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/31/business/recession-tariffs-goldman-sachs/index.html>

    And for "But Blame Biden!" attempts, the problem with this claim is
    Goldman Sach's last report has changed since the election. Their last
    assessment prior to the election was in Oct 2024 and it said a 15% risk: >>>
    Headline (8 Oct 24)
    <https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/articles/the-probability-of-a-us-recession-in-the-next-year-has-fallen-to-15-percent>

    Full analysis (6 Oct 24):
    <https://www.gspublishing.com/content/research/en/reports/2024/10/07/8ba0c80f-a90e-49f9-8c38-1276047e7533.html>


    And now that 1Q is over so firms can go back to deviating from their
    index fund percentages, the DJIA has just opened with a 200 points drop. >>>

    -hh

    Personally I don't trust any of the financial firms because they are wrong more
    often than not.


    Their assessments have to be stochastic, not deterministic. As such,
    its not if they are/aren't "correct", but if they're *useful*.

    Big words.
    I had to look them up :)


    The economy, while rooted in SOME basic tenants is also highly voodoo as well to
    some degree.

    More variables and interactions than one can reasonably expect to gather sufficient data to model with. Plus a lot of these variables are
    "squishy" in that they're things like consumer sentiments.

    Back in the 80's when I was working on Wall Street I was in the computer command center on black Monday 10/19/1987 of one of the largest brokerage firms on the planet.

    I was watching the SAD displays (System Activity Display) of the various mainframe computers
    running the business and these were bar graphs that typically would go up and down.
    They were pegged full on and the high level executives were concerned that the computers
    would crash under the load.

    That was when I learned how trend analysis worked.
    So basically at the time, considering the technology, the mainframes would figure out
    for example, what stocks went up or down every time say GM stock went up or down.

    It was an eye opener for sure.


    Back in the late 70's into the 80's brokers were moonlighting driving taxi cabs
    in NYC and the joke was well if you know so much about where the market is headed
    why aren't YOU rich?

    I'm mixed on Trump's tariffs TBH.

    I see them as a train wreck, which the Market today is also voting with
    their dollars manifested as a stampede for the door: DJIA closed -1679
    (-4%) SP500 -274 (-4.8%) NASDAQ -1050 (-6%).


    I think it's going to take some time to sink in and stabilize.
    The markets sure are tanking, but why?
    The USA has been getting screwed on tariffs for years so it's about time
    we level the playing field.

    Is Trump's methodology the correct way, I'm not so sure.


    However I am 1000000% in favor of bringing jobs, especially manufacturing jobs,
    back stateside.

    Agreed ... to a degree. There's pros/cons to any policy, so the broader question is what are these pros/cons and where have the current policies
    been delinquent. Because part of that these trades is that one only has
    a finite labor pool to allocate, so is it better to have, say, 20%
    working in low value-added & fungible goods vs alternatives, such as in better paying Service industry jobs.

    It's all about profit and satisfying the stockholders and far less about control and not allowing the US to become vulnerable and dependent upon
    other countries for our goods.

    I am anti corporation and especially those linked tightly to overseas manufacturing.
    I will gladly pay an extra $100 for a TV made in the USA.
    I think most people feel the same.
    We have lost control and that is extremely dangerous.


    As for tariffs themselves, I would like to see fair trade.

    The problem is what is an effective definition for what is "fair"?
    Because it can't be merely this formula based on trade balance, where
    Trump is imposing tariffs on literally uninhabited islands (and also on
    our own military base on Diego Garcia!), which only shows up because its shown as the 'origin' for some lobsters caught there.

    Fair is no tariff at all.
    As for islands, these are sweeping regulations.
    Look up what tariffs other countries impose upon US goods.

    All Trump is saying is we need fair trade.
    Some countries are already asking for negations.
    Others are still fighting back.
    Time will tell.

    I doubt China will ever agree, but I'm sure we can work something out with >> other countries.
    Why should the US be screwed all the time?
    Level set the playing field is all I would like to see.

    My personal thoughts on it is that the manufacture of physical goods
    should have had (for decades) a baseline that's pollution-based: make
    goods in an environmentally dirty fashion is cheaper, so that becomes
    the basis of a 'tariff'-esque handicap. However, this is limited to
    just physical goods, not services.

    Personally I disagree.
    As long as reasonable guidelines are set, I don't give a hoot about
    green, over regulation that slows the process and costs the consumer.

    So yea, a factory shouldn't be allowed to pollute a river by dumping
    toxic chemicals from manufacturing into it.
    But at the same time, the type of windows, heating system, etc should not
    be over regulated.


    Will Trump's tariffs upset the economy?
    Maybe.

    Market today showed that they're betting that it will be a huge upset.

    Just a point in time.
    The market goes up and it goes down.
    Time will tell.

    But what is the alternative?
    We simply cannot go on as things are.

    So long as revenues received from services exported still exceed
    revenues out from material goods imported ... why can't it? After all,
    that is still a next inflow of cash.

    We can increase those revenues by not being the world's piggy bank.
    Why can other nations impose huge tariffs on the US but we can't do the same? For example, India has a 100% tariff on US agricultural goods.

    Why is the left so opposed to fair trade?
    That is really the question here.

    Similar question for why is the left so opposed to eliminating government waste?


    What do you propose?

    Well, it starts with not using tariff exemptions as a means of blackmail/extortion.

    It's simply a tool to negotiate fair trade.

    It is also integral to our overall fiscal policies in how the government should/shouldn't generate its operating revenue, specifically on the
    question of how the policies are assessed to determine if they're
    progressive vs regressive. Note that this isn't a question of if the government is "too big"/"spending too much": anyone trying to claim
    that is attempting to make a diversion to avoid its key policy point.


    You are way deep in the weeds.
    This is simple.
    You inflict tariffs on US goods, we will do the same to you.
    And why shouldn't we?



    -hh




    --
    pothead
    Liberalism Is A Mental Disease
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Apr 4 07:15:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 12:19:25 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy. It's What
    | Republicans Do.

    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy

    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted

    |
    | President Trump's mindless tariffs will cause economic havoc
    | But the rest of the world can limit the damage
    | ...
    <https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/04/03/president-trumps-mindless-tariffs-will-cause-economic-havoc>


    As China announces new tariffs (when it already tariffs our products).


    |
    | Trump's Tariffs Aim to Create a New World Economic Order
    |
    | The announcement Wednesday stunned markets. It could also
    | push countries--including the U.S.--to the brink of
    | recession
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/trumps-tariffs-aim-to-create-a-new-world-economic-order-f48057ae>

    --bks

    Why do you want every country to take advantage of the US?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Apr 4 07:16:15 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 16:28:45 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy. It's What
    | Republicans Do.

    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy

    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted

    | President Trump's mindless tariffs will cause economic havoc

    |
    | Americans Will Pay the Price for Reckless Tariffs
    | ...
    <https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/04/americans-will-pay-the-price-for-reckless-tariffs/>

    --bks

    This country needs to produce products here.

    End of story.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Apr 4 05:25:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/4/25 4:15, NoBody wrote:
    Why do you want every country to take advantage of the US?

    Yes.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Apr 4 05:31:20 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/4/25 4:16, NoBody wrote:
    This country needs to produce products here.

    End of story.

    <https://www.industryselect.com/blog/top-10-us-states-for-manufacturing>

    About the Top 10 U.S. Manufacturing States

    1: California

    With 22,255 manufacturers employing 1,350,085 manufacturing
    workers, California is the nation’s largest manufacturing state.
    A hotbed for innovation, electronics is California’s largest
    industrial sector, home to top companies such as Tesla, Raytheon,
    Northrop Grumman, and General Atomics. With its educated
    workforce and abundant capital, California continues to see
    growth in its electronics sector, while retaining strongholds in
    food processing and machinery.

    According to the National Association of Manufacturers,
    California accounted for 12.32% of the total output and 7.57% of
    the workforce in the state’s manufacturing sector in 2021, with
    an output of $394.83 billion. California also leads the nation in
    exporting manufactured goods, with $134 billion worth of exports
    in 2020.

    Reach all of California’s 26,000+ industrial companies and 63,000
    + executives with MNI’s California Manufacturing Industry Database.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to pothead on Fri Apr 4 09:40:45 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/3/25 20:02, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-04-03, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/1/25 22:16, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-04-01, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/1/25 07:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 12:16:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>
    |
    | Policy uncertainty and new sweeping tariffs from the Trump
    | administration are combining to create a stagflationary
    | outlook for the U.S. economy in the latest CNBC Rapid
    | Update.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/31/first-quarter-gdp-growth-will-be-just-0point3percent-as-tariffs-stoke-stagflation-conditions-says-cnbc-survey.html>

    |
    | Uncertainty around how and when Congress will enact tax
    | legislation, on top of Trump's ever-changing tariff
    | announcements, is dragging down expectations for
    | investment, surveys from across the country show. Many
    | firms are putting their investment plans, a key driver of
    | economic growth, on hold. That's one reason why economists
    | are dialing back growth forecasts for this year.
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-31/us-business-put-spending-plans-on-ice-with-tariffs-tax-cut-wait?srnd=homepage-americas>

    --bks

    Laughter.

    I warned you a year ago that Biden's inflation was going to cause a
    recession. They don't happen over night. This is that particular
    chicken coming home to roost.

    And you'll actually blame Trump for this.

    Sad.


    Well, Goldman Sachs is blaming Trump for it. Their latest report hit
    the news yesterday and they've put the recession risk update at 35%:

    <https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/31/business/recession-tariffs-goldman-sachs/index.html>


    Update: JP Morgan has raised the US recession risk to 60%

    <https://www.reuters.com/markets/jpmorgan-lifts-global-recession-odds-60-us-tariffs-stoke-fears-2025-04-04/>


    And for "But Blame Biden!" attempts, the problem with this claim is
    Goldman Sach's last report has changed since the election. Their last >>>> assessment prior to the election was in Oct 2024 and it said a 15% risk: >>>>
    Headline (8 Oct 24)
    <https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/articles/the-probability-of-a-us-recession-in-the-next-year-has-fallen-to-15-percent>

    Full analysis (6 Oct 24):
    <https://www.gspublishing.com/content/research/en/reports/2024/10/07/8ba0c80f-a90e-49f9-8c38-1276047e7533.html>


    And now that 1Q is over so firms can go back to deviating from their
    index fund percentages, the DJIA has just opened with a 200 points drop. >>>>

    -hh

    Personally I don't trust any of the financial firms because they are wrong more
    often than not.


    Their assessments have to be stochastic, not deterministic. As such,
    its not if they are/aren't "correct", but if they're *useful*.

    Big words.
    I had to look them up :)


    The economy, while rooted in SOME basic tenants is also highly voodoo as well to
    some degree.

    More variables and interactions than one can reasonably expect to gather
    sufficient data to model with. Plus a lot of these variables are
    "squishy" in that they're things like consumer sentiments.

    Back in the 80's when I was working on Wall Street I was in the computer command center on black Monday 10/19/1987 of one of the largest brokerage firms on the planet.

    I was watching the SAD displays (System Activity Display) of the various mainframe computers
    running the business and these were bar graphs that typically would go up and down.
    They were pegged full on and the high level executives were concerned that the computers
    would crash under the load.

    That was when I learned how trend analysis worked.
    So basically at the time, considering the technology, the mainframes would figure out
    for example, what stocks went up or down every time say GM stock went up or down.

    It was an eye opener for sure.

    Yes, there's a lot of M&S that's been in development for decades for
    investment houses to have a competitive edge over others. As I'd just
    posted a few minutes ago, a friend's DIY modeler is able to detect the
    trading logic of these large trading houses, and uses them to inform his
    own day trading momentum-based plans. I have an older copy of his
    model, but my hardware isn't beefy enough to run it.


    Back in the late 70's into the 80's brokers were moonlighting driving taxi cabs
    in NYC and the joke was well if you know so much about where the market is headed
    why aren't YOU rich?

    I'm mixed on Trump's tariffs TBH.

    I see them as a train wreck, which the Market today is also voting with
    their dollars manifested as a stampede for the door: DJIA closed -1679
    (-4%) SP500 -274 (-4.8%) NASDAQ -1050 (-6%).


    I think it's going to take some time to sink in and stabilize.

    Well, Asia was down -3% today, and Europe is -3% to -4% at present. US
    futures started tanking at ~4am; a bit more stable at this hour, but
    still looks like another big down day again, roughly comparable to
    yesterday (DJIA -1400; SP500 -140; NASDAQ -700):


    The markets sure are tanking, but why?

    Because the tariffs are a sudden and highly disruptive shock to long
    term corporate plans & operations.

    The USA has been getting screwed on tariffs for years so it's about time
    we level the playing field.

    Or the US hasn't really been getting 'screwed' on tariffs in the fashion
    that we're being told. For example, if this is about trying to restore manufacturing jobs for the middle class, that's a deluded belief mired
    in the 1970s/80s because its too late: those jobs have already been
    ~90% eliminated by automation worldwide.


    Is Trump's methodology the correct way, I'm not so sure.

    The methodology is from the Mafia protection racket 'shakedown' book.

    That's good for the bosses, but not the working class, nor country.


    However I am 1000000% in favor of bringing jobs, especially manufacturing jobs,
    back stateside.

    Agreed ... to a degree. There's pros/cons to any policy, so the broader
    question is what are these pros/cons and where have the current policies
    been delinquent. Because part of that these trades is that one only has
    a finite labor pool to allocate, so is it better to have, say, 20%
    working in low value-added & fungible goods vs alternatives, such as in
    better paying Service industry jobs.

    It's all about profit and satisfying the stockholders and far less about control and not allowing the US to become vulnerable and dependent upon
    other countries for our goods.

    Its a trade-off, as increased trade & economic ties between sovereigns
    makes military conflicts vastly less likely to occur between them.


    I am anti corporation and especially those linked tightly to overseas manufacturing.
    I will gladly pay an extra $100 for a TV made in the USA.
    I think most people feel the same.

    Most people do say & believe that, but when it comes to actually doing that...most do not:

    "A Reuters/Ipsos poll released on [July 2017] found 70 percent of
    Americans think it is “very important” or “somewhat important” to buy U.S.-made products.

    Despite that sentiment, 37 percent said they would refuse to pay more
    for U.S.-made goods versus imports. Twenty six percent said they would
    only pay up to 5 percent more to buy American, and 21 percent capped the premium at 10 percent."

    <https://www.reuters.com/article/business/americans-want-us-goods-but-not-willing-to-pay-more-reutersipsos-poll-idUSKBN1A3210/>


    We have lost control and that is extremely dangerous.

    Decades without a major world conflict that kills millions.


    As for tariffs themselves, I would like to see fair trade.

    The problem is what is an effective definition for what is "fair"?
    Because it can't be merely this formula based on trade balance, where
    Trump is imposing tariffs on literally uninhabited islands (and also on
    our own military base on Diego Garcia!), which only shows up because its
    shown as the 'origin' for some lobsters caught there.

    Fair is no tariff at all.
    As for islands, these are sweeping regulations.
    Look up what tariffs other countries impose upon US goods.

    FYI, do be aware that a lot of the 'tariff' numbers that Trump released yesterday are flat-out wrong.

    All Trump is saying is we need fair trade.
    Some countries are already asking for negations.
    Others are still fighting back.
    Time will tell.

    There's also been analysis which identified what formula was used - -
    its not based on tariffs at all, but trade imbalance. Needless to day,
    a country that's 1/10th the size of the USA can't import as much goods
    for their local economy as they can sell to us, so there's structurally fundamental imbalances that no tariff can ever fix.

    Likewise, its been determined that the work was done by a LLM AI, and
    not checked well by a human: that's why there were so many weird
    locations named -- it wasn't by actual sovereign nation, but by Internet country code top-level domains (ccTLD). For example, the tariff on the
    US Military Base at Diego Garcia is domain ".io", and the penguins at
    the uninhabited Heard and McDonald Islands is ".hm"



    I doubt China will ever agree, but I'm sure we can work something
    out with other countries.
    Why should the US be screwed all the time?
    Level set the playing field is all I would like to see.

    My personal thoughts on it is that the manufacture of physical goods
    should have had (for decades) a baseline that's pollution-based: make
    goods in an environmentally dirty fashion is cheaper, so that becomes
    the basis of a 'tariff'-esque handicap. However, this is limited to
    just physical goods, not services.

    Personally I disagree.
    As long as reasonable guidelines are set, I don't give a hoot about
    green, over regulation that slows the process and costs the consumer.

    So yea, a factory shouldn't be allowed to pollute a river by dumping
    toxic chemicals from manufacturing into it.
    But at the same time, the type of windows, heating system, etc should not
    be over regulated.

    I mentioned this approach because things like environmental regulations
    are an example of where we can honestly say that domestic industries
    have been handicapped, which raises our domestic products' costs.

    To that end, we would not be forcing other nations to "clean up", but
    simply assigning a trade-based externality expense to their policies
    which are easy to objectively measure and be able uphold in places like
    the WTO.

    Will Trump's tariffs upset the economy?
    Maybe.

    Market today showed that they're betting that it will be a huge upset.

    Just a point in time.
    The market goes up and it goes down.
    Time will tell.

    Indeed it will. Who within your family needs to still work, and thus
    will be adversely affected by a recession later this year?


    But what is the alternative?
    We simply cannot go on as things are.

    So long as revenues received from services exported still exceed
    revenues out from material goods imported ... why can't it? After all,
    that is still a next inflow of cash.

    We can increase those revenues by not being the world's piggy bank.

    There's tremendous power by being the world's piggy bank.

    Why can other nations impose huge tariffs on the US but we can't do the same?

    Again, look at the real tariff data, not Trump's bogus numbers from
    yesterday.

    For example, what's the tariff being imposed on the USA from the Heard
    and McDonald Islands?

    For example, India has a 100% tariff on US agricultural goods.

    Says who?

    Because this cite says its 17% overall, with Agricultural goods at 39%.:

    <https://www.india-briefing.com/news/us-imposes-26-tariff-on-india-36763.html/>

    Someone's lying.


    Why is the left so opposed to fair trade?
    That is really the question here.

    Someone's lying.


    Similar question for why is the left so opposed to eliminating government waste?

    Someone's lying. The pushback has been because DOGE/MAGA has been
    claiming that there's huuuuuuuuuge amounts of waste/fraud/abuse, but
    they've still not found anything significant, or which wasn't
    Congressionally authorized:

    One can dispute that you don't *like* a particular spending program, but
    the Agencies all have to work within the budgets and directives therein
    that Congress orders them to do. As such, if you don't like there being
    an HIV control program in Gaza, Mozambique - tell Congress to stop
    funding the Agency that was assigned to carry out that policy task.


    What do you propose?

    Well, it starts with not using tariff exemptions as a means of
    blackmail/extortion.

    It's simply a tool to negotiate fair trade.

    I disagree. We can watch where the likely negotiations go -- and the
    key thing to watch for is a "follow the money", with emphasis on who
    gets the money. If it isn't the US public, you're being ripped off.

    For example:

    "Vietnam...moved to approve Starlink services, as the country tries to
    avoid being hit with US tariffs because of its large bilateral trade
    surplus."

    <https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/business/vietnam-approves-starlink-us-tariffs-intl-hnk/index.html>


    It is also integral to our overall fiscal policies in how the government
    should/shouldn't generate its operating revenue, specifically on the
    question of how the policies are assessed to determine if they're
    progressive vs regressive. Note that this isn't a question of if the
    government is "too big"/"spending too much": anyone trying to claim
    that is attempting to make a diversion to avoid its key policy point.


    You are way deep in the weeds.
    This is simple.
    You inflict tariffs on US goods, we will do the same to you.
    And why shouldn't we?

    Because they're lying about what the tariff rates really are, for a
    start.

    Because they're being deliberately disruptive to commerce, which
    benefits our enemies (like Russia) more than it helps ourselves.

    Because they're out for personal gain, not to benefit the USA.

    Because tariffs of this magnitude have catastrophically failed both
    times we've tried it before, plunging us into deeper
    recessions/depressions. Are you ready for 15+ years of a bad economy?

    Because the propaganda is "Short term pain for long term gain", but
    they've failed to provide the business case with ROI details for how
    much short term pain and what the probability is for long term gain (how
    much, and how far distant in the future): since they can't quantify
    this, it really means that they have a very poor business case.

    Because we also know that tariffs are a regressive tax policy which
    hurts the lower/middle class with lesser impact on the top 5%.

    And so on.

    -hh

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 4 22:23:52 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    |
    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs
    |
    | China to apply 34% tariff on U.S. goods. Nasdaq falls into
    | bear-market territory, while oil sinks.
    | ... <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-tariffs-trade-war-04-04-2025>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 5 08:52:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 05:31:20 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/4/25 4:16, NoBody wrote:
    This country needs to produce products here.

    End of story.

    <https://www.industryselect.com/blog/top-10-us-states-for-manufacturing>

    About the Top 10 U.S. Manufacturing States

    1: California

    With 22,255 manufacturers employing 1,350,085 manufacturing
    workers, California is the nation?s largest manufacturing state.
    A hotbed for innovation, electronics is California?s largest
    industrial sector, home to top companies such as Tesla, Raytheon,
    Northrop Grumman, and General Atomics. With its educated
    workforce and abundant capital, California continues to see
    growth in its electronics sector, while retaining strongholds in
    food processing and machinery.

    According to the National Association of Manufacturers,
    California accounted for 12.32% of the total output and 7.57% of
    the workforce in the state?s manufacturing sector in 2021, with
    an output of $394.83 billion. California also leads the nation in
    exporting manufactured goods, with $134 billion worth of exports
    in 2020.

    Reach all of California?s 26,000+ industrial companies and 63,000
    + executives with MNI?s California Manufacturing Industry Database.

    And yet companies are running out of California as fast as they can.


    In any case, your attempt to change the subject is noted.

    Please try again.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 5 13:50:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs
    |
    | China to apply 34% tariff on U.S. goods. Nasdaq falls into
    | bear-market territory, while oil sinks.

    | ...
    | What's unique about this situation is that the
    | protectionism is unpredictable and unstable. And it's that
    | uncertainty that is the recessionary force.
    |
    | If you were a manufacturing company in the United States
    | and your next investment is going to be, let's say, a
    | components plant or something -- well, should you put that
    | components plant in Mexico, where it's cheaper? Not if
    | there's a 25 percent tariff. But should you put it in the
    | United States, where it's more expensive? What if the
    | tariff comes off?
    |
    | So either way, you run substantial risk of just having
    | stranded investments. And that's happening across the
    | board. So this is the instability of policy. The fact that
    | nobody knows what's coming next makes a recession certainly
    | a whole lot more likely.
    | ... <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/05/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-paul-krugman.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9U4.P3J4.atlRqcfq-szY&smid=url-share>

    --bks

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Apr 5 09:41:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/5/2025 5:52 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 05:31:20 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/4/25 4:16, NoBody wrote:
    This country needs to produce products here.

    End of story.

    <https://www.industryselect.com/blog/top-10-us-states-for-manufacturing>

    About the Top 10 U.S. Manufacturing States

    1: California

    With 22,255 manufacturers employing 1,350,085 manufacturing
    workers, California is the nation?s largest manufacturing state.
    A hotbed for innovation, electronics is California?s largest
    industrial sector, home to top companies such as Tesla, Raytheon,
    Northrop Grumman, and General Atomics. With its educated
    workforce and abundant capital, California continues to see
    growth in its electronics sector, while retaining strongholds in
    food processing and machinery.

    According to the National Association of Manufacturers,
    California accounted for 12.32% of the total output and 7.57% of
    the workforce in the state?s manufacturing sector in 2021, with
    an output of $394.83 billion. California also leads the nation in
    exporting manufactured goods, with $134 billion worth of exports
    in 2020.

    Reach all of California?s 26,000+ industrial companies and 63,000
    + executives with MNI?s California Manufacturing Industry Database.

    And yet companies are running out of California as fast as they can.
    Bullshit.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 5 11:19:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <S2dIP.129796$[email protected]>, Iron_White@Systemic_Parasitism.KMA says...

    On 4/5/2025 5:52 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 05:31:20 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/4/25 4:16, NoBody wrote:
    This country needs to produce products here.

    End of story.

    <https://www.industryselect.com/blog/top-10-us-states-for-manufacturing> >>
    About the Top 10 U.S. Manufacturing States

    1: California

    With 22,255 manufacturers employing 1,350,085 manufacturing
    workers, California is the nation?s largest manufacturing state.
    A hotbed for innovation, electronics is California?s largest
    industrial sector, home to top companies such as Tesla, Raytheon,
    Northrop Grumman, and General Atomics. With its educated
    workforce and abundant capital, California continues to see
    growth in its electronics sector, while retaining strongholds in
    food processing and machinery.

    According to the National Association of Manufacturers,
    California accounted for 12.32% of the total output and 7.57% of
    the workforce in the state?s manufacturing sector in 2021, with
    an output of $394.83 billion. California also leads the nation in
    exporting manufactured goods, with $134 billion worth of exports
    in 2020.

    Reach all of California?s 26,000+ industrial companies and 63,000
    + executives with MNI?s California Manufacturing Industry Database.

    And yet companies are running out of California as fast as they can.
    Bullshit.

    Oh they have been for sometime. Look at how many left San
    Francisco because of woke bullshit.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Apr 6 08:57:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:50:23 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs
    |
    | China to apply 34% tariff on U.S. goods. Nasdaq falls into
    | bear-market territory, while oil sinks.

    | ...
    | What's unique about this situation is that the
    | protectionism is unpredictable and unstable. And it's that
    | uncertainty that is the recessionary force.
    |
    | If you were a manufacturing company in the United States
    | and your next investment is going to be, let's say, a
    | components plant or something -- well, should you put that
    | components plant in Mexico, where it's cheaper? Not if
    | there's a 25 percent tariff. But should you put it in the
    | United States, where it's more expensive? What if the
    | tariff comes off?
    |
    | So either way, you run substantial risk of just having
    | stranded investments. And that's happening across the
    | board. So this is the instability of policy. The fact that
    | nobody knows what's coming next makes a recession certainly
    | a whole lot more likely.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/05/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-paul-krugman.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9U4.P3J4.atlRqcfq-szY&smid=url-share>

    --bks

    This is what business people do all the time, make decisions.

    Your point?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Apr 6 08:58:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 05 Apr 2025 08:52:12 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 05:31:20 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/4/25 4:16, NoBody wrote:
    This country needs to produce products here.

    End of story.

    <https://www.industryselect.com/blog/top-10-us-states-for-manufacturing>

    About the Top 10 U.S. Manufacturing States

    1: California

    With 22,255 manufacturers employing 1,350,085 manufacturing
    workers, California is the nation?s largest manufacturing state.
    A hotbed for innovation, electronics is California?s largest
    industrial sector, home to top companies such as Tesla, Raytheon,
    Northrop Grumman, and General Atomics. With its educated
    workforce and abundant capital, California continues to see
    growth in its electronics sector, while retaining strongholds in
    food processing and machinery.

    According to the National Association of Manufacturers,
    California accounted for 12.32% of the total output and 7.57% of
    the workforce in the state?s manufacturing sector in 2021, with
    an output of $394.83 billion. California also leads the nation in
    exporting manufactured goods, with $134 billion worth of exports
    in 2020.

    Reach all of California?s 26,000+ industrial companies and 63,000
    + executives with MNI?s California Manufacturing Industry Database.

    And yet companies are running out of California as fast as they can.


    In any case, your attempt to change the subject is noted.

    Please try again.

    And the drunk has vanished.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 6 13:14:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs
    |
    | China to apply 34% tariff on U.S. goods. Nasdaq falls into
    | bear-market territory, while oil sinks.

    |
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis
    |
    | Banks ask clients to stump up additional money as global
    | market sell-off knocks value of holdings
    | ...
    <https://www.ft.com/content/8ba439ec-297c-4372-ba45-37e9d7fd1771>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 6 23:06:41 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs
    |
    | China to apply 34% tariff on U.S. goods. Nasdaq falls into
    | bear-market territory, while oil sinks.

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis
    |
    | Banks ask clients to stump up additional money as global
    | market sell-off knocks value of holdings

    This headline just popped up:
    |
    | Stock futures drop sharply; Jim Cramer warns of new 'Black
    | Monday'
    | ... <https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5235220-us-stocks-tariff-impact/>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 7 00:28:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | Stock futures drop sharply; Jim Cramer warns of new 'Black
    | Monday'

    |
    | Japan Nikkei plunges at least 8% after open
    | ... <https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/06/business/japan-nikkei-plunges-hnk-intl/index.html>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Mon Apr 7 09:24:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 13:14:31 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs
    |
    | China to apply 34% tariff on U.S. goods. Nasdaq falls into
    | bear-market territory, while oil sinks.

    |
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis
    |
    | Banks ask clients to stump up additional money as global
    | market sell-off knocks value of holdings
    | ...
    <https://www.ft.com/content/8ba439ec-297c-4372-ba45-37e9d7fd1771>

    --bks

    You should be in favor of this because you hate the rich.

    Right????

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 7 13:48:53 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | ...
    | If the benchmark index were to lose more than 4% in value
    | on Monday, it would be the third consecutive trading day it
    | has posted declines of more than 4%. And that would be the
    | first time the S&P 500 has suffered three consecutive drops
    | of more than 4% in almost a century, since the 1929 stock
    | market crash that marked the onset of the Great Depression.
    | ... <https://qz.com/sp500-djia-nasdaq-stocks-markets-trump-tariffs-1851775017>

    S&P down 3.70% as I type.

    --bks

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Apr 7 07:07:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 7/4/25 6:24, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 13:14:31 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs
    |
    | China to apply 34% tariff on U.S. goods. Nasdaq falls into
    | bear-market territory, while oil sinks.

    |
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis
    |
    | Banks ask clients to stump up additional money as global
    | market sell-off knocks value of holdings
    | ...
    <https://www.ft.com/content/8ba439ec-297c-4372-ba45-37e9d7fd1771>

    --bks

    You should be in favor of this because you hate the rich.

    Right????


    Who is going to pay for new factories?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 7 17:53:46 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    |
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | ... <https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2025-04-07/stagflation-is-now-america-s-best-case-scenario>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 7 19:46:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario

    |
    | BlackRock CEO Larry Fink said at an event this afternoon
    | that most CEOs he talks to "would say we are probably in a
    | recession now".
    |
    | Fink said one CEO said the airline industry - which cut
    | 2025 forecasts due to falling demand - tends to be a canary
    | in the coal mine for a recession. He also said that he's
    | concerned about elevated inflation.
    | ... <https://www.theguardian.com/business/blog/live/2025/apr/07/global-stock-markets-brace-donald-trump-us-tariffs-business-live-updates-news?page=with%3Ablock-67f4195f8f08e0f1eb032268#block-67f4195f8f08e0f1eb032268>
    (Volatile URL)

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Apr 8 09:08:25 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 13:48:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | ...
    | If the benchmark index were to lose more than 4% in value
    | on Monday, it would be the third consecutive trading day it
    | has posted declines of more than 4%. And that would be the
    | first time the S&P 500 has suffered three consecutive drops
    | of more than 4% in almost a century, since the 1929 stock
    | market crash that marked the onset of the Great Depression.
    | ...
    <https://qz.com/sp500-djia-nasdaq-stocks-markets-trump-tariffs-1851775017>

    S&P down 3.70% as I type.

    --bks


    It didn't end that way. Where's your retraction?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Apr 8 09:09:56 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 07 Apr 2025 09:24:23 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 13:14:31 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs
    |
    | China to apply 34% tariff on U.S. goods. Nasdaq falls into
    | bear-market territory, while oil sinks.

    |
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis
    |
    | Banks ask clients to stump up additional money as global
    | market sell-off knocks value of holdings
    | ...
    <https://www.ft.com/content/8ba439ec-297c-4372-ba45-37e9d7fd1771>

    --bks

    You should be in favor of this because you hate the rich.

    Right????

    And Bradley-bot has run away.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 8 21:51:25 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    |
    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War
    |
    | Business leaders have avoided voicing concerns about
    | tariffs for weeks, but some are getting vocal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/business/trump-tariffs-ceo-reactions-11ccd78b>

    --bks

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Apr 8 19:46:25 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 21:51:25 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    |
    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War
    |
    | Business leaders have avoided voicing concerns about
    | tariffs for weeks, but some are getting vocal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/business/trump-tariffs-ceo-reactions-11ccd78b>

    --bks

    Dumbshits are selling... They'll lose. Tough shit.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Tue Apr 8 18:25:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 8/4/25 16:46, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 21:51:25 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>
    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    |
    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War
    |
    | Business leaders have avoided voicing concerns about
    | tariffs for weeks, but some are getting vocal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/business/trump-tariffs-ceo-reactions-11ccd78b>

    --bks

    Dumbshits are selling... They'll lose. Tough shit.


    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost>

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 9 12:36:39 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Big Bank CEOs Reckon With Their Lack of Influence on Trump
    |
    | Tariffs extinguish animal spirits as deals grind to a halt
    | and recession forecasts climb
    | ... <https://www.wsj.com/finance/banking/trump-big-bank-influence-tariffs-c3897775>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Apr 9 09:37:27 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 21:51:25 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    |
    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War
    |
    | Business leaders have avoided voicing concerns about
    | tariffs for weeks, but some are getting vocal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/business/trump-tariffs-ceo-reactions-11ccd78b>

    --bks

    Not in favor of the American worker I see.

    I'm shocked...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org on Wed Apr 9 09:38:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 08 Apr 2025 19:46:25 -0400, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> wrote:

    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 21:51:25 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>
    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    |
    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War
    |
    | Business leaders have avoided voicing concerns about
    | tariffs for weeks, but some are getting vocal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/business/trump-tariffs-ceo-reactions-11ccd78b>

    --bks

    Dumbshits are selling... They'll lose. Tough shit.

    If Bradley is not a bot, you know damn sure he's buying because
    liberals never practice what they preach.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Apr 9 09:39:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 12:36:39 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Big Bank CEOs Reckon With Their Lack of Influence on Trump
    |
    | Tariffs extinguish animal spirits as deals grind to a halt
    | and recession forecasts climb
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/finance/banking/trump-big-bank-influence-tariffs-c3897775>

    --bks

    Isn't this exactly wht you've asked for?
    Yet you still whine...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 9 13:50:53 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns
    |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the
    | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a
    | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ... <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Wed Apr 9 13:47:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/8/25 19:46, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 21:51:25 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>
    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    |
    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War
    |
    | Business leaders have avoided voicing concerns about
    | tariffs for weeks, but some are getting vocal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/business/trump-tariffs-ceo-reactions-11ccd78b>

    --bks

    Dumbshits are selling... They'll lose. Tough shit.

    The "Dumbshits" are the ones trying to catch a falling knife.

    How much are your March purchases down so far, BLM?


    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 9 12:00:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <vt6bs4$k23n$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/8/25 19:46, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 21:51:25 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>
    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    |
    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War
    |
    | Business leaders have avoided voicing concerns about
    | tariffs for weeks, but some are getting vocal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/business/trump-tariffs-ceo-reactions-11ccd78b>

    --bks

    Dumbshits are selling... They'll lose. Tough shit.

    The "Dumbshits" are the ones trying to catch a falling knife.

    How much are your March purchases down so far, BLM?


    -hh

    Market is rising. Idiots lost and smart people won.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 9 12:32:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <vt6e5v$k23l$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/9/25 14:00, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt6bs4$k23n$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/8/25 19:46, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 21:51:25 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    |
    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War
    |
    | Business leaders have avoided voicing concerns about
    | tariffs for weeks, but some are getting vocal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/business/trump-tariffs-ceo-reactions-11ccd78b>

    --bks

    Dumbshits are selling... They'll lose. Tough shit.

    The "Dumbshits" are the ones trying to catch a falling knife.

    How much are your March purchases down so far, BLM?


    -hh

    Market is rising. Idiots lost and smart people won.

    After 1pm, directly in response to Trump folding with a "90 day pause".

    That's not folding dumbass. "The art of the deal"

    And despite this ongoing rebound, investors are still down by -2% for
    the Week, and down -8 YTD.

    "winning!" /s

    Yes winning.

    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Wed Apr 9 14:27:11 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/9/25 14:00, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt6bs4$k23n$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/8/25 19:46, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 21:51:25 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>
    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    |
    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War
    |
    | Business leaders have avoided voicing concerns about
    | tariffs for weeks, but some are getting vocal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/business/trump-tariffs-ceo-reactions-11ccd78b>

    --bks

    Dumbshits are selling... They'll lose. Tough shit.

    The "Dumbshits" are the ones trying to catch a falling knife.

    How much are your March purchases down so far, BLM?


    -hh

    Market is rising. Idiots lost and smart people won.

    After 1pm, directly in response to Trump folding with a "90 day pause".

    And despite this ongoing rebound, investors are still down by -2% for
    the Week, and down -8 YTD.

    "winning!" /s


    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Wed Apr 9 15:24:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/9/25 14:32, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt6e5v$k23l$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/9/25 14:00, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt6bs4$k23n$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/8/25 19:46, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 21:51:25 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid >>>>>>>>> | crisis

    |
    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War
    |
    | Business leaders have avoided voicing concerns about
    | tariffs for weeks, but some are getting vocal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/business/trump-tariffs-ceo-reactions-11ccd78b> >>>>>>
    --bks

    Dumbshits are selling... They'll lose. Tough shit.

    The "Dumbshits" are the ones trying to catch a falling knife.

    How much are your March purchases down so far, BLM?


    -hh

    Market is rising. Idiots lost and smart people won.

    After 1pm, directly in response to Trump folding with a "90 day pause".

    That's not folding dumbass. "The art of the deal"

    No, not when you make this concession to make you LESS underwater.


    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 9 16:25:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 12:00:58 -0600, Skeeter OG <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    In article <vt6bs4$k23n$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/8/25 19:46, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 21:51:25 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    |
    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War
    |
    | Business leaders have avoided voicing concerns about
    | tariffs for weeks, but some are getting vocal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/business/trump-tariffs-ceo-reactions-11ccd78b>

    --bks

    Dumbshits are selling... They'll lose. Tough shit.

    The "Dumbshits" are the ones trying to catch a falling knife.

    How much are your March purchases down so far, BLM?


    -hh

    Market is rising. Idiots lost and smart people won.

    Too bad the market is affected by the morons who panacked and sold.Of
    course, they're loss is other people'd gain.

    Buy low, sell high.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 9 15:41:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <vt6hi0$19g3p$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/9/25 14:32, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt6e5v$k23l$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/9/25 14:00, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt6bs4$k23n$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/8/25 19:46, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 21:51:25 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid >>>>>>>>> | crisis

    |
    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War
    |
    | Business leaders have avoided voicing concerns about
    | tariffs for weeks, but some are getting vocal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/business/trump-tariffs-ceo-reactions-11ccd78b> >>>>>>
    --bks

    Dumbshits are selling... They'll lose. Tough shit.

    The "Dumbshits" are the ones trying to catch a falling knife.

    How much are your March purchases down so far, BLM?


    -hh

    Market is rising. Idiots lost and smart people won.

    After 1pm, directly in response to Trump folding with a "90 day pause".

    That's not folding dumbass. "The art of the deal"

    No, not when you make this concession to make you LESS underwater.


    Cry a river. You can't stand it. The art of the deal.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Duane D La Motte@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Wed Apr 9 14:52:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/9/2025 1:25 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 12:00:58 -0600, Skeeter OG <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    In article <vt6bs4$k23n$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/8/25 19:46, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 21:51:25 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    |
    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War
    |
    | Business leaders have avoided voicing concerns about
    | tariffs for weeks, but some are getting vocal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/business/trump-tariffs-ceo-reactions-11ccd78b>

    --bks

    Dumbshits are selling... They'll lose. Tough shit.

    The "Dumbshits" are the ones trying to catch a falling knife.

    How much are your March purchases down so far, BLM?


    -hh

    Market is rising. Idiots lost and smart people won.

    Too bad the market is affected by the morons who panacked [sic] and sold.Of course, they're [sic] loss is other people'd [sic] gain.

    This fuck is illiterate.


    Buy low, sell high.
    Why don't you do that?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Duane D La Motte on Wed Apr 9 18:29:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Duane D La Motte wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 4/9/2025 1:25 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:

    Market is rising. Idiots lost and smart people won.

    Too bad the market is affected by the morons who panacked [sic] and sold.Of >> course, they're [sic] loss is other people'd [sic] gain.

    This fuck is illiterate.

    Buy low, sell high.

    Why don't you do that?

    He doesn't have the insider information Trump gave to his billionaire bros.

    He's just a cop wannabe.

    --
    Academy:
    A modern school where football is taught.
    Institute:
    An archaic school where football is not taught.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Wed Apr 9 18:16:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 9/4/25 13:25, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    Market is rising. Idiots lost and smart people won.
    Too bad the market is affected by the morons who pan[i]cked and sold.Of course, the[ir] loss is other people'[s] gain.

    Buy low, sell high.

    Sunk cost fallacy. What you are left holding is still worth less.
    People like Buffet are rich because they abandon losing
    positions. They got their cash out and used it for other
    opportunities. You were stuck watching your investment die.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Apr 9 21:50:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 9/4/25 21:17, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 14:27:11 -0400, -hh wrote:
    After 1pm, directly in response to Trump folding with a "90 day pause".
    And despite this ongoing rebound, investors are still down by -2% for
    the Week, and down -8 YTD.
    "winning!" /s

    This is how we mess with him. If you don't like him, don't spend. Pay
    off debt and wait.

    Oh, nooooooo ... this one's an INSTRUMENTAL.

    Now they're dancing!


    If I were a rightist.
    Dooody dooody dooody doo doo.
    I wouldn't have to think hard.
    Dooody dooody dooody doo doo.
    If I were a rightist.
    I wallow in bucket of lard.
    Dooody dooody dooody doo doo.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu Apr 10 11:41:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid >>>>>>>>> | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns
    |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the
    | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a
    | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Apr 10 11:42:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 09 Apr 2025 09:37:27 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 21:51:25 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>
    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    |
    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War
    |
    | Business leaders have avoided voicing concerns about
    | tariffs for weeks, but some are getting vocal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/business/trump-tariffs-ceo-reactions-11ccd78b>

    --bks

    Not in favor of the American worker I see.

    I'm shocked...

    And Bradley-bot has vanished.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Apr 10 15:10:45 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid >>>>>>>>>> | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns
    |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the
    | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a
    | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 10 13:29:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>
    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid >>>>>>>>>> | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns
    |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the
    | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a
    | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Thu Apr 10 19:35:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>
    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid >>>>>>>>>>>> | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns
    |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the
    | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a
    | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday.
    Dis you?

    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 10 17:53:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid >>>>>>>>>>>> | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns
    |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the
    | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a
    | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday.
    Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Fri Apr 11 06:56:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns
    |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the
    | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a
    | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday >>>>>
    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the >>>> macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday.
    Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    -hh



    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 11 05:59:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns
    |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the
    | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a
    | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday >>>>>
    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the >>>> macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday.
    Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    -hh



    -hh

    Why? Smart people bother you?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Fri Apr 11 08:09:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns
    |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the
    | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a
    | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday >>>>>>>
    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the >>>>>> macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday.
    Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading.


    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 11 06:55:20 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <vtb0pp$1hjm8$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns
    |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the
    | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a
    | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that >>>>>>>> | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday >>>>>>>
    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's >>>>>> "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the >>>>>> macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday.
    Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a >> ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures >> bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading.


    -hh

    Prove it. So no demorats took advantage

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Apr 11 10:22:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns
    |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the
    | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a
    | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that >>>>>>>>> | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday >>>>>>>>
    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's >>>>>>> "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the >>>>>>> macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday.
    Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a >>> ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures >>> bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading.


    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is.

    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is
    going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Fri Apr 11 12:59:57 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns
    |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the
    | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a
    | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets," >>>>>>>>>> | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that >>>>>>>>>> | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday >>>>>>>>>
    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's >>>>>>>> "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the >>>>>>>> macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday.
    Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a >>>> ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks >>>> of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures >>>> bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading.


    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is.

    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron". Good to know!


    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is
    going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or
    selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information. That
    nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not available at that time to the general public. Insider information gives
    the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is
    generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly.
    An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example
    latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock.

    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Fri Apr 11 14:55:27 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the
    | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a
    | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets," >>>>>>>>>>>> | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that >>>>>>>>>>>> | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's >>>>>>>>>> "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday.
    Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a >>>>>> ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks >>>>>> of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures >>>>>> bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading.


    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is.

    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron". Good to know!


    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is
    going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or
    selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information. That
    nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not
    available at that time to the general public. Insider information gives
    the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is
    generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly.
    An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example
    latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock.

    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the
    price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid.

    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt.

    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an
    Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become**
    once that privileged information is made public to the Market.

    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant.

    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information.

    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Fri Apr 11 20:29:25 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a
    | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets," >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's >>>>>>>>>>>> "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday. >>>>>>>>>> Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks >>>>>>>> of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty? >>>>>>>
    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading. >>>>>>

    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is.

    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron". Good to know! >>>>

    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is >>>>> going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or
    selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information. That
    nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not >>>> available at that time to the general public. Insider information gives >>>> the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is
    generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly. >>>> An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example
    latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock.

    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the
    price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid.

    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt.

    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an
    Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged
    information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become**
    once that privileged information is made public to the Market.

    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant.

    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information.

    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the
    market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when.

    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited.
    Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec: "oops!")

    -hh

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Fri Apr 11 17:52:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 11/4/25 14:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the
    market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    And you are agreeing big increases in wealth can be because of
    insider trading.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 11 19:33:39 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <vtcc55$309is$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets," >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday. >>>>>>>>>> Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty? >>>>>>>
    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading. >>>>>>

    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is.

    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron". Good to know! >>>>

    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is >>>>> going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or
    selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information. That >>>> nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not >>>> available at that time to the general public. Insider information gives >>>> the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is
    generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly. >>>> An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example
    latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock.

    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the
    price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid.

    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt.

    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an
    Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged
    information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become**
    once that privileged information is made public to the Market.

    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant.

    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information.

    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the
    market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when.

    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited.
    Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec: "oops!")

    -hh

    Foil hat time for you.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Sat Apr 12 08:56:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/11/25 21:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtcc55$309is$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>> Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty? >>>>>>>>>
    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading. >>>>>>>>

    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is.

    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron". Good to know! >>>>>>

    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is >>>>>>> going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or
    selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information. That >>>>>> nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not >>>>>> available at that time to the general public. Insider information gives >>>>>> the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is
    generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly. >>>>>> An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example >>>>>> latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock.

    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the >>>>> price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid.

    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt.

    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an
    Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged
    information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become** >>>> once that privileged information is made public to the Market.

    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant. >>>>
    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information.

    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the
    market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation
    perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when.

    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited.
    Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec: "oops!")

    -hh

    Foil hat time for you.

    Nope, just staying current on news.

    Case in point, here's a report on the signal of insider trading that
    Alan & I have been referring to:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1911011664956182676>

    And FYI, on the "oh, but both R's & D's do it" deflection attempt,
    there's reports on that unethical behavior too:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1876668203054817706>


    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sat Apr 12 09:14:56 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/12/25 04:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 20:29:25 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>> Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty? >>>>>>>>>
    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading. >>>>>>>>

    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is.

    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron". Good to know! >>>>>>

    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is >>>>>>> going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or
    selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information. That >>>>>> nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not >>>>>> available at that time to the general public. Insider information gives >>>>>> the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is
    generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly. >>>>>> An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example >>>>>> latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock.

    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the >>>>> price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid.

    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt.

    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an
    Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged
    information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become** >>>> once that privileged information is made public to the Market.

    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant. >>>>
    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information.

    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the
    market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation
    perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when.

    As if you'd know... You've already proven you know nothing about
    assets trading. you do it again below.

    Oh, look: a lame "Shoot the Messenger" personal attack attempt, because
    BLM isn't able or willing to dispute how he & average Americans are
    getting screwed.


    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited.
    Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec: "oops!")


    Case in point, receipts: here's a report on the signal of insider
    trading that Alan & I have been referring to:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1911011664956182676>

    And FYI, on the "oh, but both R's & D's do it" deflection attempts, that unethical behavior is tracked too:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1876668203054817706>


    -hh

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 12 07:21:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <vtdnts$b32l$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 21:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtcc55$309is$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>> Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty? >>>>>>>>>
    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading. >>>>>>>>

    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is.

    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron". Good to know!


    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is >>>>>>> going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or >>>>>> selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information. That >>>>>> nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not >>>>>> available at that time to the general public. Insider information gives
    the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is
    generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly. >>>>>> An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example >>>>>> latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock.

    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the >>>>> price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid.

    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt.

    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an
    Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged >>>> information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become** >>>> once that privileged information is made public to the Market.

    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant. >>>>
    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information.

    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the
    market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation
    perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when.

    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited.
    Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec: "oops!")

    -hh

    Foil hat time for you.

    Nope, just staying current on news.

    Case in point, here's a report on the signal of insider trading that
    Alan & I have been referring to:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1911011664956182676>

    And FYI, on the "oh, but both R's & D's do it" deflection attempt,
    there's reports on that unethical behavior too:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1876668203054817706>


    -hh

    So? What are you going to do about it? Nothing? Then STFU.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Sat Apr 12 09:51:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/12/25 09:21, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdnts$b32l$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 21:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtcc55$309is$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty? >>>>>>>>>>>
    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading. >>>>>>>>>>

    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is.

    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron". Good to know!


    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is >>>>>>>>> going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or >>>>>>>> selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information. That >>>>>>>> nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not >>>>>>>> available at that time to the general public. Insider information gives
    the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is >>>>>>>> generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly. >>>>>>>> An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example >>>>>>>> latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock.

    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the >>>>>>> price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid.

    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt.

    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an >>>>>> Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged >>>>>> information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become** >>>>>> once that privileged information is made public to the Market.

    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant. >>>>>>
    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information.

    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the
    market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation >>>> perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when. >>>>
    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited.
    Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec: "oops!")

    -hh

    Foil hat time for you.

    Nope, just staying current on news.

    Case in point, here's a report on the signal of insider trading that
    Alan & I have been referring to:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1911011664956182676>

    And FYI, on the "oh, but both R's & D's do it" deflection attempt,
    there's reports on that unethical behavior too:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1876668203054817706>


    -hh

    So? What are you going to do about it? Nothing? Then STFU.

    On the contrary: I've already taken actions. Just because I've not
    detailed them all to you doesn't mean that they don't exist.

    So what are _you_ going to do about it?

    -hh

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 12 08:05:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <vtdr5f$l5od$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/12/25 09:21, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdnts$b32l$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 21:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtcc55$309is$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading.


    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is.

    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron". Good to know!


    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is
    going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or >>>>>>>> selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information. That >>>>>>>> nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not
    available at that time to the general public. Insider information gives
    the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is >>>>>>>> generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly.
    An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example >>>>>>>> latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock.

    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the >>>>>>> price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid.

    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt.

    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an >>>>>> Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged >>>>>> information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become**
    once that privileged information is made public to the Market.

    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant. >>>>>>
    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information.

    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the >>>>> market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation >>>> perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when. >>>>
    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited.
    Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec: "oops!")

    -hh

    Foil hat time for you.

    Nope, just staying current on news.

    Case in point, here's a report on the signal of insider trading that
    Alan & I have been referring to:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1911011664956182676>

    And FYI, on the "oh, but both R's & D's do it" deflection attempt,
    there's reports on that unethical behavior too:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1876668203054817706>


    -hh

    So? What are you going to do about it? Nothing? Then STFU.

    On the contrary: I've already taken actions. Just because I've not
    detailed them all to you doesn't mean that they don't exist.

    So what are _you_ going to do about it?

    -hh

    What have you done beside stomp your feet?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org on Sat Apr 12 10:08:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:40:30 -0400, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the
    | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a
    | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets," >>>>>>>>>>>> | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that >>>>>>>>>>>> | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's >>>>>>>>>> "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday.
    Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a >>>>>> ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks >>>>>> of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures >>>>>> bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading.


    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is.

    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron". Good to know!


    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is
    going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or
    selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information. That >>nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not >>available at that time to the general public. Insider information gives >>the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is
    generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly.
    An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example
    latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock.

    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the
    price go up. To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly
    stupid.

    I love how he rephrased what you said with a lot more words around it
    and declared what he said is correct but you were wrong.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org on Sat Apr 12 10:14:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 04:22:44 -0400, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 20:29:25 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs

    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War

    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>> Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty? >>>>>>>>>
    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading. >>>>>>>>

    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is.

    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron". Good to know! >>>>>>

    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is >>>>>>> going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or
    selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information. That >>>>>> nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not >>>>>> available at that time to the general public. Insider information gives >>>>>> the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is
    generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly. >>>>>> An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example >>>>>> latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock.

    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the >>>>> price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid.

    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt.

    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an
    Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged
    information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become** >>>> once that privileged information is made public to the Market.

    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant. >>>>
    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information.

    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the
    market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation >>perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when.

    As if you'd know... You've already proven you know nothing about
    assets trading. you do it again below.

    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited.
    Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec: "oops!")

    -hh

    I wonder who these "insiders" are that HH keeps referring to. Given
    this market, that pause could have caused a sell off because everyone
    is being chicken little.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Apr 12 14:17:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/12/25 10:14, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 04:22:44 -0400, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 20:29:25 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty? >>>>>>>>>>
    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading. >>>>>>>>>

    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is.

    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron". Good to know!


    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is >>>>>>>> going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or >>>>>>> selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information. That >>>>>>> nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not >>>>>>> available at that time to the general public. Insider information gives
    the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is
    generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly. >>>>>>> An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example >>>>>>> latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock.

    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the >>>>>> price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid.

    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt.

    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an
    Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged >>>>> information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become** >>>>> once that privileged information is made public to the Market.

    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant. >>>>>
    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information.

    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the
    market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation
    perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when.

    As if you'd know... You've already proven you know nothing about
    assets trading. you do it again below.

    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited.
    Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec: "oops!")

    -hh

    I wonder who these "insiders" are that HH keeps referring to.

    I already provided the links to who ... keep on reading my posts from
    this weekend to see.


    -hh


    Given
    this market, that pause could have caused a sell off because everyone
    is being chicken little.

    Nope, too massive of volume.


    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Sat Apr 12 14:20:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/12/25 10:05, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdr5f$l5od$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/12/25 09:21, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdnts$b32l$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 21:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtcc55$309is$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading.


    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is.

    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron". Good to know!


    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is
    going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or >>>>>>>>>> selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information. That >>>>>>>>>> nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not
    available at that time to the general public. Insider information gives
    the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is >>>>>>>>>> generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly.
    An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example >>>>>>>>>> latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock. >>>>>>>>>>
    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the >>>>>>>>> price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid. >>>>>>>>
    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt. >>>>>>>>
    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an >>>>>>>> Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged >>>>>>>> information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become**
    once that privileged information is made public to the Market. >>>>>>>>
    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant. >>>>>>>>
    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information.

    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the >>>>>>> market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation >>>>>> perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when. >>>>>>
    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited.
    Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec: "oops!")

    -hh

    Foil hat time for you.

    Nope, just staying current on news.

    Case in point, here's a report on the signal of insider trading that
    Alan & I have been referring to:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1911011664956182676>

    And FYI, on the "oh, but both R's & D's do it" deflection attempt,
    there's reports on that unethical behavior too:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1876668203054817706>


    -hh

    So? What are you going to do about it? Nothing? Then STFU.

    On the contrary: I've already taken actions. Just because I've not
    detailed them all to you doesn't mean that they don't exist.

    So what are _you_ going to do about it?

    -hh

    What have you done beside stomp your feet?

    Personally hedged my risk tolerance.
    Provided financial advice to others.
    Bailed out a financially strapped MAGA family member.
    Reminded you & other cultists that you've fucked yourselves.

    So other than to continue to stomp your little feet, what are _you_
    going to do about it, hmmmm?


    -hh

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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to -hh on Sat Apr 12 11:31:41 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/12/2025 11:20 AM, -hh wrote:
    On 4/12/25 10:05, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdr5f$l5od$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/12/25 09:21, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdnts$b32l$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 21:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtcc55$309is$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since
    2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
                 --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up
    yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement:  anyone who made more than $10M in
    futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading.


    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron".  Good to know!


    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is
    going to go up.  It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or >>>>>>>>>>> selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information.  That
    nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not
    available at that time to the general public.  Insider information gives
    the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is >>>>>>>>>>> generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly.
    An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example >>>>>>>>>>> latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the >>>>>>>>>> price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid. >>>>>>>>>
    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt. >>>>>>>>>
    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an >>>>>>>>> Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged >>>>>>>>> information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become**
    once that privileged information is made public to the Market. >>>>>>>>>
    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant.

    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information.

    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the >>>>>>>> market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation >>>>>>> perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when. >>>>>>>
    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited. >>>>>>> Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec:  "oops!")

    -hh

    Foil hat time for you.

    Nope, just staying current on news.

    Case in point, here's a report on the signal of insider trading that >>>>> Alan & I have been referring to:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1911011664956182676>

    And FYI, on the "oh, but both R's & D's do it" deflection attempt,
    there's reports on that unethical behavior too:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1876668203054817706>


    -hh

    So? What are you going to do about it? Nothing? Then STFU.

    On the contrary:  I've already taken actions.  Just because I've not
    detailed them all to you doesn't mean that they don't exist.

    So what are _you_ going to do about it?

    -hh

    What have you done beside stomp your feet?

    Personally hedged my risk tolerance.
    Provided financial advice to others.
    Bailed out a financially strapped MAGA family member.
    Reminded you & other cultists that you've fucked yourselves.

    So other than to continue to stomp your little feet, what are _you_ going to do
    about it, hmmmm?
    Skeeter-Shit will just continue to piss away his time posting meaningless bullshit to Usenet, just as he has done for the past 10 years.

    "so what"
    "who cares"
    "bring it bitch"
    "TINW"

    and other meaningless dribble from his asshole.

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 12 14:55:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <vteatf$12eg8$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/12/25 10:05, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdr5f$l5od$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/12/25 09:21, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdnts$b32l$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 21:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtcc55$309is$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading.


    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is. >>>>>>>>>>
    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron". Good to know!


    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is
    going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or >>>>>>>>>> selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information. That
    nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not
    available at that time to the general public. Insider information gives
    the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is >>>>>>>>>> generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly.
    An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example >>>>>>>>>> latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock. >>>>>>>>>>
    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the
    price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid. >>>>>>>>
    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt. >>>>>>>>
    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an >>>>>>>> Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged >>>>>>>> information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become**
    once that privileged information is made public to the Market. >>>>>>>>
    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant.

    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information.

    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the >>>>>>> market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation >>>>>> perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when. >>>>>>
    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited. >>>>>> Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec: "oops!")

    -hh

    Foil hat time for you.

    Nope, just staying current on news.

    Case in point, here's a report on the signal of insider trading that >>>> Alan & I have been referring to:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1911011664956182676>

    And FYI, on the "oh, but both R's & D's do it" deflection attempt,
    there's reports on that unethical behavior too:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1876668203054817706>


    -hh

    So? What are you going to do about it? Nothing? Then STFU.

    On the contrary: I've already taken actions. Just because I've not
    detailed them all to you doesn't mean that they don't exist.

    So what are _you_ going to do about it?

    -hh

    What have you done beside stomp your feet?

    Personally hedged my risk tolerance.
    Provided financial advice to others.
    Bailed out a financially strapped MAGA family member.
    Reminded you & other cultists that you've fucked yourselves.

    So other than to continue to stomp your little feet, what are _you_
    going to do about it, hmmmm?

    I don't need to do anything. I'm fine.


    -hh

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 12 14:54:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <vteaoc$12eg8$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/12/25 10:14, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 04:22:44 -0400, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 20:29:25 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since 2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead.
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k>

    --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement: anyone who made more than $10M in futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading. >>>>>>>>>

    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is.

    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron". Good to know!


    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is >>>>>>>> going to go up. It's not what makes the price go up.

    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or >>>>>>> selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information. That >>>>>>> nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not
    available at that time to the general public. Insider information gives
    the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is >>>>>>> generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly.
    An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example >>>>>>> latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock.

    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the >>>>>> price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid.

    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt.

    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an >>>>> Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged >>>>> information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become** >>>>> once that privileged information is made public to the Market.

    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant. >>>>>
    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information.

    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the
    market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation >>> perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when.

    As if you'd know... You've already proven you know nothing about
    assets trading. you do it again below.

    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited.
    Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec: "oops!")

    -hh

    I wonder who these "insiders" are that HH keeps referring to.

    I already provided the links to who ... keep on reading my posts from
    this weekend to see.


    -hh


    Given
    this market, that pause could have caused a sell off because everyone
    is being chicken little.

    Nope, too massive of volume.


    -hh

    You guessed. No proof of anything.

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 12 14:56:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <hkyKP.532042$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/12/2025 11:20 AM, -hh wrote:
    On 4/12/25 10:05, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdr5f$l5od$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/12/25 09:21, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdnts$b32l$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 21:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtcc55$309is$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" --
    Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since
    2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-
    is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ������������ --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up
    yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average
    to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday.
    Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who
    bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it
    stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement:� anyone who made more than $10M in
    futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading.


    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron".� Good to know!


    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is
    going to go up.� It's not what makes the price go up. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or >>>>>>>>>>> selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information.� That
    nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not
    available at that time to the general public.� Insider information gives
    the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is >>>>>>>>>>> generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly.
    An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example
    latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the
    price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid. >>>>>>>>>
    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt. >>>>>>>>>
    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an >>>>>>>>> Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged
    information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become**
    once that privileged information is made public to the Market. >>>>>>>>>
    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant.

    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information. >>>>>>>>>
    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the >>>>>>>> market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation
    perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when.

    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited. >>>>>>> Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec:� "oops!")

    -hh

    Foil hat time for you.

    Nope, just staying current on news.

    Case in point, here's a report on the signal of insider trading that >>>>> Alan & I have been referring to:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1911011664956182676>

    And FYI, on the "oh, but both R's & D's do it" deflection attempt, >>>>> there's reports on that unethical behavior too:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1876668203054817706>


    -hh

    So? What are you going to do about it? Nothing? Then STFU.

    On the contrary:� I've already taken actions.� Just because I've not
    detailed them all to you doesn't mean that they don't exist.

    So what are _you_ going to do about it?

    -hh

    What have you done beside stomp your feet?

    Personally hedged my risk tolerance.
    Provided financial advice to others.
    Bailed out a financially strapped MAGA family member.
    Reminded you & other cultists that you've fucked yourselves.

    So other than to continue to stomp your little feet, what are _you_ going to do
    about it, hmmmm?
    Skeeter-Shit will just continue to piss away his time posting meaningless bullshit to Usenet, just as he has done for the past 10 years.

    I been on usenet over 20 years you noob.

    "so what"
    "who cares"
    "bring it bitch"
    "TINW"

    and other meaningless dribble from his asshole.

    HH doesn't like you either. Stop kissing his ass.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Sat Apr 12 21:07:08 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/12/25 16:56, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <hkyKP.532042$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/12/2025 11:20 AM, -hh wrote:
    On 4/12/25 10:05, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdr5f$l5od$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/12/25 09:21, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdnts$b32l$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 21:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtcc55$309is$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" --
    Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since
    2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-
    is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
                 --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up
    yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average
    to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday.
    Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who
    bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it
    stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement:  anyone who made more than $10M in
    futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading.


    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron".  Good to know!


    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is
    going to go up.  It's not what makes the price go up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or >>>>>>>>>>>>> selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information.  That
    nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not
    available at that time to the general public.  Insider information gives
    the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is >>>>>>>>>>>>> generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly.
    An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example
    latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the
    price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>
    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an >>>>>>>>>>> Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged
    information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become**
    once that privileged information is made public to the Market. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant.

    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information. >>>>>>>>>>>
    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the >>>>>>>>>> market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation
    perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when.

    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited. >>>>>>>>> Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec:  "oops!") >>>>>>>>>
    -hh

    Foil hat time for you.

    Nope, just staying current on news.

    Case in point, here's a report on the signal of insider trading that >>>>>>> Alan & I have been referring to:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1911011664956182676>

    And FYI, on the "oh, but both R's & D's do it" deflection attempt, >>>>>>> there's reports on that unethical behavior too:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1876668203054817706>


    -hh

    So? What are you going to do about it? Nothing? Then STFU.

    On the contrary:  I've already taken actions.  Just because I've not >>>>> detailed them all to you doesn't mean that they don't exist.

    So what are _you_ going to do about it?

    -hh

    What have you done beside stomp your feet?

    Personally hedged my risk tolerance.
    Provided financial advice to others.
    Bailed out a financially strapped MAGA family member.
    Reminded you & other cultists that you've fucked yourselves.

    So other than to continue to stomp your little feet, what are _you_ going to do
    about it, hmmmm?

    Skeeter-Shit will just continue to piss away his time posting meaningless
    bullshit to Usenet, just as he has done for the past 10 years.

    I been on usenet over 20 years you noob.

    Oh, look: a whining newbie! You'd think that he would have finally
    learned to not do that after (allegedly) 20 years.

    "so what"
    "who cares"
    "bring it bitch"
    "TINW"

    and other meaningless dribble from his asshole.

    HH doesn't like you either. Stop kissing his ass.

    Meh, "whatever you say", Walt.


    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 13 14:57:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy. It's What
    | Republicans Do.

    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy

    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted

    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario

    |
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term
    |
    | Probability of a recession leapt while growth outlook
    | slumped, survey of economists finds
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/us-economic-outlook-trump-b4e3469a>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 13 14:48:50 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund, tells
    | Meet the Press that Trump's economic agenda could lead to a
    | "breaking down of the monetary order" as the president
    | ramps up tariffs on China.
    | ... <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire-investor-ray-dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than-recession-full-interview-237257285807>

    --bks

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Apr 13 11:15:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:48:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund, tells
    | Meet the Press that Trump's economic agenda could lead to a
    | "breaking down of the monetary order" as the president
    | ramps up tariffs on China.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire-investor-ray-dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than-recession-full-interview-237257285807>

    --bks

    NBC News. Some of the people who for four years, dishonestly assured
    everyone that Biden was in total command of his faculties and the
    Presidency.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sun Apr 13 09:25:52 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 13/4/25 8:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:48:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund, tells
    | Meet the Press that Trump's economic agenda could lead to a
    | "breaking down of the monetary order" as the president
    | ramps up tariffs on China.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire-investor-ray-dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than-recession-full-interview-237257285807>

    --bks

    NBC News. Some of the people who for four years, dishonestly assured
    everyone that Biden was in total command of his faculties and the
    Presidency.


    What is this 'Biden' and what does it have to do idjt's economic
    agenda?

    How is your Tesla stock doing?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 13 12:39:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 09:25:52 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 13/4/25 8:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:48:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund, tells
    | Meet the Press that Trump's economic agenda could lead to a
    | "breaking down of the monetary order" as the president
    | ramps up tariffs on China.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire-investor-ray-dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than-recession-full-interview-237257285807>

    --bks

    NBC News. Some of the people who for four years, dishonestly assured
    everyone that Biden was in total command of his faculties and the
    Presidency.


    What is this 'Biden' and what does it have to do idjt's economic
    agenda?

    I understand how difficult it is for you to comprehend what you read,
    but that was a reference questioning the honesty of a news
    organization with a verified history of telling lies about the former
    POTUS.

    How is your Tesla stock doing?

    I don't have any, but if I did, I wouldn't be concerned about it. My
    investment plans have long term goals.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sun Apr 13 13:55:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/13/25 12:39, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 09:25:52 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 13/4/25 8:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:48:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund, tells
    | Meet the Press that Trump's economic agenda could lead to a
    | "breaking down of the monetary order" as the president
    | ramps up tariffs on China.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire-investor-ray-dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than-recession-full-interview-237257285807>

    --bks

    NBC News. Some of the people who for four years, dishonestly assured
    everyone that Biden was in total command of his faculties and the
    Presidency.


    What is this 'Biden' and what does it have to do idjt's economic
    agenda?

    I understand how difficult it is for you to comprehend what you read,
    but that was a reference questioning the honesty of a news
    organization with a verified history of telling lies about the former
    POTUS.

    How is your Tesla stock doing?

    I don't have any, but if I did, I wouldn't be concerned about it. My investment plans have long term goals.

    Oh, so you have absolutely no SP500 index funds?



    -hh

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sun Apr 13 18:14:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vtgjco$rfn$2 @reader1.panix.com:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy. It's What
    | Republicans Do.

    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy

    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted

    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario

    |
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term
    |
    | Probability of a recession leapt while growth outlook
    | slumped, survey of economists finds
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/us-economic-outlook-trump-b4e3469a>

    --bks



    So much winning!



    Dow when Trump took office: 43,487

    Dow now: 40,212

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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Sun Apr 13 11:13:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/12/2025 1:56 PM, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <hkyKP.532042$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/12/2025 11:20 AM, -hh wrote:
    On 4/12/25 10:05, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdr5f$l5od$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/12/25 09:21, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdnts$b32l$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 21:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtcc55$309is$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" --
    Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since
    2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-
    is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
                 --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up
    yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average
    to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday.
    Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who
    bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it
    stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading.

    How about a simple agreement:  anyone who made more than $10M in
    futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading.


    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron".  Good to know!


    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is
    going to go up.  It's not what makes the price go up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or >>>>>>>>>>>>> selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information.  That
    nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not
    available at that time to the general public.  Insider information gives
    the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is >>>>>>>>>>>>> generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly.
    An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example
    latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the
    price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>
    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an >>>>>>>>>>> Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged
    information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become**
    once that privileged information is made public to the Market. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant.

    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information. >>>>>>>>>>>
    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the >>>>>>>>>> market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation
    perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when.

    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited. >>>>>>>>> Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec:  "oops!") >>>>>>>>>
    -hh

    Foil hat time for you.

    Nope, just staying current on news.

    Case in point, here's a report on the signal of insider trading that >>>>>>> Alan & I have been referring to:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1911011664956182676>

    And FYI, on the "oh, but both R's & D's do it" deflection attempt, >>>>>>> there's reports on that unethical behavior too:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1876668203054817706>


    -hh

    So? What are you going to do about it? Nothing? Then STFU.

    On the contrary:  I've already taken actions.  Just because I've not >>>>> detailed them all to you doesn't mean that they don't exist.

    So what are _you_ going to do about it?

    -hh

    What have you done beside stomp your feet?

    Personally hedged my risk tolerance.
    Provided financial advice to others.
    Bailed out a financially strapped MAGA family member.
    Reminded you & other cultists that you've fucked yourselves.

    So other than to continue to stomp your little feet, what are _you_ going to do
    about it, hmmmm?
    Skeeter-Shit will just continue to piss away his time posting meaningless
    bullshit to Usenet, just as he has done for the past 10 years.

    I been [sic] on usenet over 20 years you noob.

    "I been" — you also say "I seen," don't you?

    So, pissing away your useless time on Usenet for 20 years. That's not a good thing to admit.


    "so what"
    "who cares"
    "bring it bitch"
    "TINW"

    and other meaningless dribble from his asshole.

    HH doesn't like you either.

    Prove it.

    --
    Another content-free post from Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sun Apr 13 18:16:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:48:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund, tells
    | Meet the Press that Trump's economic agenda could lead to a
    | "breaking down of the monetary order" as the president
    | ramps up tariffs on China.
    | ... >><https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire-investor-ray- >>dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than-recession-full-interview-23 >>7257285807>

    --bks

    NBC News. Some of the people who for four years, dishonestly assured
    everyone that Biden


    But Biden!

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Apr 13 14:43:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 13:55:48 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/13/25 12:39, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 09:25:52 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 13/4/25 8:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:48:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund, tells
    | Meet the Press that Trump's economic agenda could lead to a
    | "breaking down of the monetary order" as the president
    | ramps up tariffs on China.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire-investor-ray-dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than-recession-full-interview-237257285807>

    --bks

    NBC News. Some of the people who for four years, dishonestly assured
    everyone that Biden was in total command of his faculties and the
    Presidency.


    What is this 'Biden' and what does it have to do idjt's economic
    agenda?

    I understand how difficult it is for you to comprehend what you read,
    but that was a reference questioning the honesty of a news
    organization with a verified history of telling lies about the former
    POTUS.

    How is your Tesla stock doing?

    I don't have any, but if I did, I wouldn't be concerned about it. My
    investment plans have long term goals.

    Oh, so you have absolutely no SP500 index funds?



    -hh

    Huh? Where did that nonsense come from? Do you even know what the
    SP500 is?

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  • From Dave Wainwright@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sun Apr 13 11:58:53 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/13/2025 11:43 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 13:55:48 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/13/25 12:39, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 09:25:52 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 13/4/25 8:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:48:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund, tells
    | Meet the Press that Trump's economic agenda could lead to a
    | "breaking down of the monetary order" as the president
    | ramps up tariffs on China.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire-investor-ray-dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than-recession-full-interview-237257285807>

    --bks

    NBC News. Some of the people who for four years, dishonestly assured >>>>> everyone that Biden was in total command of his faculties and the
    Presidency.


    What is this 'Biden' and what does it have to do idjt's economic
    agenda?

    I understand how difficult it is for you to comprehend what you read,
    but that was a reference questioning the honesty of a news
    organization with a verified history of telling lies about the former
    POTUS.

    How is your Tesla stock doing?

    I don't have any, but if I did, I wouldn't be concerned about it. My
    investment plans have long term goals.

    Oh, so you have absolutely no SP500 index funds?



    -hh

    Huh? Where did that nonsense come from? Do you even know what the
    SP500 is?
    Do you have any fucking clue what an SP500 *index fund* is, Dummy? Evidently not.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 13 15:44:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 11:58:53 -0700, Dave Wainwright <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/13/2025 11:43 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 13:55:48 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/13/25 12:39, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 09:25:52 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 13/4/25 8:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:48:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund, tells
    | Meet the Press that Trump's economic agenda could lead to a
    | "breaking down of the monetary order" as the president
    | ramps up tariffs on China.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire-investor-ray-dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than-recession-full-interview-237257285807>

    --bks

    NBC News. Some of the people who for four years, dishonestly assured >>>>>> everyone that Biden was in total command of his faculties and the
    Presidency.


    What is this 'Biden' and what does it have to do idjt's economic
    agenda?

    I understand how difficult it is for you to comprehend what you read,
    but that was a reference questioning the honesty of a news
    organization with a verified history of telling lies about the former
    POTUS.

    How is your Tesla stock doing?

    I don't have any, but if I did, I wouldn't be concerned about it. My
    investment plans have long term goals.

    Oh, so you have absolutely no SP500 index funds?



    -hh

    Huh? Where did that nonsense come from? Do you even know what the
    SP500 is?
    Do you have any fucking clue what an SP500 *index fund* is, Dummy? Evidently not.


    <LOL> Obviously you do not.

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 13 13:41:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <79TKP.1673575$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/12/2025 1:56 PM, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <hkyKP.532042$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/12/2025 11:20 AM, -hh wrote:
    On 4/12/25 10:05, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdr5f$l5od$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/12/25 09:21, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtdnts$b32l$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 21:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtcc55$309is$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/11/25 17:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:55:27 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 14:40, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:59:57 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 10:22, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:09:28 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/11/25 07:59, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vtasge$1cq0u$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 19:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt9kje$3854$[email protected]>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says...

    On 4/10/25 15:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vt953l$3k013$[email protected]>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] says... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 4/10/25 11:41, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:50:53 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" --
    Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Dow Tumbles 2,000 Points, Bonds Rally After China
    | Retaliates Against Trump Tariffs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    | Hedge funds hit with steepest margin calls since
    2020 Covid
    | crisis

    | CEOs Break Silence on Trump Trade War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    |
    | Dollar Confidence Crisis Is Here, Deutsche Bank Warns
    |
    | The broad selloff in U.S. stocks and bonds, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | continuing decline in the dollar, represents a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets,"
    | analysts at Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. They warned that
    | "unchartered territory" lies ahead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tariffs-trade-war-04-09-25/card/dollar-confidence-crisis-
    is-here-deutsche-bank-warns-OS3izqVU0PPvpBGqOC2k> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ������������ --bks

    This didn't age well since the market soared 2000 points up
    yesterday

    Laughter.

    Because of insider trading.

    Prove it.

    Meantime, the Market has figured out that yesterday's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afternoon's
    "surprise" was highly overrated.

    At this hour:
    DJIA -967
    SP500 -171
    NASDAQ: -675

    A lot of volatility, as expected, so better to time-average
    to see the
    macro trend:

    DJIA -6.7% YTD
    SP500 -10.3% YTD
    NASDAQ: -15.1% YTD


    -hh

    Who cares?

    Every single poster who was celebrating the "win" yesterday.
    Dis you?

    -hh

    I know people made money.

    Apparently, not you.

    Because what's now being asked of the SEC is to investigate who
    bought a
    ton of futures <30 minutes before the Trump announcement, as it
    stinks
    of high heaven of illegal insider trading. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    How about a simple agreement:� anyone who made more than $10M in
    futures
    bought on the afternoon of April 9th should get the death penalty?

    Why? Smart people bother you?


    Its not from being smart, but from illegally using insider trading.


    -hh

    Leftist morons don't even know what insider trading is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh, so then you're confessing to being a "Leftist moron".� Good to know!


    Here's a clue...

    Insider trading is when somebody buys because they know the price is
    going to go up.� It's not what makes the price go up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Incorrect.

    Insider trading is the term for the illegal practice of buying or
    selling a company's securities based on nonpublic information.� That
    nonpublic information is known to an "insider" and is material and not
    available at that time to the general public.� Insider information gives
    the insider an unfair advantage over other investors, and it is >>>>>>>>>>>>> generally illegal for them to act upon it, both directly & indirectly.
    An example of the former is a buy/sell of XYZ stock and an example
    latter is to call & tell your mom to go buy/sell XYZ stock. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Martha Stewart went to jail for this crime.


    -hh


    As I said, and you cannot refute, insider trading not what makes the
    price go up.

    You've ignored how I never disputed that part.

    To call that a result of insider trading is incredibly stupid. >>>>>>>>>>>
    No, what's incredibly stupid is your misrepresentation attempt. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Because insider trading isn't actions which change the price of an
    Equity, but is the act of transacting based on possessing privileged
    information on what an Equity's future valuation is **going to become**
    once that privileged information is made public to the Market. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Thus, which direction a future valuation is going to be is irrelevant.

    Because it is the act of misuse of privileged information. >>>>>>>>>>>
    The 'textbook' classical examples are:
    * to sell before bad news becomes public;
    * to buy before good news becomes public.

    -hh

    So you agree that the morons claiming that the big increases in the
    market prices could not be because of insider trading..

    4/9's big increases in prices were from deliberate market manipulation
    perpetrated by Trump, & whoever was guiding him on what to say & when.

    Insiders trading on prior knowledge of Trump's "90 day" profited. >>>>>>>>> Trump named a few of them that same day (press sec:� "oops!") >>>>>>>>>
    -hh

    Foil hat time for you.

    Nope, just staying current on news.

    Case in point, here's a report on the signal of insider trading that >>>>>>> Alan & I have been referring to:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1911011664956182676>

    And FYI, on the "oh, but both R's & D's do it" deflection attempt, >>>>>>> there's reports on that unethical behavior too:

    <https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1876668203054817706>


    -hh

    So? What are you going to do about it? Nothing? Then STFU.

    On the contrary:� I've already taken actions.� Just because I've not >>>>> detailed them all to you doesn't mean that they don't exist.

    So what are _you_ going to do about it?

    -hh

    What have you done beside stomp your feet?

    Personally hedged my risk tolerance.
    Provided financial advice to others.
    Bailed out a financially strapped MAGA family member.
    Reminded you & other cultists that you've fucked yourselves.

    So other than to continue to stomp your little feet, what are _you_ going to do
    about it, hmmmm?
    Skeeter-Shit will just continue to piss away his time posting meaningless >> bullshit to Usenet, just as he has done for the past 10 years.

    I been [sic] on usenet over 20 years you noob.

    "I been" ? you also say "I seen," don't you?

    So, pissing away your useless time on Usenet for 20 years. That's not a good thing to admit.

    Stomping kooks like you is my job.


    "so what"
    "who cares"
    "bring it bitch"
    "TINW"

    and other meaningless dribble from his asshole.

    HH doesn't like you either.

    Prove it.

    He said so.

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  • From Dave Wainwright@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sun Apr 13 14:05:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/13/2025 12:44 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 11:58:53 -0700, Dave Wainwright <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/13/2025 11:43 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 13:55:48 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/13/25 12:39, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 09:25:52 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote:

    On 13/4/25 8:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:48:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund, tells
    | Meet the Press that Trump's economic agenda could lead to a
    | "breaking down of the monetary order" as the president
    | ramps up tariffs on China.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire-investor-ray-dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than-recession-full-interview-237257285807>

    --bks

    NBC News. Some of the people who for four years, dishonestly assured >>>>>>> everyone that Biden was in total command of his faculties and the >>>>>>> Presidency.


    What is this 'Biden' and what does it have to do idjt's economic
    agenda?

    I understand how difficult it is for you to comprehend what you read, >>>>> but that was a reference questioning the honesty of a news
    organization with a verified history of telling lies about the former >>>>> POTUS.

    How is your Tesla stock doing?

    I don't have any, but if I did, I wouldn't be concerned about it. My >>>>> investment plans have long term goals.

    Oh, so you have absolutely no SP500 index funds?



    -hh

    Huh? Where did that nonsense come from? Do you even know what the
    SP500 is?
    Do you have any fucking clue what an SP500 *index fund* is, Dummy? Evidently not.


    <LOL> Obviously

    Yes, obviously. An SP500 *index fund* is not the same thing as "the" SP500. You didn't know that...obviously, Dummy.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 13 17:14:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:05:23 -0700, Dave Wainwright <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/13/2025 12:44 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 11:58:53 -0700, Dave Wainwright <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/13/2025 11:43 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 13:55:48 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/13/25 12:39, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 09:25:52 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 13/4/25 8:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:48:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund, tells >>>>>>>>> | Meet the Press that Trump's economic agenda could lead to a >>>>>>>>> | "breaking down of the monetary order" as the president
    | ramps up tariffs on China.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire-investor-ray-dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than-recession-full-interview-237257285807>

    --bks

    NBC News. Some of the people who for four years, dishonestly assured >>>>>>>> everyone that Biden was in total command of his faculties and the >>>>>>>> Presidency.


    What is this 'Biden' and what does it have to do idjt's economic >>>>>>> agenda?

    I understand how difficult it is for you to comprehend what you read, >>>>>> but that was a reference questioning the honesty of a news
    organization with a verified history of telling lies about the former >>>>>> POTUS.

    How is your Tesla stock doing?

    I don't have any, but if I did, I wouldn't be concerned about it. My >>>>>> investment plans have long term goals.

    Oh, so you have absolutely no SP500 index funds?



    -hh

    Huh? Where did that nonsense come from? Do you even know what the
    SP500 is?
    Do you have any fucking clue what an SP500 *index fund* is, Dummy? Evidently not.


    <LOL> Obviously

    Yes, obviously. An SP500 *index fund* is not the same thing as "the" SP500. You
    didn't know that...obviously, Dummy.

    <LOL> A claim without documentation.... Typical leftist....

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Dave Wainwright on Sun Apr 13 17:58:21 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/13/25 17:05, Dave Wainwright wrote:
    On 4/13/2025 12:44 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 11:58:53 -0700, Dave Wainwright <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/13/2025 11:43 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 13:55:48 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/13/25 12:39, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 09:25:52 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 13/4/25 8:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:48:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund, tells >>>>>>>>> | Meet the Press that Trump's economic agenda could lead to a >>>>>>>>> | "breaking down of the monetary order" as the president
    | ramps up tariffs on China.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire-
    investor-ray-dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than-
    recession-full-interview-237257285807>

           --bks

    NBC News. Some of the people who for four years, dishonestly
    assured
    everyone that Biden was in total command of his faculties and the >>>>>>>> Presidency.


    What is this 'Biden' and what does it have to do idjt's economic >>>>>>> agenda?

    I understand how difficult it is for you to comprehend what you read, >>>>>> but that was a reference questioning the honesty of a news
    organization with a verified history of telling lies about the former >>>>>> POTUS.

    How is your Tesla stock doing?

    I don't have any, but if I did, I wouldn't be concerned about it. My >>>>>> investment plans have long term goals.

    Oh, so you have absolutely no SP500 index funds?



    -hh

    Huh? Where did that nonsense come from? Do you even know what the
    SP500 is?
    Do you have any fucking clue what an SP500 *index fund* is, Dummy?
    Evidently not.


    <LOL> Obviously

    Yes, obviously. An SP500 *index fund* is not the same thing as "the"
    SP500. You didn't know that...obviously, Dummy.

    BLM might actually know ... but if he does, that explains why he's
    scrambling for any diversion he can latch on to, in the hopes that no
    one has noticed that he's evading answering my question on if he owns
    any SP500 index funds.

    BLM: do you own any SP500 index funds, or don't you?

    Or are you going to claim that you own NASDAQ index funds instead? /s


    -hh





    -hh

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  • From Dave Wainwright@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sun Apr 13 15:37:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/13/2025 2:14 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:05:23 -0700, Dave Wainwright <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/13/2025 12:44 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 11:58:53 -0700, Dave Wainwright <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/13/2025 11:43 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 13:55:48 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/13/25 12:39, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 09:25:52 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On 13/4/25 8:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:48:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund, tells >>>>>>>>>> | Meet the Press that Trump's economic agenda could lead to a >>>>>>>>>> | "breaking down of the monetary order" as the president
    | ramps up tariffs on China.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire-investor-ray-dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than-recession-full-interview-237257285807>

    --bks

    NBC News. Some of the people who for four years, dishonestly assured >>>>>>>>> everyone that Biden was in total command of his faculties and the >>>>>>>>> Presidency.


    What is this 'Biden' and what does it have to do idjt's economic >>>>>>>> agenda?

    I understand how difficult it is for you to comprehend what you read, >>>>>>> but that was a reference questioning the honesty of a news
    organization with a verified history of telling lies about the former >>>>>>> POTUS.

    How is your Tesla stock doing?

    I don't have any, but if I did, I wouldn't be concerned about it. My >>>>>>> investment plans have long term goals.

    Oh, so you have absolutely no SP500 index funds?



    -hh

    Huh? Where did that nonsense come from? Do you even know what the
    SP500 is?
    Do you have any fucking clue what an SP500 *index fund* is, Dummy? Evidently not.


    <LOL> Obviously

    Yes, obviously. An SP500 *index fund* is not the same thing as "the" SP500. You
    didn't know that...obviously, Dummy.

    <LOL> A claim without documentation

    You documented it for me. Thanks!

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  • From Dave Wainwright@21:1/5 to -hh on Sun Apr 13 15:36:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/13/2025 2:58 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 4/13/25 17:05, Dave Wainwright wrote:
    On 4/13/2025 12:44 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 11:58:53 -0700, Dave Wainwright <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/13/2025 11:43 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 13:55:48 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/13/25 12:39, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 09:25:52 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On 13/4/25 8:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:48:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund, tells >>>>>>>>>> | Meet the Press that Trump's economic agenda could lead to a >>>>>>>>>> | "breaking down of the monetary order" as the president
    | ramps up tariffs on China.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire- investor- >>>>>>>>>> ray-dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than- recession-full- >>>>>>>>>> interview-237257285807>

           --bks

    NBC News. Some of the people who for four years, dishonestly assured >>>>>>>>> everyone that Biden was in total command of his faculties and the >>>>>>>>> Presidency.


    What is this 'Biden' and what does it have to do idjt's economic >>>>>>>> agenda?

    I understand how difficult it is for you to comprehend what you read, >>>>>>> but that was a reference questioning the honesty of a news
    organization with a verified history of telling lies about the former >>>>>>> POTUS.

    How is your Tesla stock doing?

    I don't have any, but if I did, I wouldn't be concerned about it. My >>>>>>> investment plans have long term goals.

    Oh, so you have absolutely no SP500 index funds?



    -hh

    Huh? Where did that nonsense come from? Do you even know what the
    SP500 is?
    Do you have any fucking clue what an SP500 *index fund* is, Dummy? Evidently
    not.


    <LOL> Obviously

    Yes, obviously. An SP500 *index fund* is not the same thing as "the" SP500. >> You didn't know that...obviously, Dummy.

    BLM might actually know ... but if he does, that explains why he's scrambling for any diversion he can latch on to, in the hopes that no one has noticed that
    he's evading answering my question on if he owns any SP500 index funds.

    BLM:  do you own any SP500 index funds, or don't you?

    Or are you going to claim that you own NASDAQ index funds instead?  /s

    He is not a sophisticated investor by any stretch.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sun Apr 13 20:00:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/31/25 10:42, Skeeter wrote:
    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote...
    ...
    Investors depend on stability and predictability
    and all Trump is creating is chaos and doubt.

    Only in libtards heads.

    My, my ... that comment has not aged well at all.


    -hh

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 13 18:07:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <vthj64$3vosm$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 3/31/25 10:42, Skeeter wrote:
    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote...
    ...
    Investors depend on stability and predictability
    and all Trump is creating is chaos and doubt.

    Only in libtards heads.

    My, my ... that comment has not aged well at all.


    -hh

    Just stating fact.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 14 02:52:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 15:36:40 -0700, Dave Wainwright <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/13/2025 2:58 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 4/13/25 17:05, Dave Wainwright wrote:
    On 4/13/2025 12:44 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 11:58:53 -0700, Dave Wainwright <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/13/2025 11:43 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 13:55:48 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4/13/25 12:39, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 09:25:52 -0700, Siri Cruz <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 13/4/25 8:15, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:48:50 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Ray Dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund, tells >>>>>>>>>>> | Meet the Press that Trump's economic agenda could lead to a >>>>>>>>>>> | "breaking down of the monetary order" as the president >>>>>>>>>>> | ramps up tariffs on China.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire- investor-
    ray-dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than- recession-full- >>>>>>>>>>> interview-237257285807>

    ������ --bks

    NBC News. Some of the people who for four years, dishonestly assured >>>>>>>>>> everyone that Biden was in total command of his faculties and the >>>>>>>>>> Presidency.


    What is this 'Biden' and what does it have to do idjt's economic >>>>>>>>> agenda?

    I understand how difficult it is for you to comprehend what you read, >>>>>>>> but that was a reference questioning the honesty of a news
    organization with a verified history of telling lies about the former >>>>>>>> POTUS.

    How is your Tesla stock doing?

    I don't have any, but if I did, I wouldn't be concerned about it. My >>>>>>>> investment plans have long term goals.

    Oh, so you have absolutely no SP500 index funds?



    -hh

    Huh? Where did that nonsense come from? Do you even know what the
    SP500 is?
    Do you have any fucking clue what an SP500 *index fund* is, Dummy? Evidently
    not.


    <LOL> Obviously

    Yes, obviously. An SP500 *index fund* is not the same thing as "the" SP500. >>> You didn't know that...obviously, Dummy.

    BLM might actually know ... but if he does, that explains why he's scrambling
    for any diversion he can latch on to, in the hopes that no one has noticed that
    he's evading answering my question on if he owns any SP500 index funds.

    BLM:� do you own any SP500 index funds, or don't you?

    Or are you going to claim that you own NASDAQ index funds instead?� /s

    He is not a sophisticated investor by any stretch.


    Says Jonny Ball, whose only investment was in dishonesty.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 14 13:10:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | A flight from the dollar could wreck America's finances
    |
    | The currency's dominance enables very high debts and
    | deficits, meaning a plunge might spell disaster
    | ... <https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2025/04/13/a-flight-from-the-dollar-could-wreck-americas-finances>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 14 22:41:32 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | A flight from the dollar could wreck America's finances

    |
    | The Dollar Keeps Falling as Its 'Safe Haven' Status Is
    | Questioned
    |
    | President Trump's tariff blitz has rattled investors and
    | shaken their faith in one of the most reliable and
    | ubiquitous assets in the world economy.
    | ... <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/business/us-dollar-trump-tariffs.html>

    --bks

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Mon Apr 14 20:21:39 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/14/25 18:41, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | A flight from the dollar could wreck America's finances

    |
    | The Dollar Keeps Falling as Its 'Safe Haven' Status Is
    | Questioned
    |
    | President Trump's tariff blitz has rattled investors and
    | shaken their faith in one of the most reliable and
    | ubiquitous assets in the world economy.
    | ... <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/business/us-dollar-trump-tariffs.html>

    --bks


    There's already been a 9.5% shift in the exchange rate vs the Euro YTD,
    with the EU being stronger than the USD. That magnitude of a change in
    just three months is pretty damn steep.

    It is no wonder then that despite their huge debt crisis, Greece is able
    today to sell their 10 year bonds for a full percentage point lower than
    US 10 year Treasuries ... 3.5% vs 4.5%


    -hh

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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to -hh on Mon Apr 14 17:51:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/14/2025 5:21 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 4/14/25 18:41, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | A flight from the dollar could wreck America's finances

      |
      | The Dollar Keeps Falling as Its 'Safe Haven' Status Is
      | Questioned
      |
      | President Trump's tariff blitz has rattled investors and
      | shaken their faith in one of the most reliable and
      | ubiquitous assets in the world economy.
      | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/business/us-dollar-trump-tariffs.html> >>
         --bks


    There's already been a 9.5% shift in the exchange rate vs the Euro YTD, with the
    EU being stronger than the USD. That magnitude of a change in just three months
    is pretty damn steep.

    There are offsetting forces at work here. Some U.S. treasury holders dumping their bonds causes interest rates to rise. But that makes others more willing to
    buy the bonds, because they are now cheaper and paying higher interest. If the euro has strengthened relative to the dollar, that also makes the bonds cheaper for those who have large amounts of euro cash.

    The dollar falling should help U.S. exports, and ordinarily it would, but now that other countries have levied high retaliatory tariffs on U.S. stuff, it probably won't help very much.

    And of course, *everyone* is worse off with less trade. Trump doesn't understand
    a thing about trade.


    It is no wonder then that despite their huge debt crisis, Greece is able today
    to sell their 10 year bonds for a full percentage point lower than US 10 year Treasuries ... 3.5% vs 4.5%


    -hh

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Apr 15 07:04:45 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 13:10:14 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | A flight from the dollar could wreck America's finances
    |
    | The currency's dominance enables very high debts and
    | deficits, meaning a plunge might spell disaster
    | ...
    <https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2025/04/13/a-flight-from-the-dollar-could-wreck-americas-finances>

    --bks

    Oh no! The sky is falling.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Apr 15 07:05:26 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 22:41:32 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | A flight from the dollar could wreck America's finances

    |
    | The Dollar Keeps Falling as Its 'Safe Haven' Status Is
    | Questioned
    |
    | President Trump's tariff blitz has rattled investors and
    | shaken their faith in one of the most reliable and
    | ubiquitous assets in the world economy.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/business/us-dollar-trump-tariffs.html>

    --bks

    Paywalled garbage.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Apr 15 04:18:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 15/4/25 4:04, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 13:10:14 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | A flight from the dollar could wreck America's finances
    |
    | The currency's dominance enables very high debts and
    | deficits, meaning a plunge might spell disaster
    | ...
    <https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2025/04/13/a-flight-from-the-dollar-could-wreck-americas-finances>

    --bks

    Oh no! The sky is falling.


    When you step off a roof, you do not die while you are falling.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 15 17:24:21 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy. It's What
    | Republicans Do.

    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy

    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted

    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario

    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term

    |
    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away
    | ... <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-15/us-economy-is-set-to-lose-billions-as-foreign-tourists-stay-away>

    --bks

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Thu Apr 17 18:14:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Lou Bricano <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/14/2025 5:21 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 4/14/25 18:41, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | A flight from the dollar could wreck America's finances

      |
      | The Dollar Keeps Falling as Its 'Safe Haven' Status Is
      | Questioned
      |
      | President Trump's tariff blitz has rattled investors and
      | shaken their faith in one of the most reliable and
      | ubiquitous assets in the world economy.
      | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/business/us-dollar-trump-tariffs.html> >>>
         --bks


    There's already been a 9.5% shift in the exchange rate vs the Euro YTD, with the
    EU being stronger than the USD. That magnitude of a change in just three months
    is pretty damn steep.

    There are offsetting forces at work here. Some U.S. treasury holders dumping their bonds causes interest rates to rise. But that makes others more willing to
    buy the bonds, because they are now cheaper and paying higher interest. If the
    euro has strengthened relative to the dollar, that also makes the bonds cheaper
    for those who have large amounts of euro cash.

    True, once things have become stable. We’re nowhere near that point, so investors are looking at a falling knife.


    The dollar falling should help U.S. exports, and ordinarily it would, but now that other countries have levied high retaliatory tariffs on U.S. stuff, it probably won't help very much.

    And of course, *everyone* is worse off with less trade. Trump doesn't understand
    a thing about trade.

    Yup. US exports have plummeted by -30%:

    <https://x.com/burrytracker/status/1912854534025621569?s=61&t=BwOr14HsTzyD0gnJjDCtLA>

    Going to have to decide if to shift from USD to have (much) more gold.

    -hh

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 20 12:46:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy. It's What
    | Republicans Do.

    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy

    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted

    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario

    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term

    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away

    |
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | ... <https://www.barrons.com/news/analysts-warn-us-could-be-handing-chip-market-to-china-6d6b29e2?refsec=topics_afp-news>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 20 12:41:52 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Boeing begins flying back planes refused by Chinese airlines
    |
    | Beijing orders carriers to stop taking deliveries of US
    | jets as part of its trade war strategy
    | ... <https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/3006447/boeing-begins-flying-back-planes-refused-by-chinese-airlines>

    --bks

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sun Apr 20 10:28:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | ... <https://www.barrons.com/news/analysts-warn-us-could-be-handing-chip-market-to-china-6d6b29e2?refsec=topics_afp-news>

    It sounds like Trump is trying hard to tank America.

    --
    Moneyliness is next to Godliness.
    -- Andries van Dam

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 20 22:01:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | This Midwestern city has long been a federal hub. The pain
    | from DOGE's cuts is everywhere
    | ... <https://apnews.com/article/doge-federal-cuts-job-musk-trump-kansas-city-06023cbc68c82fdaa021ced1069fd81c>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Mon Apr 21 07:00:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 12:46:38 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy. It's What
    | Republicans Do.

    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy

    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted

    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario

    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term

    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away

    |
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | ...
    <https://www.barrons.com/news/analysts-warn-us-could-be-handing-chip-market-to-china-6d6b29e2?refsec=topics_afp-news>

    --bks

    They already stole all our technology and sell it cheaper. Horse left
    that barn.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Mon Apr 21 06:59:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 12:41:52 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Boeing begins flying back planes refused by Chinese airlines
    |
    | Beijing orders carriers to stop taking deliveries of US
    | jets as part of its trade war strategy
    | ...
    <https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/3006447/boeing-begins-flying-back-planes-refused-by-chinese-airlines>

    --bks

    How long do you think China will be able to keep flying?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Mon Apr 21 07:01:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 22:01:19 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | This Midwestern city has long been a federal hub. The pain
    | from DOGE's cuts is everywhere
    | ...
    <https://apnews.com/article/doge-federal-cuts-job-musk-trump-kansas-city-06023cbc68c82fdaa021ced1069fd81c>

    --bks

    I thought you libs blocked all of that.

    Laughter.

    And to think you libs think the feds should give people jobs that
    apparently not needed after all.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 22 03:10:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.

    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy

    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted

    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario

    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term

    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away

    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China

    |
    | Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932 as Investors Send 'No
    | Confidence' Signal
    | ... <https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/dow-jones-stocks-worst-april-1932-74fe82ac>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Apr 22 06:56:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 06:59:51 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 12:41:52 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Boeing begins flying back planes refused by Chinese airlines
    |
    | Beijing orders carriers to stop taking deliveries of US
    | jets as part of its trade war strategy
    | ... >><https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/3006447/boeing-begins-flying-back-planes-refused-by-chinese-airlines>

    --bks

    How long do you think China will be able to keep flying?

    And Bradley bot has run away.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Apr 22 06:57:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 07:00:40 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 12:46:38 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>
    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy. It's What
    | Republicans Do.

    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy

    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted

    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario

    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term

    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away

    |
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | ... >><https://www.barrons.com/news/analysts-warn-us-could-be-handing-chip-market-to-china-6d6b29e2?refsec=topics_afp-news>

    --bks

    They already stole all our technology and sell it cheaper. Horse left
    that barn.

    And Bradley bot has no answer only "sources".

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Apr 22 06:55:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 03:10:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.

    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy

    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted

    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario

    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term

    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away

    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China

    |
    | Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932 as Investors Send 'No
    | Confidence' Signal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/dow-jones-stocks-worst-april-1932-74fe82ac>

    --bks

    I thought you didn't care about the rich.
    Why the sudden turn?

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Apr 22 07:08:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.

    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy

    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted

    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario

    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term

    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away

    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China

    | Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932 as Investors Send 'No
    | Confidence' Signal
    | ... <https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/dow-jones-stocks-worst-april-1932-74fe82ac>

    Trump can fire Hegseth, but he won't.

    Trump cannot fire Powell, but he's itching to. Sending the market down
    yet again.

    Heh, check out that last clause:

    --
    Love makes fools, marriage cuckolds, and patriotism malevolent imbeciles.
    -- Paul Leautaud, "Passe-temps"

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Apr 22 07:11:41 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 12:41:52 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Boeing begins flying back planes refused by Chinese airlines
    |
    | Beijing orders carriers to stop taking deliveries of US
    | jets as part of its trade war strategy
    | ...
    <https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/3006447/boeing-begins-flying-back-planes-refused-by-chinese-airlines>

    --bks

    How long do you think China will be able to keep flying?


    Longer than Russia.

    Especially since they’ve not banned Rolls Royce engine deliveries.

    Likewise, be aware that in the tariff war, only 15% of China’s exports go
    to the USA: they’re strategically going to be hurt far less than we are.
    And that’s before noting how they’re teaming up with Japan & others.

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Apr 22 07:17:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 03:10:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:


    | Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932 as Investors Send 'No
    | Confidence' Signal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/dow-jones-stocks-worst-april-1932-74fe82ac>

    --bks

    I thought you didn't care about the rich.
    Why the sudden turn?

    Gosh, it looks like someone stopped paying attention to domestic employment back in the 1980s.

    For better & worse, the vast majority of American workers today are tied
    quite tightly to the Market, because only 8% of them have an employer who
    still offers a traditional pension. As such, the middle & lower working classes are now compelled to DIY their retirement planning by funding a
    401(k) &/or IRA, much of which predominantly has the Market as a primary investment vehicle.

    TL;DR: despite the motto “Wall Street isn’t Main Street”, the reality is that Americans today are significantly *more* closely tied to Wall Street performance than all prior decades.

    -hh

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 22 12:42:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term
    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932

    |
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    |
    | Some companies are torn: Do they revamp supply chains or
    | wait for the trade war to ebb?
    | ... <https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/from-fake-eyelashes-to-care-bears-u-s-bound-goods-are-stuck-in-tariff-limbo-a4bc0f44>

    --bks

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Apr 22 07:55:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 22/4/25 3:56, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 06:59:51 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 12:41:52 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Boeing begins flying back planes refused by Chinese airlines
    |
    | Beijing orders carriers to stop taking deliveries of US
    | jets as part of its trade war strategy
    | ...
    <https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/3006447/boeing-begins-flying-back-planes-refused-by-chinese-airlines>

    --bks

    How long do you think China will be able to keep flying?

    And Bradley bot has run away.


    Because Boeing is the only maker of airliners.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Gary Roselles@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Apr 22 09:37:53 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/22/2025 3:55 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 03:10:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>
    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.

    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy

    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted

    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario

    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term

    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away

    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China

    |
    | Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932 as Investors Send 'No
    | Confidence' Signal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/dow-jones-stocks-worst-april-1932-74fe82ac>

    --bks

    I thought you didn't care about the rich.
    The majority of people with some stake in the stock market are *not* rich, you lying fucking subhuman Nazi filth.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Apr 23 07:06:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 07:11:41 -0500, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 12:41:52 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Boeing begins flying back planes refused by Chinese airlines
    |
    | Beijing orders carriers to stop taking deliveries of US
    | jets as part of its trade war strategy
    | ...
    <https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/3006447/boeing-begins-flying-back-planes-refused-by-chinese-airlines>

    --bks

    How long do you think China will be able to keep flying?

    Longer than Russia.

    Especially since they've not banned Rolls Royce engine deliveries.

    Likewise, be aware that in the tariff war, only 15% of China's exports go >>to the USA: they're strategically going to be hurt far less than we are. >>And that's before noting how they're teaming up with Japan & others.

    China is heading up a new Pacific trade group with Japan and SKorea as partners. Australia is also looking at entering that group. The
    group has also avowed it will act jointly against any US tariffs
    placed against any of them.

    copy
    Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said he expects "there will be a de-escalation" in President Donald Trump's trade war with China in the
    "very near future."

    Bessent called the sky-high tariff fight between Washington and
    Beijing unsustainable.

    Bessent spoke at a private investor summit in Washington hosted by
    JPMorgan Chase on the sidelines of the World Bank meetings this week.
    /copy

    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/22/bessent-trump-tariffs-china-deescalate.html>

    <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/22/trump-china-tariffs>

    Trump says China tariffs will drop ‘substantially – but it won’t be zero’

    US president says tariffs on imported goods will come down from 145% rate
    but insists ‘we’re doing fine with China’

    . . .

    Despite his high tariffs, Trump said he would be “very nice” to China and
    not play hardball with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

    “We’re going to live together very happily and ideally work together,”
    Trump said.

    Wotta clown!

    --
    Give your child mental blocks for Christmas.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Apr 23 07:07:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 06:55:36 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 03:10:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>
    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.

    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy

    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted

    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario

    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term

    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away

    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China

    |
    | Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932 as Investors Send 'No
    | Confidence' Signal
    | ... >><https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/dow-jones-stocks-worst-april-1932-74fe82ac>

    --bks

    I thought you didn't care about the rich.
    Why the sudden turn?

    Oh Bradley???

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Apr 23 07:09:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 07:17:38 -0500, -hh wrote:
    For better & worse, the vast majority of American workers today are tied >>quite tightly to the Market, because only 8% of them have an employer who >>still offers a traditional pension. As such, the middle & lower working >>classes are now compelled to DIY their retirement planning by funding a >>401(k) &/or IRA, much of which predominantly has the Market as a primary >>investment vehicle.

    TL;DR: despite the motto “Wall Street isn’t Main Street”, the reality is >>that Americans today are significantly *more* closely tied to Wall Street >>performance than all prior decades.

    -hh

    Factoid: Republicans in Oak Ridge and Knoxville Tennessee would do
    well to remember how dependent their economies are on $ from
    Washington.

    Tax cuts have been announced.

    A poor economy will set the stage for that.

    Trickle down, my arse.

    Actually, trickle-down is a good description. A little bit trickles down to the common man, while the rich boys get a flood of cash.

    The peons get peed on.

    --
    Ever heard of .cshrc?
    That's a city in Bosnia. Right?
    -- Discussion in comp.os.linux.misc on the intuitiveness of commands

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Wed Apr 23 09:24:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Chris Ahlstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 07:11:41 -0500, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 12:41:52 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Boeing begins flying back planes refused by Chinese airlines
    |
    | Beijing orders carriers to stop taking deliveries of US
    | jets as part of its trade war strategy
    | ...
    <https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/3006447/boeing-begins-flying-back-planes-refused-by-chinese-airlines>

    --bks

    How long do you think China will be able to keep flying?

    Longer than Russia.

    Especially since they've not banned Rolls Royce engine deliveries.

    Likewise, be aware that in the tariff war, only 15% of China's exports go >>> to the USA: they're strategically going to be hurt far less than we are. >>> And that's before noting how they're teaming up with Japan & others.

    China is heading up a new Pacific trade group with Japan and SKorea as
    partners. Australia is also looking at entering that group. The
    group has also avowed it will act jointly against any US tariffs
    placed against any of them.

    copy
    Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said he expects "there will be a
    de-escalation" in President Donald Trump's trade war with China in the
    "very near future."

    Bessent called the sky-high tariff fight between Washington and
    Beijing unsustainable.

    Bessent spoke at a private investor summit in Washington hosted by
    JPMorgan Chase on the sidelines of the World Bank meetings this week.
    /copy

    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/22/bessent-trump-tariffs-china-deescalate.html>

    <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/22/trump-china-tariffs>

    Trump says China tariffs will drop ‘substantially – but it won’t be zero’

    US president says tariffs on imported goods will come down from 145% rate
    but insists ‘we’re doing fine with China’

    . . .

    Despite his high tariffs, Trump said he would be “very nice” to China and
    not play hardball with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

    “We’re going to live together very happily and ideally work together,”
    Trump said.

    Wotta clown!


    Translation:

    Trump folded & got nothing for it at all.

    Once again, we see how this “brilliant” businessman was able to bankrupt a casino.

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Wed Apr 23 09:29:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Chris Ahlstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 07:17:38 -0500, -hh wrote:
    For better & worse, the vast majority of American workers today are tied >>> quite tightly to the Market, because only 8% of them have an employer who >>> still offers a traditional pension. As such, the middle & lower working >>> classes are now compelled to DIY their retirement planning by funding a
    401(k) &/or IRA, much of which predominantly has the Market as a primary >>> investment vehicle.

    TL;DR: despite the motto “Wall Street isn’t Main Street”, the reality is >>> that Americans today are significantly *more* closely tied to Wall Street >>> performance than all prior decades.

    -hh

    Factoid: Republicans in Oak Ridge and Knoxville Tennessee would do
    well to remember how dependent their economies are on $ from
    Washington.

    Tax cuts have been announced.

    A poor economy will set the stage for that.

    Trickle down, my arse.

    Actually, trickle-down is a good description. A little bit trickles down to the
    common man, while the rich boys get a flood of cash.

    The peons get peed on.

    Good turn on the phrase.

    And another shoe that’s dropping on TN is that soybeans are one of their
    main agricultural crops.

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to -hh on Wed Apr 23 09:35:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 03:10:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:


    | Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932 as Investors Send 'No
    | Confidence' Signal
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/dow-jones-stocks-worst-april-1932-74fe82ac>

    --bks

    I thought you didn't care about the rich.
    Why the sudden turn?

    Gosh, it looks like someone stopped paying attention to domestic employment back in the 1980s.

    For better & worse, the vast majority of American workers today are tied quite tightly to the Market, because only 8% of them have an employer who still offers a traditional pension. As such, the middle & lower working classes are now compelled to DIY their retirement planning by funding a 401(k) &/or IRA, much of which predominantly has the Market as a primary investment vehicle.

    TL;DR: despite the motto “Wall Street isn’t Main Street”, the reality is
    that Americans today are significantly *more* closely tied to Wall Street performance than all prior decades.

    -hh

    Due to how a certain somebody likes to post a “…and [name] has fled…”

    …what is the appropriate amount of time to wait before noting how they themselves are doing it themselves? Use what time interval they use?

    -hh

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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Wed Apr 23 08:29:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/23/2025 4:06 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 07:11:41 -0500, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 12:41:52 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Boeing begins flying back planes refused by Chinese airlines
    |
    | Beijing orders carriers to stop taking deliveries of US
    | jets as part of its trade war strategy
    | ...
    <https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/3006447/boeing-begins-flying-back-planes-refused-by-chinese-airlines>

    --bks

    How long do you think China will be able to keep flying?

    Longer than Russia.

    Especially since they've not banned Rolls Royce engine deliveries.

    Likewise, be aware that in the tariff war, only 15% of China's exports go >>> to the USA: they're strategically going to be hurt far less than we are. >>> And that's before noting how they're teaming up with Japan & others.

    China is heading up a new Pacific trade group with Japan and SKorea as
    partners. Australia is also looking at entering that group. The
    group has also avowed it will act jointly against any US tariffs
    placed against any of them.

    copy
    Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said he expects "there will be a
    de-escalation" in President Donald Trump's trade war with China in the
    "very near future."

    Bessent called the sky-high tariff fight between Washington and
    Beijing unsustainable.

    Bessent spoke at a private investor summit in Washington hosted by
    JPMorgan Chase on the sidelines of the World Bank meetings this week.
    /copy

    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/22/bessent-trump-tariffs-china-deescalate.html>

    <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/22/trump-china-tariffs>

    Trump says China tariffs will drop ‘substantially – but it won’t be zero’

    So, Trump caves *again*.



    US president says tariffs on imported goods will come down from 145% rate
    but insists ‘we’re doing fine with China’

    . . .

    Despite his high tariffs, Trump said he would be “very nice” to China and
    not play hardball with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

    “We’re going to live together very happily and ideally work together,”
    Trump said.

    Wotta clown!


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  • From AlleyCat@21:1/5 to -hh on Wed Apr 23 10:18:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/23/2025 7:24 AM, -hh wrote:
    Chris Ahlstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 07:11:41 -0500, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 12:41:52 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Boeing begins flying back planes refused by Chinese airlines
    |
    | Beijing orders carriers to stop taking deliveries of US
    | jets as part of its trade war strategy
    | ...
    <https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/3006447/boeing-begins-flying-back-planes-refused-by-chinese-airlines>

    --bks

    How long do you think China will be able to keep flying?

    Longer than Russia.

    Especially since they've not banned Rolls Royce engine deliveries.

    Likewise, be aware that in the tariff war, only 15% of China's exports go >>>> to the USA: they're strategically going to be hurt far less than we are. >>>> And that's before noting how they're teaming up with Japan & others.

    China is heading up a new Pacific trade group with Japan and SKorea as
    partners. Australia is also looking at entering that group. The
    group has also avowed it will act jointly against any US tariffs
    placed against any of them.

    copy
    Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said he expects "there will be a
    de-escalation" in President Donald Trump's trade war with China in the
    "very near future."

    Bessent called the sky-high tariff fight between Washington and
    Beijing unsustainable.

    Bessent spoke at a private investor summit in Washington hosted by
    JPMorgan Chase on the sidelines of the World Bank meetings this week.
    /copy

    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/22/bessent-trump-tariffs-china-deescalate.html>

    <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/22/trump-china-tariffs> >>
    Trump says China tariffs will drop ‘substantially – but it won’t be zero’

    US president says tariffs on imported goods will come down from 145% rate
    but insists ‘we’re doing fine with China’

    . . .

    Despite his high tariffs, Trump said he would be “very nice” to China and
    not play hardball with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

    “We’re going to live together very happily and ideally work together,”
    Trump said.

    Wotta clown!


    Translation:

    Trump folded & got nothing for it at all.

    Once again, we see how this “brilliant” businessman was able to bankrupt a
    casino.
    *Multiple* casinos. Trump is a *failure* in anything outside of hotels and golf courses, and even those are not the shining successes he says.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Wed Apr 23 21:01:34 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/23/2025 7:24 AM, -hh wrote:
    Chris Ahlstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 07:11:41 -0500, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 12:41:52 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K. >>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Boeing begins flying back planes refused by Chinese airlines
    |
    | Beijing orders carriers to stop taking deliveries of US
    | jets as part of its trade war strategy
    | ...
    <https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/3006447/boeing-begins-flying-back-planes-refused-by-chinese-airlines>

    --bks

    How long do you think China will be able to keep flying?

    Longer than Russia.

    Especially since they've not banned Rolls Royce engine deliveries.

    Likewise, be aware that in the tariff war, only 15% of China's exports go >>>>> to the USA: they're strategically going to be hurt far less than we are. >>>>> And that's before noting how they're teaming up with Japan & others.

    China is heading up a new Pacific trade group with Japan and SKorea as >>>> partners. Australia is also looking at entering that group. The
    group has also avowed it will act jointly against any US tariffs
    placed against any of them.

    copy
    Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said he expects "there will be a
    de-escalation" in President Donald Trump's trade war with China in the >>>> "very near future."

    Bessent called the sky-high tariff fight between Washington and
    Beijing unsustainable.

    Bessent spoke at a private investor summit in Washington hosted by
    JPMorgan Chase on the sidelines of the World Bank meetings this week.
    /copy

    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/22/bessent-trump-tariffs-china-deescalate.html>

    <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/22/trump-china-tariffs>

    Trump says China tariffs will drop ‘substantially – but it won’t be zero’

    US president says tariffs on imported goods will come down from 145% rate >>> but insists ‘we’re doing fine with China’

    . . .

    Despite his high tariffs, Trump said he would be “very nice” to China and
    not play hardball with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

    “We’re going to live together very happily and ideally work together,”
    Trump said.

    Wotta clown!


    Translation:

    Trump folded & got nothing for it at all.

    Once again, we see how this “brilliant” businessman was able to bankrupt a
    casino.

    *Multiple* casinos. Trump is a *failure* in anything outside of hotels and golf
    courses, and even those are not the shining successes he says.

    And yet his fans still insist that he’s brilliant.

    In the meantime, Ken Griffin, head of Citadel, isn’t mincing words:

    “The U.S. is 20% poorer in just four weeks.”

    Griffin also warns:

    “There’s no great opportunity when the pie is shrinking. All you’re doing is trying not to drown.”


    -hh

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 12:17:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term
    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo

    | ...
    | I'd say never mind the stock market. Focus on the real
    | economy, where everything says that policy chaos will soon
    | take a real toll. The Fed's Beige Book, which looks at what
    | businesses are saying, says that "uncertainty around
    | international trade policy was pervasive across reports."
    | And this uncertainty will have dire effects on the real
    | economy.
    | ...
    | In other words, we may soon see a disruption of supply
    | chains reminiscent of what happened during and after the
    | Covid pandemic. But this time a virus won't be responsible.
    | It will all be about Donald Trump. And this time there
    | won't be a vaccine coming to our rescue. We're stuck with
    | this chaos agent for three years and three months.
    |
    <https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/trump-is-a-virus>

    --bks

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu Apr 24 06:31:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 24/4/25 3:50, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 21:01:34 -0500, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/23/2025 7:24 AM, -hh wrote:
    Chris Ahlstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
    <snip>
    Despite his high tariffs, Trump said he would be �very nice� to China and >>>>> not play hardball with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

    �We�re going to live together very happily and ideally work together,� >>>>> Trump said.

    Wotta clown!

    Translation:

    Trump folded & got nothing for it at all.

    Once again, we see how this �brilliant� businessman was able to bankrupt a >>>> casino.

    *Multiple* casinos. Trump is a *failure* in anything outside of hotels and golf
    courses, and even those are not the shining successes he says.

    The most successful ones are locally run. They're mostly just
    licensing deals for the name.

    And yet his fans still insist that he�s brilliant.

    In the meantime, Ken Griffin, head of Citadel, isn�t mincing words:

    �The U.S. is 20% poorer in just four weeks.�

    Griffin also warns:

    �There�s no great opportunity when the pie is shrinking. All you�re doing
    is trying not to drown.�


    -hh

    You know, you would not need piddly social security if you invest
    heavily in the stock market.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 29 20:43:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term
    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo

    |
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession
    | ...
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt1_TtL3QKs>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 30 12:41:46 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term
    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession

    |
    | U.S. economic growth slowed sharply in the first quarter of
    | 2025 as businesses rushed to stockpile goods ahead of
    | President Trump's sweeping tariff policies.
    |
    | The nation's gross domestic product -- the total value of
    | products and services -- grew at a -0.3% pace, down from
    | 2.4% in the final three months of 2024, the Commerce
    | Department reported Wednesday in its initial GDP estimate.
    | ... <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gdp-report-today-trump-tariffs-economy-first-quarter-2025/>

    --bks

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  • From Creon@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Wed Apr 30 15:28:46 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 12:41:46 -0000 (UTC), Bradley K. Sherman wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bartiromo
    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> economy
    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term
    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession

    |
    | U.S. economic growth slowed sharply in the first quarter of | 2025 as
    businesses rushed to stockpile goods ahead of | President Trump's
    sweeping tariff policies.
    |
    | The nation's gross domestic product -- the total value of | products
    and services -- grew at a -0.3% pace, down from | 2.4% in the final
    three months of 2024, the Commerce | Department reported Wednesday in
    its initial GDP estimate. | ... <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gdp-report-today-trump-tariffs-economy-
    first-quarter-2025/>

    --bks

    When he was elected, I _said_ "it might be okay if he doesn't mess
    with the economy".

    But he didn't learn from his first term, and started an even _bigger_
    trade war, leaning on a recovering economy: And he's tanking it.

    --
    -c

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 1 11:37:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term
    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession
    | The nation's gross domestic product -- the total value of
    | products and services -- grew at a -0.3% pace, down from
    | 2.4% in the final three months of 2024, the Commerce
    | Department reported Wednesday in its initial GDP estimate.

    |
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April, well
    | below expectations
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/30/adp-jobs-report-april-2025.html>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 1 13:06:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term
    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession
    | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April

    |
    | Weekly jobless claims surge to 241,000, more than expected,
    | in latest sign of economic trouble
    | ... <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/01/weekly-jobless-claims-surge-to-241000.html>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Thu May 1 13:28:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vuvrkp$rp4$[email protected]:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term
    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay
    | Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession
    | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April

    |
    | Weekly jobless claims surge to 241,000, more than expected,
    | in latest sign of economic trouble
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/01/weekly-jobless-claims-surge-to-241000.
    html>

    --bks



    Watch for the Blame Biden First
    crowd in chime in on this one.

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  • From Creon@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu May 1 15:57:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 01 May 2025 11:02:28 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    On Thu, 01 May 2025 13:28:49 +0000, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in >>news:vuvrkp$rp4$[email protected]:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay | >>>>>>>>> Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession
    | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April

    |
    | Weekly jobless claims surge to 241,000, more than expected,
    | in latest sign of economic trouble | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/01/weekly-jobless-claims-surge-to-241000.
    html>

    --bks



    Watch for the Blame Biden First
    crowd in chime in on this one.

    Already started:

    Trump on Truth Social:
    "This is Biden’s Stock Market, not Trump’s. I didn’t take over until January 20th. Tariffs will soon start kicking in, and companies are
    starting to move into the USA in record numbers. Our Country will boom,
    but we have to get rid of the Biden “Overhang.” This will take a while,
    has NOTHING TO DO WITH TARIFFS, only that he left us with bad numbers,
    but when the boom begins, it will be like no other. BE PATIENT!!!"


    He's doubling-down on "stupid".

    Congress had the ability to take his (so-alleged) "emergency"
    tariff power away from him, but the MAGA Magoos in the
    Senate voted it down. So this is on them, too.

    --
    MAGA wants to kiss off all the amendments since the Twelth.

    --
    -c System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
    OS: Linux 6.14.4 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
    "Macho does not prove Mucho."

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 14:29:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term
    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession
    | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April

    |
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | ... <https://www.reuters.com/world/china/global-economy-already-feeling-drag-trump-tariffs-2025-05-05/>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Mon May 5 17:58:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vvai0t$e2f$[email protected]:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's
    | economy
    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term
    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay
    | Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession
    | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April

    |
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | ...
    <https://www.reuters.com/world/china/global-economy-already-feeling-dra g-trump-tariffs-2025-05-05/>

    --bks



    Blame Biden First is all the
    Trumpers can say in defense.

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 12:00:46 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vvai0t$e2f$[email protected]:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's >>>>>>>>>>>> | economy
    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay >>>>>>>> | Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession
    | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April

    |
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | ... <https://www.reuters.com/world/china/global-economy-already-feeling-dra g-trump-tariffs-2025-05-05/>

    --bks



    Blame Biden First is all the
    Trumpers can say in defense.

    Oh the irony.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 22:15:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term
    | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession
    | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs

    |
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    |
    | President Donald Trump's trade war is sending construction
    | costs up, and interest rates are expected to stay high this
    | year
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/05/05/housing-economy-tariffs-rates/>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 7 13:10:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession
    | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market

    |
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill. It's a Matter
    | of Time Until Americans Feel It.
    | ...
    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/ar-AA1EhmJR>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 13 12:46:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.

    |
    | As Foreign Tourists Stay Away, U.S. Could Lose $12.5
    | Billion This Year, Tourism Group Says
    |
    | Border detentions and confusion over visas are deterring
    | international visitors, according to the World Travel &
    | Tourism Council, and the price tag for their hesitancy
    | could be steep.
    | ... <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/13/travel/united-states-international-visitors-decline.html>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu May 15 07:19:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 13 May 2025 12:46:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.

    |
    | As Foreign Tourists Stay Away, U.S. Could Lose $12.5
    | Billion This Year, Tourism Group Says
    |
    | Border detentions and confusion over visas are deterring
    | international visitors, according to the World Travel &
    | Tourism Council, and the price tag for their hesitancy
    | could be steep.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/13/travel/united-states-international-visitors-decline.html>

    --bks

    Paywalled garbage cite noted.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 19:22:46 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    The 'TrumpCession' seems to have been cancelled.
    Everything up very nicely the past week.

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 25 00:27:39 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    c186282 wrote:
    The 'TrumpCession' seems to have been cancelled.
    Everything up very nicely the past week.

    Tariffs on (partial) hold, remember?

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 28 14:49:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Fewer international tourists are visiting the U.S. --
    | economic losses could be 'staggering,' researchers estimate
    | ... <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/28/travel-spending-us-from-overseas-tourists-to-fall-in-2025.html>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 2 13:04:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts >>>>>>> | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.

    |
    | U.S. Dependence on China for Rare Earth Magnets Is Causing
    | Shortages
    | ... <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/02/business/china-rare-earths-united-states-supplies.html>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 3 11:32:32 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.

    |
    | Economic growth forecasts for the U.S. and globally were
    | cut further by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation
    | and Development as President Donald Trump's tariff turmoil
    | weighs on expectations.
    | ... <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/03/us-growth-forecast-cut-further-by-oecd-as-trump-tariffs-sour-outlook.html>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Jun 3 07:18:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 13:04:02 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China >>>>>>>>>>> | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts >>>>>>>> | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.

    |
    | U.S. Dependence on China for Rare Earth Magnets Is Causing
    | Shortages
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/02/business/china-rare-earths-united-states-supplies.html>

    --bks

    Hmm sounds like we need other sources. How would that be Trump's
    fault?

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Jun 3 12:26:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.

    | Economic growth forecasts for the U.S. and globally were
    | cut further by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation
    | and Development as President Donald Trump's tariff turmoil
    | weighs on expectations.
    | ... <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/03/us-growth-forecast-cut-further-by-oecd-as-trump-tariffs-sour-outlook.html>

    <https://studyinternational.com/news/trump-student-wharton/>

    The education of Donald Trump has shone some light on a few interesting
    takes.

    Despite the US president attesting to the fact that he finished “top of his
    class” at Wharton Business School at the University of Pennsylvania, his
    former college professor, William T. Kelley, had another view.

    After Kelley’s death, Frank DiPrima, a close friend of Kelley, revealed
    that the professor felt the president was a fool.

    “Professor Kelley told me 100 times over three decades that ‘Donald Trump
    was the dumbest goddam student I ever had,'” DiPrima wrote for the Daily
    Kos. “I remember his emphasis and inflection — it went like this — ‘Donald
    Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had.”

    --
    Bride, n.:
    A woman with a fine prospect of happiness behind her.
    -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Jun 4 07:16:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 03 Jun 2025 07:18:36 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 13:04:02 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China >>>>>>>>>>>> | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts >>>>>>>>> | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.

    |
    | U.S. Dependence on China for Rare Earth Magnets Is Causing
    | Shortages
    | ... >><https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/02/business/china-rare-earths-united-states-supplies.html>

    --bks

    Hmm sounds like we need other sources. How would that be Trump's
    fault?

    Silence from the coward.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Jun 4 07:16:26 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 11:32:32 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.

    |
    | Economic growth forecasts for the U.S. and globally were
    | cut further by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation
    | and Development as President Donald Trump's tariff turmoil
    | weighs on expectations.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/03/us-growth-forecast-cut-further-by-oecd-as-trump-tariffs-sour-outlook.html>

    --bks

    The long game is to make to make the country more self sufficient.
    Why do have a problem with that?

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 4 13:07:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.

    |
    | U.S. Hiring Slows Again, ADP Report Shows
    | ... <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-trump-tariffs-trade-war-06-04-2025/card/u-s-hiring-slows-again-adp-report-shows-lk7TGwCNs0lm1cUP5LNP>

    --bks

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Jun 4 13:42:44 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 6/4/25 07:16, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 03 Jun 2025 07:18:36 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 13:04:02 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy
    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China >>>>>>>>>>>>> | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts >>>>>>>>>> | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.

    |
    | U.S. Dependence on China for Rare Earth Magnets Is Causing
    | Shortages
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/02/business/china-rare-earths-united-states-supplies.html>

    --bks

    Hmm sounds like we need other sources. How would that be Trump's
    fault?

    Silence from the coward.

    Its possible that they're trying to avoid embarrassing you ... again.


    -hh

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 4 21:17:08 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
    | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession
    | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.

    |
    | U.S. economy stalled in May, Fed survey finds
    |
    | Consumers pulled back on spending and businesses delayed
    | hiring decisions given uncertain outlook
    | ... <https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-economy-stalled-in-may-fed-survey-finds-94f58d39>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu Jun 5 07:05:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 21:17:08 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.

    |
    | U.S. economy stalled in May, Fed survey finds
    |
    | Consumers pulled back on spending and businesses delayed
    | hiring decisions given uncertain outlook
    | ...
    <https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-economy-stalled-in-may-fed-survey-finds-94f58d39>

    --bks

    You left out these important facts from the article:

    "The economy is expected to rebound in the second quarter, largely
    because the surge of tariffs has evaporated for now.

    The Beige Book is essentially a collection of anecdotal information
    from the regional Fed banks� contacts in their regions. It was
    compiled to help Fed officials prepare for the next meeting of the interest-rate committee, scheduled for June 17-18."

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu Jun 5 07:03:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 13:07:03 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts >>>>>>> | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.

    |
    | U.S. Hiring Slows Again, ADP Report Shows
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-trump-tariffs-trade-war-06-04-2025/card/u-s-hiring-slows-again-adp-report-shows-lk7TGwCNs0lm1cUP5LNP>

    --bks

    Paywalled garbage.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Jun 6 07:20:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 07:05:33 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 21:17:08 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.

    |
    | U.S. economy stalled in May, Fed survey finds
    |
    | Consumers pulled back on spending and businesses delayed
    | hiring decisions given uncertain outlook
    | ... >><https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-economy-stalled-in-may-fed-survey-finds-94f58d39>

    --bks

    You left out these important facts from the article:

    "The economy is expected to rebound in the second quarter, largely
    because the surge of tariffs has evaporated for now.

    The Beige Book is essentially a collection of anecdotal information
    from the regional Fed banks� contacts in their regions. It was
    compiled to help Fed officials prepare for the next meeting of the >interest-rate committee, scheduled for June 17-18."

    Oh Bradley???

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 14 13:43:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.
    | U.S. economy stalled in May, Fed survey finds

    |
    | Ford CEO says rare earths shortage forced it to shut factory
    | ... <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ford-ceo-china-rare-earth-shortage-car-production/?linkId=830511387>

    --bks

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sat Jun 14 07:56:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 14/6/25 6:43, [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.
    | U.S. economy stalled in May, Fed survey finds

    |
    | Ford CEO says rare earths shortage forced it to shut factory
    | ... <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ford-ceo-china-rare-earth-shortage-car-production/?linkId=830511387>

    --bks


    China risks overplaying its hand. Rare earths are abundant enough
    to have mines in the USA and elsewhere. What China has is already
    built refining etc. If those get built elsewhere (and those are
    starting), China becomes irrelevant. That is what OPEC learned:
    make oil expensive enough for profits but so expensive people
    switch to better alternatives.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Jun 15 09:25:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 13:43:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.
    | U.S. economy stalled in May, Fed survey finds

    |
    | Ford CEO says rare earths shortage forced it to shut factory
    | ...
    <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ford-ceo-china-rare-earth-shortage-car-production/?linkId=830511387>

    --bks

    Laughter.

    I'm *sure* it has nothing to do with them not being able to sell their products.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Jun 16 07:16:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 09:25:40 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 13:43:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts >>>>>>> | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.
    | U.S. economy stalled in May, Fed survey finds

    |
    | Ford CEO says rare earths shortage forced it to shut factory
    | ... >><https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ford-ceo-china-rare-earth-shortage-car-production/?linkId=830511387>

    --bks

    Laughter.

    I'm *sure* it has nothing to do with them not being able to sell their >products.

    And the liar runs away.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 19 14:39:32 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts
    | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.
    | U.S. economy stalled in May, Fed survey finds
    | Ford CEO says rare earths shortage forced it to shut factory

    |
    | CEO economic outlook sinks to five-year low
    | ...
    <https://www.axios.com/2025/06/18/trump-tariffs-ceo-economic-outlook>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 26 14:21:21 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts >>>>>>> | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.
    | U.S. economy stalled in May, Fed survey finds
    | Ford CEO says rare earths shortage forced it to shut factory
    | CEO economic outlook sinks to five-year low

    |
    | The U.S. economy shrank by 0.5% in the first quarter of
    | 2025, according to the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis'
    | (BEA) third and final estimate. This decline follows a
    | robust 2.4% expansion in the fourth quarter of 2024,
    | signaling a sharp reversal in momentum as several economic
    | headwinds took hold.
    | ... <https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/the-us-economy-shrank-in-the-first-quarter-by-05-062625.html>

    --bks

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  • From leonard@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Thu Jun 26 10:49:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 6/26/2025 7:21 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:

    |
    | The U.S. economy shrank by 0.5% in the first quarter of
    | 2025,

    Trump said it would. He also said it would get worse before it got
    better because of Biden screwups. He's been right so far.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 1 14:49:57 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario
    | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away >>>>>>>>>>> | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China
    | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts >>>>>>> | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.
    | U.S. economy stalled in May, Fed survey finds
    | Ford CEO says rare earths shortage forced it to shut factory
    | CEO economic outlook sinks to five-year low

    |
    | The Battle to Keep Consumers Means Smaller Packs of Cookies
    | and Chips
    |
    | PepsiCo, Campbell's and others are shrinking packages ...
    | ... <https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-battle-to-keep-consumers-means-smaller-packs-of-cookies-and-chips-744ff287>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 13:06:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China >>>>>>>>>>> | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts >>>>>>>> | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.
    | U.S. economy stalled in May, Fed survey finds
    | Ford CEO says rare earths shortage forced it to shut factory
    | CEO economic outlook sinks to five-year low

    |
    | The private sector lost 33,000 jobs in June, badly missing
    | expectations for a 100,000 increase, ADP says
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/02/adp-jobs-report-june-2025.html>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Jul 2 12:36:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 14:49:57 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted
    | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China >>>>>>>>>>> | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts >>>>>>>> | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.
    | U.S. economy stalled in May, Fed survey finds
    | Ford CEO says rare earths shortage forced it to shut factory
    | CEO economic outlook sinks to five-year low

    |
    | The Battle to Keep Consumers Means Smaller Packs of Cookies
    | and Chips
    |
    | PepsiCo, Campbell's and others are shrinking packages ...
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-battle-to-keep-consumers-means-smaller-packs-of-cookies-and-chips-744ff287>

    --bks

    Where were you the last four years when this was in full swing?

    You wouldn't be a hypocrite now, would you?

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to burch cassidy on Wed Jul 2 20:07:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: sac.politics

    On 6/28/25 06:32, burch cassidy wrote:
    On 27 Jun 2025, Rudy Cy Ubinger <[email protected]> is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 6/27/2025 3:18 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
    obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 27 Jun 2025, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gma l.con> posted
    some news:QBz7Q.75661$[email protected]:

    On 6/26/2025 11:50 PM, c186282, Nazi pseudo-sage and cocksucking
    cipher, took his hands and mouth off Xi's dick long enough to peck:

    Well, the global economy is back UP now.
    No citation means you're lying, you fucking lying Nazi pseudo-sage.

    Pisses you off that Trump's economy is performing quite nicely while

    It's *shrinking*, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* cocksucker and draft
    dodger.

    "GDP data shows U.S. economy shrank

    You're such the TDS dumbass.

    S&P 500 closes at record
    The S&P 500 notched a record close on Friday, after earlier hitting an intraday high.


    So? In what context?

    The broad market index gained 0.52% to close at 6,173.07, while the Nasdaq Composite gained 0.52% to 20,273.46, also a record close. The Dow Jones Industrial Average climbed 432.43 points, or 1%, to finish the session at 43,819.27.

    In context, NASDAQ is up just +1% since its Dec 24 high.
    SP500 is similarly just +2% vs its 2024 high.
    DJIA is -1.2% (oops).

    Averaged together, that's a +0.6% return for TTD.

    Since the long term average Market annual gain is 8%/year and its now
    July, half a year is half that: +4%. So at just +0.6%, we see that the
    Market is under-performing its average returns by a "mere" 80%.


    Hmmm...

    "Wall Street isn't Main Street"

    "With over 160,000 pandemic deaths and more than 30 million Americans collecting unemployment, Wall Street stocks are booming! Do you need any
    more proof that Wall Street is disconnected from Main Street America?

    The stock market has ceased being an indicator of our nation’s economic health. Today’s Wall Street is a private cul-de-sac in an exclusive
    gated community owned by billionaires. It is no longer connected to the American dream."

    <https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/aug/23/wall-street-isnt-main-street/>

    "Trump’s advisers will tell you that Wall Street isn’t Main Street. And they’re right about that. But the fact that they — like every economic forecaster I know — is starting to talk about the possibility of a
    recession reveals an obvious truth here: These tariffs are a problem for
    not just Wall Street. They’re battering Main Street, too."

    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/12/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-kimberly-clausing.html>


    -hh

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Jul 3 10:23:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 02 Jul 2025 12:36:01 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 14:49:57 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy.
    | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China >>>>>>>>>>>> | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts >>>>>>>>> | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.
    | U.S. economy stalled in May, Fed survey finds
    | Ford CEO says rare earths shortage forced it to shut factory
    | CEO economic outlook sinks to five-year low

    |
    | The Battle to Keep Consumers Means Smaller Packs of Cookies
    | and Chips
    |
    | PepsiCo, Campbell's and others are shrinking packages ...
    | ... >><https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-battle-to-keep-consumers-means-smaller-packs-of-cookies-and-chips-744ff287>

    --bks

    Where were you the last four years when this was in full swing?

    You wouldn't be a hypocrite now, would you?

    And Bradley has run away.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Jul 6 14:37:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 7/4/25 19:12, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 13:06:24 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy
    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China >>>>>>>>>>>>> | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession >>>>>>>>>>> | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts >>>>>>>>>> | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.
    | U.S. economy stalled in May, Fed survey finds
    | Ford CEO says rare earths shortage forced it to shut factory
    | CEO economic outlook sinks to five-year low

    |
    | The private sector lost 33,000 jobs in June, badly missing
    | expectations for a 100,000 increase, ADP says
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/02/adp-jobs-report-june-2025.html>

    --bks

    W ... w ... wait. The private sector LOST jobs? How long has it been
    since that happened?


    Gotta wonder too how many of the Government sector job gains were
    because Trump/DOGE lost court cases and was forced to reinstate.


    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Jul 8 18:01:25 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 7/7/25 17:06, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 14:37:55 -0400, -hh
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 7/4/25 19:12, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 13:06:24 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Of Course Trump Will Tank the Economy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's "Liberation Day" is set to whack America's economy
    | The Coming Recession Will Be Self-Inflicted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Stagflation Is Now America's Best-Case Scenario >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Economic Outlook Dives Just Three Months Into Trump's Term >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away
    | Analysts Warn US Could Be Handing Chip Market To China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | U.S.-Bound Goods Are Stuck in Tariff Limbo
    | JP Morgan CEO: Best case scenario for US economy is a recession
    | US economy goes into reverse from Trump's abrupt policy shifts >>>>>>>>>>>> | Private payroll growth slowed to 62,000 in April
    | Global economy already feeling drag from Trump tariffs
    | The flagging economy is hurting the housing market
    | Global Shipping Is Grinding to a Standstill.
    | U.S. economy stalled in May, Fed survey finds
    | Ford CEO says rare earths shortage forced it to shut factory
    | CEO economic outlook sinks to five-year low

    |
    | The private sector lost 33,000 jobs in June, badly missing
    | expectations for a 100,000 increase, ADP says
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/02/adp-jobs-report-june-2025.html>

    --bks

    W ... w ... wait. The private sector LOST jobs? How long has it been
    since that happened?


    Gotta wonder too how many of the Government sector job gains were
    because Trump/DOGE lost court cases and was forced to reinstate.

    Since those all disappeared and came back in the same quarter, mostly,
    that would be a wash.

    In theory, sure, but the rub with that is that they get reported
    separately. Plus the fires & hires weren't in the same months, and
    since these are monthly reports, they would be "new" for June.

    Any increase in gummint jobs is just plain expansion.

    This isn't an increase, but is noise added to the reporting system.

    Doubly embarrassing since the whole point of DOGE and all
    that drama was to *reduce* the workforce.

    Nah, that wasn't DOGE's goals. Their goals were to disrupt government regulators who were investigating crimes/etc at Elon's businesses, and
    to get access into as many Government systems that they can, because
    having "big data" is profit and power. We already have seen how China
    has done this and uses it to coerce their population into compliance.


    -hh

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 18 15:03:56 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | ACA health insurance will cost the average person 75% more
    | next year, research shows
    | ... <https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/07/18/nx-s1-5471281/aca-health-insurance-premiums-obamacare-bbb-kff>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sat Jul 19 10:12:25 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 15:03:56 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | ACA health insurance will cost the average person 75% more
    | next year, research shows
    | ...
    <https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/07/18/nx-s1-5471281/aca-health-insurance-premiums-obamacare-bbb-kff>

    --bks

    Obamacare will cost people more money.

    Who would have thought?

    Laughter.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 19 14:16:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Beef prices keep going up, and there's no end in sight
    | ...
    <https://www.axios.com/2025/07/19/beef-prices-2025-cpi-inflation>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Jul 19 18:39:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 14:16:06 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Beef prices keep going up, and there's no end in sight
    | ...
    <https://www.axios.com/2025/07/19/beef-prices-2025-cpi-inflation>

    --bks

    Kroger delivery has bone in pork shoulder (Boston butt) roasts for
    1.97 lb this week.

    Pork, the other white meat.


    "Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us,
    pigs regrard us as equals. I like pigs"
    - Winston Churchill -

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Jul 19 16:12:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 7/19/25 10:12, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 15:03:56 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | ACA health insurance will cost the average person 75% more
    | next year, research shows
    | ...
    <https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/07/18/nx-s1-5471281/aca-health-insurance-premiums-obamacare-bbb-kff>

    --bks

    Obamacare will cost people more money.

    Nope, its due to the BBB.

    The 75% rise mentioned above is the elimination of income based
    subsidies from the ACA, which is what will result in millions becoming uninsured.

    For everyone else (which includes you), 80% of policies are expected to
    have a rate increase of 10% or more, and over 50% will see increases of
    more than +15%:

    <https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/individual-market-insurers-requesting-largest-premium-increases-in-more-than-5-years/>

    Who would have thought?

    Laughter.

    According to KFF, the average annual cost for family health insurance in
    the US is $25,572 per year. A 15% increase on this is +$3836/yr, which
    is +$320/month.

    Better not be caught complaining about getting just what you asked for.


    -hh

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Jul 19 17:45:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 14:16:06 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Beef prices keep going up, and there's no end in sight
    | ...
    <https://www.axios.com/2025/07/19/beef-prices-2025-cpi-inflation>

    --bks

    Kroger delivery has bone in pork shoulder (Boston butt) roasts for
    1.97 lb this week.

    Pork, the other white meat.


    Tofu.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Jul 20 10:02:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 14:16:06 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Beef prices keep going up, and there's no end in sight
    | ...
    <https://www.axios.com/2025/07/19/beef-prices-2025-cpi-inflation>

    --bks

    Paywalled garbage.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 20 14:13:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | Beef prices keep going up, and there's no end in sight

    |
    | Trump promised to lower prices. So why are they going up?
    | ...
    <https://www.pahouse.com/Tarik/InTheNews/Opinion/?id=137257>

    |
    | We're tracking grocery prices around Chicago since Trump
    | took office. They're up and likely to keep rising.
    | ... <https://chicago.suntimes.com/the-watchdogs/2025/07/18/supermarket-super-pain-trump-campaign-food-prices-inflation-tariffs>

    |
    | As of June, grocery prices are climbing at a pace of 2.4%
    | per year, up from May's 2.2% rate.
    | ... <https://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/articles/how-bad-is-inflation-tracking-the-price-of-eggs-housing-and-gas>

    --bks

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Jul 20 21:48:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 17:45:18 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 14:16:06 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Beef prices keep going up, and there's no end in sight
    | ...
    <https://www.axios.com/2025/07/19/beef-prices-2025-cpi-inflation>

    --bks

    Kroger delivery has bone in pork shoulder (Boston butt) roasts for
    1.97 lb this week.

    Pork, the other white meat.


    Tofu.

    Long pig.


    Seaman Hornsby is a "Swine". He will be going on a mission he likely
    won't be returning from.

    ~~ Operation Petticoat

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Mon Jul 21 06:59:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 14:13:40 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Beef prices keep going up, and there's no end in sight

    |
    | Trump promised to lower prices. So why are they going up?
    | ...
    <https://www.pahouse.com/Tarik/InTheNews/Opinion/?id=137257>

    |
    | We're tracking grocery prices around Chicago since Trump
    | took office. They're up and likely to keep rising.
    | ...
    <https://chicago.suntimes.com/the-watchdogs/2025/07/18/supermarket-super-pain-trump-campaign-food-prices-inflation-tariffs>

    |
    | As of June, grocery prices are climbing at a pace of 2.4%
    | per year, up from May's 2.2% rate.
    | ...
    <https://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/articles/how-bad-is-inflation-tracking-the-price-of-eggs-housing-and-gas>

    --bks

    Sooo what was the rate under Biden and why didn't you care then?

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Jul 21 07:31:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 17:45:18 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 14:16:06 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Beef prices keep going up, and there's no end in sight
    | ...
    <https://www.axios.com/2025/07/19/beef-prices-2025-cpi-inflation>

    Kroger delivery has bone in pork shoulder (Boston butt) roasts for
    1.97 lb this week.

    Pork, the other white meat.


    Tofu.

    Long pig.

    <BARF>

    --
    <miguel> `You have been unsubscribed from the high energy personal
    protection devices mailing list'
    <miguel> I dont remember getting into the mailing list

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Mon Jul 21 04:46:26 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 17:45:18 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 14:16:06 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Beef prices keep going up, and there's no end in sight
    | ...
    <https://www.axios.com/2025/07/19/beef-prices-2025-cpi-inflation>

    Kroger delivery has bone in pork shoulder (Boston butt) roasts for
    1.97 lb this week.

    Pork, the other white meat.


    Tofu.

    Long pig.

    <BARF>


    Do not be so dramatic. It is just a modest proposal.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Mon Jul 21 07:35:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 17:45:18 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 14:16:06 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Beef prices keep going up, and there's no end in sight
    | ...
    <https://www.axios.com/2025/07/19/beef-prices-2025-cpi-inflation>

    --bks

    Kroger delivery has bone in pork shoulder (Boston butt) roasts for
    1.97 lb this week.

    Pork, the other white meat.

    Tofu.

    Long pig.

    Seaman Hornsby is a "Swine". He will be going on a mission he likely
    won't be returning from.

    ~~ Operation Petticoat

    "Esteban was eaten."

    --
    "Life, loathe it or ignore it, you can't like it."
    -- Marvin the paranoid android

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Mon Jul 21 04:47:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 17:45:18 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 14:16:06 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Beef prices keep going up, and there's no end in sight
    | ...
    <https://www.axios.com/2025/07/19/beef-prices-2025-cpi-inflation>

    --bks

    Kroger delivery has bone in pork shoulder (Boston butt) roasts for
    1.97 lb this week.

    Pork, the other white meat.

    Tofu.

    Long pig.

    Seaman Hornsby is a "Swine". He will be going on a mission he likely
    won't be returning from.

    ~~ Operation Petticoat

    "Esteban was eaten."


    This froup is going down.

    --
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Jul 22 06:32:26 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 07:31:28 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Long pig.

    <BARF>

    Tastes better than you think. I eat guys all the time. ;)

    Speaking of human cannibalism:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deoNAOfkXxc>

    Monty Python - Lifeboat sketch

    "Eat me!" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkTrL4YpwDA>

    I swear the fortune sigmonster knows my search history!

    --
    If only Dionysus were alive! Where would he eat?
    -- Woody Allen

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 1 13:43:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Beef prices at all-time high
    | ... <https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/07/22/beef-prices-record-highs/85325298007/>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 1 14:53:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | I'm working on a full-length primer on tariffs for Sunday,
    | but this morning's jobs report shocker needs a comment.
    |
    | It's highly likely that what we're seeing is the effect of
    | Trump's tariffs -- or more precisely the uncertainty that
    | his erratic tariff policy has created.
    |
    | Contrary to myth, tariffs don't necessarily cause high
    | unemployment. They make the economy less efficient and
    | poorer, but don't necessarily reduce the total number of
    | jobs. For example, Britain in the 1950s had high tariffs
    | and import controls, but also full employment. The claim
    | that Smoot-Hawley caused the Great Depression is a myth,
    | one fostered in part by anti-Keynesians who didn't want to
    | admit that the problem was inadequate demand and the answer
    | fiscal stimulus.
    |
    | But Trump has brought something special to the mix: Not
    | just high tariffs, but unpredictable tariffs. Since April 2
    | nobody (probably Trump included) has had no idea what
    | tariff rates will be for the next few months, let alone for
    | the long term.
    | ...
    <https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-meaning-of-a-weak-jobs-report>

    --bks

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  • From Marmalade King@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Fri Aug 1 15:00:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Bradley K. Sherman wrote:


    |
    | Beef prices at all-time high
    | ...
    <https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/07/22/beef-prices-record-hig >hs/85325298007/>

    --bks



    I was just going to order some Trump Steaks.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 1 23:28:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | Beef prices at all-time high

    |
    | Procter & Gamble CEO on tariffs: They are 'inherently
    | inflationary'
    |
    | Procter & Gamble (PG) says the Trump administration's
    | tariff policy is causing it to push through price hikes on
    | shoppers to protect its profit margins.
    | ... <https://finance.yahoo.com/news/procter--gamble-ceo-on-tariffs-they-are-inherently-inflationary-124544635.html>

    Donald Trump, one year ago:
    "Starting on day one, we will end inflation and make America
    affordable again, to bring down the prices of all goods."

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 2 10:45:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Donald Trump, one year ago:
    "Starting on day one, we will end inflation and make America
    affordable again, to bring down the prices of all goods."

    | ...
    | Government data, including from the Commerce Department
    | this week, show that prices rose in June on items heavily
    | exposed to tariffs, such as home furnishings, toys and
    | appliances.
    |
    | And in recent days -- before Mr. Trump announced tariffs
    | for much of the world on Thursday night -- Adidas, Procter
    | & Gamble, Stanley Black & Decker and other large
    | corporations told investors that they either had increased
    | prices or planned to do so soon to offset the tariff costs.
    | Companies like Walmart and the toymakers Hasbro and Mattel
    | had already warned that tariffs would lead to higher prices.
    | ... <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/02/business/trump-tariffs-consumer-prices.html>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sat Aug 2 09:17:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 13:43:58 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Beef prices at all-time high
    | ...
    <https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/07/22/beef-prices-record-highs/85325298007/>

    --bks


    "The USDA in May also halted live cattle imports from Mexico due to
    the spread of New World Screwworm, further limiting the U.S.'s supply
    and fueling price increases. The fly's parasitic larvae can cause
    "serious, often deadly" damage to animals, according to the USDA."

    You want Americans to eat bad beef???

    Damn...

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to -hh on Sat Aug 2 11:11:32 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 8/2/25 10:41, -hh wrote:
    On 8/2/25 09:17, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 13:43:58 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Beef prices at all-time high
    | ...
    <https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/07/22/beef-prices-record-
    highs/85325298007/>

        --bks


    "The USDA in May also halted live cattle imports from Mexico due to
    the spread of New World Screwworm, further limiting the U.S.'s supply
    and fueling price increases. The fly's parasitic larvae can cause
    "serious, often deadly" damage to animals, according to the USDA."

    Was the MX spread of screwworm because DOGE decided to cut off our eradication program to the south of our border?


    -hh


    FYI, citation provided in advance of waiting for "And NoBody" has fled.

    "Flesh-eating screwworms march north as DOGE cuts funding on everything
    we need to stop them

    SÉAMUS BELLAMY 6:00 AM THU MAY 15, 2025"

    <https://boingboing.net/2025/05/15/flesh-eating-screwworms-march-north-as-doge-cuts-funding-on-everything-we-need-to-stop-them.html>


    FAFO applies.


    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Aug 2 10:41:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 8/2/25 09:17, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 13:43:58 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Beef prices at all-time high
    | ...
    <https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/07/22/beef-prices-record-highs/85325298007/>

    --bks


    "The USDA in May also halted live cattle imports from Mexico due to
    the spread of New World Screwworm, further limiting the U.S.'s supply
    and fueling price increases. The fly's parasitic larvae can cause
    "serious, often deadly" damage to animals, according to the USDA."

    Was the MX spread of screwworm because DOGE decided to cut off our
    eradication program to the south of our border?


    -hh

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Aug 2 23:37:27 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2025-08-02, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 13:43:58 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Beef prices at all-time high
    | ... >><https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/07/22/beef-prices-record-highs/85325298007/>

    --bks

    Kroger® 80/20 Ground Beef Tray 3 LB 14.97

    You buy meat at a supermarket?
    Yuck.
    Find a local butcher.


    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
    -- Anne Frank

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to pothead on Sat Aug 2 20:16:11 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 8/2/25 7:37 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-02, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 13:43:58 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Beef prices at all-time high
    | ...
    <https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/07/22/beef-prices-record-highs/85325298007/>

    --bks

    Kroger® 80/20 Ground Beef Tray 3 LB 14.97

    You buy meat at a supermarket?
    Yuck.
    Find a local butcher.

    Most I've seen, the supermarket stuff is cleaner :-)

    LONG back there was a butcher shop with a big mural
    of pigs offering up sausages and ham-bones, chickens
    offering up eggs and drum-sticks, cows offering up
    steaks and burgers, on big plates. The effect was
    just kinda CREEPY somehow !

    Hmmmm ... if aliens capture humans for dinner, will
    they have a mural of people offering up people-parts
    and tasty babies on big plates ?

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