• =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Observe_the_trend._It=E2=80=99s_happening._Give_it_time.?

    From Athel Cornish-Bowden@21:1/5 to MarkE on Wed Mar 12 11:47:50 2025
    On 2025-03-12 06:47:10 +0000, MarkE said:


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    Look, we'll probably always strongly disagree, but a rhetorical boxing
    match is at the expense of interesting discussion. I am willing to
    examine the less certain aspects of my own position.

    1. I've been quite open about being a mainstream Christian,

    I'm curious as to how you define a mainstream Christian. Is Martin, a
    Roman Catholic, a mainstream Christian? Is Ron, a Methodist, a
    mainstream Christian? Was I, when I was an Anglican, a mainstream
    Christian? Was Theodosius Dobzhansky, a practising Eastern Orthodox
    Christian, a mainstream Christian? Or do you just mean someone who
    follows Southern Baptist orthodoxy?

    therefore belief in an omniscient designer is assumed. The only reason
    I mentioned it here was to contrast solution space access, even at risk
    of stating the obvious. Not sure what your concern with this is?

    2. As I said above, you interpreted me to be saying "that evolution HAS
    to explore ALL available search space." I clarified that my meaning was
    not that, but rather the postulate "that evolution would NOT be able to explore all available search space." Do you accept this?

    3. I can appreciate there is some frustration in relation to the "what,
    why, where, and how" questions. I'm not actively avoiding them, and
    have given some broad suggestions here and there.

    An example I've give before is this: it is entirely valid to seek to
    show that human induced global warming is a real problem, regardless of whether or not you have a solution. Similarly, it is entirely valid to
    seek to show that naturalistic explanations of origins are inadequate, regardless of whether or not you offer an alternative hypothesis. That
    would in and of itself be of profound importance and value. Offering an alternative hypothesis (naturalistic or supernatural) would be also be
    of profound importance and value, but not necessary to validate the
    former.

    Open to exploring this further.


    --
    Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 38 years; mainly
    in England until 1987.

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