• Re: evolution ?

    From Athel Cornish-Bowden@21:1/5 to Dale on Mon Apr 14 18:15:55 2025
    On 2025-04-12 21:58:38 +0000, Dale said:

    God is the Eternal Universe ?

    There is Universal determinism ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

    Cause and effect ?

    Does God's consciousness differ a cause already put in place ?

    Impermanence is just an effect ?

    Complete impermanence has no permanence to scatter ?

    Multiverse would only be an impermanence of the Universe ?

    God would be the cause of evolution as well ?

    Does God just put good karma evolution into place considering all identities ?

    Those identities are the parts of God/Universe ?

    God is an identity to consider ?


    Here are some of my lately thoughts ...

    Isn't "thoughts" rather a grand term for what you post?

    https://www.dalekelly.org/weblog.html#text


    --
    athel cb : Biochemical Evolution, Garland Science, 2016

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 15 17:09:34 2025
    On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 07:22:11 +0000, the following appeared
    in talk.origins, posted by [email protected]
    (LDagget):

    On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 16:15:55 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

    On 2025-04-12 21:58:38 +0000, Dale said:

    God is the Eternal Universe ?

    There is Universal determinism ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

    Cause and effect ?

    Does God's consciousness differ a cause already put in place ?

    Impermanence is just an effect ?

    Complete impermanence has no permanence to scatter ?

    Multiverse would only be an impermanence of the Universe ?

    God would be the cause of evolution as well ?

    Does God just put good karma evolution into place considering all
    identities ?

    Those identities are the parts of God/Universe ?

    God is an identity to consider ?


    Here are some of my lately thoughts ...

    Isn't "thoughts" rather a grand term for what you post?

    https://www.dalekelly.org/weblog.html#text

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28969900/
    Semantic incongruity attracts attention at a pre-conscious
    level: Evidence from a TMS study
    Javier Ortiz-Tudela, Elisa Mart�n-Ar�valo, Ana B Chica, Juan Lupi��ez
    Cortex . 2018 May:102:96-106

    Crude reduction: if shown two photographs of a typical suburban
    backyard, one with a dog and one with a tiger, most people are
    more likely to take quick notice of the tiger than the dog
    because of what is termed a semantic incongruity. That's fancy
    terminology for a context mismatch. Dogs are a commonly
    occurring feature of suburban backyards while tigers are not.

    It could also be that, while dogs are generally companion
    but *may* be dangerous to humans, tigers definitely are.
    "Key on the threat" is fairly well documented.

    Extending this, many who read Dale's "thoughts" will have their
    attention shocked by the tigers scattered throughout. It is
    much the same if you read someone writing about smelling colors,
    or seeing scents.

    Dale's "thoughts" could well be nonexistent.

    It appears that the reaction to such things arises at a pre-
    conscious level and would normally be filtered out by processing
    of a normal healthy mind that was composing a set of thoughts.

    Some consciously push against such filtering, with or without
    the aid of psychoactive pharmaceuticals. This is perhaps good
    for some poets but dangerous in the hands of Vogons.

    A lack of semantic filtering seems like a good diagnostic of
    some challenging neurological conditions. Are the incongruities
    not noticed? Noticed but not filtered?

    It might all seem like navel gazing if it weren't for some very
    significant examples of semantic incongruities frequently
    spewing forth from Executive Functionaries with little apparent
    executive function (non-functioning filters). Bigly.

    Biden's gone, let him rest in peace.

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 17 09:03:23 2025
    On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 11:18:12 +0000, the following appeared
    in talk.origins, posted by [email protected]
    (LDagget):

    On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 0:09:34 +0000, Bob Casanova wrote:

    On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 07:22:11 +0000, the following appeared
    in talk.origins, posted by [email protected]
    (LDagget):

    A lack of semantic filtering seems like a good diagnostic of
    some challenging neurological conditions. Are the incongruities
    not noticed? Noticed but not filtered?

    It might all seem like navel gazing if it weren't for some very >>>significant examples of semantic incongruities frequently
    spewing forth from Executive Functionaries with little apparent
    executive function (non-functioning filters). Bigly.

    Biden's gone, let him rest in peace.

    Fair game I suppose

    ;-)

    , and I'm disinclined to wage a political
    proxy fight here. But I will ask you to consider two potential
    hells where one is sentenced to diagramming the sentences of
    46 or 47. One is infamous for verbal gaffs but that's in part
    because they can be found amidst a mostly coherent background.
    Moreover, one recognizes when they verbally stumble while the
    other plays cover-up games and blames those who noticed.
    You may have a last word if you feel the need, I won't continue.

    Nah; political "discussions" never go anywhere but down, and
    are off-topic here anyway.

    Have a good rest of the week, and a good weekend.

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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