• It's Official; We're The Bad Guys

    From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 25 00:41:54 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | U.S. votes against U.N. resolution condemning Russia for
    | Ukraine war
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/02/24/united-nations-ukraine-russia-trump/>

    --bks

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  • From Mercy-a-lago@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 25 01:28:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    |
    | U.S. votes against U.N. resolution condemning
    Russia for
    | Ukraine war
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-
    security/2025/02/24/united-nation
    s-ukraine-russia-trump/>

    --bks


    Trump must be working Vlad wearing his new kneepads
    and sucking up a storm of Putin Penis.

    This is what happens when you get a DEI hire like
    Trump who is a rapist, coward, convicted felon,
    fraudster and shit eating deviant.

    It's offical. Supporting Trump is TREASON.

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  • From Craig Taylor@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 25 01:30:34 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    |
    | U.S. votes against U.N. resolution condemning
    Russia for
    | Ukraine war
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-
    security/2025/02/24/united-nation
    s-ukraine-russia-trump/>

    --bks


    Trump must be working Vlad wearing his new kneepads
    and sucking up a storm of Putin Penis.

    This is what happens when you get a DEI hire like
    Trump who is a rapist, coward, convicted felon,
    fraudster and shit eating deviant.

    It's offical. Supporting Trump is TREASON.



    tRUMP is a weak excuse for a man who is afraid of
    Putin. There are hundreds of tranny's who have
    bigger balls and are braver than Trump.

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  • From Radio Gnome@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Feb 25 08:11:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2/24/2025 7:41 PM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    |
    | U.S. votes against U.N. resolution condemning Russia for
    | Ukraine war
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/02/24/united-nations-ukraine-russia-trump/>

    --bks

    I can't think of a better way to achive peace than to poke your opponent
    with a toothless virtue signaling resolution offered up by a weak and
    worthless UN.

    On a more serious note, advancing such a resolution at this time is akin
    to malpractice as it undercuts peace efforts. The only rational
    conclusion one can come to is the UN wants this war to continue. We know
    the short little shitwork of Ukraine wants exactly that - it's in his
    financial interest. This is one of about 1000 reasons the UN is a
    pointless, worthless organization.

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  • From Radio Gnome@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Feb 25 09:52:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2/25/2025 9:28 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | U.S. votes against U.N. resolution condemning Russia for
    | Ukraine war

    Welcome to the Resistance,

    When "pay your fuckin' share" becomes abandonment of allies.

    If nationas predicate favor on others carrying the financial burden they
    aren't allies, they're welfare queens.

    _Financial Times_:
    |
    | America has turned on its friends
    |
    | Donald Trump's abandonment of allies is real and will endure
    | ...
    <https://www.ft.com/content/1511aa42-a9ad-4952-99c8-98bea07d0414>

    --bks

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Radio Gnome on Tue Feb 25 08:58:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <vpkfi2$1vqe0$[email protected]>,
    Radio Gnome <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2/24/2025 7:41 PM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    |
    | U.S. votes against U.N. resolution condemning Russia for
    | Ukraine war
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/02/24/united-nations-
    ukraine-russia-trump/>

    --bks

    I can't think of a better way to achive peace than to poke your opponent
    with a toothless virtue signaling resolution offered up by a weak and worthless UN.

    So you think it's a good thing Russia intentionally bombed schools and children's hospitals in Ukraine, and the US has a psychopathic leader
    who condones it.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 25 14:28:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | U.S. votes against U.N. resolution condemning Russia for
    | Ukraine war

    Welcome to the Resistance, _Financial Times_:
    |
    | America has turned on its friends
    |
    | Donald Trump's abandonment of allies is real and will endure
    | ...
    <https://www.ft.com/content/1511aa42-a9ad-4952-99c8-98bea07d0414>

    --bks

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  • From Radio Gnome@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 25 10:18:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2/25/2025 9:58 AM, super70s wrote:
    In article <vpkfi2$1vqe0$[email protected]>,
    Radio Gnome <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2/24/2025 7:41 PM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    |
    | U.S. votes against U.N. resolution condemning Russia for
    | Ukraine war
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/02/24/united-nations-
    ukraine-russia-trump/>

    --bks

    I can't think of a better way to achive peace than to poke your opponent
    with a toothless virtue signaling resolution offered up by a weak and
    worthless UN.

    So you think it's a good thing Russia intentionally bombed schools and children's hospitals in Ukraine,

    No, I don't. So, do you want peace or do you want more bombings? This nonsensical symbolic UN resolution does nothing to prevent further
    conflict. This war isn't going to resolve with a full Russian retreat
    without the US getting dragged in as a fighting partner. You ready for
    WWIII? Are *you* ready to take the battlefield yourself? Or are you one
    of these paper tigers who lets others do the fighting for you? Maybe
    instead of sending US troops into a meat grinder we take a different
    approach for a change.

    and the US has a psychopathic leader
    who condones it.

    Stupid comment noted.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Radio Gnome on Tue Feb 25 11:01:20 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Radio Gnome wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 2/25/2025 9:28 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | U.S. votes against U.N. resolution condemning Russia for
    | Ukraine war

    Welcome to the Resistance,

    When "pay your fuckin' share" becomes abandonment of allies.

    If nationas predicate favor on others carrying the financial burden they aren't allies, they're welfare queens.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/13/politics/fact-check-trump-nato/index.html

    Fact check: Debunking five false Trump claims about NATO

    Trump’s incendiary remarks contained a familiar false claim. His assertion
    about NATO allies supposedly having failed to pay “bills” is not true, as
    fact-checkers at CNN and elsewhere have pointed out for years.

    Trump has long claimed that various NATO members have failed to pay their
    “bills,” “dues” or “NATO fees,” that they “owe us a tremendous amount of
    money” or that they “owe NATO billions of dollars.”

    Facts First: All of these Trump claims are false. While a majority of NATO
    members do not meet the alliance’s target of each member spending a minimum
    of 2% of gross domestic product on defense, the 2% target is a “guideline”
    that does not create bills, debts or legal obligations if it is not met. In
    fact, the guideline doesn’t require payments to NATO or the US at all.
    Rather, it simply requires each country to spend on their own defense
    programs.

    Radio Gnome falls for Trump lies.

    Other Trump lies also debunked in that article.

    --
    Every man is as God made him, ay, and often worse.
    -- Miguel de Cervantes

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  • From Radio Gnome@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Tue Feb 25 11:41:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2/25/2025 11:01 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Radio Gnome wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 2/25/2025 9:28 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | U.S. votes against U.N. resolution condemning Russia for
    | Ukraine war

    Welcome to the Resistance,

    When "pay your fuckin' share" becomes abandonment of allies.

    If nationas predicate favor on others carrying the financial burden they
    aren't allies, they're welfare queens.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/13/politics/fact-check-trump-nato/index.html

    Fact check: Debunking five false Trump claims about NATO

    Trump’s incendiary remarks contained a familiar false claim. His assertion
    about NATO allies supposedly having failed to pay “bills” is not true, as
    fact-checkers at CNN and elsewhere have pointed out for years.

    Trump has long claimed that various NATO members have failed to pay their
    “bills,” “dues” or “NATO fees,” that they “owe us a tremendous amount of
    money” or that they “owe NATO billions of dollars.”

    Facts First: All of these Trump claims are false. While a majority of NATO
    members do not meet the alliance’s target of each member spending a minimum
    of 2% of gross domestic product on defense, the 2% target is a “guideline”
    that does not create bills, debts or legal obligations if it is not met. In
    fact, the guideline doesn’t require payments to NATO or the US at all.
    Rather, it simply requires each country to spend on their own defense
    programs.

    Radio Gnome falls for Trump lies.

    Other Trump lies also debunked in that article.


    What lies? Your own article backs me up. Our welching allies aren't
    paying thier fair share. Thanks for the backup.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Radio Gnome on Tue Feb 25 12:18:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Radio Gnome wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 2/25/2025 11:01 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Radio Gnome wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 2/25/2025 9:28 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | U.S. votes against U.N. resolution condemning Russia for
    | Ukraine war

    Welcome to the Resistance,

    When "pay your fuckin' share" becomes abandonment of allies.

    If nationas predicate favor on others carrying the financial burden they >>> aren't allies, they're welfare queens.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/13/politics/fact-check-trump-nato/index.html

    Fact check: Debunking five false Trump claims about NATO

    Trump’s incendiary remarks contained a familiar false claim. His assertion
    about NATO allies supposedly having failed to pay “bills” is not true, as
    fact-checkers at CNN and elsewhere have pointed out for years.

    Trump has long claimed that various NATO members have failed to pay their
    “bills,” “dues” or “NATO fees,” that they “owe us a tremendous amount of
    money” or that they “owe NATO billions of dollars.”

    Facts First: All of these Trump claims are false. While a majority of NATO
    ===================================
    members do not meet the alliance’s target of each member spending a minimum
    of 2% of gross domestic product on defense, the 2% target is a “guideline”
    that does not create bills, debts or legal obligations if it is not met. In
    fact, the guideline doesn’t require payments to NATO or the US at all.
    Rather, it simply requires each country to spend on their own defense >> programs.

    Radio Gnome falls for Trump lies.

    Other Trump lies also debunked in that article.
    ==============================

    What lies? Your own article backs me up. Our welching allies aren't
    paying thier fair share. Thanks for the backup.

    :-D Learn to read bwah.

    --
    You climb to reach the summit, but once there, discover that all roads
    lead down.
    -- Stanislaw Lem, "The Cyberiad"

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  • From BurfordTJustice@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 25 17:46:21 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2/25/2025 11:01 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Radio Gnome wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 2/25/2025 9:28 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | U.S. votes against U.N. resolution condemning Russia for
    | Ukraine war

    Welcome to the Resistance,

    When "pay your fuckin' share" becomes abandonment of allies.

    If nationas predicate favor on others carrying the financial burden
    they aren't allies, they're welfare queens.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/13/politics/fact-check-trump-nato/index
    .html

    Fact check: Debunking five false Trump claims about NATO

    Trump’s incendiary remarks contained a familiar false claim. His
    assertion about NATO allies supposedly having failed to pay
    “bills” is not true, as fact-checkers at CNN and elsewhere
    have pointed out for years.

    Trump has long claimed that various NATO members have failed to
    pay their “bills,” “dues” or “NATO fees,” that they
    “owe us a tremendous amount of money” or that they “owe NATO
    billions of dollars.”

    Facts First: All of these Trump claims are false. While a majority
    of NATO members do not meet the alliance’s target of each member
    spending a minimum of 2% of gross domestic product on defense, the
    2% target is a “guideline” that does not create bills, debts
    or legal obligations if it is not met. In fact, the guideline
    doesn’t require payments to NATO or the US at all. Rather, it
    simply requires each country to spend on their own defense
    programs.

    Radio Gnome falls for Trump lies.

    Other Trump lies also debunked in that article.


    What lies? Your own article backs me up. Our welching allies aren't
    paying thier fair share. Thanks for the backup.


    All Patriots are willing to die for Trump. He says his tariffs will mean
    no income taxes any more.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 1 12:29:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | What happened in the Oval Office on Friday -- the obviously
    | planned ambush of President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine
    | by President Trump and Vice President JD Vance -- was
    | something that had never happened in the nearly 250-year
    | history of this country: In a major war in Europe, our
    | president clearly sided with the aggressor, the dictator
    | and the invader against the democrat, the freedom fighter
    | and the invaded.
    | ... <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/28/opinion/trump-zelensky.html?unlocked_article_code=1.0k4.2sm8.ttZh4jwwqklU#>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sat Mar 1 09:42:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 12:29:22 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | What happened in the Oval Office on Friday -- the obviously
    | planned ambush of President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine
    | by President Trump and Vice President JD Vance -- was
    | something that had never happened in the nearly 250-year
    | history of this country: In a major war in Europe, our
    | president clearly sided with the aggressor, the dictator
    | and the invader against the democrat, the freedom fighter
    | and the invaded.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/28/opinion/trump-zelensky.html?unlocked_article_code=1.0k4.2sm8.ttZh4jwwqklU#>

    --bks

    Trump put a grifter in his place. Zelensky is so used to this country
    just handing him money that he was blown out of his boots by the
    events of yesterday.

    Personally I felt it was a bit harsh bt largely on target. This has
    to have an endgame and just handing him more money hasn't done a thing
    to further that.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 2 10:13:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | What happened in the Oval Office on Friday -- the obviously
    | planned ambush of President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine
    | by President Trump and Vice President JD Vance -- was
    | something that had never happened in the nearly 250-year
    | history of this country: In a major war in Europe, our
    | president clearly sided with the aggressor, the dictator
    | and the invader against the democrat, the freedom fighter
    | and the invaded.

    |
    | Sen. Lisa Murkowski delivered a scorching rebuke Saturday
    | of President Donald Trump's explosive exchange with
    | Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, a rare voice of
    | Republican dissent as party members lined up in support of
    | the president's increasingly combative relationship with
    | Ukraine.
    | ... <https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/01/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-lisa-murkowski-00206874>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Mar 2 09:35:15 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 10:13:05 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | What happened in the Oval Office on Friday -- the obviously
    | planned ambush of President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine
    | by President Trump and Vice President JD Vance -- was
    | something that had never happened in the nearly 250-year
    | history of this country: In a major war in Europe, our
    | president clearly sided with the aggressor, the dictator
    | and the invader against the democrat, the freedom fighter
    | and the invaded.

    |
    | Sen. Lisa Murkowski delivered a scorching rebuke Saturday
    | of President Donald Trump's explosive exchange with
    | Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, a rare voice of
    | Republican dissent as party members lined up in support of
    | the president's increasingly combative relationship with
    | Ukraine.
    | ...
    <https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/01/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-lisa-murkowski-00206874>

    --bks

    Laugher.

    What has our billions gotten anyone but more killing?

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Mar 2 17:03:46 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/2/25 09:35, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 10:13:05 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | What happened in the Oval Office on Friday -- the obviously
    | planned ambush of President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine
    | by President Trump and Vice President JD Vance -- was
    | something that had never happened in the nearly 250-year
    | history of this country: In a major war in Europe, our
    | president clearly sided with the aggressor, the dictator
    | and the invader against the democrat, the freedom fighter
    | and the invaded.

    |
    | Sen. Lisa Murkowski delivered a scorching rebuke Saturday
    | of President Donald Trump's explosive exchange with
    | Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, a rare voice of
    | Republican dissent as party members lined up in support of
    | the president's increasingly combative relationship with
    | Ukraine.
    | ...
    <https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/01/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-lisa-murkowski-00206874>

    --bks

    Laugher.

    What has our billions gotten anyone but more killing?

    Millions of lives saved, if you've paid any attention.

    -hh

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to -hh on Sun Mar 2 22:20:32 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2025-03-02, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 3/2/25 09:35, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 10:13:05 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | What happened in the Oval Office on Friday -- the obviously
    | planned ambush of President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine
    | by President Trump and Vice President JD Vance -- was
    | something that had never happened in the nearly 250-year
    | history of this country: In a major war in Europe, our
    | president clearly sided with the aggressor, the dictator
    | and the invader against the democrat, the freedom fighter
    | and the invaded.

    |
    | Sen. Lisa Murkowski delivered a scorching rebuke Saturday
    | of President Donald Trump's explosive exchange with
    | Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, a rare voice of
    | Republican dissent as party members lined up in support of
    | the president's increasingly combative relationship with
    | Ukraine.
    | ...
    <https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/01/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-lisa-murkowski-00206874>

    --bks

    Laugher.

    What has our billions gotten anyone but more killing?

    Millions of lives saved, if you've paid any attention.

    -hh

    Call it what it really is and that is a proxy war with the US against Russia. This is in EU backyard, not ours, and they should be the ones funding Ukraine if
    they desire to.
    And it looks like Trump, either on purpose or a side effect, has managed to
    get them to up the ante.


    --
    Pothead
    Liberalism is a mental disease.
    "The Bidens’ Influence Peddling Timeline" https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Mar 3 07:11:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 22:20:32 -0000 (UTC), pothead
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-03-02, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 3/2/25 09:35, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 10:13:05 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | What happened in the Oval Office on Friday -- the obviously
    | planned ambush of President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine
    | by President Trump and Vice President JD Vance -- was
    | something that had never happened in the nearly 250-year
    | history of this country: In a major war in Europe, our
    | president clearly sided with the aggressor, the dictator
    | and the invader against the democrat, the freedom fighter
    | and the invaded.

    |
    | Sen. Lisa Murkowski delivered a scorching rebuke Saturday
    | of President Donald Trump's explosive exchange with
    | Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, a rare voice of
    | Republican dissent as party members lined up in support of
    | the president's increasingly combative relationship with
    | Ukraine.
    | ...
    <https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/01/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-lisa-murkowski-00206874>

    --bks

    Laugher.

    What has our billions gotten anyone but more killing?

    Millions of lives saved, if you've paid any attention.

    -hh

    Call it what it really is and that is a proxy war with the US against Russia. >This is in EU backyard, not ours, and they should be the ones funding Ukraine if
    they desire to.
    And it looks like Trump, either on purpose or a side effect, has managed to >get them to up the ante.

    One also needs to do the math for how many lives have been lost by us
    funding this proxy war.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Mar 3 11:08:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/3/25 07:11, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 22:20:32 -0000 (UTC), pothead
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-03-02, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 3/2/25 09:35, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 10:13:05 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | What happened in the Oval Office on Friday -- the obviously
    | planned ambush of President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine
    | by President Trump and Vice President JD Vance -- was
    | something that had never happened in the nearly 250-year
    | history of this country: In a major war in Europe, our
    | president clearly sided with the aggressor, the dictator
    | and the invader against the democrat, the freedom fighter
    | and the invaded.

    |
    | Sen. Lisa Murkowski delivered a scorching rebuke Saturday
    | of President Donald Trump's explosive exchange with
    | Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, a rare voice of
    | Republican dissent as party members lined up in support of
    | the president's increasingly combative relationship with
    | Ukraine.
    | ...
    <https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/01/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-lisa-murkowski-00206874>

    --bks

    Laugher.

    What has our billions gotten anyone but more killing?

    Millions of lives saved, if you've paid any attention.

    -hh

    Call it what it really is and that is a proxy war with the US against Russia.
    This is in EU backyard, not ours, and they should be the ones funding Ukraine if
    they desire to.
    And it looks like Trump, either on purpose or a side effect, has managed to >> get them to up the ante.

    One also needs to do the math for how many lives have been lost by us
    funding this proxy war.

    Oddly, I wasn't referring to Ukraine at all. Do better.


    -hh

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 6 15:03:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | ...
    | In just a few minutes, the behavior of Donald Trump and J.
    | D. Vance created a brand-new stereotype for America: not
    | the quiet American, not the ugly American, but the brutal
    | American. Whatever illusions Europeans ever had about
    | Americans--whatever images lingered from old American
    | movies, the ones where the good guys win, the bad guys
    | lose, and honor defeats treachery--those are shattered.
    | Whatever fond memories remain of the smiling GIs who
    | marched into European cities in 1945, of the speeches that
    | John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan made at the Berlin Wall,
    | or of the crowds that once welcomed Barack Obama, those are
    | also fading fast
    | ... <https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/03/trump-and-vance-shattered-europes-illusions-about-america/681925/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK39zgS4S_LyhRDPtT2PkHX-A&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 10 14:11:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | In just a few minutes, the behavior of Donald Trump and J.
    | D. Vance created a brand-new stereotype for America: not
    | the quiet American, not the ugly American, but the brutal
    | American. Whatever illusions Europeans ever had about
    | Americans--whatever images lingered from old American
    | movies, the ones where the good guys win, the bad guys
    | lose, and honor defeats treachery--those are shattered.
    | Whatever fond memories remain of the smiling GIs who
    | marched into European cities in 1945, of the speeches that
    | John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan made at the Berlin Wall,
    | or of the crowds that once welcomed Barack Obama, those are
    | also fading fast

    |
    | There's Never Been a Better Time to Be Anti-American
    |
    | The nation's staunchest defenders are being betrayed.
    | ... <https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2025-03-10/it-s-never-been-a-better-time-to-be-anti-american>

    --bks

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  • From Pierre Delecto@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Mon Mar 10 10:47:39 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/10/2025 10:11 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | In just a few minutes, the behavior of Donald Trump and J.
    | D. Vance created a brand-new stereotype for America: not
    | the quiet American, not the ugly American, but the brutal
    | American. Whatever illusions Europeans ever had about
    | Americans--whatever images lingered from old American
    | movies, the ones where the good guys win, the bad guys
    | lose, and honor defeats treachery--those are shattered.
    | Whatever fond memories remain of the smiling GIs who
    | marched into European cities in 1945, of the speeches that
    | John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan made at the Berlin Wall,
    | or of the crowds that once welcomed Barack Obama, those are
    | also fading fast

    |
    | There's Never Been a Better Time to Be Anti-American
    |
    | The nation's staunchest defenders are being betrayed.
    | ... <https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2025-03-10/it-s-never-been-a-better-time-to-be-anti-american>

    --bks

    For democrats, nothing says "God Bless the USA" like:

    - endless wars
    - weak borders
    - tax increases
    - men in women's sports
    - men in women's bathrooms
    - killing the unborn
    - no bond release
    - failing schools
    - sanctuary cities
    - DEI

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  • From James Pendrick@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 11 01:15:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/10/2025 10:11 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | In just a few minutes, the behavior of Donald Trump and J.
    | D. Vance created a brand-new stereotype for America: not
    | the quiet American, not the ugly American, but the brutal
    | American. Whatever illusions Europeans ever had about
    | Americans--whatever images lingered from old American
    | movies, the ones where the good guys win, the bad guys
    | lose, and honor defeats treachery--those are shattered.
    | Whatever fond memories remain of the smiling GIs who
    | marched into European cities in 1945, of the speeches that
    | John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan made at the Berlin Wall,
    | or of the crowds that once welcomed Barack Obama, those are
    | also fading fast

    |
    | There's Never Been a Better Time to Be Anti-American
    |
    | The nation's staunchest defenders are being betrayed.
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2025-03-10/it-s-never-been-a
    -better-time-to-be-anti-american>

    --bks

    For democrats, nothing says "God Bless the USA" like:

    - endless wars
    - weak borders
    - tax increases
    - men in women's sports
    - men in women's bathrooms
    - killing the unborn
    - no bond release
    - failing schools
    - sanctuary cities
    - DEI


    tRUMP is a DEI hire. He's a man of appeasement and capitulation.

    I for one am happy that he's destroying our economy without telling us why.

    He is our intellectual superior we are not to question.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Mar 11 07:04:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 14:11:59 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | In just a few minutes, the behavior of Donald Trump and J.
    | D. Vance created a brand-new stereotype for America: not
    | the quiet American, not the ugly American, but the brutal
    | American. Whatever illusions Europeans ever had about
    | Americans--whatever images lingered from old American
    | movies, the ones where the good guys win, the bad guys
    | lose, and honor defeats treachery--those are shattered.
    | Whatever fond memories remain of the smiling GIs who
    | marched into European cities in 1945, of the speeches that
    | John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan made at the Berlin Wall,
    | or of the crowds that once welcomed Barack Obama, those are
    | also fading fast

    |
    | There's Never Been a Better Time to Be Anti-American
    |
    | The nation's staunchest defenders are being betrayed.
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2025-03-10/it-s-never-been-a-better-time-to-be-anti-american>

    --bks

    Paywalled trash.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 11 19:11:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | Rep. Jim Himes [D-CT]: Zelenskyy is watching 70,000 dead
    | Ukrainians. Missiles are slamming into hospitals. This is
    | what he's seeing, and he comes to the Oval Office, and a
    | reporter asks him why he's not wearing a suit. And the
    | effing VP wants him to say thank you...

    |
    | US added to human rights watchlist for 'narrowing' freedom
    | and now ranks near Serbia and Congo
    | ... <https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-added-human-rights-watchlist-204251549.html>

    --bks

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Mar 11 15:37:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/11/2025 3:11 PM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | Rep. Jim Himes [D-CT]: Zelenskyy is watching 70,000 dead
    | Ukrainians. Missiles are slamming into hospitals. This is
    | what he's seeing, and he comes to the Oval Office, and a
    | reporter asks him why he's not wearing a suit. And the
    | effing VP wants him to say thank you...

    |
    | US added to human rights watchlist for 'narrowing' freedom
    | and now ranks near Serbia and Congo
    | ... <https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-added-human-rights-watchlist-204251549.html>

    --bks

    CIVICUS....bwahahahahaa!!!!

    It's right up there with The WHO, UN, WEF and other left-wing lunatics
    that hate the US (but not our money).

    As if you need more, it's supported by organizations like the Open
    Society Foundations (founded by none other than George Soros) and the
    Ford Foundation.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Mar 12 07:24:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 19:11:14 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Rep. Jim Himes [D-CT]: Zelenskyy is watching 70,000 dead
    | Ukrainians. Missiles are slamming into hospitals. This is
    | what he's seeing, and he comes to the Oval Office, and a
    | reporter asks him why he's not wearing a suit. And the
    | effing VP wants him to say thank you...

    |
    | US added to human rights watchlist for 'narrowing' freedom
    | and now ranks near Serbia and Congo
    | ...
    <https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-added-human-rights-watchlist-204251549.html>

    --bks

    "�Restrictive executive orders, unjustifiable institutional cutbacks,
    and intimidation tactics through threatening pronouncements by senior
    officials in the administration are creating an atmosphere to chill
    democratic dissent, a cherished American ideal,� Tiwana added."

    Non-partisan my ass...

    It's called following the law.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Mar 13 07:09:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 07:24:40 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 19:11:14 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Rep. Jim Himes [D-CT]: Zelenskyy is watching 70,000 dead
    | Ukrainians. Missiles are slamming into hospitals. This is
    | what he's seeing, and he comes to the Oval Office, and a
    | reporter asks him why he's not wearing a suit. And the
    | effing VP wants him to say thank you...

    |
    | US added to human rights watchlist for 'narrowing' freedom
    | and now ranks near Serbia and Congo
    | ... >><https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-added-human-rights-watchlist-204251549.html> >>
    --bks

    "�Restrictive executive orders, unjustifiable institutional cutbacks,
    and intimidation tactics through threatening pronouncements by senior >officials in the administration are creating an atmosphere to chill >democratic dissent, a cherished American ideal,� Tiwana added."

    Non-partisan my ass...

    It's called following the law.

    And Bradley runs away.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 13 20:27:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | Rep. Jim Himes [D-CT]: Zelenskyy is watching 70,000 dead
    | Ukrainians. Missiles are slamming into hospitals. This is
    | what he's seeing, and he comes to the Oval Office, and a
    | reporter asks him why he's not wearing a suit. And the
    | effing VP wants him to say thank you...

    | US added to human rights watchlist for 'narrowing' freedom
    | and now ranks near Serbia and Congo

    |
    | President Donald Trump said that he thought that the
    | potential annexation of Greenland by the United States
    | would happen.
    | ... <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/13/trump-on-us-annexation-of-greenland-i-think-itll-happen.html>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Mar 14 07:12:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 20:27:16 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Rep. Jim Himes [D-CT]: Zelenskyy is watching 70,000 dead
    | Ukrainians. Missiles are slamming into hospitals. This is
    | what he's seeing, and he comes to the Oval Office, and a
    | reporter asks him why he's not wearing a suit. And the
    | effing VP wants him to say thank you...

    | US added to human rights watchlist for 'narrowing' freedom
    | and now ranks near Serbia and Congo

    |
    | President Donald Trump said that he thought that the
    | potential annexation of Greenland by the United States
    | would happen.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/13/trump-on-us-annexation-of-greenland-i-think-itll-happen.html>

    --bks

    And that would be bad why?

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Fri Mar 14 08:35:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    | Rep. Jim Himes [D-CT]: Zelenskyy is watching 70,000 dead
    | Ukrainians. Missiles are slamming into hospitals. This is
    | what he's seeing, and he comes to the Oval Office, and a
    | reporter asks him why he's not wearing a suit. And the
    | effing VP wants him to say thank you...

    | US added to human rights watchlist for 'narrowing' freedom
    | and now ranks near Serbia and Congo

    | President Donald Trump said that he thought that the
    | potential annexation of Greenland by the United States
    | would happen.
    | ... <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/13/trump-on-us-annexation-of-greenland-i-think-itll-happen.html>

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n804BwrNwQo

    Lawrence on Trump's 'vile, antisemitic' attack on Schumer: Trump's mind is
    gone. It is shattered.

    Nice to see someone peg Trump.

    In other news, economists see Trump's trade war as "insane".

    200% tariffs!!???

    --
    PIZZA!!

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Mar 14 07:32:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    | President Donald Trump said that he thought that the
    | potential annexation of Greenland by the United States
    | would happen.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/13/trump-on-us-annexation-of-greenland-i-think-itll-happen.html>

    --bks
    And that would be bad why?

    There is a group of countries including Canada, Denmark, and many
    Europeans which has a mutual defence clause. Invading Denmark
    would start a war between USA and them.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Mar 15 07:55:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 20:27:16 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | President Donald Trump said that he thought that the
    | potential annexation of Greenland by the United States
    | would happen.
    | ... >><https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/13/trump-on-us-annexation-of-greenland-i-think-itll-happen.html>

    If he were to annex Canada, it's thirteen provinces and territories
    would add 26 liberal senators and 57 liberal reps to the Congress.

    Of course, that will never happen. Trump's a deranged old man to whom the billionaires gave control of our gummint through a storm of disinformation and money. He's off his rocker.

    --
    Debian Hint #37: Want to download a package without installing it? Use
    'apt download <pkgname>' or 'aptitude download <pkgname>'.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Mar 15 09:28:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 07:12:43 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 20:27:16 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Rep. Jim Himes [D-CT]: Zelenskyy is watching 70,000 dead
    | Ukrainians. Missiles are slamming into hospitals. This is
    | what he's seeing, and he comes to the Oval Office, and a
    | reporter asks him why he's not wearing a suit. And the
    | effing VP wants him to say thank you...

    | US added to human rights watchlist for 'narrowing' freedom
    | and now ranks near Serbia and Congo

    |
    | President Donald Trump said that he thought that the
    | potential annexation of Greenland by the United States
    | would happen.
    | ... >><https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/13/trump-on-us-annexation-of-greenland-i-think-itll-happen.html>

    --bks

    And that would be bad why?

    And Bradley runs away.

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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Mar 15 10:14:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/14/2025 6:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 20:27:16 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | President Donald Trump said that he thought that the
    | potential annexation of Greenland by the United States
    | would happen.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/13/trump-on-us-annexation-of-greenland-i-think-itll-happen.html>

    If he were to annex Canada, it's thirteen provinces and territories
    would add 26 liberal senators and 57 liberal reps to the Congress.
    If Canada were to become the 51st state, only *two* liberal senators would be added.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Sat Mar 15 13:46:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Lou Bricano wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 3/14/2025 6:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 20:27:16 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | President Donald Trump said that he thought that the
    | potential annexation of Greenland by the United States
    | would happen.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/13/trump-on-us-annexation-of-greenland-i-think-itll-happen.html>

    If he were to annex Canada, it's thirteen provinces and territories
    would add 26 liberal senators and 57 liberal reps to the Congress.

    If Canada were to become the 51st state, only *two* liberal senators would be added.

    The governor is assuming each province would be a state.

    --
    Most people have two reasons for doing anything -- a good reason, and
    the real reason.

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Mar 19 22:29:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 20:27:16 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | President Donald Trump said that he thought that the
    | potential annexation of Greenland by the United States
    | would happen.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/13/trump-on-us-annexation-of-greenland-i-think-itll-happen.html>

    If he were to annex Canada, it's thirteen provinces and territories
    would add 26 liberal senators and 57 liberal reps to the Congress.

    LOL Maggats never think things through

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Mar 19 22:28:44 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    | President Donald Trump said that he thought that the
    | potential annexation of Greenland by the United States
    | would happen.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/13/trump-on-us-annexation-of-greenland-i-think-itll-happen.html>

    --bks
    And that would be bad why?

    Why would it be good?

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 23 10:44:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | Rep. Jim Himes [D-CT]: Zelenskyy is watching 70,000 dead
    | Ukrainians. Missiles are slamming into hospitals. This is
    | what he's seeing, and he comes to the Oval Office, and a
    | reporter asks him why he's not wearing a suit. And the
    | effing VP wants him to say thank you...

    | US added to human rights watchlist for 'narrowing' freedom
    | and now ranks near Serbia and Congo

    |
    | Autocrats roll back rights and rule of law -- and cite
    | Trump's example
    |
    | Trump's statements, policies and actions are providing
    | cover for attacks on LGBTQ+ rights, freedom of expression
    | and the rule of law around the world.
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/03/22/trump-orban-erdogan-lgbtq-democracy/>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 18 22:36:41 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Travel to the U.S. from almost everywhere is falling under
    | Trump
    |
    | Charts show the scale of a steep drop in visitors from key
    | countries and regions after President Donald Trump returned
    | to office.
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/18/us-tourism-travel-trump/>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sat Apr 19 10:26:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 22:36:41 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Travel to the U.S. from almost everywhere is falling under
    | Trump
    |
    | Charts show the scale of a steep drop in visitors from key
    | countries and regions after President Donald Trump returned
    | to office.
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/18/us-tourism-travel-trump/>

    --bks

    You mean because immigrants can't fly here and just stay???

    That's the whole idea.

    Duh.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 12:49:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | Travel to the U.S. from almost everywhere is falling under
    | Trump

    |
    | Norway launches scheme to lure top researchers away from US
    | universities
    |
    | Research council launches 100m kroner fund as Norwegian
    | government calls for the protection of academic freedom
    | ... <https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/apr/23/norway-launches-scheme-to-lure-top-researchers-away-from-us-universities>

    --bks

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Apr 26 17:21:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 22:36:41 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Travel to the U.S. from almost everywhere is falling under
    | Trump
    |
    | Charts show the scale of a steep drop in visitors from key
    | countries and regions after President Donald Trump returned
    | to office.
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/18/us-tourism-travel-trump/> >>
    --bks

    You mean because immigrants can't fly here and just stay???

    That's the whole idea.

    Duh.

    Due process is what protects everyone. Without it, one starts to falsely accuse & deport US citizens too.

    Case in point, this week ICE has deported three children who are US
    citizens and denied their families access to their lawyers.

    But wait, there’s more: one of these US citizen children has a rare form
    of cancer, and despite ICE being informed, that child was deported without their medication or access to their doctor.

    -hh

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 27 02:00:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    -hh <[email protected]> wrote in news:284335529.767398767.609600.recscuba_google-huntzinger.com@news.etern al-september.org:

    NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 22:36:41 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Travel to the U.S. from almost everywhere is falling under
    | Trump
    |
    | Charts show the scale of a steep drop in visitors from key
    | countries and regions after President Donald Trump returned
    | to office.
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/18/us-tourism-travel-tr
    ump/>

    --bks

    You mean because immigrants can't fly here and just stay???

    That's the whole idea.

    Duh.

    Due process is what protects everyone. Without it, one starts to
    falsely accuse & deport US citizens too.

    Case in point, this week ICE has deported three children who are US
    citizens and denied their families access to their lawyers.

    But wait, there’s more: one of these US citizen children has a rare
    form of cancer, and despite ICE being informed, that child was
    deported without their medication or access to their doctor.

    -hh


    WWJD.

    Who Would Jesus Deport...


    "When an alien lives with you in your land,
    do not mistreat him. The alien living with
    you must be treated as one of your native-
    born. Love him as yourself, for you were
    aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God."
    Leviticus 19:33-34

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 7 10:59:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | Travel to the U.S. from almost everywhere is falling under Trump

    |
    | Members of President Donald Trump's Cabinet said Tuesday
    | that while they look forward to the United States'
    | co-hosting next year's FIFA World Cup, they want to make
    | sure foreign visitors don't stay longer than they're
    | allowed.
    | ... <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-officials-warn-fifa-world-cup-visitors-not-overstay-visas-rcna205236>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Wed May 7 13:22:11 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vvfeeb$54s$[email protected]:

    | Travel to the U.S. from almost everywhere is falling under Trump

    |
    | Members of President Donald Trump's Cabinet said Tuesday
    | that while they look forward to the United States'
    | co-hosting next year's FIFA World Cup, they want to make
    | sure foreign visitors don't stay longer than they're
    | allowed.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-officials- warn-fifa-world-cup-visitors-not-overstay-visas-rcna205236>

    --bks


    The way Melania did..........

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Wed May 7 15:47:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
    | Travel to the U.S. from almost everywhere is falling under Trump
    |
    | Members of President Donald Trump's Cabinet said Tuesday
    | that while they look forward to the United States'
    | co-hosting next year's FIFA World Cup, they want to make
    | sure foreign visitors don't stay longer than they're
    | allowed.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-officials-
    warn-fifa-world-cup-visitors-not-overstay-visas-rcna205236>

    The way Melania did..........

    So, unless they marry an American and have
    an anchor baby...

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu May 8 07:32:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 7 May 2025 10:59:23 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Travel to the U.S. from almost everywhere is falling under Trump

    |
    | Members of President Donald Trump's Cabinet said Tuesday
    | that while they look forward to the United States'
    | co-hosting next year's FIFA World Cup, they want to make
    | sure foreign visitors don't stay longer than they're
    | allowed.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-officials-warn-fifa-world-cup-visitors-not-overstay-visas-rcna205236>

    --bks

    That's simply good policy. Leftie loons such as yourself whine about
    those sort of things.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue May 13 01:57:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 12 May 2025 21:19:35 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Heckuva job, Orange Tariffman:
    |
    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's return
    |
    | The world is more divided than ever, but there's still
    | something (nearly) everyone agrees on: The U.S. is unloved.
    | ... >><https://www.politico.eu/article/usa-popularity-collapse-worldwide-trum >>p-return/>

    --bks

    MAGA claims Biden and even Obama made the USA a laughingstock. Though obviously untrue, unlike Trump, they didn't make America hated.



    OBama got a Nobel Peace Prize.

    Trump gets a large Trump-Baby
    balloon greeting in every country he
    goes to.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW9zpEWexMY

    https://www.euronews.com/video/2018/11/11/baby-trump-balloon-flies-above- paris-protest

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  • From swampy@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Tue May 13 02:21:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote in news:XnsB2DDD55206BDA629555@ 185.151.15.160:

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 12 May 2025 21:19:35 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Heckuva job, Orange Tariffman:
    |
    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's return
    |
    | The world is more divided than ever, but there's still
    | something (nearly) everyone agrees on: The U.S. is unloved.
    | ... >>><https://www.politico.eu/article/usa-popularity-collapse-worldwide-
    trum
    p-return/>

    --bks

    MAGA claims Biden and even Obama made the USA a laughingstock. Though
    obviously untrue, unlike Trump, they didn't make America hated.



    OBama got a Nobel Peace Prize.

    Sure.
    And the secretary of of the Nobel committe said it
    was the worst decision ever.

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34277960>



    Trump gets a large Trump-Baby
    balloon greeting in every country he
    goes to.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW9zpEWexMY


    That's what happens when you cut off the teet suplying the money
    to countries that are corrupt.
    It's never going to be popular.

    https://www.euronews.com/video/2018/11/11/baby-trump-balloon-flies-
    above-
    paris-protest

    Yea.
    And I suppose you forgot about Obama's apology tour.

    <https://www.heritage.org/europe/report/barack-obamas-top-10-apologies- how-the-president-has-humiliated-superpower>

    Obama was a weak president and Biden was an even weaker one and corrupt
    as hell where I do not believe Obama was.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue May 13 07:29:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 12 May 2025 21:19:35 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Heckuva job, Orange Tariffman:
    |
    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's return
    |
    | The world is more divided than ever, but there's still
    | something (nearly) everyone agrees on: The U.S. is unloved.
    | ...
    <https://www.politico.eu/article/usa-popularity-collapse-worldwide-trump-return/>

    --bks

    Laughter.

    Yeah now they have to pay their own bills. My heart breaks.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to swampy on Tue May 13 13:06:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    swampy <[email protected]> wrote in news:6822ac99$4$16 $[email protected]:

    Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote in news:XnsB2DDD55206BDA629555@ 185.151.15.160:

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 12 May 2025 21:19:35 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Heckuva job, Orange Tariffman:
    |
    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's return
    |
    | The world is more divided than ever, but there's still
    | something (nearly) everyone agrees on: The U.S. is unloved.
    | ... >>>><https://www.politico.eu/article/usa-popularity-collapse-worldwide-
    trum
    p-return/>

    --bks

    MAGA claims Biden and even Obama made the USA a laughingstock.
    Though
    obviously untrue, unlike Trump, they didn't make America hated.



    OBama got a Nobel Peace Prize.

    Sure.
    And the secretary of of the Nobel committe said it
    was the worst decision ever.

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34277960>



    The vote was rigged, right?

    LOL!

    Trump claims Nobel Peace Prize is rigged against him
    Sept 23 2019 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/23/trump-nobel-peace-prize-1508484






    Trump gets a large Trump-Baby
    balloon greeting in every country he
    goes to.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW9zpEWexMY


    That's what happens when you cut off the teet suplying the money
    to countries that are corrupt.
    It's never going to be popular.


    Piss off America's friends, cozy up to
    our enemies, fall in love with Communist
    dictators, so much winning!




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Tue May 13 23:55:53 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    swampy <[email protected]> wrote in news:6822ac99$4$16

    OBama got a Nobel Peace Prize.

    Sure.
    And the secretary of of the Nobel committe said it
    was the worst decision ever.

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34277960>

    The vote was rigged, right?

    LOL!

    Trump claims Nobel Peace Prize is rigged against him
    Sept 23 2019 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/23/trump-nobel-peace-prize-1508484

    1. bamboo ballots

    2. magic thermostats

    3. ballots from NoKo coming into a port in Maine

    4. HUGO CHAVEZ

    5. satellites controlled from Italy switch votes



    Piss off America's friends, cozy up to
    our enemies, fall in love with Communist
    dictators, so much winning! >
    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they’re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/



    https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-on-chinas-xi-we-love-each-other/
    JANUARY 21, 2020


    "He's for China, I'm for the U.S., but other
    than that, we love each other."

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Gronk on Wed May 14 13:16:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Gronk <[email protected]d> wrote in
    news:1001b9a$2bbp5$[email protected]:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    swampy <[email protected]> wrote in news:6822ac99$4$16

    OBama got a Nobel Peace Prize.

    Sure.
    And the secretary of of the Nobel committe said it
    was the worst decision ever.

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34277960>

    The vote was rigged, right?

    LOL!

    Trump claims Nobel Peace Prize is rigged against him
    Sept 23 2019
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/23/trump-nobel-peace-prize-1508
    484

    1. bamboo ballots

    2. magic thermostats

    3. ballots from NoKo coming into a port in Maine

    4. HUGO CHAVEZ

    5. satellites controlled from Italy switch votes



    Piss off America's friends, cozy up to
    our enemies, fall in love with Communist
    dictators, so much winning! >
    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they’re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/



    https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-on-chinas-xi-we-love-each-other/ JANUARY 21, 2020


    "He's for China, I'm for the U.S., but other
    than that, we love each other."



    Trump hates China except when he loves China.




    Jan. 24 2020, Twitter:

    "China has been working very hard to contain the
    Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates
    their efforts and transparency. It will all work
    out well. In particular, on behalf of the American
    People, I want to thank President Xi!"



    Jan. 29, Remarks at signing ceremony for the
    United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement:

    "And, honestly, I think, as tough as this
    negotiation was, I think our relationship with
    China now might be the best it's been in a long,
    long time. And now it's reciprocal. Before, we
    were being ripped off badly. Now we have a
    reciprocal relationship, maybe even better than
    reciprocal for us."



    Jan. 30, Fox News interview:

    "China is not in great shape right now,
    unfortunately. But they're working very hard.
    We'll see what happens. But we're working
    very closely with China and other countries."



    Feb. 7, Remarks at North Carolina Opportunity
    Now Summit in Charlotte, N.C.:

    "I just spoke to President Xi last night, and,
    you know, we're working on the � the problem,
    the virus. It's a � it's a very tough situation.
    But I think he's going to handle it. I think he's
    handled it really well. We're helping wherever we
    can."


    Feb. 7, Twitter:

    "Just had a long and very good conversation by
    phone with President Xi of China. He is strong,
    sharp and powerfully focused on leading the
    counterattack on the Coronavirus. He feels they
    are doing very well, even building hospitals in
    a matter of only days � Great discipline is
    taking place in China, as President Xi strongly
    leads what will be a very successful operation.
    We are working closely with China to help!"


    Feb. 7, Remarks before Marine One departure:

    "Late last night, I had a very good talk with
    President Xi, and we talked about � mostly about
    the coronavirus. They're working really hard, and
    I think they are doing a very professional job.
    They're in touch with World � the World � World
    Organization. CDC also. We're working together.
    But World Health is working with them. CDC is
    working with them. I had a great conversation
    last night with President Xi. It's a tough
    situation. I think they're doing a very good
    job."



    Feb. 10, Fox Business interview:

    "I think China is very, you know, professionally
    run in the sense that they have everything under
    control," Trump said. "I really believe they are
    going to have it under control fairly soon. You
    know in April, supposedly, it dies with the hotter
    weather. And that's a beautiful date to look
    forward to. But China I can tell you is working
    very hard."


    Feb. 10, campaign rally in Manchester, N.H.:

    "I spoke with President Xi, and they�re working
    very, very hard. And I think it�s all going to
    work out fine."


    Feb. 18, remarks before Air Force One departure:

    "I think President Xi is working very hard. As you
    know, I spoke with him recently. He�s working really
    hard. It�s a tough problem. I think he�s going to
    do � look, I�ve seen them build hospitals in a short
    period of time. I really believe he wants to get that
    done, and he wants to get it done fast. Yes, I think
    he�s doing it very professionally."

    https://tinyurl.com/y7yzzxls

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 1 13:40:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's return

    |
    | It's Summer Vacation Time. Tourists Are Saying No to
    | America.
    |
    | Overseas travelers are demonstrating their ire at the U.S.
    | by taking their tourism dollars elsewhere
    | ... <https://www.wsj.com/business/its-summer-vacation-time-tourists-are-saying-no-to-america-753e1ddf>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Mon Jun 2 07:01:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 13:40:22 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's return

    |
    | It's Summer Vacation Time. Tourists Are Saying No to
    | America.
    |
    | Overseas travelers are demonstrating their ire at the U.S.
    | by taking their tourism dollars elsewhere
    | ...
    <https://www.wsj.com/business/its-summer-vacation-time-tourists-are-saying-no-to-america-753e1ddf>

    --bks

    Yawn.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 22 10:39:21 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's return

    |
    | A training camp for the Senegalese women's basketball team
    | in the US has been scrapped, with the West African nation's
    | prime minister saying he cancelled it because some of the
    | squad were denied US visas.
    | ...
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyq1evnd0go>

    --bks

    I feel safer already.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sun Jun 22 13:22:08 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:1038mgp$fks$1 @reader2.panix.com:

    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's return

    |
    | A training camp for the Senegalese women's basketball team
    | in the US has been scrapped, with the West African nation's
    | prime minister saying he cancelled it because some of the
    | squad were denied US visas.
    | ...
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyq1evnd0go>

    --bks

    I feel safer already.




    Remember when Bush ordered an
    inbound flight diverted back the UK
    because one of the passengers was
    Cat Stevens? You know, the "Morning
    Has Broken" popstar who converted to
    Islam, making him a per se terrorist...

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  • From Derek Nash@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Jun 22 13:01:39 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 6/22/2025 6:22 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:1038mgp$fks$1 @reader2.panix.com:

    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's return

    |
    | A training camp for the Senegalese women's basketball team
    | in the US has been scrapped, with the West African nation's
    | prime minister saying he cancelled it because some of the
    | squad were denied US visas.
    | ...
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyq1evnd0go>

    --bks

    I feel safer already.




    Remember when Bush ordered an
    inbound flight diverted back the UK
    because one of the passengers was
    Cat Stevens? You know, the "Morning
    Has Broken" popstar who converted to
    Islam, making him a per se terrorist...

    The plane was not diverted back to the UK. The plane, which was bound for Washington DC, was diverted to Maine, and Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens) was removed from the plane and put on another bound for the UK. The original flight then continued on to DC.

    Islam/Stevens is a terrorist. In 1989, when asked about the fatwa issued by "supreme leader" terrorist Ruhollah Khomeini against Salman Rushdie, Islam/Stevens replied, "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes it clear – if someone defames the prophet, then he must die." That's expressing support for terrorism, and he should never be allowed entry to the U.S. until he publicly renounces that view, which he never will do.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Derek Nash on Sun Jun 22 16:54:29 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Derek Nash wrote:
    Islam/Stevens is a terrorist. In 1989, when asked about the fatwa issued
    by "supreme leader" terrorist Ruhollah Khomeini against Salman Rushdie, Islam/Stevens replied, "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes it clear –
    if someone defames the prophet, then he must die." That's expressing
    support for terrorism, and he should never be allowed entry to the U.S.
    until he publicly renounces that view, which he never will do.


    The clown lives in the UK where he suffers the twin burdens of freedom
    of speech and freedom of religion. When asked to tolerate another as he
    has been tolerated he failed completely.

    The US should be open to everyone. We prove we are greater by tolerating
    the intolerable.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Derek Nash on Mon Jun 23 02:07:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Derek Nash <[email protected]> wrote in news:DiZ5Q.1624919$[email protected]:

    On 6/22/2025 6:22 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:1038mgp$fks$1
    @reader2.panix.com:

    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's return

    |
    | A training camp for the Senegalese women's basketball team
    | in the US has been scrapped, with the West African nation's
    | prime minister saying he cancelled it because some of the
    | squad were denied US visas.
    | ...
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyq1evnd0go>

    --bks

    I feel safer already.




    Remember when Bush ordered an
    inbound flight diverted back the UK
    because one of the passengers was
    Cat Stevens? You know, the "Morning
    Has Broken" popstar who converted to
    Islam, making him a per se terrorist...

    The plane was not diverted back to the UK. The plane, which was bound
    for Washington DC, was diverted to Maine, and Yusuf Islam (Cat
    Stevens) was removed from the plane and put on another bound for the
    UK. The original flight then continued on to DC.

    Islam/Stevens is a terrorist.


    Name his act of terrorism.


    In 1989, when asked about the fatwa
    issued by "supreme leader" terrorist Ruhollah Khomeini against Salman Rushdie, Islam/Stevens replied,


    So his act of terrorism is
    stating an OPINION about what
    the Quran says?


    "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes
    it clear – if someone defames the prophet, then he must die." That's expressing support for terrorism, and he should never be allowed entry
    to the U.S. until he publicly renounces that view, which he never will
    do.


    You know that the Bible itself
    calls for unbelievers to be killed,
    no?

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Jun 22 19:41:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes
    it clear – if someone defames the prophet, then he must die." That's
    expressing support for terrorism, and he should never be allowed entry
    to the U.S. until he publicly renounces that view, which he never will
    do.

    You know that the Bible itself
    calls for unbelievers to be killed,
    no?



    Not exactly. The Law of Moses only applies to Jews. Gentiles cannot
    violate any of its capital crimes. The Law of Noah does not have
    punishments for violations.

    Christianity adds two laws to Noah, which have no penalties: love god
    and love humanity.

    Only Islam has the goal to force all humanity to their laws, including
    capital crimes.

    --
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    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
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    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Derek Nash@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Jun 22 19:46:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 6/22/2025 7:07 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Derek Nash <[email protected]> wrote in news:DiZ5Q.1624919$[email protected]:

    On 6/22/2025 6:22 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:1038mgp$fks$1
    @reader2.panix.com:

    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's return

    |
    | A training camp for the Senegalese women's basketball team
    | in the US has been scrapped, with the West African nation's
    | prime minister saying he cancelled it because some of the
    | squad were denied US visas.
    | ...
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyq1evnd0go>

    --bks

    I feel safer already.




    Remember when Bush ordered an
    inbound flight diverted back the UK
    because one of the passengers was
    Cat Stevens? You know, the "Morning
    Has Broken" popstar who converted to
    Islam, making him a per se terrorist...

    The plane was not diverted back to the UK. The plane, which was bound
    for Washington DC, was diverted to Maine, and Yusuf Islam (Cat
    Stevens) was removed from the plane and put on another bound for the
    UK. The original flight then continued on to DC.

    Islam/Stevens is a terrorist.


    Name his act of terrorism.

    I did, right below. What the fuck is wrong with you? Next time, read the whole fucking post before running your mouth.



    In 1989, when asked about the fatwa
    issued by "supreme leader" terrorist Ruhollah Khomeini against Salman
    Rushdie, Islam/Stevens replied,


    So his act of terrorism is
    stating an OPINION about what
    the Quran says?

    No, fucktard. His advocacy of terrorism is in *agreeing* that Rushdie "must be killed." What the fuck is wrong with you?


    "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes
    it clear – if someone defames the prophet, then he must die." That's
    expressing support for terrorism, and he should never be allowed entry
    to the U.S. until he publicly renounces that view, which he never will
    do.


    You know that the Bible itself
    calls for unbelievers to be killed,
    no?
    So? I do not believe anything said in the bible.

    Now what? You stupidly thought you had me there — that you had a "gotcha!" You
    didn't.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Mon Jun 23 13:22:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103aesn$10ehq$1@dont- email.me:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes
    it clear – if someone defames the prophet, then he must die." That's
    expressing support for terrorism, and he should never be allowed entry
    to the U.S. until he publicly renounces that view, which he never will
    do.

    You know that the Bible itself
    calls for unbelievers to be killed,
    no?



    Not exactly. The Law of Moses only applies to Jews.


    So why are Christians in such a
    big rush to post the Ten Commandments
    everywhere?


    Gentiles cannot
    violate any of its capital crimes. The Law of Noah does not have
    punishments for violations.

    Christianity adds two laws to Noah, which have no penalties: love god
    and love humanity.

    Only Islam has the goal to force all humanity to their laws, including capital crimes.


    If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or
    your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly
    to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known,
    gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one
    end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to
    him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but
    kill him.
    Deuteronomy 13:7-12

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Derek Nash on Mon Jun 23 13:36:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Derek Nash <[email protected]> wrote in news:te36Q.1628371$[email protected]:

    On 6/22/2025 7:07 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Derek Nash <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:DiZ5Q.1624919$[email protected]:

    On 6/22/2025 6:22 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:1038mgp$fks$1
    @reader2.panix.com:

    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's >>>>>>>>>>>> | return

    |
    | A training camp for the Senegalese women's basketball team
    | in the US has been scrapped, with the West African nation's
    | prime minister saying he cancelled it because some of the
    | squad were denied US visas.
    | ...
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyq1evnd0go>

    --bks

    I feel safer already.




    Remember when Bush ordered an
    inbound flight diverted back the UK
    because one of the passengers was
    Cat Stevens? You know, the "Morning
    Has Broken" popstar who converted to
    Islam, making him a per se terrorist...

    The plane was not diverted back to the UK. The plane, which was
    bound for Washington DC, was diverted to Maine, and Yusuf Islam (Cat
    Stevens) was removed from the plane and put on another bound for the
    UK. The original flight then continued on to DC.

    Islam/Stevens is a terrorist.


    Name his act of terrorism.

    I did, right below. What the fuck is wrong with you? Next time, read
    the whole fucking post before running your mouth.



    Stevens was not the Yusef Islam that
    Bush banned, in fact he came back to the
    US for a tour in 2006.

    https://ticotimes.net/2014/09/15/yusufcat-stevens-back-with-album-rare- north-america-tour

    https://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/20/arts/yusuf-islam-steps-back-into-cat- stevenss-old-sound.html




    In 1989, when asked about the fatwa
    issued by "supreme leader" terrorist Ruhollah Khomeini against
    Salman Rushdie, Islam/Stevens replied,


    So his act of terrorism is
    stating an OPINION about what
    the Quran says?

    No, fucktard. His advocacy of terrorism is in *agreeing* that Rushdie
    "must be killed." What the fuck is wrong with you?


    He was asked what the Quran says,
    he relied by reciting what the Quran
    says.

    THAT is his "act of terrorism"?




    "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes
    it clear – if someone defames the prophet, then he must die."
    That's expressing support for terrorism, and he should never be
    allowed entry to the U.S. until he publicly renounces that view,
    which he never will do.


    You know that the Bible itself
    calls for unbelievers to be killed,
    no?
    So? I do not believe anything said in the bible.

    Now what? You stupidly thought you had me there — that you had a
    "gotcha!" You didn't.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Derek Nash@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Mon Jun 23 07:31:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 6/23/2025 6:36 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Derek Nash <[email protected]> wrote in news:te36Q.1628371$[email protected]:

    On 6/22/2025 7:07 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Derek Nash <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:DiZ5Q.1624919$[email protected]:

    On 6/22/2025 6:22 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:1038mgp$fks$1
    @reader2.panix.com:

    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's >>>>>>>>>>>>> | return

    |
    | A training camp for the Senegalese women's basketball team
    | in the US has been scrapped, with the West African nation's
    | prime minister saying he cancelled it because some of the
    | squad were denied US visas.
    | ...
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyq1evnd0go>

    --bks

    I feel safer already.




    Remember when Bush ordered an
    inbound flight diverted back the UK
    because one of the passengers was
    Cat Stevens? You know, the "Morning
    Has Broken" popstar who converted to
    Islam, making him a per se terrorist...

    The plane was not diverted back to the UK. The plane, which was
    bound for Washington DC, was diverted to Maine, and Yusuf Islam (Cat
    Stevens) was removed from the plane and put on another bound for the
    UK. The original flight then continued on to DC.

    Islam/Stevens is a terrorist.


    Name his act of terrorism.

    I did, right below. What the fuck is wrong with you? Next time, read
    the whole fucking post before running your mouth.



    Stevens was not the Yusef Islam that
    Bush banned,

    Bullshit. They are one and the same.

    in fact he came back to the
    US for a tour in 2006.

    https://ticotimes.net/2014/09/15/yusufcat-stevens-back-with-album-rare- north-america-tour

    https://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/20/arts/yusuf-islam-steps-back-into-cat- stevenss-old-sound.html




    In 1989, when asked about the fatwa
    issued by "supreme leader" terrorist Ruhollah Khomeini against
    Salman Rushdie, Islam/Stevens replied,


    So his act of terrorism is
    stating an OPINION about what
    the Quran says?

    No, fucktard. His advocacy of terrorism is in *agreeing* that Rushdie
    "must be killed." What the fuck is wrong with you?


    He was asked what the Quran says,
    he relied by reciting what the Quran
    says.

    THAT is his "act of terrorism"?

    He was not "instructing" what the Qur'an says, you fucking liar. He *agreed* with it. He *agreed* that Rushdie should be killed.





    "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes
    it clear – if someone defames the prophet, then he must die."
    That's expressing support for terrorism, and he should never be
    allowed entry to the U.S. until he publicly renounces that view,
    which he never will do.


    You know that the Bible itself
    calls for unbelievers to be killed,
    no?
    So? I do not believe anything said in the bible.

    Now what? You stupidly thought you had me there — that you had a
    "gotcha!" You didn't.
    <crickets>

    You're gutless.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Mon Jun 23 09:08:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Mitchell Holman wrote:

    So why are Christians in such a
    big rush to post the Ten Commandments
    everywhere?

    I am not. There are two or three Ten Commandments.

    As for Jesus, he summarised the entire Law in two clauses. That is what Christians should concentrate on. Christians almost always violate the
    second clause (love humanity).

    If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or
    your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly
    to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known,
    gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one
    end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to
    him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but
    kill him.
    Deuteronomy 13:7-12

    This only applies to Jews. I do not deny the Law of Moses can be rough,
    but only on Jews.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Mon Jun 23 09:10:15 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    He was asked what the Quran says,
    he relied by reciting what the Quran
    says.

    THAT is his "act of terrorism"?


    A foundation of american legal theory is actions can be crimes, words
    are not.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Derek Nash on Mon Jun 23 17:59:57 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Derek Nash <[email protected]> wrote in news:0zd6Q.490377$[email protected]:

    On 6/23/2025 6:36 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Derek Nash <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:te36Q.1628371$[email protected]:

    On 6/22/2025 7:07 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Derek Nash <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:DiZ5Q.1624919$[email protected]:

    On 6/22/2025 6:22 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:1038mgp$fks$1
    @reader2.panix.com:

    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | return

    |
    | A training camp for the Senegalese women's basketball team
    | in the US has been scrapped, with the West African nation's
    | prime minister saying he cancelled it because some of the
    | squad were denied US visas.
    | ...
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyq1evnd0go>

    --bks

    I feel safer already.




    Remember when Bush ordered an
    inbound flight diverted back the UK
    because one of the passengers was
    Cat Stevens? You know, the "Morning
    Has Broken" popstar who converted to
    Islam, making him a per se terrorist...

    The plane was not diverted back to the UK. The plane, which was
    bound for Washington DC, was diverted to Maine, and Yusuf Islam
    (Cat Stevens) was removed from the plane and put on another bound
    for the UK. The original flight then continued on to DC.

    Islam/Stevens is a terrorist.


    Name his act of terrorism.

    I did, right below. What the fuck is wrong with you? Next time, read
    the whole fucking post before running your mouth.



    Stevens was not the Yusef Islam that
    Bush banned,

    Bullshit. They are one and the same.


    "Homeland Security put him on a plane
    back to London, prompting a complaint
    over his deportation by Britain�s then
    Foreign Secretary Jack Straw to U.S.
    Secretary of State Colin Powell. It was an
    apparent case of ----> mistaken identity <----
    and Yusuf has since traveled to the U.S.
    without incident"

    https://www.telegram.com/story/news/local/north/2009/06/09/yusuf-takes- whimsical-look-at/51968280007/



    in fact he came back to the
    US for a tour in 2006.

    https://ticotimes.net/2014/09/15/yusufcat-stevens-back-with-album-rare
    - north-america-tour

    https://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/20/arts/yusuf-islam-steps-back-into-ca
    t- stevenss-old-sound.html



    Explain why the Bush admin corrected
    it's mistake and let him into the country
    for a tour in 2006.






    In 1989, when asked about the fatwa
    issued by "supreme leader" terrorist Ruhollah Khomeini against
    Salman Rushdie, Islam/Stevens replied,


    So his act of terrorism is
    stating an OPINION about what
    the Quran says?

    No, fucktard. His advocacy of terrorism is in *agreeing* that
    Rushdie "must be killed." What the fuck is wrong with you?


    He was asked what the Quran says,
    he relied by reciting what the Quran
    says.

    THAT is his "act of terrorism"?

    He was not "instructing" what the Qur'an says, you fucking liar. He
    *agreed* with it. He *agreed* that Rushdie should be killed.


    So?

    That is an OPINION about one British
    citizen from another British citizen.

    Since when does an OPINION amount
    to an act of terrism against America?







    "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes
    it clear – if someone defames the prophet, then he must die."
    That's expressing support for terrorism, and he should never be
    allowed entry to the U.S. until he publicly renounces that view,
    which he never will do.


    You know that the Bible itself
    calls for unbelievers to be killed,
    no?
    So? I do not believe anything said in the bible.

    Now what? You stupidly thought you had me there — that you had a
    "gotcha!" You didn't.
    <crickets>

    You're gutless.


    Even the Bush administration admitted
    they were wrong, why can't you?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Mon Jun 23 17:33:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103bu54$1c3r0$1@dont- email.me:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:

    So why are Christians in such a
    big rush to post the Ten Commandments
    everywhere?

    I am not. There are two or three Ten Commandments.

    As for Jesus, he summarised the entire Law in two clauses. That is what Christians should concentrate on. Christians almost always violate the
    second clause (love humanity).


    Jesus overturned no "Jewish" laws.



    If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or
    your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly
    to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known,
    gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one
    end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to
    him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but
    kill him.
    Deuteronomy 13:7-12

    This only applies to Jews. I do not deny the Law of Moses can be rough,
    but only on Jews.




    Then why is it in the Christian Bible?

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Jun 23 17:10:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 19:41:24 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Only Islam has the goal to force all humanity to their laws, including >>capital crimes.

    Not like the Crusades, hmmm?

    Not like American evangelists, eh?

    Reason enough to disparage it.

    Religion ain't just a priest thang.

    --
    Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off
    during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
    -- Dave Barry, "Sex and the Single Amoeba: What Every
    Teen Should Know"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Jun 23 14:35:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 19:41:24 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Only Islam has the goal to force all humanity to their laws, including
    capital crimes.

    Reason enough to disparage it.

    I do for reasons both religious and humane.

    I read the Koran. Every time Mohammed gets in trouble with a wife, he
    gets a revelation that he is right, and the wimmen should just obey.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Jun 23 15:21:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:

    As for Jesus, he summarised the entire Law in two clauses. That is what
    Christians should concentrate on. Christians almost always violate the
    second clause (love humanity).


    Jesus overturned no "Jewish" laws.

    The context is he was asked what is the most important of the Laws. He
    evades and rather than select one law, he summarises the entire Law.

    It was decided in Acts that Mosaic Law does not apply to gentiles. IN
    the Gospels Jesus keeps coming back to these ideas, so christians should
    think about this.

    Any Christian on the street will tell you it's ok to play football
    because Jesus rendered pigskin 'clean'. For that same reason,
    virtually every Hebrew dietary rule is canceled.

    Not Jesus. In Acts Peter has a revelatory dream in which he is told all
    unclean is clean. Cleanliness was ritual to keep Hebrew culture separate
    from the polytheists around them. This is the transition from a tribal
    religion to a religion for everyone.

    This only applies to Jews. I do not deny the Law of Moses can be rough,
    but only on Jews.

    Then why is it in the Christian Bible?

    Because the Pentateuch is.

    For Christians, the OT is history - Jesus' roots.

    Passages are interpretted as predicting Jesus hundreds or thousands of
    year BCE.

    Modern Fundamentalists otoh, pick and choose from the OT as needed to
    justify their breaking Jesus' rules.

    A focus of the Gospels is love all other humans. A simple idea. Almost
    never followed.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Tue Jun 24 01:50:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103cha8$1h7al$1@dont- email.me:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 19:41:24 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Only Islam has the goal to force all humanity to their laws, including
    capital crimes.

    Reason enough to disparage it.

    I do for reasons both religious and humane.

    I read the Koran. Every time Mohammed gets in trouble with a wife, he
    gets a revelation that he is right, and the wimmen should just obey.


    I like part about the talking tree.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Tue Jun 24 01:46:27 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103ck0k$1hsvl$[email protected]:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    As for Jesus, he summarised the entire Law in two clauses. That is
    what Christians should concentrate on. Christians almost always
    violate the second clause (love humanity).


    Jesus overturned no "Jewish" laws.

    The context is he was asked what is the most important of the Laws. He
    evades and rather than select one law, he summarises the entire Law.

    It was decided in Acts that Mosaic Law does not apply to gentiles. IN
    the Gospels Jesus keeps coming back to these ideas, so christians
    should think about this.

    Any Christian on the street will tell you it's ok to play football
    because Jesus rendered pigskin 'clean'. For that same reason,
    virtually every Hebrew dietary rule is canceled.

    Not Jesus. In Acts Peter has a revelatory dream in which he is told
    all unclean is clean. Cleanliness was ritual to keep Hebrew culture
    separate from the polytheists around them. This is the transition from
    a tribal religion to a religion for everyone.

    This only applies to Jews. I do not deny the Law of Moses can be
    rough, but only on Jews.

    Then why is it in the Christian Bible?

    Because the Pentateuch is.

    For Christians, the OT is history - Jesus' roots.

    Passages are interpretted as predicting Jesus hundreds or thousands of
    year BCE.

    Modern Fundamentalists otoh, pick and choose from the OT as needed to
    justify their breaking Jesus' rules.

    A focus of the Gospels is love all other humans. A simple idea. Almost
    never followed.


    All Christians are Cafeteria Christians,
    pulling out Bible portions they like as
    Divine Revelation and dismissing the rest
    as "ancient stories, not binding on us"

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Jun 24 01:53:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 13:22:16 +0000, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:103aesn$10ehq$1@dont- email.me:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes
    it clear – if someone defames the prophet, then he must die."
    That's expressing support for terrorism, and he should never be
    allowed entry to the U.S. until he publicly renounces that view,
    which he never will do.

    You know that the Bible itself
    calls for unbelievers to be killed,
    no?



    Not exactly. The Law of Moses only applies to Jews.


    So why are Christians in such a
    big rush to post the Ten Commandments
    everywhere?


    Gentiles cannot
    violate any of its capital crimes. The Law of Noah does not have
    punishments for violations.

    Christianity adds two laws to Noah, which have no penalties: love
    god and love humanity.

    Only Islam has the goal to force all humanity to their laws,
    including capital crimes.


    If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or
    your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly
    to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known,
    gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one
    end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to
    him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but
    kill him.
    Deuteronomy 13:7-12



    That applies only to converts to other religions, not the natives of
    other religions.



    Believe or die, that's the rule.





    Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

    Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD
    your God is giving you that some worthless
    rabble among you have led their fellow citizens
    astray by encouraging them to worship foreign
    gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts
    carefully. If you find it is true and can prove
    that such a detestable act has occurred among
    you, you must attack that town and completely
    destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the
    livestock.
    Deuteronomy 13:13-19

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Jun 24 12:04:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 01:53:31 +0000, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

    Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD
    your God is giving you that some worthless
    rabble among you have led their fellow citizens
    astray by encouraging them to worship foreign
    gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts
    carefully. If you find it is true and can prove
    that such a detestable act has occurred among
    you, you must attack that town and completely
    destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the
    livestock.
    Deuteronomy 13:13-19

    Not Christian doctrine.

    Deuteronomy is OT. Even the Jews ignore it these days.

    Then explain Gaza.

    --
    Over the shoulder supervision is more a need of the manager than the programming task.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Tue Jun 24 09:37:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 01:53:31 +0000, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

    Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD
    your God is giving you that some worthless
    rabble among you have led their fellow citizens
    astray by encouraging them to worship foreign
    gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts
    carefully. If you find it is true and can prove
    that such a detestable act has occurred among
    you, you must attack that town and completely
    destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the
    livestock.
    Deuteronomy 13:13-19

    Not Christian doctrine.

    Deuteronomy is OT. Even the Jews ignore it these days.

    Then explain Gaza.


    Land grab. The game the whole family can play.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Tue Jun 24 17:55:52 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103ek7e$24ffp$1@dont- email.me:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 01:53:31 +0000, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

    Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD
    your God is giving you that some worthless
    rabble among you have led their fellow citizens
    astray by encouraging them to worship foreign
    gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts
    carefully. If you find it is true and can prove
    that such a detestable act has occurred among
    you, you must attack that town and completely
    destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the
    livestock.
    Deuteronomy 13:13-19

    Not Christian doctrine.

    Deuteronomy is OT. Even the Jews ignore it these days.

    Then explain Gaza.


    Land grab. The game the whole family can play.




    God gave this land to us!

    No, our god gave this land to US!

    And the whole need to get involved
    in this religious squabble why, again?

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Tue Jun 24 11:11:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in news:103ek7e$24ffp$1@dont- email.me:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 01:53:31 +0000, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

    Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD
    your God is giving you that some worthless
    rabble among you have led their fellow citizens
    astray by encouraging them to worship foreign
    gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts
    carefully. If you find it is true and can prove
    that such a detestable act has occurred among
    you, you must attack that town and completely
    destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the
    livestock.
    Deuteronomy 13:13-19

    Not Christian doctrine.

    Deuteronomy is OT. Even the Jews ignore it these days.

    Then explain Gaza.


    Land grab. The game the whole family can play.




    God gave this land to us!

    No, our god gave this land to US!

    It is our manifest destiny.

    --
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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 25 11:54:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's >>>>>>>>>>>> | return

    |
    | Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him
    | with bald JD Vance meme
    |
    | A 21-year-old tourist has described the horrendous
    | treatment he allegedly received after being denied entry to
    | the USA due to a meme depicting JD Vance as bald being
    | found on his phone
    | ... <https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/world-news/man-refused-entry-us-border-31925059>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Jun 25 13:09:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 12:04:18 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:


    Deuteronomy is OT. Even the Jews ignore it these days.

    Then explain Gaza.

    Sure.

    The Hebrews and Philistines have been warring on each other for nearly
    5000 years. Why should they stop now?


    And why should America get involved?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu Jun 26 06:42:00 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 11:54:13 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's >>>>>>>>>>>>> | return

    |
    | Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him
    | with bald JD Vance meme
    |
    | A 21-year-old tourist has described the horrendous
    | treatment he allegedly received after being denied entry to
    | the USA due to a meme depicting JD Vance as bald being
    | found on his phone
    | ...
    <https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/world-news/man-refused-entry-us-border-31925059>

    --bks

    The story over and over uses the word "claimed" which means even they
    don't believe his silliness.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 26 10:51:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | RFK Jr. says U.S. will stop funding global vaccine group
    | over 'vaccine safety' issues
    | ... <https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/06/25/g-s1-74554/rfk-jr-vaccine-safety-gavi>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Jun 27 07:23:56 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 06:42:00 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 11:54:13 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | return

    |
    | Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him
    | with bald JD Vance meme
    |
    | A 21-year-old tourist has described the horrendous
    | treatment he allegedly received after being denied entry to
    | the USA due to a meme depicting JD Vance as bald being
    | found on his phone
    | ... >><https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/world-news/man-refused-entry-us-border-31925059>

    --bks

    The story over and over uses the word "claimed" which means even they
    don't believe his silliness.

    And Bradley runs away again.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Jun 27 07:23:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 10:51:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | RFK Jr. says U.S. will stop funding global vaccine group
    | over 'vaccine safety' issues
    | ...
    <https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/06/25/g-s1-74554/rfk-jr-vaccine-safety-gavi>

    --bks

    Why are we paying for the world?

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri Jun 27 17:51:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 13:09:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 12:04:18 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:


    Deuteronomy is OT. Even the Jews ignore it these days.

    Then explain Gaza.

    Sure.

    The Hebrews and Philistines have been warring on each other for nearly
    5000 years. Why should they stop now?


    And why should America get involved?


    Because now the Israelis have attacked Iran for reasons unconfirmed.


    Even more reason for America to NOT get involved.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Jun 28 08:47:25 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 07:23:33 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 10:51:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | RFK Jr. says U.S. will stop funding global vaccine group
    | over 'vaccine safety' issues
    | ... >><https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/06/25/g-s1-74554/rfk-jr-vaccine-safety-gavi>

    --bks

    Why are we paying for the world?

    Well Bradley?

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Jun 28 09:17:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 07:23:33 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 10:51:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | RFK Jr. says U.S. will stop funding global vaccine group
    | over 'vaccine safety' issues
    | ...
    <https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/06/25/g-s1-74554/rfk-jr-vaccine-safety-gavi>

    --bks

    Why are we paying for the world?

    Well Bradley?


    Measles is a free gift at Disneyworld.


    --
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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Jul 1 01:51:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:51:43 +0000, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 13:09:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 12:04:18 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:


    Deuteronomy is OT. Even the Jews ignore it these days.

    Then explain Gaza.

    Sure.

    The Hebrews and Philistines have been warring on each other for
    nearly 5000 years. Why should they stop now?


    And why should America get involved?


    Because now the Israelis have attacked Iran for reasons unconfirmed.


    Even more reason for America to NOT get involved.

    BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTT!

    Too late!


    America is famous for backing out
    of bad foreign policy deals.

    Israel is not our ally, we owe them
    nothing.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Jul 1 01:59:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:51:43 +0000, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 13:09:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 12:04:18 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:


    Deuteronomy is OT. Even the Jews ignore it these days.

    Then explain Gaza.

    Sure.

    The Hebrews and Philistines have been warring on each other for nearly >>>>> 5000 years. Why should they stop now?


    And why should America get involved?


    Because now the Israelis have attacked Iran for reasons unconfirmed.


    Even more reason for America to NOT get involved.

    BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTT!

    Too late!


    We can send Iran a dozen roses and a box of chocolates. That will mae it
    all better.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
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  • From Cune I. Form@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Tue Jul 1 17:43:50 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 7/1/2025 1:59 AM, chine.bleu wrote:

    We can send Iran a dozen roses and a box of chocolates. That will mae it
    all better.

    Or maybe a chocolate cake from a kosher bakery in Tel Aviv?

    Didn't that work for MacFarlane back in 1987?

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Jul 2 18:13:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 01:51:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:51:43 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote
    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 13:09:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote
    <snip>
    The Hebrews and Philistines have been warring on each other for
    nearly 5000 years. Why should they stop now?
    And why should America get involved?
    Because now the Israelis have attacked Iran for reasons
    unconfirmed.
    Even more reason for America to NOT get involved.
    BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTT!

    Too late!

    America is famous for backing out
    of bad foreign policy deals.

    TACO.

    Israel is not our ally, we owe them nothing.

    We disagree. Israel is both a foothold in, and a popular
    justification to continue to focus policy on, the oil rich middle east
    which also contains the Suez Canal.


    Israel may be a "foothold" or a "nexus"
    but they are not our ally.




    When America needed help in Afghanistan
    Israel offered none.

    When America needed help in the Iraq war
    Israel offered none.

    When America needed help in Grenada
    Israel offered none.

    When America needed help in hurricane Katrina
    Israel offered none.

    When America needed help in hurricane Harvey
    Israel offered none.

    When America needed help with 9/11 cleanup
    Israel offered none.

    When America needed help in killing Bin Laden
    Israel offered none.

    And as for their attack on USS Liberty, well.....

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 19 20:14:08 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Relatives of 82-year-old Allentown resident Luis Leon are
    | headed to a Guatemalan hospital Saturday in hopes of
    | reuniting with the man they say disappeared without a trace
    | into the American immigration system a month ago -- and
    | who, for a time, they thought was dead.
    |
    | The last time anyone in the family saw Leon was June 20,
    | when he went with his wife to a Philadelphia immigration
    | office to have his lost green card replaced.
    |
    | There, the family says, he was handcuffed by two officers,
    | who led him away without explanation. His wife, who speaks
    | little English, was left behind and kept in the building
    | for 10 hours until she was released to her granddaughter,
    | the family says.
    | ... <https://www.mcall.com/2025/07/18/luis-leon-allentown-grandfather-ice-guatemala/>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Jul 20 10:28:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 20:14:08 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Relatives of 82-year-old Allentown resident Luis Leon are
    | headed to a Guatemalan hospital Saturday in hopes of
    | reuniting with the man they say disappeared without a trace
    | into the American immigration system a month ago -- and
    | who, for a time, they thought was dead.
    |
    | The last time anyone in the family saw Leon was June 20,
    | when he went with his wife to a Philadelphia immigration
    | office to have his lost green card replaced.
    |
    | There, the family says, he was handcuffed by two officers,
    | who led him away without explanation. His wife, who speaks
    | little English, was left behind and kept in the building
    | for 10 hours until she was released to her granddaughter,
    | the family says.
    | ...
    <https://www.mcall.com/2025/07/18/luis-leon-allentown-grandfather-ice-guatemala/>

    --bks

    So the "Morning Call" reports everything the family says as pure fact
    and you swallow it whole.

    Laughter.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Mon Jul 21 07:40:08 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 7/21/2025 7:34 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    |
    | Migrants at a Miami immigration jail were shackled with
    | their hands tied behind their backs and made to kneel to
    | eat food from styrofoam plates "like dogs", according to a
    | report published on Monday into conditions at three
    | overcrowded south Florida facilities.
    | ... <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/21/migrants-miami-ice-jail-abuses>


    The cruelty *is* the point.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Mon Jul 21 11:08:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    | Migrants at a Miami immigration jail were shackled with
    | their hands tied behind their backs and made to kneel to
    | eat food from styrofoam plates "like dogs", according to a
    | report published on Monday into conditions at three
    | overcrowded south Florida facilities.
    | ... <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/21/migrants-miami-ice-jail-abuses>

    Degrading treatment by guards is commonplace in all three
    jails, the groups say. At the Krome North service processing
    center in west Miami, female detainees were made to use
    toilets in full view of men being held there, and were denied
    access to gender-appropriate care, showers, or adequate food.

    The jail was so far beyond capacity, some transferring
    detainees reported, that they were held for more than 24 hours
    in a bus in the parking lot. Men and women were confined
    together, and unshackled only when they needed to use the
    single toilet, which quickly became clogged.

    “The bus became disgusting. It was the type of toilet in which
    normally people only urinate but because we were on the bus
    for so long, and we were not permitted to leave it, others
    defecated in the toilet,” one man said.

    “Because of this, the whole bus smelled strongly of feces.”

    --
    Showing up is 80% of life.
    -- Woody Allen

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 21 14:34:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Migrants at a Miami immigration jail were shackled with
    | their hands tied behind their backs and made to kneel to
    | eat food from styrofoam plates "like dogs", according to a
    | report published on Monday into conditions at three
    | overcrowded south Florida facilities.
    | ... <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/21/migrants-miami-ice-jail-abuses>

    --bks

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  • From Arthur B@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Mon Jul 21 21:59:52 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Bradley K. Sherman wrote:

    |
    | Migrants at a Miami immigration jail were shackled with
    | their hands tied behind their backs and made to kneel to
    | eat food from styrofoam plates "like dogs", according to a
    | report published on Monday into conditions at three
    | overcrowded south Florida facilities.
    | ...
    <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/21/migrants-miami-ice-jai >l-abuses>

    --bks


    One day white rightist Trumper politicians will be treated like this and resistance will be met by caving their heads with the butt of a rifle.

    I'd like it to be tested on that subhuman insect Noem but shave her head
    first.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Jul 21 18:19:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 07:40:08 -0700, pothead <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 7/21/2025 7:34 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    |
    | Migrants at a Miami immigration jail were shackled with
    | their hands tied behind their backs and made to kneel to
    | eat food from styrofoam plates "like dogs", according to a
    | report published on Monday into conditions at three
    | overcrowded south Florida facilities.
    | ...
    <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/21/migrants-miami-ice-jail-abuses>


    The cruelty *is* the point.

    "Eighth Amendment

    "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
    nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."

    And courts under the 4th, 5th, and 6th have decided this applies to
    anyone arrested or detained, not just convicts.

    Why don't you go back home to Russia? I hear they're paying top ruble
    for front line infantry in Ukraine.

    Twenty five millions rubbles to the dollar.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 23 13:25:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | Migrants at a Miami immigration jail were shackled with
    | their hands tied behind their backs and made to kneel to
    | eat food from styrofoam plates "like dogs", according to a
    | report published on Monday into conditions at three
    | overcrowded south Florida facilities.

    |
    | U.S. deportees, freed from Salvadoran prison, describe
    | 'horror movie'
    |
    | Three Venezuelans, released last week from the Terrorism
    | Confinement Center, said they were repeatedly beaten and
    | denied access to lawyers.
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/07/22/salvador-cecot-detainee-describes-beatings/>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu Jul 24 07:08:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 13:25:36 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Migrants at a Miami immigration jail were shackled with
    | their hands tied behind their backs and made to kneel to
    | eat food from styrofoam plates "like dogs", according to a
    | report published on Monday into conditions at three
    | overcrowded south Florida facilities.

    |
    | U.S. deportees, freed from Salvadoran prison, describe
    | 'horror movie'
    |
    | Three Venezuelans, released last week from the Terrorism
    | Confinement Center, said they were repeatedly beaten and
    | denied access to lawyers.
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/07/22/salvador-cecot-detainee-describes-beatings/>

    --bks

    Paywalled garbage from the thief is noted.

    You know how illegals can avoid ending up in a prison right?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Jul 25 07:19:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 07:08:05 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 13:25:36 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Migrants at a Miami immigration jail were shackled with
    | their hands tied behind their backs and made to kneel to
    | eat food from styrofoam plates "like dogs", according to a
    | report published on Monday into conditions at three
    | overcrowded south Florida facilities.

    |
    | U.S. deportees, freed from Salvadoran prison, describe
    | 'horror movie'
    |
    | Three Venezuelans, released last week from the Terrorism
    | Confinement Center, said they were repeatedly beaten and
    | denied access to lawyers.
    | ... >><https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/07/22/salvador-cecot-detainee-describes-beatings/>

    --bks

    Paywalled garbage from the thief is noted.

    You know how illegals can avoid ending up in a prison right?

    And Bradley can't answer a simple question.

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