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  • Biblical dinosaurs and rhetoric

    From jillery@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 16 05:19:44 2023
    Consider the following:

    Someone claims the Bible mentions dinosaurs:

    <https://www.openbible.info/topics/dinosaurs>

    Said person further claims that any reasonable person would understand
    that words like "behemoth" and "leviathan" et al necessarily refer to dinosaurs.

    QUESTION: How is the above functionally different from someone who
    claims that "common descent" necessarily refers to "universal common
    descent"?

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  • From Pro Plyd@21:1/5 to jillery on Fri Jul 28 23:37:37 2023
    jillery wrote:
    Consider the following:

    Someone claims the Bible mentions dinosaurs:

    <https://www.openbible.info/topics/dinosaurs>

    Said person further claims that any reasonable person would understand
    that words like "behemoth" and "leviathan" et al necessarily refer to dinosaurs.

    Said person is also using the English translation ;)

    QUESTION: How is the above functionally different from someone who
    claims that "common descent" necessarily refers to "universal common descent"?


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  • From jillery@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jul 29 09:04:35 2023
    On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 23:37:37 -0600, Pro Plyd
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    jillery wrote:
    Consider the following:

    Someone claims the Bible mentions dinosaurs:

    <https://www.openbible.info/topics/dinosaurs>

    Said person further claims that any reasonable person would understand
    that words like "behemoth" and "leviathan" et al necessarily refer to
    dinosaurs.

    Said person is also using the English translation ;)

    QUESTION: How is the above functionally different from someone who
    claims that "common descent" necessarily refers to "universal common
    descent"?


    Sadly, this question was received with deafening silence.

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  • From Pro Plyd@21:1/5 to jillery on Thu Aug 3 15:24:27 2023
    jillery wrote:
    On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 23:37:37 -0600, Pro Plyd
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    jillery wrote:
    Consider the following:

    Someone claims the Bible mentions dinosaurs:

    <https://www.openbible.info/topics/dinosaurs>

    Said person further claims that any reasonable person would understand
    that words like "behemoth" and "leviathan" et al necessarily refer to
    dinosaurs.

    Said person is also using the English translation ;)

    QUESTION: How is the above functionally different from someone who
    claims that "common descent" necessarily refers to "universal common
    descent"?


    Sadly, this question was received with deafening silence.


    Well, yes and no. I was taking the angle that much may depend on
    the translation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behemoth

    "The Hebrew word behemoth has the same form as the plural of the Hebrew
    noun בהמה behemah meaning 'beast'"


    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Leviathan-Middle-Eastern-mythology
    "The name Leviathan comes from the Hebrew Livyatan, which comes from a
    root that means “to twist, turn, wind, or coil.” "


    So your question re common/universal might need reframing.

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