• about destructive consequences

    From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 16:10:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1

    The Kiev-controlled territory has now become a kind of concentration
    camp. Adult men above 17 y/o cannot leave, even turning transgender
    doesn't help men. Certain kinds of women also can not.

    The recent Zelensky's statement that those who dislike something can
    change citizenship is a sadistic joke, because most of those who would
    dream to leave (and forget it like a nightmare) simply have no options
    to do so. Nobody wants to be drafted to the army, draft officers are
    literally hunting people, men are hiding. Corruption flourishes under
    these conditions. Unofficial price-list on how much one has to pay to
    avoid conscription is an open secret. The men caught by draft officers
    are then often beaten / tortured at the recruiting stations, sometimes
    up to death, and when some of such cases become public, it would be
    officially a suicide or a sudden heart attack etc. Regular populace increasingly hate the regime and Zelensky personally. However, there's
    no way to somehow protest. Regime critics are quickly labeled Russian
    spies and arrested, or simply disappear without a trace.

    Any independent media doesn't exist. After the new US administration
    stopped USAID, about 90% of Ukrainian outlets that previuously
    declared themselves "independent" had to admit they cannot continue to
    function as before. While dictator Zelensky, some "western" officials
    speak as if on behalf of "Ukrainian people", the populace residing in
    the Kiev-controlled territory have no way to express what they really
    want and think, both because of fear and because of censorship.

    It's clear that in this situiation the popular approval of the regime
    and Zelenky personally is very low. But the regime of course promotes (near-)official data painting a rozy picture, but that is a forgery.
    The regime has no way to survive, it will become uglier and worse with
    each passing day.

    The Atlanticist-backed violent 2014 coup in Kiev was under pro-western
    slogans, but it was in fact anti-democratic, so it naturally raised
    destructive extremist forces and led to destructive consequences.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 18:44:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1

    <https://shorturl.at/tkCxK> kyivindependent.com

    Zelensky hopes Kellogg will visit front lines during trip to Ukraine

    ...

    It would be very recklessly for Kellogg to visit front lines. Given
    Zelensky is now in complete despair, he desperately needs something that
    might create an effect in his favor. They can stage a killing of Kellogg
    near the front lines and then claim the Russian military did it, and
    various other kinds of provocations / false flags can also happen.



    The Kiev-controlled territory has now become a kind of concentration
    camp. Adult men above 17 y/o cannot leave, even turning transgender
    doesn't help men. Certain kinds of women also can not.

    The recent Zelensky's statement that those who dislike something can
    change citizenship is a sadistic joke, because most of those who would
    dream to leave (and forget it like a nightmare) simply have no options
    to do so. Nobody wants to be drafted to the army, draft officers are literally hunting people, men are hiding. Corruption flourishes under
    these conditions. Unofficial price-list on how much one has to pay to
    avoid conscription is an open secret. The men caught by draft officers
    are then often beaten / tortured at the recruiting stations, sometimes
    up to death, and when some of such cases become public, it would be officially a suicide or a sudden heart attack etc. Regular populace increasingly hate the regime and Zelensky personally. However, there's
    no way to somehow protest. Regime critics are quickly labeled Russian
    spies and arrested, or simply disappear without a trace.

    Any independent media doesn't exist. After the new US administration
    stopped USAID, about 90% of Ukrainian outlets that previuously
    declared themselves "independent" had to admit they cannot continue to function as before. While dictator Zelensky, some "western" officials
    speak as if on behalf of "Ukrainian people", the populace residing in
    the Kiev-controlled territory have no way to express what they really
    want and think, both because of fear and because of censorship.

    It's clear that in this situiation the popular approval of the regime
    and Zelenky personally is very low. But the regime of course promotes (near-)official data painting a rozy picture, but that is a forgery.
    The regime has no way to survive, it will become uglier and worse with
    each passing day.

    The Atlanticist-backed violent 2014 coup in Kiev was under pro-western slogans, but it was in fact anti-democratic, so it naturally raised destructive extremist forces and led to destructive consequences.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Wed Feb 19 16:08:54 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    The Kiev-controlled territory has now become a kind of concentration
    camp. Adult men above 17 y/o cannot leave, even turning transgender
    doesn't help men. Certain kinds of women also can not.

    And Russian controlled territory is also a concentration camp with
    added bonus of Russian bombardment.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 20 03:21:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Siri Cruise, <news:vp5rqm$2gmsk$[email protected]>
    Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    The Kiev-controlled territory has now become a kind of concentration
    camp. Adult men above 17 y/o cannot leave, even turning transgender
    doesn't help men. Certain kinds of women also can not.

    And Russian controlled territory is also a concentration camp with
    added bonus of Russian bombardment.

    You should wash you cunt before posting, don't forget.



    --
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    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 21 09:42:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1

    <https://shorturl.at/3zeod> globaltimes.cn

    How does USAID use aid to interfere with and 'brainwash' recipients ..

    .. USAID has used foreign aid for more than half a century to carry out ideological infiltration and so-called "democratic reforms" in
    developing countries .. It is viewed by the US as a tool to maintain its hegemonic position and engage in geopolitical maneuvering. Agencies and organizations like the USAID are "white gloves" for this selfish and hypocritical approach .. The problems that the US has accumulated in its foreign aid efforts will ultimately harm the country itself ..

    USAID's ideological infiltration and interference in the internal
    affairs of other countries has been criticized and publicly condemned by multiple nations. "What we have learned about it now suggests that it
    was an agency for interfering in the internal affairs of other states
    and changing the regimes .. Russian Foreign Ministry .. commented ..

    "Many projects of the in USAID are aimed at cultivating so-called 'civil forces' or 'opinion leaders,' and through these aid recipients, they
    foster dissatisfaction and division in local societies ..

    As an infamous "white glove" of the US government, USAID had also
    repeatedly exploited its resources and influence to interfere in China's internal affairs, undermine stability in some regions in the country ..

    ...

    It's about "soft power" Atlanticist "liberal" style. The notable (and disgusting) fact is that in their low lust for meddling into internals
    of misc countries, they ultimately resorted to advancement of hateful narratives based on promotiopn of ethnic, religious etc hatreds. It's
    what should be considered a prohibited technique in the civilized world,
    but the Atlanticist political technologists are not squeamish to employ
    it, and they cover it by false rhetorics about democracy and freedom.

    The Ukraine is one of the cases, and that's the reason why a large part
    of this territory is in ruins now, and one can expect more ruins there
    (and elsewhere) if the Atlanticism continues this way.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 3 20:35:40 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1

    At the meeting with Trump and Vance, Zelensky has shown himself to
    be a spoiled wayward adolescent, and some liked it. Zelensky is used
    to other kind of nannies, like with Biden (past) and the European
    henhouse (present). He apparently has made a bet on the current
    European establishment (most of which continue to follow habitual
    agenda) and on the U.S.'s anti-Trump faction (which remains pretty
    strong). The habitual Atlanticist approach implies a use of powerful manipulation via affiliated MSM, and Zelensky fits this approach well
    given he is a professional clown. Abuse of manipulation naturally
    leads to wars, since if someone has no hope for a sane conversation
    then use of force remains the only option.



    The Kiev-controlled territory has now become a kind of concentration
    camp. Adult men above 17 y/o cannot leave, even turning transgender
    doesn't help men. Certain kinds of women also can not.

    The recent Zelensky's statement that those who dislike something can
    change citizenship is a sadistic joke, because most of those who would
    dream to leave (and forget it like a nightmare) simply have no options
    to do so. Nobody wants to be drafted to the army, draft officers are literally hunting people, men are hiding. Corruption flourishes under
    these conditions. Unofficial price-list on how much one has to pay to
    avoid conscription is an open secret. The men caught by draft officers
    are then often beaten / tortured at the recruiting stations, sometimes
    up to death, and when some of such cases become public, it would be officially a suicide or a sudden heart attack etc. Regular populace increasingly hate the regime and Zelensky personally. However, there's
    no way to somehow protest. Regime critics are quickly labeled Russian
    spies and arrested, or simply disappear without a trace.

    Any independent media doesn't exist. After the new US administration
    stopped USAID, about 90% of Ukrainian outlets that previuously
    declared themselves "independent" had to admit they cannot continue to function as before. While dictator Zelensky, some "western" officials
    speak as if on behalf of "Ukrainian people", the populace residing in
    the Kiev-controlled territory have no way to express what they really
    want and think, both because of fear and because of censorship.

    It's clear that in this situiation the popular approval of the regime
    and Zelenky personally is very low. But the regime of course promotes (near-)official data painting a rozy picture, but that is a forgery.
    The regime has no way to survive, it will become uglier and worse with
    each passing day.

    The Atlanticist-backed violent 2014 coup in Kiev was under pro-western slogans, but it was in fact anti-democratic, so it naturally raised destructive extremist forces and led to destructive consequences.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 3 22:06:24 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1

    <https://shorturl.at/2J4k3> unherd.com

    Donald Trump's heated confrontation with Ukraine's Zelensky at the
    White House on Friday has triggered a conspicuous lack of outrage
    from an increasingly hesitant Democratic Party. This uncharacteristic
    restraint speaks volumes about a fundamental recalibration .. the
    appetite for Ukraine support wanes ..

    Recent polling tells the story plainly enough .. The percentage of
    Americans who believe the US is doing "too much" to help Ukraine has skyrocketed from 7% to 41% (and to 62% among Republicans). Trust in
    Zelensky - a formerly-revered "secular saint" - has plummeted from
    72% to under 48%. The Democrats .. appear to have recognised a
    losing battle .. [Some marginal] protestations now sound hollow and disconnected from public sentiment ..

    This strategic retreat isn't limited to Ukraine policy. Amid record
    drops in approval for Congressional Democrats' performance, the
    party's leadership has grown similarly quiet on transgender
    protections .. This vacuum of opposition speaks to a deeper crisis
    of confidence within the party: having spent years telling jokes
    about "pee tapes" and portraying Trump as Putin's puppet, Democrats
    now find themselves unable ..

    ...



    <https://shorturl.at/3zeod>

    How does USAID use aid to interfere with ..

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 4 12:44:04 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1

    <https://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/articles/c70e65e8p51o>
    Zelensky has no intention of apologizing to Trump or expressing
    regret for what happened in the Oval Office .. He noted that it
    took him dozens of hours to get to the White House and that his
    visit was a sign of respect in itself .. Zelensky is undoubtedly
    a true master of communication, but he is also an artist ..
    .. He shook hands with reporters and took photos with them ..

    ...

    Those simple folks in the White House should rather be proud of
    the fact Messiah and True Leader of the Free World deigned to pay
    a visit to them.



    The Kiev-controlled territory has now become a kind of concentration
    camp. Adult men above 17 y/o cannot leave, even turning transgender
    doesn't help men. Certain kinds of women also can not.

    The recent Zelensky's statement that those who dislike something can
    change citizenship is a sadistic joke, because most of those who would
    dream to leave (and forget it like a nightmare) simply have no options
    to do so. Nobody wants to be drafted to the army, draft officers are
    literally hunting people, men are hiding. Corruption flourishes under
    these conditions. Unofficial price-list on how much one has to pay to
    avoid conscription is an open secret. The men caught by draft officers
    are then often beaten / tortured at the recruiting stations, sometimes
    up to death, and when some of such cases become public, it would be
    officially a suicide or a sudden heart attack etc. Regular populace
    increasingly hate the regime and Zelensky personally. However, there's
    no way to somehow protest. Regime critics are quickly labeled Russian
    spies and arrested, or simply disappear without a trace.

    Any independent media doesn't exist. After the new US administration
    stopped USAID, about 90% of Ukrainian outlets that previuously
    declared themselves "independent" had to admit they cannot continue to
    function as before. While dictator Zelensky, some "western" officials
    speak as if on behalf of "Ukrainian people", the populace residing in
    the Kiev-controlled territory have no way to express what they really
    want and think, both because of fear and because of censorship.

    It's clear that in this situiation the popular approval of the regime
    and Zelenky personally is very low. But the regime of course promotes
    (near-)official data painting a rozy picture, but that is a forgery.
    The regime has no way to survive, it will become uglier and worse with
    each passing day.

    The Atlanticist-backed violent 2014 coup in Kiev was under pro-western
    slogans, but it was in fact anti-democratic, so it naturally raised
    destructive extremist forces and led to destructive consequences.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 4 20:28:23 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1

    <https://shorturl.at/7ug2Q> rtn.com.ar

    Milei ordered breaking of diplomatic ties with Ukraine and deleted
    all his photos with Zelensky .. An earthquake in Argentine Foreign
    Ministry .. Milei decided to fully follow Donald Trump's strategy ..

    <https://shorturl.at/MFVse> bukimevieningi.lt

    Lithuania is the 1st European country to impose sanctions on the US

    Lithuania has .. decided to show the whole world that being a small
    country, it's possible to do great things and set an example for
    others .. Lithuania has decided to withdraw from sale the recently
    published Lithuanian-language book by US Vice President JD Vance,
    "Elegy of the Hillbilly" .. We are waiting for the US response ..

    ...

    Baltic tiger bites.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 4 17:52:07 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1

    Is Putin still on his knees sucking Trump's penis?

    Russian's are so gullible, and the men? No balls.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 4 22:06:56 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1

    <https://shorturl.at/LK9QC> thedailybeast.com

    Zelensky Attempts to Kiss Trump's Ring .. Zelensky has been forced
    to grovel to Donald Trump after the U.S. president kicked him out of
    the White House .. The Kiev regime dictator also reiterated his
    commitment to peace. He added that he's ready to sign a U.S. minerals
    deal .. He is now ready to work "fast" ..

    ...

    The shoddy clown has now noticeably fussed. However, he still hasn't apologized. Also, Zelensky reiterated some notorious talking points
    that are contrary to the Trump's peace strategy.

    It would be a humiliation for Trump to accept this nonsense.



    <https://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/articles/c70e65e8p51o>

    Zelensky has no intention of apologizing to Trump or expressing
    regret for what happened in the Oval Office .. He noted that it
    took him dozens of hours to get to the White House and that his
    visit was a sign of respect in itself .. Zelensky is undoubtedly
    a true master of communication ..

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 7 19:48:56 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1

    <https://news.am/eng/news/870445.html>

    Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to the Chief of Staff of the Ukrainian
    dictator, believes that Zelenskyy did not do anything wrong during
    his quarrel with US President Donald Trump at the White House
    recently, and the Kiev regime should not apologize to the US for this
    conflict. Podolyak said this in an interview with Le Point ..

    "He [Zelenskyy] was absolutely right both in form and content ..
    We [i.e. the regime] will not apologize for the alleged mistake that
    did not happen," said the adviser ..

    ...

    English-speaking MSM aren't enthusiastic to report this interview to
    a French magazine, despite the fact that Podolyak is within Top 5
    of the most top Zelensky's henchmen. In the recent days, propaganda
    of the regime tried its best to distort what happened at the meeting.
    In particular, they promoted AI-generated videos presenting Zelensky
    as a hero who is beatinig and humiliating Trump. Yet another one top functionarie of the regime, UK ambassador Zaluzhny, also made
    confrontational statements recently. It indicates the fact that the
    Trump's incentives on Kiev have not brought a result.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 8 10:56:25 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    <https://archive.is/yL1Ng> telegraph.co.uk

    10,000 Kiev regime troops at risk of encirclement .. Russian forces
    advance on vital supply line after US stops sharing intelligence
    with the regime ..

    ...

    British propaganda provides the highest quality misinterpretations.

    To those analysts who track the hostilities daily it was clear about
    * a week ago * that situation for regime troops in the Kursk area
    has become critical.

    For example, from pro-regime outlets:
    <https://shorturl.at/iAXTa> glavnoe.in.ua
    <https://shorturl.at/Jd9eY> tsn.ua

    It's not the first time when the regime's command does not give the
    troops a timely order to retreat in a clearly hopeless situation,
    which naturally results in higher losses and higher number of POWs.





    The Kiev-controlled territory has now become a kind of concentration
    camp. Adult men above 17 y/o cannot leave, even turning transgender
    doesn't help men. Certain kinds of women also can not.

    The recent Zelensky's statement that those who dislike something can
    change citizenship is a sadistic joke, because most of those who would
    dream to leave (and forget it like a nightmare) simply have no options
    to do so. Nobody wants to be drafted to the army, draft officers are literally hunting people, men are hiding. Corruption flourishes under
    these conditions. Unofficial price-list on how much one has to pay to
    avoid conscription is an open secret. The men caught by draft officers
    are then often beaten / tortured at the recruiting stations, sometimes
    up to death, and when some of such cases become public, it would be officially a suicide or a sudden heart attack etc. Regular populace increasingly hate the regime and Zelensky personally. However, there's
    no way to somehow protest. Regime critics are quickly labeled Russian
    spies and arrested, or simply disappear without a trace.

    Any independent media doesn't exist. After the new US administration
    stopped USAID, about 90% of Ukrainian outlets that previuously
    declared themselves "independent" had to admit they cannot continue to function as before. While dictator Zelensky, some "western" officials
    speak as if on behalf of "Ukrainian people", the populace residing in
    the Kiev-controlled territory have no way to express what they really
    want and think, both because of fear and because of censorship.

    It's clear that in this situiation the popular approval of the regime
    and Zelenky personally is very low. But the regime of course promotes (near-)official data painting a rozy picture, but that is a forgery.
    The regime has no way to survive, it will become uglier and worse with
    each passing day.

    The Atlanticist-backed violent 2014 coup in Kiev was under pro-western slogans, but it was in fact anti-democratic, so it naturally raised destructive extremist forces and led to destructive consequences.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?0JTQsNC90LjQu9C+0LI=?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 8 12:19:26 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    08.03.2025 10:56, Oleg Smirnov пишет:
    <https://archive.is/yL1Ng> telegraph.co.uk

    10,000 Kiev regime troops at risk of encirclement .. Russian forces
    advance on vital supply line after US stops sharing intelligence with
    the regime ..

    ...

    British propaganda provides the highest quality misinterpretations.

    To those analysts who track the hostilities daily it was clear about
    * a week ago * that situation for regime troops in the Kursk area
    has become critical.

    For example, from pro-regime outlets:
    <https://shorturl.at/iAXTa> glavnoe.in.ua
    <https://shorturl.at/Jd9eY> tsn.ua

    It's not the first time when the regime's command does not give the
    troops a timely order to retreat in a clearly hopeless situation,
    which naturally results in higher losses and higher number of POWs.

    Ты так за них распереживался. Они же не французы. Это их выбор,
    погибнуть за родину.

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  • From Dhu on Gate@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Tue Mar 11 06:04:15 2025
    XPost: alt.politics, alt.russian.z1

    On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:48:56 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    <https://news.am/eng/news/870445.html>

    Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to the Chief of Staff of the Ukrainian dictator, believes that Zelenskyy did not do anything wrong during
    his quarrel with US President Donald Trump at the White House
    recently, and the Kiev regime should not apologize to the US for this conflict. Podolyak said this in an interview with Le Point ..

    "He [Zelenskyy] was absolutely right both in form and content ..
    We [i.e. the regime] will not apologize for the alleged mistake that
    did not happen," said the adviser ..

    ...

    English-speaking MSM aren't enthusiastic to report this interview to
    a French magazine, despite the fact that Podolyak is within Top 5
    of the most top Zelensky's henchmen. In the recent days, propaganda
    of the regime tried its best to distort what happened at the meeting.
    In particular, they promoted AI-generated videos presenting Zelensky

    Yaya. They can belief what the want: there's no re-runs in realtime.

    Dhu


    as a hero who is beatinig and humiliating Trump. Yet another one top functionarie of the regime, UK ambassador Zaluzhny, also made
    confrontational statements recently. It indicates the fact that the
    Trump's incentives on Kiev have not brought a result.





    --
    Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais.
    C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
    Duncan Patton a Campbell

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 13 19:24:18 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    After the talks in Jeddah with the regime's henchmen, American
    top officials have said they were able to coerce Kiev dictator
    Zelensky to agree to a ceasefire. I think, it should be seen as
    some basically positive achievement. However, it all depends on
    various details behind the general statement.

    Logic of the Trump's team seems to be understandable: in order
    to start [any] talks it's necessary, at least, to stop shooting,
    as shooting does not contribute to a sober conversation.

    One should remember the context / background of the mess though.
    There were Minsk agreements before, with pretty similar logics,
    and those agreements were later brazenly sabotaged by Kiev under
    endorsement of its Atlanticist patrons. Since it's now "fool me
    twice" case, the Kremlin seems to be "skeptical" this time.

    Not so long ago, when the Atlanticism was still optimistic under
    the delusion "Kiev can win", some major European politicians
    (including those who were supposed to be guarantors of the Minsk
    Accords) admitted bluntly there was, from the beginning, no
    intention to comply with those Accords for real, but it was seen
    rather as a way to give the Kiev regime more time for military
    improvements.

    Now it's obvious that the deep-state-affiliated top politicians
    in Europe consider the current situation also this way. It gives
    Kiev more time, while we develop production of more weapons etc.
    The Trump admin may have different vision, still the Kremlin can
    not afford to ignore the destructive European encroachments.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Fri Mar 14 01:55:10 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vqv0rj$3gcas$1
    @os.motzarella.org:

    After the talks in Jeddah with the regime's henchmen, American
    top officials have said they were able to coerce Kiev dictator
    Zelensky to agree to a ceasefire. I think, it should be seen as
    some basically positive achievement. However, it all depends on
    various details behind the general statement.

    Logic of the Trump's team seems to be understandable: in order
    to start [any] talks it's necessary, at least, to stop shooting,
    as shooting does not contribute to a sober conversation.


    When Russia was invaded it did not
    seek a "ceasefire", it sought total
    expulsion of the invader.

    When America was invaded it did not
    seek a "ceasefire", it sought total
    expulsion of the invader.

    Why should Ukraine accept anything
    different?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?0JTQsNC90LjQu9C+0LI=?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 14 09:36:31 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    14.03.2025 5:20, % пишет:
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vqv0rj$3gcas$1
    @os.motzarella.org:

    After the talks in Jeddah with the regime's henchmen, American
    top officials have said they were able to coerce Kiev dictator
    Zelensky to agree to a ceasefire. I think, it should be seen as
    some basically positive achievement. However, it all depends on
    various details behind the general statement.

    Logic of the Trump's team seems to be understandable: in order
    to start [any] talks it's necessary, at least, to stop shooting,
    as shooting does not contribute to a sober conversation.


        When Russia was invaded it did not
    seek a "ceasefire", it sought total
    expulsion of the invader.

        When America was invaded it did not
    seek a "ceasefire", it sought total
    expulsion of the invader.

         Why should Ukraine accept anything
    different?



    when was the usa invaded

    Аmerica, not usa, stupid. Invaded by the Europeans.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?0JTQsNC90LjQu9C+0LI=?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 14 09:32:00 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    14.03.2025 4:55, Mitchell Holman пишет:
    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vqv0rj$3gcas$1 @os.motzarella.org:

    After the talks in Jeddah with the regime's henchmen, American
    top officials have said they were able to coerce Kiev dictator
    Zelensky to agree to a ceasefire. I think, it should be seen as
    some basically positive achievement. However, it all depends on
    various details behind the general statement.

    Logic of the Trump's team seems to be understandable: in order
    to start [any] talks it's necessary, at least, to stop shooting,
    as shooting does not contribute to a sober conversation.


    When Russia was invaded it did not
    seek a "ceasefire", it sought total
    expulsion of the invader.

    When America was invaded it did not
    seek a "ceasefire", it sought total
    expulsion of the invader.

    Native Americans are still seek total expulsion of the invaders, aren't
    they? Why should Native Americans accept anything different?

    Why should Ukraine accept anything
    different?




    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 14 20:43:45 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Mitchell Holman, <news:[email protected]>
    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vqv0rj$3gcas$1

    When Russia was invaded it did not
    seek a "ceasefire", it sought total
    expulsion of the invader.

    When America was invaded it did not
    seek a "ceasefire", it sought total
    expulsion of the invader.

    Why should Ukraine accept anything
    different?

    There's no "Ukraine" for starters. There's the Kiev regime,
    established after the 2014 violent coup, when few non-elected
    militant groups usurped power while ignoring interests of
    a significant part of the population. Thus, the Ukraine ended
    while the post-coup development started something different.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 14 20:54:43 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    %, <news:[email protected]>
    Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    Mitchell Holman, <news:[email protected]>
    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vqv0rj$3gcas$1

    When Russia was invaded it did not
    seek a "ceasefire", it sought total expulsion of the invader.

    When America was invaded it did not
    seek a "ceasefire", it sought total expulsion of the invader.

    Why should Ukraine accept anything
    different?

    There's no "Ukraine" for starters. There's the Kiev regime,
    established after the 2014 violent coup, when few non-elected
    militant groups usurped power while ignoring interests of
    a significant part of the population. Thus, the Ukraine ended
    while the post-coup development started something different.

    wrong

    <https://cutt.us/Yaawn>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Fri Mar 14 15:16:42 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 3/13/2025 9:24 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    After the talks in Jeddah with the regime's henchmen, American
    top officials have said they were able to coerce Kiev dictator
    Zelensky to agree to a ceasefire. I think, it should be seen as
    some basically positive achievement. However, it all depends on
    various details behind the general statement.

    Logic of the Trump's team seems to be understandable: in order to start [any] talks it's necessary, at least, to stop shooting,
    as shooting does not contribute to a sober conversation.

    If the U.S. provides Ukraine with enough things to shoot, which the U.S. absolutely should do, it could contribute to defeating the Russian filth altogether and forcing them out of Ukraine.

    Russia is filth. Russians are filth. All right-thinking people want to see tens of millions of dead Russians rotting in the streets and fields.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Sat Mar 15 01:30:25 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vr1ptn$1pad3$1
    @os.motzarella.org:

    Mitchell Holman, <news:[email protected]>
    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vqv0rj$3gcas$1

    When Russia was invaded it did not
    seek a "ceasefire", it sought total
    expulsion of the invader.

    When America was invaded it did not
    seek a "ceasefire", it sought total
    expulsion of the invader.

    Why should Ukraine accept anything
    different?

    There's no "Ukraine" for starters. There's the Kiev regime,
    established after the 2014 violent coup, when few non-elected
    militant groups usurped power while ignoring interests of
    a significant part of the population. Thus, the Ukraine ended
    while the post-coup development started something different.



    Ukraine is a country.

    Russia recognized it's independence
    in multiple treatries and agreements.

    Post for us your justification for
    Russia starting the war.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 09:16:28 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Lou Bricano, <news:dV1BP.102165$[email protected]>
    On 3/13/2025 9:24 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    If the U.S. provides Ukraine with enough things to shoot, which the U.S. absolutely should do, it could contribute to defeating the Russian filth altogether and forcing them out of Ukraine.

    Russia is filth. Russians are filth. All right-thinking people want to see tens of millions of dead Russians rotting in the streets and fields.

    This powerless rage exposes the very low moral ground.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 09:14:08 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Mitchell Holman, <news:[email protected]>
    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vr1ptn$1pad3$1

    There's no "Ukraine" for starters. There's the Kiev regime,
    established after the 2014 violent coup, when few non-elected
    militant groups usurped power while ignoring interests of
    a significant part of the population. Thus, the Ukraine ended
    while the post-coup development started something different.

    Ukraine is a country.

    Russia recognized it's independence
    in multiple treatries and agreements.

    Post for us

    Speak for yourself.
    Stop repeating mantra.
    Reread what I've already posted.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Sat Mar 15 13:22:28 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vr360m$2vlbj$1
    @os.motzarella.org:

    Mitchell Holman, <news:[email protected]>
    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vr1ptn$1pad3$1

    There's no "Ukraine" for starters. There's the Kiev regime,
    established after the 2014 violent coup, when few non-elected
    militant groups usurped power while ignoring interests of
    a significant part of the population. Thus, the Ukraine ended
    while the post-coup development started something different.

    Ukraine is a country.

    Russia recognized it's independence
    in multiple treatries and agreements.

    Post for us

    Speak for yourself.
    Stop repeating mantra.
    Reread what I've already posted.


    The question you deleted because
    you cannot answer it.


    Post for us your justification for
    Russia starting the war.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Mar 15 13:30:26 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 19:20:34 -0700, % <[email protected]> wrote:

    when was the usa invaded

    The War of 1812.



    And WWII.

    (Aleutians, Wake, Guam)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 18:10:57 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Mitchell Holman, <news:[email protected]>
    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vr360m$2vlbj$1

    Post for us

    Speak for yourself.
    Stop repeating mantra.
    Reread what I've already posted.

    The question you deleted because
    you cannot answer it.

    Mitchell Holman is a liar.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Sat Mar 15 10:03:26 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 3/14/2025 11:16 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    Lou Bricano, <news:dV1BP.102165$[email protected]>
    On 3/13/2025 9:24 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    If the U.S. provides Ukraine with enough things to shoot, which the U.S.
    absolutely should do, it could contribute to defeating the Russian filth
    altogether and forcing them out of Ukraine.

    Russia is filth. Russians are filth. All right-thinking people want to see >> tens of millions of dead Russians rotting in the streets and fields.

    This powerless rage

    No. Fuck off, Russian filth.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 10:03:20 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 3/14/2025 10:43 AM, Russian filth lied:

    Mitchell Holman, <news:[email protected]>
    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vqv0rj$3gcas$1

      When Russia was invaded it did not
    seek a "ceasefire", it sought total expulsion of the invader.

      When America was invaded it did not
    seek a "ceasefire", it sought total expulsion of the invader.

       Why should Ukraine accept anything
    different?

    There's no "Ukraine" for starters.

    That's a lie. Fuck off, Russian filth.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sat Mar 15 17:56:40 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote in news:XnsB2A3533D24571629555@ 185.151.15.190:

    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vr360m$2vlbj$1 @os.motzarella.org:

    Mitchell Holman, <news:[email protected]>
    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vr1ptn$1pad3$1

    There's no "Ukraine" for starters. There's the Kiev regime,
    established after the 2014 violent coup, when few non-elected
    militant groups usurped power while ignoring interests of
    a significant part of the population. Thus, the Ukraine ended
    while the post-coup development started something different.

    Ukraine is a country.

    Russia recognized it's independence
    in multiple treatries and agreements.

    Post for us

    Speak for yourself.
    Stop repeating mantra.
    Reread what I've already posted.


    The question you deleted because
    you cannot answer it.


    Post for us your justification for
    Russia starting the war.



    Well?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 16 02:16:08 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    After the talks in Jeddah with the regime's henchmen, American
    top officials have said they were able to coerce Kiev dictator
    Zelensky to agree to a ceasefire. I think, it should be seen as
    some basically positive achievement. However, it all depends on
    various details behind the general statement.

    .. destructive European encroachments ..

    For example <https://archive.is/jcJ9Q> (in French)

    As one could foresee, now the main obstacles to ceasefire are created
    by the British and the French. They are afraid to object to Trump
    directly, they simulate enthusiasm. One of the key components of their
    smart counter-Trump tactics is to bring the situation to absurdity
    through exaggerated (mis)interpretations and maximalist demands.

    The British and the French are linked to the Dems / deep state faction
    in the US, so that - within "western" intraspecific struggle - they
    are waging "hybrid war" against the Trump admin. One very recent
    manifestation of this war looks like this <https://is.gd/fHFjhK>. Note
    the American MSM have not reported the case.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Sun Mar 16 01:35:18 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vr51vh$hfno$1
    @os.motzarella.org:

    After the talks in Jeddah with the regime's henchmen, American
    top officials have said they were able to coerce Kiev dictator
    Zelensky to agree to a ceasefire. I think, it should be seen as
    some basically positive achievement. However, it all depends on
    various details behind the general statement.

    .. destructive European encroachments ..

    For example <https://archive.is/jcJ9Q> (in French)

    As one could foresee, now the main obstacles to ceasefire are created
    by the British and the French. They are afraid to object to Trump
    directly, they simulate enthusiasm. One of the key components of their
    smart counter-Trump tactics is to bring the situation to absurdity
    through exaggerated (mis)interpretations and maximalist demands.

    The British and the French are linked to the Dems / deep state faction
    in the US, so that - within "western" intraspecific struggle - they
    are waging "hybrid war" against the Trump admin. One very recent manifestation of this war looks like this <https://is.gd/fHFjhK>. Note
    the American MSM have not reported the case.




    Post for us your justification for
    Russia starting the war.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Mar 16 11:45:22 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 02:16:08 +0300, "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    After the talks in Jeddah with the regime's henchmen, American
    top officials have said they were able to coerce Kiev dictator
    Zelensky to agree to a ceasefire. I think, it should be seen as
    some basically positive achievement. However, it all depends on
    various details behind the general statement.

    .. destructive European encroachments ..

    For example <https://archive.is/jcJ9Q> (in French)

    As one could foresee, now the main obstacles to ceasefire are created
    by the British and the French. They are afraid to object to Trump
    directly, they simulate enthusiasm. One of the key components of their
    smart counter-Trump tactics is to bring the situation to absurdity
    through exaggerated (mis)interpretations and maximalist demands.

    The British and the French are linked to the Dems / deep state faction
    in the US, so that - within "western" intraspecific struggle - they
    are waging "hybrid war" against the Trump admin. One very recent
    manifestation of this war looks like this <https://is.gd/fHFjhK>. Note
    the American MSM have not reported the case.

    Everybody has an opinion. Even stupid French commies.

    Is Smirnov not a vodka? What causes the perpetual stupor and
    hopelessness of Russians?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Sun Mar 16 12:17:51 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    For example <https://archive.is/jcJ9Q> (in French)

    As one could foresee, now the main obstacles to ceasefire are created
    by the British and the French. They are afraid to object to Trump
    directly, they simulate enthusiasm. One of the key components of
    their

    It looks like Putin will have to special military operation
    Hungary to restore peace and democracy.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 16 23:59:17 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Siri Cruise, <news:vr7853$2ct0p$[email protected]>
    Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    As one could foresee, now the main obstacles to ceasefire are created
    by the British and the French. They are afraid to object to Trump
    directly, they simulate enthusiasm. One of the key components of
    their

    It looks like Putin will have to special military operation
    Hungary to restore peace and democracy.

    I'll talk with Putin tonight, pass your equinal opinion.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Sun Mar 16 17:51:59 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    Siri Cruise, <news:vr7853$2ct0p$[email protected]>
    Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    As one could foresee, now the main obstacles to ceasefire are
    created
    by the British and the French. They are afraid to object to
    Trump directly, they simulate enthusiasm. One of the key
    components of their

    It looks like Putin will have to special military operation
    Hungary to restore peace and democracy.

    I'll talk with Putin tonight, pass your equinal opinion.

    It must be frustrating I am out of reach of Putin's NKVD. No gulag
    for me.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X48uZMsbufI>

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 17 05:14:42 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Siri Cruise, <news:vr7rnk$2tig9$[email protected]>
    Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    It looks like Putin will have to special military operation
    Hungary to restore peace and democracy.

    I'll talk with Putin tonight, pass your equinal opinion.

    It must be frustrating I am out of reach of Putin's NKVD. No gulag
    for me.

    You are a boring pervert (with a smelly cunt).

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X48uZMsbufI>

    <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=walking+in+russia>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 17 07:04:50 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Siri Cruise, <news:vr84h4$356q9$[email protected]>
    Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    You are a boring pervert (with a smelly cunt).

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X48uZMsbufI>

    <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=walking+in+russia>

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y1_msjKAcA>
    Russian troops loot shops, homes in
    Kursk Oblast, some of them caught
    on camera

    Propaganda for idiots.

    Unidentifiable location, time, context etc,
    and the narrator tells much more than one may
    see.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Sun Mar 16 20:22:08 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    Siri Cruise, <news:vr7rnk$2tig9$[email protected]>
    Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    It looks like Putin will have to special military operation
    Hungary to restore peace and democracy.

    I'll talk with Putin tonight, pass your equinal opinion.

    It must be frustrating I am out of reach of Putin's NKVD. No
    gulag for me.

    You are a boring pervert (with a smelly cunt).

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X48uZMsbufI>

    <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=walking+in+russia>

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y1_msjKAcA>
    Russian troops loot shops, homes in
    Kursk Oblast, some of them caught
    on camera

    --
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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 17 07:27:59 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Siri Cruise, <news:vr885p$3bst7$[email protected]>
    Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=walking+in+russia>

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y1_msjKAcA>
    Russian troops loot shops, homes in
    Kursk Oblast, some of them caught
    on camera

    Propaganda for idiots.

    Unidentifiable location, time, context etc,
    and the narrator tells much more than one may
    see.

    Russians robbing Russians. Make excuses as you wish. I am not the
    one you are harming.

    You are a boring pervert.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Sun Mar 16 21:24:24 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    Siri Cruise, <news:vr84h4$356q9$[email protected]>
    Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    You are a boring pervert (with a smelly cunt).

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X48uZMsbufI>

    <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=walking+in+russia>

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y1_msjKAcA>
    Russian troops loot shops, homes in
    Kursk Oblast, some of them caught
    on camera

    Propaganda for idiots.

    Unidentifiable location, time, context etc,
    and the narrator tells much more than one may
    see.

    Russians robbing Russians. Make excuses as you wish. I am not the
    one you are harming.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Mon Mar 17 00:11:38 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    Siri Cruise, <news:vr885p$3bst7$[email protected]>
    Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=walking+in+russia>

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y1_msjKAcA>
    Russian troops loot shops, homes in
    Kursk Oblast, some of them caught
    on camera

    Propaganda for idiots.

    Unidentifiable location, time, context etc,
    and the narrator tells much more than one may
    see.

    Russians robbing Russians. Make excuses as you wish. I am not
    the one you are harming.

    You are a boring pervert.

    I am not responsible for what turns you on. Learn self control.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 17 17:30:13 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Siri Cruise, <news:vr8hva$3kb69$[email protected]>
    Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    You are a boring pervert.

    I am not responsible for what turns you on. Learn self control.

    Maria Pevchikh turns me on, while the your's is just unpleasant.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Mon Mar 17 18:26:31 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    "Oleg Smirnov" <[email protected]> wrote in news:vr9bop$amqf$1
    @os.motzarella.org:

    Siri Cruise, <news:vr8hva$3kb69$[email protected]>
    Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    You are a boring pervert.

    I am not responsible for what turns you on. Learn self control.

    Maria Pevchikh turns me on,


    Dead Ukrainians turn you on.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 18 17:18:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1, alt.politics

    <https://archive.is/hyPy3> bild.de (in German)

    Peter Porosenko, a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch, ruled the Kiev [Nazi]
    regime from the 2014 anti-democratic violent coup to 2019. Until now
    he remained a keeper of an intra-regime faction being apparently loyal
    to dictator Zelensky, but seeking to undermine him covertly. Zelensky
    subjected Porosenko to some repression, so that Porosenko was/is not
    allowed to leave the Kiev-controlled territory and his access to his
    assets had been frozen, some criminal cases are open.

    Today, Porosenko has gone on warpan when speaking to German [Nazi]
    outlet Bild. Poroshenko told about Zelensky: "He is an unfortunate
    leader of a team that is moving the nation toward dictatorship .." He
    described the Zelensky's means against himself as "attack on freedom
    and democracy .. I'm the only political leader, and the only
    opposition leader .. What is happening here is unconstitutional, it's
    illegal .. Zelensky wants to get rid of all competitors."

    Porosenko also spoke about the heavy military losses the Kiev regime
    is currently experiencing. Porosenko said: "We must immediately stop
    losing people and immediately stop .. We should forget "offensive
    operation" phrasings and immediately stop .. And we must immediately
    stop .. And we must immediately stop .."

    It's about the cracks inside the regime. The 2014 coup that allowed
    Porosenko to take the highest position in power was unconstitutional
    and illegal. So there is some irony about the Porosenko's claims.



    The Kiev-controlled territory has now become a kind of concentration
    camp. Adult men above 17 y/o cannot leave, even turning transgender
    doesn't help men. Certain kinds of women also can not.

    The recent Zelensky's statement that those who dislike something can
    change citizenship is a sadistic joke, because most of those who would
    dream to leave (and forget it like a nightmare) simply have no options
    to do so. Nobody wants to be drafted to the army, draft officers are literally hunting people, men are hiding. Corruption flourishes under
    these conditions. Unofficial price-list on how much one has to pay to
    avoid conscription is an open secret. The men caught by draft officers
    are then often beaten / tortured at the recruiting stations, sometimes
    up to death, and when some of such cases become public, it would be officially a suicide or a sudden heart attack etc. Regular populace increasingly hate the regime and Zelensky personally. However, there's
    no way to somehow protest. Regime critics are quickly labeled Russian
    spies and arrested, or simply disappear without a trace.

    Any independent media doesn't exist. After the new US administration
    stopped USAID, about 90% of Ukrainian outlets that previuously
    declared themselves "independent" had to admit they cannot continue to function as before. While dictator Zelensky, some "western" officials
    speak as if on behalf of "Ukrainian people", the populace residing in
    the Kiev-controlled territory have no way to express what they really
    want and think, both because of fear and because of censorship.

    It's clear that in this situiation the popular approval of the regime
    and Zelenky personally is very low. But the regime of course promotes (near-)official data painting a rozy picture, but that is a forgery.
    The regime has no way to survive, it will become uglier and worse with
    each passing day.

    The Atlanticist-backed violent 2014 coup in Kiev was under pro-western slogans, but it was in fact anti-democratic, so it naturally raised destructive extremist forces and led to destructive consequences.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 18 20:22:36 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    .. destructive European encroachments ..

    For example <https://archive.is/jcJ9Q> (in French)

    As one could foresee, now the main obstacles to ceasefire are created
    by the British and the French. They are afraid to object to Trump
    directly, they simulate enthusiasm. One of the key components of their
    smart counter-Trump tactics is to bring the situation to absurdity
    through exaggerated (mis)interpretations and maximalist demands.
    The British and the French are linked to the Dems / deep state faction
    in the US, so that - within "western" intraspecific struggle - they
    are waging "hybrid war" against the Trump admin. One very recent manifestation of this war looks like this <https://is.gd/fHFjhK>.

    One more example of British manipulation <https://shorturl.at/qrCWO>

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 8 09:50:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1

    <https://t.me/stranaua/191709?single>
    <https://t.me/stranaua/191707?single>
    <https://t.me/stranaua/190982?single>

    What the Kiev regime's conscription looks like.

    ...



    The Kiev-controlled territory has now become a kind of concentration
    camp. Adult men above 17 y/o cannot leave, even turning transgender
    doesn't help men. Certain kinds of women also can not.

    The recent Zelensky's statement that those who dislike something can
    change citizenship is a sadistic joke, because most of those who would
    dream to leave (and forget it like a nightmare) simply have no options
    to do so. Nobody wants to be drafted to the army, draft officers are literally hunting people, men are hiding. Corruption flourishes under
    these conditions. Unofficial price-list on how much one has to pay to
    avoid conscription is an open secret. The men caught by draft officers
    are then often beaten / tortured at the recruiting stations, sometimes
    up to death, and when some of such cases become public, it would be officially a suicide or a sudden heart attack etc. Regular populace increasingly hate the regime and Zelensky personally. However, there's
    no way to somehow protest. Regime critics are quickly labeled Russian
    spies and arrested, or simply disappear without a trace.

    Any independent media doesn't exist. After the new US administration
    stopped USAID, about 90% of Ukrainian outlets that previuously
    declared themselves "independent" had to admit they cannot continue to function as before. While dictator Zelensky, some "western" officials
    speak as if on behalf of "Ukrainian people", the populace residing in
    the Kiev-controlled territory have no way to express what they really
    want and think, both because of fear and because of censorship.

    It's clear that in this situiation the popular approval of the regime
    and Zelenky personally is very low. But the regime of course promotes (near-)official data painting a rozy picture, but that is a forgery.
    The regime has no way to survive, it will become uglier and worse with
    each passing day.

    The Atlanticist-backed violent 2014 coup in Kiev was under pro-western slogans, but it was in fact anti-democratic, so it naturally raised destructive extremist forces and led to destructive consequences.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Borax Man@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Tue Apr 8 09:00:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1

    ["Followup-To:" header set to talk.politics.misc.]
    On 2025-04-08, Oleg Smirnov <[email protected]> wrote: ><https://t.me/stranaua/191709?single>
    <https://t.me/stranaua/191707?single>
    <https://t.me/stranaua/190982?single>

    What the Kiev regime's conscription looks like.

    ...



    The Kiev-controlled territory has now become a kind of concentration
    camp. Adult men above 17 y/o cannot leave, even turning transgender
    doesn't help men. Certain kinds of women also can not.

    The recent Zelensky's statement that those who dislike something can
    change citizenship is a sadistic joke, because most of those who would
    dream to leave (and forget it like a nightmare) simply have no options
    to do so. Nobody wants to be drafted to the army, draft officers are
    literally hunting people, men are hiding. Corruption flourishes under
    these conditions. Unofficial price-list on how much one has to pay to
    avoid conscription is an open secret. The men caught by draft officers
    are then often beaten / tortured at the recruiting stations, sometimes
    up to death, and when some of such cases become public, it would be
    officially a suicide or a sudden heart attack etc. Regular populace
    increasingly hate the regime and Zelensky personally. However, there's
    no way to somehow protest. Regime critics are quickly labeled Russian
    spies and arrested, or simply disappear without a trace.

    Any independent media doesn't exist. After the new US administration
    stopped USAID, about 90% of Ukrainian outlets that previuously
    declared themselves "independent" had to admit they cannot continue to
    function as before. While dictator Zelensky, some "western" officials
    speak as if on behalf of "Ukrainian people", the populace residing in
    the Kiev-controlled territory have no way to express what they really
    want and think, both because of fear and because of censorship.

    It's clear that in this situiation the popular approval of the regime
    and Zelenky personally is very low. But the regime of course promotes
    (near-)official data painting a rozy picture, but that is a forgery.
    The regime has no way to survive, it will become uglier and worse with
    each passing day.

    The Atlanticist-backed violent 2014 coup in Kiev was under pro-western
    slogans, but it was in fact anti-democratic, so it naturally raised
    destructive extremist forces and led to destructive consequences.

    It seems to me that all that we've been doing the last year or no, is sacrificing tens of thousands of people to horrible deaths for no
    reason. The outcome of the war has already been decided some time ago.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 11 16:05:20 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1

    "The Maidan Massacre in the Ukraine" by Ivan Katchanovski

    Those who were interested about the Ukraine case in detail had,
    likely, heard this name. The Canadian academic issued analysis,
    articles on the topic since 2014. However, he seems to be little
    known in America. Recently he issued a book that summarises his
    research. Russian public already knows most of what Katchanovski
    has managed to dig out, because, besides him, other people did
    some research as well, but those people are even less known in
    the U.S. Specifically, for a regular American shit eater, this
    book is, surely, highly recommended.

    The web-page <https://tinyurl.com/224nzx88>, from where you can
    download the book.
    Direct link <https://tinyurl.com/2akdngve> (PDF, 10Mb)

    ...

    Open Access / This book is licensed under the terms of the
    Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/> ..





    <https://archive.is/j3B3a>

    Western audiences have been fed a steady diet of disinformation
    about the Ukraine for more than a decade. It is time to set the
    record straight on three key points ..

    It was Ukrainian right-wing militants who started the violence in
    2014 .. Zelensky contributed to a wider war by violating peace
    deals with Russia .. Zelensky had provoked ..

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 16:47:21 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1, alt.politics

    <https://t.me/stranaua/191709?single>
    <https://t.me/stranaua/191707?single>
    <https://t.me/stranaua/190982?single>

    What the Kiev regime's conscription looks like.


    Going AWOL is widespread among the Kiev regime troops. The
    regime official figure is about 100,000 while misc non-official
    analysts give an estimate two to three times higher. The number
    of AWOL cases had increased sharply since 2024 autumn. Besides,
    many go AWOL by agreement with their commanders. It means they
    simply pay the commander some money. In turn, commanders usually
    have some leverage to make it more difficult to find fugitives.
    Moreover, also, a widespread practice is when commanders simply
    do not report AWOLs. It costs conscripts more since some money
    will also be paid to higher commanders to make them blind to the
    fact that the factual number of staff in a unit is notably less
    than the nominal number. The moral of the story is, if you have
    no enough money, your will become dead or disabled faster.

    And besides the AWOL topic, many commanders resort to extortions
    from their subordinates. It may vary from "we need an unofficial
    mutual aid fund" to "it's because that's how it's done here, and
    I must pay the higher command, too". Someone who refuses to pay
    has more likelihood to be sent to a one-way mission.

    Traditional kind of military-related corruption - stealing some
    military property and selling it - also flourishes in the Kiev
    regime troops. While open selling munitions may be problematic,
    the most convenient thing is fuel. Analysts notice the fact that
    during the war, many relatives of military commanders managed to
    start their own - small and not so small - businesses, and one
    of the most typal kinds there is to run a petrol-station.

    Such corruption elements may be seen to some extent in any army,
    but in the Kiev regime case they are flourishing with especially
    magnificent ugliness due to the two basic reasons. The first is
    that the regime's ideological stance legitimizes many falsehoods
    and encourages animalistic urges among people. The second reason
    is that the regime's policy of conscription is based on a brutal
    coercion of de facto disenfranchised men who have no motivation.

    If martial law ends on the Kiev-controlled territory, then there
    will be a big lot of people willing to speak out about various
    abuses, injustices they were subjected to. And besides speaking,
    many will want revenge. Dictator Zelensky and his henchmen know
    they are themselves an integral part of the mass abuse, the only
    way for them is to keep it as long as possible, which
    contributes to their rejection of any realistic peace efforts.


    The Kiev-controlled territory has now become a kind of concentration
    camp. Adult men above 17 y/o cannot leave, even turning transgender
    doesn't help men. Certain kinds of women also can not.

    The recent Zelensky's statement that those who dislike something can
    change citizenship is a sadistic joke, because most of those who would
    dream to leave (and forget it like a nightmare) simply have no options
    to do so. Nobody wants to be drafted to the army, draft officers are
    literally hunting people, men are hiding. Corruption flourishes under
    these conditions. Unofficial price-list on how much one has to pay to
    avoid conscription is an open secret. The men caught by draft officers
    are then often beaten / tortured at the recruiting stations, sometimes
    up to death, and when some of such cases become public, it would be
    officially a suicide or a sudden heart attack etc. Regular populace
    increasingly hate the regime and Zelensky personally. However, there's
    no way to somehow protest. Regime critics are quickly labeled Russian
    spies and arrested, or simply disappear without a trace.

    Any independent media doesn't exist. After the new US administration
    stopped USAID, about 90% of Ukrainian outlets that previuously
    declared themselves "independent" had to admit they cannot continue to
    function as before. While dictator Zelensky, some "western" officials
    speak as if on behalf of "Ukrainian people", the populace residing in
    the Kiev-controlled territory have no way to express what they really
    want and think, both because of fear and because of censorship.

    It's clear that in this situiation the popular approval of the regime
    and Zelenky personally is very low. But the regime of course promotes
    (near-)official data painting a rozy picture, but that is a forgery.
    The regime has no way to survive, it will become uglier and worse with
    each passing day.

    The Atlanticist-backed violent 2014 coup in Kiev was under pro-western
    slogans, but it was in fact anti-democratic, so it naturally raised
    destructive extremist forces and led to destructive consequences.

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  • From Dhu on Gate@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Sat Apr 26 15:53:39 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics

    On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 16:47:21 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    The Atlanticist-backed violent 2014 coup in Kiev was under pro-western
    slogans, but it was in fact anti-democratic, so it naturally raised
    destructive extremist forces and led to destructive consequences.

    Boris Johnson is exemplary of what is behind this war: six centuries
    of the "Great Game" to prevent Russia from acquiring a "Warm Water Port".
    But the Wierld has changed and Russia has a functioning "Northern Sea Route"
    to China that's only gonna open wider, so the entire premise of the Game is
    an economic bogosity driven by an Elizabethan mentality.

    Dhu


    --
    Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais.
    C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris.
    Vix ea nostra voco. (<<< we'd like to forget! ;-)
    Duncan Patton a Campbell

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 27 17:15:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1

    <https://t.me/stranaua/191709?single>
    <https://t.me/stranaua/191707?single>
    <https://t.me/stranaua/190982?single>

    What the Kiev regime's conscription looks like.

    Many American and European politicians, ideologues and media writers
    continue to misrepresent the Ukraine case as "a duty to help" and the
    like, allegedly motivated by some high values ("democracy", "freedom"
    and all such fetishes). That's a bold hypocrisy, immorality. From the
    very start the case was dirty and deeply immoral.

    The 2014 violent coup in Kiev became possible only due to absolutely
    barbaric provocation when those radical pro-Western activists started
    to shoot to kill both the protesters and the police. In the post-USSR
    Ukraine politics, there were misc & many dirty tricks by pro-Western
    activism before, but that 2014 bloody provocation made a big change.
    Part of the Ukrainians that didn't support the insane attitude of the
    radical activists felt a non-illusory threat, since the bloody freaks
    have managed to get power in this way, and the plans they manifested
    were unacceptable.

    In Crimea and east-Ukraine there was a genuine grass-roots sentiment
    not to recognize the imposters. But the Atlanticist stance made the
    situation highly destructive. Atlanticism refused to notice the fact
    that the coup was illegitimate and illegal. Moreover, the post-coup
    moods in American and European political class were like a hungry cat
    sniffing fish. They absolutely ignored those Ukraine's citizens who
    refused to subjugate to the coup. MSM promoted false narratives: the
    violent coup was "revolution against a tyrant", those who are unhappy
    about this are all "Kremlin agents" while "people of the Ukraine" are
    all ardently "support the revolution". The Atlanticist scum were sure
    that - since they control most of the mass-media - they can lie with
    impunity. This stance stimulated east-Ukrainian separatism, as people understood they can not rely on anything other than Russia.

    Then, there were those "Minsk agreements", which could pave a way for
    a compromise settlement. But it turned simply a dirty trick once more.
    While the post-coup regime sabotaged implementation of the agreement, Atlanticist propaganda falsely shifted blame to Russia, and European participants later admitted they considered the Minks negotiation
    rather as a distraction intended to provide the Kiev regime with more
    time to strengthen itself. In deeed, besides this Atlanticist-backed
    foul political play there were increasingly ugly developments on the Kiev-controlled territory. In particular, fuller suppression of
    remnants of any skepticism and increasing stupefaction of populace by
    hateful propaganda (under guise of "democracy", of course).

    In general, one must be morally inferior to believe that by means of
    vile machinations, dirty tricks and big lies it's possible to achieve
    something good and nice. Once a dirty beginning produces then a dirty continuation. Schlimazel-clown Zelensky managed to get power mainly
    because he promised a reasonable compromise settlement. But he easily
    chose to betray his electoral promise after he was pressed by radical
    domestic minority supported by Atlanticist backers.

    Since I am a private person and not a decision maker, it's difficult
    for me to assess whether there was a way for the Kremlin to avoid use
    of military action against the Kiev regime. However, a private person
    can notice basic patterns. One basic pattern has been already noted:
    it's hardly possible to build socially something nice by machinations
    and lies. One more basic pattern is that one can not communicate with
    inanimate nature. If some cultist group becomes self-isolated within
    a bubble of their cultist wishful thinking, then the only way to deal
    with this group is to consider it an inanimate natural phenomenon. If
    an interlocutor imitates communication but its behavior doesn't match
    its messaging then at some moment it ceases to be an interlocutor and
    becomes an object of inanimate nature. And the only way to deal with
    inanimate nature is through physical impact. It's not recommended to
    abuse communication if you're not ready to be treated as an inanimate
    object. Or if you're not ready to treat your interlocutor this way.

    There's no paradox that the Atlanticist "liberal-progressive" faction
    has now become the most pro-war party. It's quite natural given the
    cultist quality of this faction in its current state - self-isolation
    within their delusion. The Trump-leaning part of American politicians
    seems to start understanding that support of the Kiev regime is not a
    promising field, and they do it not because they love Russia so much,
    but they seem to be more realistic. Of course it means some damage to
    America's image. However, the further it continues, the greater final
    damage will be (and nuking the US isn't something surely impossible).

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 28 07:20:43 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, can.politics

    Dhu on Gate, <news:vuivi2$1q0q8$[email protected]>
    On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 16:47:21 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    The Atlanticist-backed violent 2014 coup in Kiev was under pro-western >>>> slogans, but it was in fact anti-democratic, so it naturally raised
    destructive extremist forces and led to destructive consequences.

    Boris Johnson is exemplary of what is behind this war: six centuries
    of the "Great Game" to prevent Russia from acquiring a "Warm Water Port".
    But the Wierld has changed and Russia has a functioning "Northern Sea
    Route" to China that's only gonna open wider, so the entire premise of
    the Game is an economic bogosity driven by an Elizabethan mentality.

    Six centuries is too much. The British big animosity towards
    Russia arose in the post-Napoleonic time. The British were
    glad when Russian Cossacks entered Paris, but soon they were
    overwhelmed by morbid jealousy due to the fact that Russia
    became one of the key, if not the most important, architects
    of the post-Napoleonic order in mainland Europe. The Crimean
    War in the mid-19th century aimed to impose British order on
    Europe. One Englishman once said that things were good for
    Britain until it started interfering in the mainland Europe
    affairs. Incompetent British design in the longer run turned
    out untenable: fallout from the Crimean War naturally led to
    the WW1 and the subsequent destructive / catastrophic events.
    Ultimately, British Empire had itself collapsed too.

    In the worldwide context, Europe is much less important now
    compared to how important it was in the 19th century. So one
    can see the bigger picture, that namely the British jealousy
    towards Russia initiated a series of destructive events that
    undermined the Europe's global role as well as undermined the
    British Empire itself. This historical example illustrates
    the fact that too much obsession is not a productive feeling.

    Before the 19th century, there were no big issues between
    Britain and Russia. For a hundred years, since 1560s to mid-
    17th century, Britain was Russia's main trade partner among
    European states. At the time, Britain managed to develop
    its fleet largely due to getting necessary stuff from Russia.
    The trade cooperation still did not prevent king James-1
    from planning a conquest of Russia from the north during the
    Russia's "Time of Troubles" (but those Russia's troubles
    still didn't turn out badly enough to implement this plan).

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  • From Dhu on Gate@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Mon Apr 28 08:50:38 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, can.politics

    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 07:20:43 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    Dhu on Gate, <news:vuivi2$1q0q8$[email protected]>
    On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 16:47:21 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    The Atlanticist-backed violent 2014 coup in Kiev was under pro-western >>>>> slogans, but it was in fact anti-democratic, so it naturally raised
    destructive extremist forces and led to destructive consequences.

    Boris Johnson is exemplary of what is behind this war: six centuries
    of the "Great Game" to prevent Russia from acquiring a "Warm Water Port".
    But the Wierld has changed and Russia has a functioning "Northern Sea
    Route" to China that's only gonna open wider, so the entire premise of
    the Game is an economic bogosity driven by an Elizabethan mentality.

    Six centuries is too much. The British big animosity towards
    Russia arose in the post-Napoleonic time. The British were

    Over four hundred, anyways. Originally started up with
    Ivan the Terrible taxing/controlling Russian fur going *out*
    the Baltic to England and points further south: Big Money
    taken outta the English fur trade.

    But by the early 1600s there was as much fur coming out of
    Canada as all the Russias, and France and England fought
    over it's control for over three hundred years. New Amsterdam
    was *founded* on fur smuggled out of Quebec: the Arctic climate
    requisite for good fur comes south *furthest* in Canada.

    Dhu

    glad when Russian Cossacks entered Paris, but soon they were
    overwhelmed by morbid jealousy due to the fact that Russia
    became one of the key, if not the most important, architects
    of the post-Napoleonic order in mainland Europe. The Crimean
    War in the mid-19th century aimed to impose British order on
    Europe. One Englishman once said that things were good for
    Britain until it started interfering in the mainland Europe
    affairs. Incompetent British design in the longer run turned
    out untenable: fallout from the Crimean War naturally led to
    the WW1 and the subsequent destructive / catastrophic events.
    Ultimately, British Empire had itself collapsed too.

    In the worldwide context, Europe is much less important now
    compared to how important it was in the 19th century. So one
    can see the bigger picture, that namely the British jealousy
    towards Russia initiated a series of destructive events that
    undermined the Europe's global role as well as undermined the
    British Empire itself. This historical example illustrates
    the fact that too much obsession is not a productive feeling.

    Before the 19th century, there were no big issues between
    Britain and Russia. For a hundred years, since 1560s to mid-
    17th century, Britain was Russia's main trade partner among
    European states. At the time, Britain managed to develop
    its fleet largely due to getting necessary stuff from Russia.
    The trade cooperation still did not prevent king James-1
    from planning a conquest of Russia from the north during the
    Russia's "Time of Troubles" (but those Russia's troubles
    still didn't turn out badly enough to implement this plan).





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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 28 16:24:53 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, can.politics

    Dhu on Gate, <news:vunfgu$1velj$[email protected]>
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 07:20:43 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    Six centuries is too much. The British big animosity towards
    Russia arose in the post-Napoleonic time.

    Over four hundred, anyways. Originally started up with
    Ivan the Terrible taxing/controlling Russian fur going *out*
    the Baltic to England and points further south: Big Money
    taken outta the English fur trade.

    ...

    But by the early 1600s there was as much fur coming out of
    Canada as all the Russias, and France and England fought
    over it's control for over three hundred years. New Amsterdam
    was *founded* on fur smuggled out of Quebec: the Arctic climate
    requisite for good fur comes south *furthest* in Canada.

    Little known today, but in the 16-18 centuries, in Europe, the
    Russian-produced leather was considered premium-exclusive luxury
    good (Westerners mastered similar techniques since 19 century).

    Also the early Russia-England trade wasn't about fur only.

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  • From Dhu on Gate@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Mon Apr 28 19:19:09 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.politics, can.politics

    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:24:53 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    Dhu on Gate, <news:vunfgu$1velj$[email protected]>
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 07:20:43 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    Six centuries is too much. The British big animosity towards
    Russia arose in the post-Napoleonic time.

    Over four hundred, anyways. Originally started up with
    Ivan the Terrible taxing/controlling Russian fur going *out*
    the Baltic to England and points further south: Big Money
    taken outta the English fur trade.

    ...

    But by the early 1600s there was as much fur coming out of
    Canada as all the Russias, and France and England fought
    over it's control for over three hundred years. New Amsterdam
    was *founded* on fur smuggled out of Quebec: the Arctic climate
    requisite for good fur comes south *furthest* in Canada.

    Little known today, but in the 16-18 centuries, in Europe, the Russian-produced leather was considered premium-exclusive luxury
    good (Westerners mastered similar techniques since 19 century).


    Automating/mechanizing these production technologies was an English
    forte: *Imitation* Italian or Russian goods made by machines.
    Intellectual Property was a delusion to England's Pirates ;-)

    Dhu

    Also the early Russia-England trade wasn't about fur only.


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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 29 16:29:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1

    Atlanticism refused to notice the fact that the coup was
    illegitimate and illegal.

    ...

    <https://archive.is/9hDVX> dailymail.co.uk

    You've been fed propaganda nonsense about the Ukraine .. Hardly
    anyone in this country knows the truth about the Ukraine .. They
    learned to lie more skilfully .. We have never had a debate
    about the Ukraine crisis which started from the beginning .. You
    have just been fed propaganda rubbish about 'democracy'.. Ukraine's
    elected president was lawlessly overthrown by a mob in 2014.
    Britain and the USA condoned this shameful event because they
    preferred the illegal rebels to the elected government. You just
    can't do that and pretend to be the guardian of democracy ..

    ...

    Many readers perceive Hitchens as such a brave truth-teller. But
    I also notice some more there: a discrepancy between consciousness
    and subconsciousness. On the conscious level the writer boldly
    exposes wrongs, but some well-calibrated accents of his confident
    narration push certain subconscious buttons that help a reader
    accept the exposed and come to terms with it (or even approve it subconsciously). Psychologically, it serves to let the reading
    audience "blow off steam" without much real effect. Then it's more understandable why the maleficial Daily Mail outlet, known well as
    a powerful media tool for promotion of falsities, keeps at its
    pages this outstandingly truth-telling columnist.

    On the other hand, if the Hitchens' connotionness was different,
    then, it may be, no one of the major Atlanticist outlets would let
    him be published at all, so one can question what is worse.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 5 15:55:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1, alt.politics

    Sane analysts can see, what the Kiev regime and its fans seek
    to ineterpret as regime's military "achievements" are in fact
    "creative actions" of one-time / one-off / disposable kind.
    It's like destuctive computer hackers that can exploit certain
    vulnerabilities of a system, but can't undermine the system
    as a whole. The revealed vulnerabilities will simply be fixed
    in a systemic manner.

    The regime's "successful invasion" of the Kursk region in 2024
    August was possible because the Kremlin didn't expect the Kiev
    freaks would start to destroy the gas transit infrastructure,
    as the region where they invaded is key to this infrastructure.
    Since the beginning of the military operation in 2022, the gas
    infrastructure in the [former] Ukraine territory was not hit,
    it was kept intact. The result of the regime's Kursk adventure
    was so that Russian military then destroyed most of the former
    Ukraine's facilities related to the gas industry besides that
    Russian troops are now advancing in Sumy region, adjacent to
    Kursk, and there's a realistic prospect Sumy will be liberated.

    The recent regime's drone attack deep inside Russia is as well
    a one-time "creative success". It was only possible because the
    Russia-US nuclear arms agreements demand keeping the strategic
    bombers visible for satellites. Similar American bombers are
    visible quite the same way. Kiev regime has exploited this
    vulnerability once, which will likely affect the nuclear
    regulations to the worse. This "audacious" action has produced
    a short-term PR effect, but it's made longer-term consequnces
    for the Kiev regime and its supporters worse.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnMzKFLaalg>

    "Carnivalization of war" will bring more direness.

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  • From Dmitry Krivitsky@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Thu Jun 5 09:13:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1, alt.politics

    On 6/5/2025 8:55 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    The recent regime's drone attack deep inside Russia is as well
    a one-time "creative success". It was only possible because the
    Russia-US nuclear arms agreements demand keeping the strategic
    bombers visible for satellites.

    "21 февраля 2023 года президент Владимир Путин в послании к Федеральному
    Собранию заявил о приостановке участия России в договоре[10] и 28
    февраля 2023 года подписал Федеральный закон о приостановлении действия
    СНВ-III[11]."
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%9D%D0%92-III

    Так что, не надо тут врать.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 5 20:07:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1, alt.politics

    Dmitry Krivitsky, <news:[email protected]>
    On 6/5/2025 8:55 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    The recent regime's drone attack deep inside Russia is as well
    a one-time "creative success". It was only possible because the
    Russia-US nuclear arms agreements demand keeping the strategic
    bombers visible for satellites.

    "21 февраля 2023 года президент Владимир Путин в послании к Федеральному

    Ye'd've included one more sentence in the creative citation.

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  • From Vulcan@21:1/5 to Dmitry Krivitsky on Thu Jun 5 16:04:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1, alt.politics

    On 6/5/2025 9:13 AM, Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 6/5/2025 8:55 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    The recent regime's drone attack deep inside Russia is as well
    a one-time "creative success". It was only possible because the
    Russia-US nuclear arms agreements demand keeping the strategic
    bombers visible for satellites.

    "21 февраля 2023 года президент Владимир Путин в послании к Федеральному
    Собранию заявил о приостановке участия России в договоре[10] и 28
    февраля 2023 года подписал Федеральный закон о приостановлении действия
    СНВ-III[11]."
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%9D%D0%92-III

    Так что, не надо тут врать.

    а где надо врать?

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 6 19:05:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1, alt.politics

    <https://t.me/stranaua/191709?single>
    <https://t.me/stranaua/191707?single>
    <https://t.me/stranaua/190982?single>

    What the Kiev regime's conscription looks like.

    Videos of violent clashes between regular Ukrainians and
    draft officers are increasingly appearing in various social
    networks.

    According to out sources, each recruitment center (RC) has
    been given a conscription plan, and if the plan is not
    fulfilled, the RC's management is sent to "unsafe" units on
    the front lines. "Quality" of the drafted men in terms of
    their health / abilities is usually ignored. In addition to
    the conscription plan, the RCs usually also have been given
    a "black" plan to collect bribes and hand the money over up
    the higher management, and career of the officers directly
    depends on fulfillment of at least one of these two plans.

    The men caught during a hunt for conscripts are then usually
    suggested to pay for release from the RC. Those who have a
    clearly legal deferment are asked to pay as well. The rates
    for "exit ticket" vary depending on some factors, including
    solvency of "the client" and his relatives. If you've been
    caught on the street and brought into an RC's dungeon, then
    just leaving it costs ~ $5,000 or more. And there's no
    guarantee that you won't be caught the next day the same way.
    Obtaining an exemption from conscription for medical reasons
    costs from $10,000 to $25,000 in different regions depending
    on specific corrupt scheme. For $5,000 ~ 7,000, a man can be
    drafted to the rear, to guard bridges, warehouses etc.

    From here <https://t.me/stranaua/198281>

    This is only a part of the story, an interested one can read
    it in full with use of machine translation, there are more
    "piquant" details, information about how the officers share
    the collected money among themselves and what tactics they
    use to better hunt their victims and more.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 8 14:00:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.russian.z1, alt.politics

    <https://tinyurl.com/2dca9gkv> reuters.com

    Russia's claims that Ukraine is delaying exchange of soldiers'
    bodies are untrue, Ukrainian officials said on Saturday,
    urging Moscow to stop "playing dirty games" ..

    ...

    Reuters is a media tool to promote Atlanticist-backed falsities.

    In this case, the Kiev regime has become a hostage of its own
    unbridled propaganda. The big number of the bodies collected by
    Russian military contradicts the regime's false narrative that
    their losses are very few, so the shoddy freaks started to issue
    even more crazy lies, claiming that Russia is seeking to give
    them bodies that aren't related to the regime troops. One more
    reason is that the regime prefers to keep their dead in MIA
    status as long as possible to avoid paying any compensation to
    relatives of the dead.



    The Kiev-controlled territory has now become a kind of concentration
    camp. Adult men above 17 y/o cannot leave, even turning transgender
    doesn't help men. Certain kinds of women also can not.

    The recent Zelensky's statement that those who dislike something can
    change citizenship is a sadistic joke, because most of those who would
    dream to leave (and forget it like a nightmare) simply have no options
    to do so. Nobody wants to be drafted to the army, draft officers are literally hunting people, men are hiding. Corruption flourishes under
    these conditions. Unofficial price-list on how much one has to pay to
    avoid conscription is an open secret. The men caught by draft officers
    are then often beaten / tortured at the recruiting stations, sometimes
    up to death, and when some of such cases become public, it would be officially a suicide or a sudden heart attack etc. Regular populace increasingly hate the regime and Zelensky personally. However, there's
    no way to somehow protest. Regime critics are quickly labeled Russian
    spies and arrested, or simply disappear without a trace.

    Any independent media doesn't exist. After the new US administration
    stopped USAID, about 90% of Ukrainian outlets that previuously
    declared themselves "independent" had to admit they cannot continue to function as before. While dictator Zelensky, some "western" officials
    speak as if on behalf of "Ukrainian people", the populace residing in
    the Kiev-controlled territory have no way to express what they really
    want and think, both because of fear and because of censorship.

    It's clear that in this situiation the popular approval of the regime
    and Zelenky personally is very low. But the regime of course promotes (near-)official data painting a rozy picture, but that is a forgery.
    The regime has no way to survive, it will become uglier and worse with
    each passing day.

    The Atlanticist-backed violent 2014 coup in Kiev was under pro-western slogans, but it was in fact anti-democratic, so it naturally raised destructive extremist forces and led to destructive consequences.

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