Remember when censorship was bad?
I was always against moderation because moderation can't
increase the number of conversation that you want. It
can only stop conversation that you're not tolerant of.
And it's always abused.
Like now.
On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 21:52:15 -0400
JTEM <[email protected]> wrote:
Remember when censorship was bad?
I was always against moderation because moderation can't
increase the number of conversation that you want. It
can only stop conversation that you're not tolerant of.
And it's always abused.
Like now.
Whachyaonnabout now? Did you try to post something even more
nonsensical than usual? In which case you need to complain^w take your
case to an unmoderated group. In the UK we have u.n.n.m for trolls to moan about how they can't troll properly any more.
On 18-Oct-24 08:46, jillery wrote:
On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 14:23:42 -0400, Kestrel Clayton
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 13-Oct-24 07:33, jillery wrote:
On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 17:06:26 -0400, JTEM <[email protected]> wrote:
RonO wrote:
It could be thunderbird or eternal september.
I was blocked some years ago for disputing the Gwobull Warbling
gospels.
Not on T.O., for better or worse.
Gosh. After all these years, the anti-science dingdongs are still
claiming the automod somehow identifies and deletes their best and most
devastating posts, while only letting the risible nonsense through. It's >>> nice to know some things never change.
--
[The address listed is a spam trap. To reply, take off every zig.]
Kestrel Clayton
"Every normal woman must be tempted, at times, to stoke the fire,
host the black mass, and begin eating hearts." � Rose Bailey
Wow, that's a really dark quote. Who's Rose Bailey?
Horror and weird tale writer, queer as in hey-you, self described
fantasy heartbreaker. Really cool girl and a dear friend.
On 13-Oct-24 07:33, jillery wrote:
On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 17:06:26 -0400, JTEM <[email protected]> wrote:
RonO wrote:
It could be thunderbird or eternal september.
I was blocked some years ago for disputing the Gwobull Warbling
gospels.
Not on T.O., for better or worse.
Gosh. After all these years, the anti-science dingdongs are still
claiming the automod somehow identifies and deletes their best and most devastating posts, while only letting the risible nonsense through. It's
nice to know some things never change.
On 19-Oct-24 12:35, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 10:28:07 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Kestrel Clayton
<[email protected]>:
On 18-Oct-24 08:46, jillery wrote:It sounds like a takeoff on Heinlein's comment:
On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 14:23:42 -0400, Kestrel Clayton
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 13-Oct-24 07:33, jillery wrote:
On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 17:06:26 -0400, JTEM <[email protected]> wrote:
RonO wrote:
It could be thunderbird or eternal september.
I was blocked some years ago for disputing the Gwobull Warbling
gospels.
Not on T.O., for better or worse.
Gosh. After all these years, the anti-science dingdongs are still
claiming the automod somehow identifies and deletes their best and most >>>>> devastating posts, while only letting the risible nonsense through. It's >>>>> nice to know some things never change.
--
[The address listed is a spam trap. To reply, take off every zig.]
Kestrel Clayton
"Every normal woman must be tempted, at times, to stoke the fire,
host the black mass, and begin eating hearts." � Rose Bailey
Wow, that's a really dark quote. Who's Rose Bailey?
Horror and weird tale writer, queer as in hey-you, self described
fantasy heartbreaker. Really cool girl and a dear friend.
(paraphrased):
"Every man must occasionally want to spit on his hands,
hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
I believe that dates from the '70s. I suppose it's possible
that yours came first.
Not Heinlein, but Mencken, in 1917. But otherwise, yes, that is exactly
what it is.
On Fri, 08 Nov 2024 23:34:24 +0000, *Hemidactylus* <[email protected]d> wrote:[]
jillery <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 22:26:14 +0000, *Hemidactylus*
<[email protected]d> wrote:
erik simpson <[email protected]> wrote:
On 11/6/24 3:37 AM, jillery wrote:
On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 17:13:34 -0400, JTEM <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>
jillery wrote:
Perhaps you mean "blocked" as in nobody
I mean "Blocked from posting." I mean "Not allowed to post."
This happened. Get over it. Move on.
You first.
JTEM acting as belligerent insult troll here probably had zero bearing on >Trump’s election. But you do you.All I see from this piece of shit is abusive narcissism. Obviously can’t
communicate with others in a humble and humane manner. Ignore it, though >>> DIG should step in and end him.
As history has showed time and again, and current events continue to
prove, ignoring willful stupidity is a dangerous thing. That's how
Trump won. Even otherwise intelligent people believe his lies when
they are said often enough.
And you do you. JTEM is an instantiation of the type you say should
be ignored, which is the point you ignore.
--Sig sep is missing the trailing space^
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 10:55:20 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
<[email protected]> wrote:
Ignore the ignorant!
We're in a post-truth world now.
"Ignorant" is a default state.
"Willfully stupid" is a matter of choice.
There's a difference.
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 08:57:35 -0500
jillery <[email protected]> wrote:
--Sig sep is missing the trailing space^
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
Ignore the ignorant!
We're in a post-truth world now.
Kerr-Mudd, John <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 08:57:35 -0500[snip]
jillery <[email protected]> wrote:
There’s always Socratic irony, which is a feigned epistemic state. Phil Hartman as Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.
--Sig sep is missing the trailing space^
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
Ignore the ignorant!
We're in a post-truth world now.
On 11/6/24 3:37 AM, jillery wrote:
On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 17:13:34 -0400, JTEM <[email protected]> wrote:I imagine DIG is behind this, long overdue. I don't know why we're
jillery wrote:
Perhaps you mean "blocked" as in nobody
I mean "Blocked from posting." I mean "Not allowed to post."
This happened. Get over it. Move on.
You first.
responded to your
disinformation.
Lol! Idiots were saying things like "unprecedented," in describing
the supposed warming the media told them they were seeing. Which is
retarded, because SEVERE climate changes have occurred overnight.
Literally overnight. Super volcanic eruptions have darken the skies,
world wide, sparking a Volcanic Winter.
Google it.
We're not even as warm as the last warm period! It's colder right
now, not warmer, during the Holocene than the last interglacial...
So there was a lot of disinformation being repeated, and I was
responding to it and I was blocked.
"not allowed to post" suggests some one, as opposed to some thing,
prevented you from posting. Too bad your own cited link shows nothing
and nobody blocking you from T.O.:
**************************
From: JTEM <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: jillery
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 17:11:30 -0400
Organization: Eek
Message-ID: <vf3rm2$isip$[email protected]>
This is the thread:***************************
https://groups.google.com/g/talk.origins/c/20oZDFrDdZk/m/AC5SFgjmjzkJ
OTOH your cited zombie thread from 2011 does show posters responding
to your disinformation. Not sure if you will ever get tired of
proving yourself wrong.
--
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
seeing his posts at all. Maybe some extra torture for a special case.
On 08-Nov-24 09:18, jillery wrote:
On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 22:26:14 +0000, *Hemidactylus*
<[email protected]d> wrote:
erik simpson <[email protected]> wrote:
On 11/6/24 3:37 AM, jillery wrote:All I see from this piece of shit is abusive narcissism. Obviously can’t >>> communicate with others in a humble and humane manner. Ignore it, though >>> DIG should step in and end him.
On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 17:13:34 -0400, JTEM <[email protected]> wrote:I imagine DIG is behind this, long overdue. I don't know why we're
jillery wrote:
Perhaps you mean "blocked" as in nobody
I mean "Blocked from posting." I mean "Not allowed to post."
This happened. Get over it. Move on.
You first.
responded to your
disinformation.
Lol! Idiots were saying things like "unprecedented," in describing >>>>>> the supposed warming the media told them they were seeing. Which is >>>>>> retarded, because SEVERE climate changes have occurred overnight.
Literally overnight. Super volcanic eruptions have darken the skies, >>>>>> world wide, sparking a Volcanic Winter.
Google it.
We're not even as warm as the last warm period! It's colder right
now, not warmer, during the Holocene than the last interglacial... >>>>>>
So there was a lot of disinformation being repeated, and I was
responding to it and I was blocked.
"not allowed to post" suggests some one, as opposed to some thing,
prevented you from posting. Too bad your own cited link shows nothing >>>>> and nobody blocking you from T.O.:
**************************
From: JTEM <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: jillery
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 17:11:30 -0400
Organization: Eek
Message-ID: <vf3rm2$isip$[email protected]>
This is the thread:
https://groups.google.com/g/talk.origins/c/20oZDFrDdZk/m/AC5SFgjmjzkJ >>>>> ***************************
OTOH your cited zombie thread from 2011 does show posters responding >>>>> to your disinformation. Not sure if you will ever get tired of
proving yourself wrong.
--
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
seeing his posts at all. Maybe some extra torture for a special case. >>>>
As history has showed time and again, and current events continue to
prove, ignoring willful stupidity is a dangerous thing. That's how
Trump won. Even otherwise intelligent people believe his lies when
they are said often enough.
Yah. The alt-right became the mainstream right in part because they knew
how to use social media to multiply their influence and give themselves
a disproportionate appearance of numbers and power.
Most folks who WEREN'T internet nazis enabled them by failing to
recognize their tactics and the intended impact. For example, "Just
ignore the trolls" is effective when the trolls are only seeking
attention, but it doesn't work when trolls are attempting to disrupt a
space, shift the political center of that space, or normalize toxic
ideas. "Ignore the trolls" is a big chunk of how open racism and eliminationist policies became acceptable again.
The internet creationism phenomenon was, in many ways, a prototype for
the alt-right. In 1999 I wondered if maybe we all took internet nutbars
too seriously; 25 years later, I know we didn't take them seriously enough.
On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 22:26:14 +0000, *Hemidactylus* <[email protected]d> wrote:
erik simpson <[email protected]> wrote:
On 11/6/24 3:37 AM, jillery wrote:All I see from this piece of shit is abusive narcissism. Obviously can’t >> communicate with others in a humble and humane manner. Ignore it, though
On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 17:13:34 -0400, JTEM <[email protected]> wrote:I imagine DIG is behind this, long overdue. I don't know why we're
jillery wrote:
Perhaps you mean "blocked" as in nobody
I mean "Blocked from posting." I mean "Not allowed to post."
This happened. Get over it. Move on.
You first.
responded to your
disinformation.
Lol! Idiots were saying things like "unprecedented," in describing
the supposed warming the media told them they were seeing. Which is
retarded, because SEVERE climate changes have occurred overnight.
Literally overnight. Super volcanic eruptions have darken the skies, >>>>> world wide, sparking a Volcanic Winter.
Google it.
We're not even as warm as the last warm period! It's colder right
now, not warmer, during the Holocene than the last interglacial...
So there was a lot of disinformation being repeated, and I was
responding to it and I was blocked.
"not allowed to post" suggests some one, as opposed to some thing,
prevented you from posting. Too bad your own cited link shows nothing >>>> and nobody blocking you from T.O.:
**************************
From: JTEM <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: jillery
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 17:11:30 -0400
Organization: Eek
Message-ID: <vf3rm2$isip$[email protected]>
This is the thread:
https://groups.google.com/g/talk.origins/c/20oZDFrDdZk/m/AC5SFgjmjzkJ >>>> ***************************
OTOH your cited zombie thread from 2011 does show posters responding
to your disinformation. Not sure if you will ever get tired of
proving yourself wrong.
--
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
seeing his posts at all. Maybe some extra torture for a special case.
DIG should step in and end him.
As history has showed time and again, and current events continue to
prove, ignoring willful stupidity is a dangerous thing. That's how
Trump won. Even otherwise intelligent people believe his lies when
they are said often enough.
On 08-Nov-24 18:10, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
Kestrel Clayton <[email protected]> wrote:
On 08-Nov-24 09:18, jillery wrote:JTEM uses tumblr (seriously?) and infests this group. Insignificant knuckle >> dragger.
On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 22:26:14 +0000, *Hemidactylus*
<[email protected]d> wrote:
erik simpson <[email protected]> wrote:
On 11/6/24 3:37 AM, jillery wrote:All I see from this piece of shit is abusive narcissism. Obviously can’t
On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 17:13:34 -0400, JTEM <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>I imagine DIG is behind this, long overdue. I don't know why we're >>>>>> seeing his posts at all. Maybe some extra torture for a special case. >>>>>>
jillery wrote:
Perhaps you mean "blocked" as in nobody
I mean "Blocked from posting." I mean "Not allowed to post."
This happened. Get over it. Move on.
You first.
responded to your
disinformation.
Lol! Idiots were saying things like "unprecedented," in describing >>>>>>>> the supposed warming the media told them they were seeing. Which is >>>>>>>> retarded, because SEVERE climate changes have occurred overnight. >>>>>>>>
Literally overnight. Super volcanic eruptions have darken the skies, >>>>>>>> world wide, sparking a Volcanic Winter.
Google it.
We're not even as warm as the last warm period! It's colder right >>>>>>>> now, not warmer, during the Holocene than the last interglacial... >>>>>>>>
So there was a lot of disinformation being repeated, and I was >>>>>>>> responding to it and I was blocked.
"not allowed to post" suggests some one, as opposed to some thing, >>>>>>> prevented you from posting. Too bad your own cited link shows nothing >>>>>>> and nobody blocking you from T.O.:
**************************
From: JTEM <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: jillery
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 17:11:30 -0400
Organization: Eek
Message-ID: <vf3rm2$isip$[email protected]>
This is the thread:
https://groups.google.com/g/talk.origins/c/20oZDFrDdZk/m/AC5SFgjmjzkJ >>>>>>> ***************************
OTOH your cited zombie thread from 2011 does show posters responding >>>>>>> to your disinformation. Not sure if you will ever get tired of
proving yourself wrong.
--
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
communicate with others in a humble and humane manner. Ignore it, though >>>>> DIG should step in and end him.
As history has showed time and again, and current events continue to
prove, ignoring willful stupidity is a dangerous thing. That's how
Trump won. Even otherwise intelligent people believe his lies when
they are said often enough.
Yah. The alt-right became the mainstream right in part because they knew >>> how to use social media to multiply their influence and give themselves
a disproportionate appearance of numbers and power.
I seriously doubt the fate of the so-called free world has hinged on
Most folks who WEREN'T internet nazis enabled them by failing to
recognize their tactics and the intended impact. For example, "Just
ignore the trolls" is effective when the trolls are only seeking
attention, but it doesn't work when trolls are attempting to disrupt a
space, shift the political center of that space, or normalize toxic
ideas. "Ignore the trolls" is a big chunk of how open racism and
eliminationist policies became acceptable again.
The internet creationism phenomenon was, in many ways, a prototype for
the alt-right. In 1999 I wondered if maybe we all took internet nutbars
too seriously; 25 years later, I know we didn't take them seriously enough. >>>
whether we’ve engaged some local (or loco) bozo troll JTEM’s screeds on >> some inconsequential newsgroup. Not really a case to be made under Kant’s >> "act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will
that it should become a universal law."
Steve Bannon he’s not.
Oh yeah, he's insignificant. But it does make me think of the broader
problem of giving kooks, goons, fools, and tools too much floor space
online.
JTEM wrote:
On 11/8/24 7:32 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
That’s largely outside your control. How much time do you want to
waste on
What was the most convincing evidence, for you, that Neanderthals
never interbred with so called moderns? You know, back before
the media ordered you to believe that they did.
What "Evidence" convinced you that Naledi was 2+ million years
old, back in 2015?
You could really surprise me here and be honest. Or you can
trot out your massive disorder, insist that you were always
on JTEM's side on these issues, and that's why you whine &
fuss like a little bitch about him.
Ain't holding my breath, sugar lumps.
erik simpson <[email protected]> wrote:
On 11/6/24 3:37 AM, jillery wrote:All I see from this piece of shit is abusive narcissism. Obviously can’t communicate with others in a humble and humane manner. Ignore it, though
On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 17:13:34 -0400, JTEM <[email protected]> wrote:I imagine DIG is behind this, long overdue. I don't know why we're
jillery wrote:
Perhaps you mean "blocked" as in nobody
I mean "Blocked from posting." I mean "Not allowed to post."
This happened. Get over it. Move on.
You first.
responded to your
disinformation.
Lol! Idiots were saying things like "unprecedented," in describing
the supposed warming the media told them they were seeing. Which is
retarded, because SEVERE climate changes have occurred overnight.
Literally overnight. Super volcanic eruptions have darken the skies,
world wide, sparking a Volcanic Winter.
Google it.
We're not even as warm as the last warm period! It's colder right
now, not warmer, during the Holocene than the last interglacial...
So there was a lot of disinformation being repeated, and I was
responding to it and I was blocked.
"not allowed to post" suggests some one, as opposed to some thing,
prevented you from posting. Too bad your own cited link shows nothing
and nobody blocking you from T.O.:
**************************
From: JTEM <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: jillery
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 17:11:30 -0400
Organization: Eek
Message-ID: <vf3rm2$isip$[email protected]>
This is the thread:***************************
https://groups.google.com/g/talk.origins/c/20oZDFrDdZk/m/AC5SFgjmjzkJ
OTOH your cited zombie thread from 2011 does show posters responding
to your disinformation. Not sure if you will ever get tired of
proving yourself wrong.
--
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
seeing his posts at all. Maybe some extra torture for a special case.
DIG should step in and end him.
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