• Trump/Musk Cancel Culture

    From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 11 15:10:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Today, the National Security Agency (NSA) is planning a
    | "Big Delete" of websites and internal network content that
    | contain any of 27 banned words, including "privilege,"
    | "bias," and "inclusion."
    | ...
    <https://popular.info/p/the-nsas-big-delete>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Feb 11 18:30:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vofp9b$sfl$1 @panix3.panix.com:

    |
    | Today, the National Security Agency (NSA) is planning a
    | "Big Delete" of websites and internal network content that
    | contain any of 27 banned words, including "privilege,"
    | "bias," and "inclusion."
    | ...
    <https://popular.info/p/the-nsas-big-delete>

    --bks


    Also soon "warming" and "women" and "rights"

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 12 07:08:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 11 Feb 2025 15:10:35 -0000, [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman)
    wrote:

    |
    | Today, the National Security Agency (NSA) is planning a
    | "Big Delete" of websites and internal network content that
    | contain any of 27 banned words, including "privilege,"
    | "bias," and "inclusion."
    | ...
    <https://popular.info/p/the-nsas-big-delete>

    --bks

    You say that like it's a bad thing.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to Nobel Chemistry Prize winner Joachi on Thu Feb 13 11:22:34 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Nobel Chemistry Prize winner Joachim Frank says:
    |
    | In the first days after the inauguration, the Federal
    | officers of the National Science Foundation were directed
    | to scan 55,000 grant proposals for the mention of the word
    | "diversity". Evidently, "diversity" is a word with generic
    | meaning in the English language. A grant proposal might
    | contain the phrases "diversity of protein structures" or
    | "diversity of opinions in the literature." But that is
    | tolerable diversity, while the objective of this hunt is to
    | find references to fostering and protecting the bad kind,
    | the ethnic and gender diversity among humans, and the
    | diversity in color of their skin.
    |
    | This official censorship, unparalleled in the history of
    | the United States, betrays a magical belief in the power of
    | words. But, beyond censorship, we are reminded of
    | classical witch trials, in which the use of a single word,
    | sign, or gesture is construed as "evidence" in a
    | life-or-death decision. Now the mere mention of efforts to
    | ensure workplace diversity may disqualify scientific
    | research from funding and even ruin a career. We hear
    | echoes of "Nineteen Eighty Four" and "Fahrenheit 451".
    |
    | Let us here celebrate the word "diversity" in its many
    | diverse forms, in as many languages (about 200) as are
    | listed in Google Translate. This is, mind you, just one
    | quarter of the number of languages spoken on the streets in
    | New York City, by people with all skin colors, genders, and
    | beliefs who make this city, and America as a whole, such an
    | exciting place.
    | ...
    <https://www.albany.edu/offcourse/issue100/frank_diversity.html>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu Feb 13 07:00:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 11:22:34 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Nobel Chemistry Prize winner Joachim Frank says:
    |
    | In the first days after the inauguration, the Federal
    | officers of the National Science Foundation were directed
    | to scan 55,000 grant proposals for the mention of the word
    | "diversity". Evidently, "diversity" is a word with generic
    | meaning in the English language. A grant proposal might
    | contain the phrases "diversity of protein structures" or
    | "diversity of opinions in the literature." But that is
    | tolerable diversity, while the objective of this hunt is to
    | find references to fostering and protecting the bad kind,
    | the ethnic and gender diversity among humans, and the
    | diversity in color of their skin.
    |
    | This official censorship, unparalleled in the history of
    | the United States, betrays a magical belief in the power of
    | words. But, beyond censorship, we are reminded of
    | classical witch trials, in which the use of a single word,
    | sign, or gesture is construed as "evidence" in a
    | life-or-death decision. Now the mere mention of efforts to
    | ensure workplace diversity may disqualify scientific
    | research from funding and even ruin a career. We hear
    | echoes of "Nineteen Eighty Four" and "Fahrenheit 451".
    |
    | Let us here celebrate the word "diversity" in its many
    | diverse forms, in as many languages (about 200) as are
    | listed in Google Translate. This is, mind you, just one
    | quarter of the number of languages spoken on the streets in
    | New York City, by people with all skin colors, genders, and
    | beliefs who make this city, and America as a whole, such an
    | exciting place.
    | ...
    <https://www.albany.edu/offcourse/issue100/frank_diversity.html>

    --bks

    Did these same people have issues with removing terms like "men"
    "women" etc?

    Laughter.

    Flail some more Bradley.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 20 12:28:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Some U.S. Food and Drug Administration scientists have been
    | told to stop using the words "woman," "disabled" and
    | "elderly" in external communications, two sources familiar
    | with the matter said ...
    | ... <https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fda-staffers-told-that-woman-disabled-among-banned-words-white-house-says-its-an-2025-02-20/>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 7 03:28:46 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | References to a World War II Medal of Honor recipient, the
    | Enola Gay aircraft that dropped an atomic bomb on Japan and
    | the first women to pass Marine infantry training are among
    | the tens of thousands of photos and online posts marked for
    | deletion as the Defense Department works to purge
    | diversity, equity and inclusion content, according to a
    | database obtained by The Associated Press.
    | ... <https://apnews.com/article/dei-purge-images-pentagon-diversity-women-black-8efcfaec909954f4a24bad0d49c78074>

    --bks

    Spoiler: "Gay"

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Fri Mar 7 14:43:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vqdp5e$i20$[email protected]:

    |
    | References to a World War II Medal of Honor recipient, the
    | Enola Gay aircraft that dropped an atomic bomb on Japan and
    | the first women to pass Marine infantry training are among
    | the tens of thousands of photos and online posts marked for
    | deletion as the Defense Department works to purge
    | diversity, equity and inclusion content, according to a
    | database obtained by The Associated Press.
    | ...
    <https://apnews.com/article/dei-purge-images-pentagon-diversity-women-b lack-8efcfaec909954f4a24bad0d49c78074>

    --bks

    Spoiler: "Gay"


    Military rewards women = DEI!

    Trump appoints women = well,
    they are just the most qualified,
    doncha know.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 10 21:01:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Trumplings thinks it's perfectly normal to require cancer scientists
    to bend the knee to a whackjob with a history of heroin addiction and
    steroid abuse:
    |
    | National Cancer Institute Employees Can't Publish
    | Information on These Topics Without Special Approval
    |
    | Vaccines. Fluoride. Autism. Communications involving these
    | and 20 other "controversial, high profile, or sensitive"
    | topics will get extra scrutiny under Health Secretary
    | Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
    | ... <https://www.propublica.org/article/national-cancer-institute-flagged-topics-vaccines-autism-rfk-jr>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Mar 11 01:59:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vqnk05$in7$[email protected]:

    Trumplings thinks it's perfectly normal to require cancer scientists
    to bend the knee to a whackjob with a history of heroin addiction and
    steroid abuse:
    |
    | National Cancer Institute Employees Can't Publish
    | Information on These Topics Without Special Approval
    |
    | Vaccines. Fluoride. Autism. Communications involving these
    | and 20 other "controversial, high profile, or sensitive"
    | topics will get extra scrutiny under Health Secretary
    | Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
    | ...
    <https://www.propublica.org/article/national-cancer-institute-flagged-t opics-vaccines-autism-rfk-jr>

    --bks



    Trump dismissed vaccinations
    until HE got Covid.

    Nancy Reagan dismissed embryonic
    cell technology until HER husband
    got Alzheimers.

    Why is it conservatives dismiss
    science until advancing it becomes
    in THEIR self interest?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Mar 11 07:20:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 21:01:58 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Trumplings thinks it's perfectly normal to require cancer scientists
    to bend the knee to a whackjob with a history of heroin addiction and
    steroid abuse:
    |
    | National Cancer Institute Employees Can't Publish
    | Information on These Topics Without Special Approval
    |
    | Vaccines. Fluoride. Autism. Communications involving these
    | and 20 other "controversial, high profile, or sensitive"
    | topics will get extra scrutiny under Health Secretary
    | Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
    | ...
    <https://www.propublica.org/article/national-cancer-institute-flagged-topics-vaccines-autism-rfk-jr>

    --bks

    You mean government scientists didn't need approval to publish their
    garbage articles previously?

    Well that explains the ridiculousness that became Covid.

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  • From Peter Kent Navarro@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 11 17:13:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Trumplings thinks it's perfectly normal to require cancer scientists
    to bend the knee to a whackjob with a history of heroin addiction and
    steroid abuse:
    |
    | National Cancer Institute Employees Can't Publish
    | Information on These Topics Without Special Approval
    |
    | Vaccines. Fluoride. Autism. Communications involving these
    | and 20 other "controversial, high profile, or sensitive"
    | topics will get extra scrutiny under Health Secretary
    | Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
    | ...
    <https://www.propublica.org/article/national-cancer-institute-flagged-topi >cs-vaccines-autism-rfk-jr>

    --bks


    Science is now in the hands of political ideology where it belongs!

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Mar 12 07:31:27 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 07:20:31 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 21:01:58 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Trumplings thinks it's perfectly normal to require cancer scientists
    to bend the knee to a whackjob with a history of heroin addiction and >>steroid abuse:
    |
    | National Cancer Institute Employees Can't Publish
    | Information on These Topics Without Special Approval
    |
    | Vaccines. Fluoride. Autism. Communications involving these
    | and 20 other "controversial, high profile, or sensitive"
    | topics will get extra scrutiny under Health Secretary
    | Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
    | ... >><https://www.propublica.org/article/national-cancer-institute-flagged-topics-vaccines-autism-rfk-jr>

    --bks

    You mean government scientists didn't need approval to publish their
    garbage articles previously?

    Well that explains the ridiculousness that became Covid.


    And Bradley runs away.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 13:28:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | West Ada School District administrators have instructed a
    | teacher that she must remove two signs from her classroom
    | out of concern that they "inadvertently create division or
    | controversy," the district told the Idaho Statesman.
    | ...
    | One of them reads, "Everyone is welcome here," above hands
    | of different skin tones.
    |
    | The other reads, "In this room, everyone is welcome,
    | important, accepted, respected, encouraged, valued," with
    | each word highlighted in a different color.
    | ... <https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/education/article301972094.html>

    --bks

    The horror! The horror!

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sat Mar 15 10:20:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    | West Ada School District administrators have instructed a
    | teacher that she must remove two signs from her classroom
    | out of concern that they "inadvertently create division or
    | controversy," the district told the Idaho Statesman.
    | ...
    | One of them reads, "Everyone is welcome here," above hands
    | of different skin tones.
    |
    | The other reads, "In this room, everyone is welcome,
    | important, accepted, respected, encouraged, valued," with
    | each word highlighted in a different color.
    | ... <https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/education/article301972094.html>

    The horror! The horror!

    Trumpers are snowflakes about anything not as white as snow.

    --
    Fun experiments:
    Get a can of shaving cream, throw it in a freezer for about a week.
    Then take it out, peel the metal off and put it where you want...
    bedroom, car, etc. As it thaws, it expands an unbelievable amount.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Mar 16 08:58:08 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 13:28:48 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | West Ada School District administrators have instructed a
    | teacher that she must remove two signs from her classroom
    | out of concern that they "inadvertently create division or
    | controversy," the district told the Idaho Statesman.
    | ...
    | One of them reads, "Everyone is welcome here," above hands
    | of different skin tones.
    |
    | The other reads, "In this room, everyone is welcome,
    | important, accepted, respected, encouraged, valued," with
    | each word highlighted in a different color.
    | ...
    <https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/education/article301972094.html>

    --bks

    The horror! The horror!

    What does this have to do with Trump?

    AND


    now for what you snipped:

    "Inama said she was told by administrators on Feb. 3 that her signs
    �don�t allow people to express differing opinions, that it is
    controversial in today�s political environment.� She initially removed
    them, but then had a change of heart. In emails shared by the district
    with the Idaho Statesman, Marcus Myers, the district�s chief academic
    officer, told Inama to remove the signs because they violated Idaho�s
    Dignity and Nondiscrimination in Public Education Act, as well as
    school policy, which requires signs to be �content neutral and
    conducive to a positive learning environment.�

    Read more at: https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/education/article301972094.html#storylink=cpy"

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Mar 17 06:53:29 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 08:58:08 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 13:28:48 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | West Ada School District administrators have instructed a
    | teacher that she must remove two signs from her classroom
    | out of concern that they "inadvertently create division or
    | controversy," the district told the Idaho Statesman.
    | ...
    | One of them reads, "Everyone is welcome here," above hands
    | of different skin tones.
    |
    | The other reads, "In this room, everyone is welcome,
    | important, accepted, respected, encouraged, valued," with
    | each word highlighted in a different color.
    | ... >><https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/education/article301972094.html> >>
    --bks

    The horror! The horror!

    What does this have to do with Trump?

    AND


    now for what you snipped:

    "Inama said she was told by administrators on Feb. 3 that her signs
    �don�t allow people to express differing opinions, that it is
    controversial in today�s political environment.� She initially removed
    them, but then had a change of heart. In emails shared by the district
    with the Idaho Statesman, Marcus Myers, the district�s chief academic >officer, told Inama to remove the signs because they violated Idaho�s
    Dignity and Nondiscrimination in Public Education Act, as well as
    school policy, which requires signs to be �content neutral and
    conducive to a positive learning environment.�

    Read more at: >https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/education/article301972094.html#storylink=cpy"

    And Bradley the Russian troll has run away again.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 22 12:10:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | West Ada School District administrators have instructed a
    | teacher that she must remove two signs from her classroom
    | out of concern that they "inadvertently create division or
    | controversy," the district told the Idaho Statesman.
    | ...
    | One of them reads, "Everyone is welcome here," above hands
    | of different skin tones.
    |
    | The other reads, "In this room, everyone is welcome,
    | important, accepted, respected, encouraged, valued," with
    | each word highlighted in a different color.

    | ...
    | The Alabama Public Library Service Board of Trustees voted
    | Thursday to withhold state funding from the Fairhope Public
    | Library after complaints from conservative parents about
    | books in the teen section. In the same meeting, the board
    | voted to immediately dismiss the executive director of the
    | state library agency, who had been planning to resign.
    | ... <https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/22/us/alabama-library-defunded-book-bans-hnk/index.html>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sat Mar 22 13:14:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vrm9c9$bnm$[email protected]:

    | West Ada School District administrators have instructed a
    | teacher that she must remove two signs from her classroom
    | out of concern that they "inadvertently create division or
    | controversy," the district told the Idaho Statesman.
    | ...
    | One of them reads, "Everyone is welcome here," above hands
    | of different skin tones.
    |
    | The other reads, "In this room, everyone is welcome,
    | important, accepted, respected, encouraged, valued," with
    | each word highlighted in a different color.

    | ...
    | The Alabama Public Library Service Board of Trustees voted
    | Thursday to withhold state funding from the Fairhope Public
    | Library after complaints from conservative parents about
    | books in the teen section. In the same meeting, the board
    | voted to immediately dismiss the executive director of the
    | state library agency, who had been planning to resign.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/22/us/alabama-library-defunded-book-bans-h nk/index.html>

    --bks



    One library got so fed up with rightwing
    "inapporopriate for children" complaints that
    it just went adults-only.


    https://authorsguild.org/news/idaho-library-goes-adults-only-in-response- to-state-book-banning-law/

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sat Mar 22 09:14:27 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 12:10:49 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | West Ada School District administrators have instructed a
    | teacher that she must remove two signs from her classroom
    | out of concern that they "inadvertently create division or
    | controversy," the district told the Idaho Statesman.
    | ...
    | One of them reads, "Everyone is welcome here," above hands
    | of different skin tones.
    |
    | The other reads, "In this room, everyone is welcome,
    | important, accepted, respected, encouraged, valued," with
    | each word highlighted in a different color.

    | ...
    | The Alabama Public Library Service Board of Trustees voted
    | Thursday to withhold state funding from the Fairhope Public
    | Library after complaints from conservative parents about
    | books in the teen section. In the same meeting, the board
    | voted to immediately dismiss the executive director of the
    | state library agency, who had been planning to resign.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/22/us/alabama-library-defunded-book-bans-hnk/index.html>

    --bks

    You have an issue with local governments deciding what they'll fund???

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Mar 22 06:44:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 12:10:49 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | West Ada School District administrators have instructed a
    | teacher that she must remove two signs from her classroom
    | out of concern that they "inadvertently create division or
    | controversy," the district told the Idaho Statesman.
    | ...
    | One of them reads, "Everyone is welcome here," above hands
    | of different skin tones.
    |
    | The other reads, "In this room, everyone is welcome,
    | important, accepted, respected, encouraged, valued," with
    | each word highlighted in a different color.

    | ...
    | The Alabama Public Library Service Board of Trustees voted
    | Thursday to withhold state funding from the Fairhope Public
    | Library after complaints from conservative parents about
    | books in the teen section. In the same meeting, the board
    | voted to immediately dismiss the executive director of the
    | state library agency, who had been planning to resign.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/22/us/alabama-library-defunded-book-bans-hnk/index.html>

    --bks

    You have an issue with local governments deciding what they'll fund???


    What does an executive director do?

    --
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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Fri Mar 28 12:48:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vs6594$biu$2 @reader1.panix.com:

    |
    | US President Donald Trump has signed an executive order
    | targeting the Smithsonian Institution, which operates more
    | than 20 museums and research centres visited by millions
    | yearly in Washington DC and New York City.
    |
    | The order directs the vice-president to "eliminate
    | improper, divisive, or anti-American ideology" from the
    | institute's museums, centres and the National Zoo in
    | Washington.
    | ...
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdjy1jmvvwzo>

    --bks



    Will the Enola Gay become the Enola Straight?

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 28 12:39:00 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | US President Donald Trump has signed an executive order
    | targeting the Smithsonian Institution, which operates more
    | than 20 museums and research centres visited by millions
    | yearly in Washington DC and New York City.
    |
    | The order directs the vice-president to "eliminate
    | improper, divisive, or anti-American ideology" from the
    | institute's museums, centres and the National Zoo in
    | Washington.
    | ...
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdjy1jmvvwzo>

    --bks

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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Fri Mar 28 08:26:57 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/28/2025 8:22 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    | US President Donald Trump has signed an executive order
    | targeting the Smithsonian Institution, which operates more
    | than 20 museums and research centres visited by millions
    | yearly in Washington DC and New York City.
    |
    | The order directs the vice-president to "eliminate
    | improper, divisive, or anti-American ideology" from the
    | institute's museums, centres and the National Zoo in
    | Washington.
    | ...
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdjy1jmvvwzo>

    Is Trump asymptoting to Hitler?

    He is barely an epsilon away from the line.


    In any case, this right-wing insanity is devolving the U.S. slowly to banana-republic status.
    That is how the people of all developed and civilized countries look at us now.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Fri Mar 28 11:22:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    | US President Donald Trump has signed an executive order
    | targeting the Smithsonian Institution, which operates more
    | than 20 museums and research centres visited by millions
    | yearly in Washington DC and New York City.
    |
    | The order directs the vice-president to "eliminate
    | improper, divisive, or anti-American ideology" from the
    | institute's museums, centres and the National Zoo in
    | Washington.
    | ...
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdjy1jmvvwzo>

    Is Trump asymptoting to Hitler?

    In any case, this right-wing insanity is devolving the U.S. slowly to banana-republic status.

    --
    More than any time in history, mankind now faces a crossroads. One path
    leads to despair and utter hopelessness, the other to total extinction.
    Let us pray that we have the wisdom to choose correctly.
    -- Woody Allen, "Side Effects"

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Fri Mar 28 09:24:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 28/3/25 5:39, [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
    |
    | US President Donald Trump has signed an executive order
    | targeting the Smithsonian Institution, which operates more
    | than 20 museums and research centres visited by millions
    | yearly in Washington DC and New York City.
    |
    | The order directs the vice-president to "eliminate
    | improper, divisive, or anti-American ideology" from the
    | institute's museums, centres and the National Zoo in
    | Washington.

    (1) The VP does not run it alone:

    As approved by Congress on August 10, 1846, the legislation that
    created the Smithsonian Institution called for the creation of a
    Board of Regents to govern and administer the organization. This seventeen-member board meets at least four times a year and
    includes as ex officio members the chief justice of the United
    States and the vice president of the United States. The nominal
    head of the institution is the chancellor, an office which has
    traditionally been held by the chief justice. In September 2007,
    the board created the position of chair of the Board of Regents,
    a position currently held by Risa Lavizzo-Mourey.

    (2) The VP is not in the executive. Presidents cannot order them
    to do anything. The VP works in the Senate.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu Apr 3 08:54:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 12:30:10 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | 'It reminds you of a fascist state': Smithsonian
    | Institution braces for Trump rewrite of US history
    |
    | Normally staid historians sound alarm at authoritarian
    | grasping for control of the premier US museum complex

    |
    | Trump's attacks on museums and libraries echo the Nazi
    | playbook
    | ...
    <https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-attacks-museums-libraries-echo-221855380.html>

    --bks

    <yawn>

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 3 12:30:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | 'It reminds you of a fascist state': Smithsonian
    | Institution braces for Trump rewrite of US history
    |
    | Normally staid historians sound alarm at authoritarian
    | grasping for control of the premier US museum complex

    |
    | Trump's attacks on museums and libraries echo the Nazi
    | playbook
    | ... <https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-attacks-museums-libraries-echo-221855380.html>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to Bluegirl on Thu Apr 3 12:56:26 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Bluegirl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> wrote:

    | 'It reminds you of a fascist state': Smithsonian
    | Institution braces for Trump rewrite of US history
    |
    | Normally staid historians sound alarm at authoritarian
    | grasping for control of the premier US museum complex

    |
    | Trump's attacks on museums and libraries echo the Nazi
    | playbook

    <yawn>

    Vienna in 1938? You're soaking in it.

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Apr 4 07:20:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 12:30:10 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | 'It reminds you of a fascist state': Smithsonian
    | Institution braces for Trump rewrite of US history
    |
    | Normally staid historians sound alarm at authoritarian
    | grasping for control of the premier US museum complex

    |
    | Trump's attacks on museums and libraries echo the Nazi
    | playbook
    | ...
    <https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-attacks-museums-libraries-echo-221855380.html>

    --bks

    Laughter.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 4 09:41:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 12:30:10 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | 'It reminds you of a fascist state': Smithsonian
    | Institution braces for Trump rewrite of US history
    |
    | Normally staid historians sound alarm at authoritarian
    | grasping for control of the premier US museum complex

    |
    | Trump's attacks on museums and libraries echo the Nazi
    | playbook
    | ...
    <https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-attacks-museums-libraries-echo-221855380.html>

    --bks

    We get book burnin's too! Woo Hoo!

    When do we start burning the witches?

    Right after you're done burning innocent peoples cars.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 6 13:39:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | 'It reminds you of a fascist state': Smithsonian
    | Institution braces for Trump rewrite of US history

    | Trump's attacks on museums and libraries echo the Nazi
    | playbook

    The Ministry of Truth is on the clock:
    |
    | Amid anti-DEI push, National Park Service rewrites history
    | of Underground Railroad
    |
    | Since Trump took office, the park service -- an agency
    | charged with preserving American history -- has changed how
    | its website describes key moments from slavery to Jim Crow
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2025/04/06/national-park-service-underground-railroad-history-slavery/>

    --bks

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sun Apr 6 13:21:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    | 'It reminds you of a fascist state': Smithsonian
    | Institution braces for Trump rewrite of US history

    | Trump's attacks on museums and libraries echo the Nazi
    | playbook

    The Ministry of Truth is on the clock:
    |
    | Amid anti-DEI push, National Park Service rewrites history
    | of Underground Railroad
    |
    | Since Trump took office, the park service -- an agency
    | charged with preserving American history -- has changed how
    | its website describes key moments from slavery to Jim Crow
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2025/04/06/national-park-service-underground-railroad-history-slavery/>

    The Naval Academy, too:

    https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/community/local-news/naval-academy-list-book-banned-library-ZQKY5R2ZQBDLNOZA4C3W6YYE3M/

    Naval Academy’s full list of nearly 400 books on race, gender pulled from
    library

    Trump and friends need a hysterectomy.

    --
    You can't erase a dream, you can only wake me up.
    -- Peter Frampton

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Mon Apr 7 10:07:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 13:39:22 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | 'It reminds you of a fascist state': Smithsonian
    | Institution braces for Trump rewrite of US history

    | Trump's attacks on museums and libraries echo the Nazi
    | playbook

    The Ministry of Truth is on the clock:
    |
    | Amid anti-DEI push, National Park Service rewrites history
    | of Underground Railroad
    |
    | Since Trump took office, the park service -- an agency
    | charged with preserving American history -- has changed how
    | its website describes key moments from slavery to Jim Crow
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2025/04/06/national-park-service-underground-railroad-history-slavery/>

    --bks

    Paywalled garbage.

    Imagine that.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Apr 7 14:22:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Kremlin Girl <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    | 'It reminds you of a fascist state': Smithsonian
    | Institution braces for Trump rewrite of US history

    | Trump's attacks on museums and libraries echo the Nazi
    | playbook

    The Ministry of Truth is on the clock:
    |
    | Amid anti-DEI push, National Park Service rewrites history
    | of Underground Railroad
    |
    | Since Trump took office, the park service -- an agency
    | charged with preserving American history -- has changed how
    | its website describes key moments from slavery to Jim Crow
    | ... >><https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2025/04/06/national-park-service-underground-railroad-history-slavery/>
    ...
    Paywalled garbage.

    Here you go, Kremlin Girl. No paywall:
    <https://wapo.st/44exouB>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Mon Apr 7 18:10:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    [email protected] (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vt0n2g$lfu$[email protected]:

    Kremlin Girl <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    | 'It reminds you of a fascist state': Smithsonian
    | Institution braces for Trump rewrite of US history

    | Trump's attacks on museums and libraries echo the Nazi
    | playbook

    The Ministry of Truth is on the clock:
    |
    | Amid anti-DEI push, National Park Service rewrites history
    | of Underground Railroad
    |
    | Since Trump took office, the park service -- an agency
    | charged with preserving American history -- has changed how
    | its website describes key moments from slavery to Jim Crow
    | ... >>><https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2025/04/06/national-par >>>k-service-underground-railroad-history-slavery/>
    ...
    Paywalled garbage.

    Here you go, Kremlin Girl. No paywall:
    <https://wapo.st/44exouB>

    --bks



    I love the Kremlin Girl "your post is a bunch
    of unnamed source liberal garbage that proves
    nothing and besides I never read it because it is
    paywalled"

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Apr 8 11:55:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    I love the Kremlin Girl "your post is a bunch
    of unnamed source liberal garbage that proves
    nothing and besides I never read it because it is
    paywalled"

    Kremlin Girl, homeschooled by a pigeon in Minsk, goes into
    a coffee shop and starts screaming "Paywall!" when they
    ask her to pay for her pumpkin spice latte.

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Apr 8 09:28:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 14:22:09 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Kremlin Girl <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    | 'It reminds you of a fascist state': Smithsonian
    | Institution braces for Trump rewrite of US history

    | Trump's attacks on museums and libraries echo the Nazi
    | playbook

    The Ministry of Truth is on the clock:
    |
    | Amid anti-DEI push, National Park Service rewrites history
    | of Underground Railroad
    |
    | Since Trump took office, the park service -- an agency
    | charged with preserving American history -- has changed how
    | its website describes key moments from slavery to Jim Crow
    | ... >>><https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2025/04/06/national-park-service-underground-railroad-history-slavery/>
    ...
    Paywalled garbage.

    Here you go, Kremlin Girl. No paywall:
    <https://wapo.st/44exouB>

    --bks

    Still paywalled and wants me to create an account.
    Damn, can you EVER be honest?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Apr 8 09:31:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 11:55:22 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    I love the Kremlin Girl "your post is a bunch
    of unnamed source liberal garbage that proves
    nothing and besides I never read it because it is
    paywalled"

    Kremlin Girl, homeschooled by a pigeon in Minsk, goes into
    a coffee shop and starts screaming "Paywall!" when they
    ask her to pay for her pumpkin spice latte.

    --bks


    I don't go into coffee shops and pay ridiculous prices.
    Nor would I pay for the garbage that are these news sites.

    In summary YOU post the crap that can't be read and then complain when
    I point it out. You're either spending a fortune in subscriptions or
    you're stealing the articles. I'm betting you're stealing because
    that's what libs do.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Apr 8 13:32:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Kremlin Girl <[email protected]> wrote:

    Here you go, Kremlin Girl. No paywall:
    <https://wapo.st/44exouB>

    Still paywalled and wants me to create an account.
    ...

    Kremlin Girl, homeschooled by a pigeon in Minsk, thinks
    a *free* account is the same as a paywall. You can't
    make this shit up.

    --bks

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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Apr 8 10:33:45 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/7/2025 7:22 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Kremlin Girl <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    | 'It reminds you of a fascist state': Smithsonian
    | Institution braces for Trump rewrite of US history

    | Trump's attacks on museums and libraries echo the Nazi
    | playbook

    The Ministry of Truth is on the clock:
    |
    | Amid anti-DEI push, National Park Service rewrites history
    | of Underground Railroad
    |
    | Since Trump took office, the park service -- an agency
    | charged with preserving American history -- has changed how
    | its website describes key moments from slavery to Jim Crow
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2025/04/06/national-park-service-underground-railroad-history-slavery/>
    ...
    Paywalled garbage.

    Here you go, Kremlin Girl. No paywall:
    <https://wapo.st/44exouB>

    It's not fully paywalled, but you have to provide them with an e-mail address, and it's only good for one story.

    Seriously, you should go back to ignoring Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness. It enrages her. I wish Lee and Mitchell would do the same.

    Oh, and for what it's worth:

    "National Park Service restores Underground Railroad webpage after outcry" https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/04/08/national-park-service-underground-railroad-harriet-tubman/

    *That* is going to enrage the racist whore KG/BoN even more.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Apr 9 09:56:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 08 Apr 2025 09:31:07 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 11:55:22 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    I love the Kremlin Girl "your post is a bunch
    of unnamed source liberal garbage that proves
    nothing and besides I never read it because it is
    paywalled"

    Kremlin Girl, homeschooled by a pigeon in Minsk, goes into
    a coffee shop and starts screaming "Paywall!" when they
    ask her to pay for her pumpkin spice latte.

    --bks


    I don't go into coffee shops and pay ridiculous prices.
    Nor would I pay for the garbage that are these news sites.

    In summary YOU post the crap that can't be read and then complain when
    I point it out. You're either spending a fortune in subscriptions or
    you're stealing the articles. I'm betting you're stealing because
    that's what libs do.

    Well Bradley? Which is it?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Apr 9 09:55:44 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 13:32:03 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Kremlin Girl <[email protected]> wrote:

    Here you go, Kremlin Girl. No paywall:
    <https://wapo.st/44exouB>

    Still paywalled and wants me to create an account.
    ...

    Kremlin Girl, homeschooled by a pigeon in Minsk, thinks
    a *free* account is the same as a paywall. You can't
    make this shit up.

    --bks

    Is that why it's asking me to pay money?

    Duh you.

    Here's a thought: Quote enough context in your posts to make your
    point.

    Of course, since your intent is to deceive, you would never do such a
    thing.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Apr 10 11:48:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 09 Apr 2025 09:55:44 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 13:32:03 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Kremlin Girl <[email protected]> wrote:

    Here you go, Kremlin Girl. No paywall:
    <https://wapo.st/44exouB>

    Still paywalled and wants me to create an account.
    ...

    Kremlin Girl, homeschooled by a pigeon in Minsk, thinks
    a *free* account is the same as a paywall. You can't
    make this shit up.

    --bks

    Is that why it's asking me to pay money?

    Duh you.

    Here's a thought: Quote enough context in your posts to make your
    point.

    Of course, since your intent is to deceive, you would never do such a
    thing.

    And Bradley-bot has vanished.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 10 20:31:56 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | 'It reminds you of a fascist state': Smithsonian
    | Institution braces for Trump rewrite of US history

    | Trump's attacks on museums and libraries echo the Nazi
    | playbook

    The Ministry of Truth is on the clock:
    |
    | Amid anti-DEI push, National Park Service rewrites history
    | of Underground Railroad

    |
    | The Smithsonian could be the beginning of Trump's plan to
    | edit history. Or the end.
    |
    | The president may not like how the museum and research
    | institution tells the American story -- but Americans do.
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/art/2025/04/10/trump-smithsonian-history-edit/>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Apr 11 10:11:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 20:31:56 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | 'It reminds you of a fascist state': Smithsonian
    | Institution braces for Trump rewrite of US history

    | Trump's attacks on museums and libraries echo the Nazi
    | playbook

    The Ministry of Truth is on the clock:
    |
    | Amid anti-DEI push, National Park Service rewrites history
    | of Underground Railroad

    |
    | The Smithsonian could be the beginning of Trump's plan to
    | edit history. Or the end.
    |
    | The president may not like how the museum and research
    | institution tells the American story -- but Americans do.
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/art/2025/04/10/trump-smithsonian-history-edit/>

    --bks

    Paywalled crap.

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