There was a news report that I saw claiming that two Oklahoma house
bills passed the State Senate and had been sent to the Governor, but in
looking into the situation it looks like the bills haven't made it out
of committee at this time. I found records of an Oklahoma HB3543 (the
same number as the ID act) but it passed the Senate in 2022 and was sent
to the Governor, but it seems to be a different bill. There is a record
for the 2024 HB3543, but as of 2/06/2024 it was still in committee. The
report I saw was in March, so the Feb report may be old data, but I
haven't herd anything about what the Governor did.

https://legiscan.com/OK/bill/HB3543/2024

The 2022 HB3543 was a free speech in higher education bill. The IDiots
may have rewritten it to include the ID scam junk.

I found an article claiming that HB3122, HB3543, and HB1984 did not make
it out of committee (Mar. 6th), but it maybe claiming that just one of
the bills involving hiring public school chaplains did not make it out
of committee.

https://www.aol.com/bills-hire-chaplains-public-schools-120434888.html

Ron Okimoto

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On 2024-04-14 14:38:34 +0000, RonO said:

There was a news report that I saw claiming that two Oklahoma house
bills passed the State Senate and had been sent to the Governor, but in looking into the situation it looks like the bills haven't made it out
of committee at this time. I found records of an Oklahoma HB3543 (the
same number as the ID act) but it passed the Senate in 2022 and was
sent to the Governor, but it seems to be a different bill. There is a
record for the 2024 HB3543, but as of 2/06/2024 it was still in
committee. The report I saw was in March, so the Feb report may be old
data, but I haven't herd anything about what the Governor did.

https://legiscan.com/OK/bill/HB3543/2024

The 2022 HB3543 was a free speech in higher education bill. The IDiots
may have rewritten it to include the ID scam junk.

I found an article claiming that HB3122, HB3543, and HB1984 did not
make it out of committee (Mar. 6th), but it maybe claiming that just
one of the bills involving hiring public school chaplains did not make
it out of committee.

Do public schools have chaplains in the USA? That seems strange in a
country with no established religion. I don't think it would be
possible in France, for example.

https://www.aol.com/bills-hire-chaplains-public-schools-120434888.html

Ron Okimoto

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

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On 4/14/2024 10:32 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

On 2024-04-14 14:38:34 +0000, RonO said:

There was a news report that I saw claiming that two Oklahoma house
bills passed the State Senate and had been sent to the Governor, but
in looking into the situation it looks like the bills haven't made it
out of committee at this time.  I found records of an Oklahoma HB3543
(the same number as the ID act) but it passed the Senate in 2022 and
was sent to the Governor, but it seems to be a different bill.  There
is a record for the 2024 HB3543, but as of 2/06/2024 it was still in
committee.  The report I saw was in March, so the Feb report may be
old data, but I haven't herd anything about what the Governor did.

https://legiscan.com/OK/bill/HB3543/2024

The 2022 HB3543 was a free speech in higher education bill.  The
IDiots may have rewritten it to include the ID scam junk.

I found an article claiming that HB3122, HB3543, and HB1984 did not
make it out of committee (Mar. 6th), but it maybe claiming that just
one of the bills involving hiring public school chaplains did not make
it out of committee.

Do public schools have chaplains in the USA? That seems strange in a
country with no established religion. I don't think it would be possible
in France, for example.

https://www.aol.com/bills-hire-chaplains-public-schools-120434888.html

Ron Okimoto

The article indicates that Oklahoma was trying to do something that
Texas did. Apparently public schools in Texas can have chaplains, but
the question is how many religious beliefs do they have to support.
Some Satanic group is challenging in Texas.

Ron Okimoto

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On 2024-04-15 04:31:28 +0000, jillery said:

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 17:32:14 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-04-14 14:38:34 +0000, RonO said:

There was a news report that I saw claiming that two Oklahoma house>>
bills passed the State Senate and had been sent to the Governor, but

looking into the situation it looks like the bills haven't made it

of committee at this time. I found records of an Oklahoma HB3543

(the>> same number as the ID act) but it passed the Senate in 2022 and

sent to the Governor, but it seems to be a different bill. There

is a>> record for the 2024 HB3543, but as of 2/06/2024 it was still

committee. The report I saw was in March, so the Feb report may

be old>> data, but I haven't herd anything about what the Governor did.

https://legiscan.com/OK/bill/HB3543/2024

The 2022 HB3543 was a free speech in higher education bill. The
IDiots>> may have rewritten it to include the ID scam junk.

I found an article claiming that HB3122, HB3543, and HB1984 did not>>
make it out of committee (Mar. 6th), but it maybe claiming that just>>
one of the bills involving hiring public school chaplains did not
make>> it out of committee.

Do public schools have chaplains in the USA? That seems strange in

country with no established religion. I don't think it would

possible in France, for example.

https://www.aol.com/bills-hire-chaplains-public-schools-120434888.html

Ron Okimoto

In the U.S., there are usually school counselors, some of whom may incidentally also be chaplains. However, there can be no official
position of "chaplain" in U.S. public schools.

Slipping god in by the back door?


--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

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On 4/15/2024 12:31 AM, jillery wrote:

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 17:32:14 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-04-14 14:38:34 +0000, RonO said:

There was a news report that I saw claiming that two Oklahoma house
bills passed the State Senate and had been sent to the Governor, but in
looking into the situation it looks like the bills haven't made it out
of committee at this time. I found records of an Oklahoma HB3543 (the
same number as the ID act) but it passed the Senate in 2022 and was
sent to the Governor, but it seems to be a different bill. There is a
record for the 2024 HB3543, but as of 2/06/2024 it was still in
committee. The report I saw was in March, so the Feb report may be old
data, but I haven't herd anything about what the Governor did.

https://legiscan.com/OK/bill/HB3543/2024

The 2022 HB3543 was a free speech in higher education bill. The IDiots
may have rewritten it to include the ID scam junk.

I found an article claiming that HB3122, HB3543, and HB1984 did not
make it out of committee (Mar. 6th), but it maybe claiming that just
one of the bills involving hiring public school chaplains did not make
it out of committee.

Do public schools have chaplains in the USA? That seems strange in a
country with no established religion. I don't think it would be
possible in France, for example.

https://www.aol.com/bills-hire-chaplains-public-schools-120434888.html

Ron Okimoto

In the U.S., there are usually school counselors, some of whom may incidentally also be chaplains. However, there can be no official
position of "chaplain" in U.S. public schools.

It's only a matter of time. DEsantis signed law allowing "volunteer"
positions.

https://apnews.com/article/florida-ron-desantis-religion-education-government-d7694c5040cfec89c5edd256af1a96cc

the loophole here is that they aren't being paid, but they are in fact "offical" positions.

Couple that with the explicit christo-fascist edict of of DJT - "we must
make america pray again" (spoken when hawking his new bibles to his rubes)

The operative phrase there is "must make".

IOW - there is no more veil for the christian nationalists to hide
behind. They want the 1st amendment clause "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exercise thereof" removed.

They "must make" Americans pray to their god.

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