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  • Ping Burkhard - David Grumett article on Teilhard de Chardin

    From Martin Harran@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 4 06:28:52 2023
    I found this paper whilst digging into Telhard de Chardin's troubles
    with church authorities. The chances are that you are already familiar
    with it as the lead author, David Grumett, is a Senior Lecturer in
    Theology and Ethics University of Edinburgh, School of Divinity and I
    found this non-paywalled version on the University of Edinburgh
    website. If you aren't already familiar with it, then you might find
    it useful with your interest in the church-science interface.

    Grumett and co-author Paul Bently were given direct access to the
    Vatican papers relating to Teilhard and this article goes into detail
    on the issues involved and Teilhard's reaction to the imposition of
    six "propositions" by the Church authorities.

    https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/files/53087161/Grumett2018ZygonSixPropositions.pdf

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to Martin Harran on Mon Sep 4 08:50:42 2023
    On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 06:28:52 +0100
    Martin Harran <[email protected]> wrote:

    I found this paper whilst digging into Telhard de Chardin's troubles
    with church authorities. The chances are that you are already familiar
    with it as the lead author, David Grumett, is a Senior Lecturer in
    Theology and Ethics University of Edinburgh, School of Divinity and I
    found this non-paywalled version on the University of Edinburgh
    website. If you aren't already familiar with it, then you might find
    it useful with your interest in the church-science interface.

    Grumett and co-author Paul Bently were given direct access to the
    Vatican papers relating to Teilhard and this article goes into detail
    on the issues involved and Teilhard's reaction to the imposition of
    six "propositions" by the Church authorities.

    https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/files/53087161/Grumett2018ZygonSixPropositions.pdf

    That doesn't look like a pdf to me.

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From Burkhard@21:1/5 to John on Mon Sep 4 02:49:08 2023
    On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 8:55:25 AM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
    On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 06:28:52 +0100
    Martin Harran <[email protected]> wrote:

    I found this paper whilst digging into Telhard de Chardin's troubles
    with church authorities. The chances are that you are already familiar with it as the lead author, David Grumett, is a Senior Lecturer in Theology and Ethics University of Edinburgh, School of Divinity and I found this non-paywalled version on the University of Edinburgh
    website. If you aren't already familiar with it, then you might find
    it useful with your interest in the church-science interface.

    Grumett and co-author Paul Bently were given direct access to the
    Vatican papers relating to Teilhard and this article goes into detail
    on the issues involved and Teilhard's reaction to the imposition of
    six "propositions" by the Church authorities.

    https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/files/53087161/Grumett2018ZygonSixPropositions.pdf

    That doesn't look like a pdf to me.

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

    It's how our self-archiving system displays pdfs in your browser - if you download it, it's just
    a normal pdf.

    And also thanks to Martin - I knew some of it from a talk by him, but never followed it up, so
    will be interesting to read

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  • From Pro Plyd@21:1/5 to Burkhard on Sat Sep 9 21:32:41 2023
    Burkhard wrote:
    On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 8:55:25 AM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
    On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 06:28:52 +0100
    Martin Harran <[email protected]> wrote:

    I found this paper whilst digging into Telhard de Chardin's troubles
    with church authorities. The chances are that you are already familiar
    with it as the lead author, David Grumett, is a Senior Lecturer in
    Theology and Ethics University of Edinburgh, School of Divinity and I
    found this non-paywalled version on the University of Edinburgh
    website. If you aren't already familiar with it, then you might find
    it useful with your interest in the church-science interface.

    Grumett and co-author Paul Bently were given direct access to the
    Vatican papers relating to Teilhard and this article goes into detail
    on the issues involved and Teilhard's reaction to the imposition of
    six "propositions" by the Church authorities.

    https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/files/53087161/Grumett2018ZygonSixPropositions.pdf

    That doesn't look like a pdf to me.

    It's how our self-archiving system displays pdfs in your browser - if you download it, it's just
    a normal pdf.

    Tried FireFox and a couple chromium based browsers (windows), comes
    up fine. May have been something temporary.

    And also thanks to Martin - I knew some of it from a talk by him, but never followed it up, so
    will be interesting to read

    Yes, going through it. Boy, has prop 4 hit them over and over
    as science and knowledge passed them by...

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