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    From Dale@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 22 18:01:13 2022
    XPost: free.metaphysics, talk.religion.pantheism, talk.religion.newage
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.metaphysics.lightwork

    Was Earth "whirl-ed" from Universal determinism? Like from a virtual
    particle?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle

    Or is it an eternal "plan-it" piece of Universal determinism that never
    began and will never end?

    Does a Pantheistic God, Universalism, every once in "a-why-le" try to
    toss things from its "ism"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

    "The Whole" cannot get rid of Universal determinism because it is what
    it determines to be?



    --
    Mystery -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Dale on Wed Jun 22 18:03:47 2022
    XPost: free.metaphysics, talk.religion.pantheism, talk.religion.newage
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.metaphysics.lightwork

    On 6/22/2022 6:01 PM, Dale wrote:
    Was Earth "whirl-ed"

    world


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  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to Dale on Thu Jun 23 09:48:21 2022
    XPost: free.metaphysics, talk.religion.pantheism, talk.religion.newage
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.metaphysics.lightwork

    On 23/06/2022 8:01 am, Dale wrote:
    Was Earth "whirl-ed" from Universal determinism? Like from a virtual particle?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle

    Or is it an eternal "plan-it" piece of Universal determinism that never
    began and will never end?

    Does a Pantheistic God, Universalism, every once in "a-why-le" try to
    toss things from its "ism"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

    "The Whole" cannot get rid of Universal determinism because it is what
    it determines to be?

    That is quite a tale, Dale. I am sorry, but to me you seem to be on the
    ale.






    Michael Christ



    --
    Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
    an ignorant straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

    "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Michael Christ on Wed Jun 22 20:41:46 2022
    XPost: free.metaphysics, talk.religion.pantheism, talk.religion.newage
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.metaphysics.lightwork

    On 6/22/2022 7:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 8:01 am, Dale wrote:
    Was Earth "whirl-ed" from Universal determinism? Like from a virtual
    particle?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle

    Or is it an eternal "plan-it" piece of Universal determinism that
    never began and will never end?

    Does a Pantheistic God, Universalism, every once in "a-why-le" try to
    toss things from its "ism"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

    "The Whole" cannot get rid of Universal determinism because it is what
    it determines to be?


    ...

    That is quite a tale, Dale.  I am sorry, but to me you seem to be on the ale.

    as long as I am above illusion it is an instrument not an illness

    https://www.dalekelly.org/om.html


    --
    Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to Dale on Thu Jun 23 10:49:34 2022
    XPost: free.metaphysics, talk.religion.pantheism, talk.religion.newage
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.metaphysics.lightwork

    On 23/06/2022 10:41 am, Dale wrote:
    On 6/22/2022 7:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 8:01 am, Dale wrote:
    Was Earth "whirl-ed" from Universal determinism? Like from a virtual
    particle?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle

    Or is it an eternal "plan-it" piece of Universal determinism that
    never began and will never end?

    Does a Pantheistic God, Universalism, every once in "a-why-le" try to
    toss things from its "ism"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

    "The Whole" cannot get rid of Universal determinism because it is
    what it determines to be?


    ...

    That is quite a tale, Dale.  I am sorry, but to me you seem to be on
    the ale.

    as long as I am above illusion it is an instrument not an illness

    https://www.dalekelly.org/om.html



    How can you be above what you are?






    Michael Christ

    --
    Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
    an ignorant straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

    "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Michael Christ on Wed Jun 22 21:45:13 2022
    XPost: free.metaphysics, talk.religion.pantheism, talk.religion.newage
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.metaphysics.lightwork

    On 6/22/2022 8:49 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 10:41 am, Dale wrote:
    On 6/22/2022 7:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 8:01 am, Dale wrote:
    Was Earth "whirl-ed" from Universal determinism? Like from a virtual
    particle?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle

    Or is it an eternal "plan-it" piece of Universal determinism that
    never began and will never end?

    Does a Pantheistic God, Universalism, every once in "a-why-le" try
    to toss things from its "ism"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

    "The Whole" cannot get rid of Universal determinism because it is
    what it determines to be?


    ...

    That is quite a tale, Dale.  I am sorry, but to me you seem to be on
    the ale.

    as long as I am above illusion it is an instrument not an illness

    https://www.dalekelly.org/om.html



    ...



    How can you be above what you are?


    my will has moments in agreement with determinism

    my will has moments in disagreement with determinism

    determinism is God's will

    God puts heaven and heavenly temporariness in place by fairness of our definitions. comparisons of our soles

    All I can do is try to be fair. Here is my mantra ...

    https://www.dalekelly.org/mantra.html


    --
    Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Dale on Thu Jun 23 15:31:45 2022
    XPost: free.metaphysics, talk.religion.pantheism, talk.religion.newage
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.metaphysics.lightwork

    On 6/22/2022 6:01 PM, Dale wrote:

    ... Earth ...



    Ear-th ?


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    Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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  • From El Kabong@21:1/5 to Michael Christ on Thu Jun 23 13:32:25 2022
    XPost: free.metaphysics, talk.religion.pantheism, talk.religion.newage
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.metaphysics.lightwork

    Michael Christ <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 10:41 am, Dale wrote:
    On 6/22/2022 7:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 8:01 am, Dale wrote:
    Was Earth "whirl-ed" from Universal determinism? Like from a virtual
    particle?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle

    Or is it an eternal "plan-it" piece of Universal determinism that
    never began and will never end?

    Does a Pantheistic God, Universalism, every once in "a-why-le" try to
    toss things from its "ism"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

    "The Whole" cannot get rid of Universal determinism because it is
    what it determines to be?

    That is quite a tale, Dale.� I am sorry, but to me you seem to be on
    the ale.

    as long as I am above illusion it is an instrument not an illness

    How can you be above what you are?

    He created himself. Now he's virtualizing whirled peas.

    What have you contributed to the planet, besides getting
    crucified for our sins?

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Michael Christ on Thu Jun 23 21:38:25 2022
    XPost: free.metaphysics, talk.religion.pantheism, talk.religion.newage
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.metaphysics.lightwork

    On 6/23/2022 9:26 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 11:45 am, Dale wrote:
    On 6/22/2022 8:49 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 10:41 am, Dale wrote:
    On 6/22/2022 7:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 8:01 am, Dale wrote:
    Was Earth "whirl-ed" from Universal determinism? Like from a
    virtual particle?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle

    Or is it an eternal "plan-it" piece of Universal determinism that
    never began and will never end?

    Does a Pantheistic God, Universalism, every once in "a-why-le" try >>>>>> to toss things from its "ism"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

    "The Whole" cannot get rid of Universal determinism because it is
    what it determines to be?


    ...

    That is quite a tale, Dale.  I am sorry, but to me you seem to be
    on the ale.

    as long as I am above illusion it is an instrument not an illness

    https://www.dalekelly.org/om.html



    ...



    How can you be above what you are?


    my will has moments in agreement with determinism

    my will has moments in disagreement with determinism

    determinism is God's will

    God puts heaven and heavenly temporariness in place by fairness of our
    definitions. comparisons of our soles

    All I can do is try to be fair. Here is my mantra ...

    https://www.dalekelly.org/mantra.html



    ...


    Fair enough.

    By the way, you look fairer without the long beard.



    I'll try for a mix that will make me look younger.


    --
    Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to Dale on Fri Jun 24 11:26:04 2022
    XPost: free.metaphysics, talk.religion.pantheism, talk.religion.newage
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.metaphysics.lightwork

    On 23/06/2022 11:45 am, Dale wrote:
    On 6/22/2022 8:49 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 10:41 am, Dale wrote:
    On 6/22/2022 7:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 8:01 am, Dale wrote:
    Was Earth "whirl-ed" from Universal determinism? Like from a
    virtual particle?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle

    Or is it an eternal "plan-it" piece of Universal determinism that
    never began and will never end?

    Does a Pantheistic God, Universalism, every once in "a-why-le" try
    to toss things from its "ism"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

    "The Whole" cannot get rid of Universal determinism because it is
    what it determines to be?


    ...

    That is quite a tale, Dale.  I am sorry, but to me you seem to be on
    the ale.

    as long as I am above illusion it is an instrument not an illness

    https://www.dalekelly.org/om.html



    ...



    How can you be above what you are?


    my will has moments in agreement with determinism

    my will has moments in disagreement with determinism

    determinism is God's will

    God puts heaven and heavenly temporariness in place by fairness of our definitions. comparisons of our soles

    All I can do is try to be fair. Here is my mantra ...

    https://www.dalekelly.org/mantra.html



    Fair enough.

    By the way, you look fairer without the long beard.






    Michael Christ

    --
    Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
    an ignorant straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

    "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Michael Christ on Thu Jun 23 22:45:30 2022
    XPost: free.metaphysics, talk.religion.pantheism, talk.religion.newage
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.metaphysics.lightwork

    On 6/23/2022 10:23 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 24/06/2022 11:38 am, Dale wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 9:26 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 11:45 am, Dale wrote:
    On 6/22/2022 8:49 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 10:41 am, Dale wrote:
    On 6/22/2022 7:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 8:01 am, Dale wrote:
    Was Earth "whirl-ed" from Universal determinism? Like from a
    virtual particle?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle

    Or is it an eternal "plan-it" piece of Universal determinism
    that never began and will never end?

    Does a Pantheistic God, Universalism, every once in "a-why-le" >>>>>>>> try to toss things from its "ism"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

    "The Whole" cannot get rid of Universal determinism because it >>>>>>>> is what it determines to be?


    ...

    That is quite a tale, Dale.  I am sorry, but to me you seem to be >>>>>>> on the ale.

    as long as I am above illusion it is an instrument not an illness

    https://www.dalekelly.org/om.html



    ...



    How can you be above what you are?


    my will has moments in agreement with determinism

    my will has moments in disagreement with determinism

    determinism is God's will

    God puts heaven and heavenly temporariness in place by fairness of
    our definitions. comparisons of our soles

    All I can do is try to be fair. Here is my mantra ...

    https://www.dalekelly.org/mantra.html



    ...


    Fair enough.

    By the way, you look fairer without the long beard.



    I'll try for a mix that will make me look younger.



    ...


    The longer beard does make you look older.


    now I have to get metaphysics that matches it

    (I cut it off awhile ago)


    --
    Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to Dale on Fri Jun 24 12:23:52 2022
    XPost: free.metaphysics, talk.religion.pantheism, talk.religion.newage
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.metaphysics.lightwork

    On 24/06/2022 11:38 am, Dale wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 9:26 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 11:45 am, Dale wrote:
    On 6/22/2022 8:49 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 10:41 am, Dale wrote:
    On 6/22/2022 7:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 23/06/2022 8:01 am, Dale wrote:
    Was Earth "whirl-ed" from Universal determinism? Like from a
    virtual particle?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle

    Or is it an eternal "plan-it" piece of Universal determinism that >>>>>>> never began and will never end?

    Does a Pantheistic God, Universalism, every once in "a-why-le"
    try to toss things from its "ism"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

    "The Whole" cannot get rid of Universal determinism because it is >>>>>>> what it determines to be?


    ...

    That is quite a tale, Dale.  I am sorry, but to me you seem to be >>>>>> on the ale.

    as long as I am above illusion it is an instrument not an illness

    https://www.dalekelly.org/om.html



    ...



    How can you be above what you are?


    my will has moments in agreement with determinism

    my will has moments in disagreement with determinism

    determinism is God's will

    God puts heaven and heavenly temporariness in place by fairness of
    our definitions. comparisons of our soles

    All I can do is try to be fair. Here is my mantra ...

    https://www.dalekelly.org/mantra.html



    ...


    Fair enough.

    By the way, you look fairer without the long beard.



    I'll try for a mix that will make me look younger.



    The longer beard does make you look older.





    Michael Christ

    --
    Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
    an ignorant straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

    "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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