Naledi. They found DNA. They recovered DNA very
early on. It's too close to humans, or at least some
populations of humans, and that's why they keep
making up all this bullshit.
You think I'm kidding. You think nobody would care
if anyone's ancestors did the naughty with Naledi.
You think. And I can prove you wrong:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-17/new-human-sparks-racism-row-in-south-africa/6783844
So my CONSPIRACY THEORY is that in order to
soften this non existing blow, in order to avoid the
invention of racism -- because it has never existed
before, right? -- they invented all the idiocy.
I mean, burials?
Modern brains?
Later big brains?
And now they breath smoke!
If I sat you down in 2010 and told you all this was
going to happen, and all these praise worthy paleo
anthropologists were going to make these finds and
make them this way... yeah, you wouldn't believe me.
You'd roll your eyes and accuse me of smoking too
much weed.
Like how the fire took six years to discover on account
of the fact that nobody looked up.
That's it. If they only looked up they would have seen
all this soot...
I'M STILL WAITING FOR THE HANG GLIDERS!
Why hang gliders? Because as super hyper advanced
Naledi was I just can't believe that they invented
powered flight...
So my CONSPIRACY THEORY is that they recovered DNA
and some idiots got worried.
Or maybe it's politics. You know, a couple of white guys,
foreigners, if they want to go dig in Africa they have to
bend the knee to the concerns of the local. Or else.
Is that it?
To be honest I don't care. The motives aren't all that
important -- though actually stated -- only the fact that
they are doing it. Making stuff up.
And, oh; this isn't the first time I have advanced this
CONSPIRACY THEORY.
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.anthropology.paleo/c/-r8Pf6cQFD4/m/gul4euZsCAAJ
There it is for your consideration.
Blessings. Upon me. Thanks in advance.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-17/new-human-sparks-racism-row-in-south-africa/6783844
There is no conspiracy.
"No-one will dig old monkey bones to back up a theory that I was once a baboon. Sorry,"
said Zwelinzima Vavi, former general-secretary of the powerful trade union group Cosatu,
which is a faithful ally of the ruling African National Congress (ANC).
No naledi DNA has been recovered.
There is zero evidence humans "did the naughty" with naledi.
jillery wrote:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-17/new-human-sparks-racism-row-in-south-africa/6783844
There is no conspiracy.
"No-one will dig old monkey bones to back up a theory that I was once a baboon. Sorry,"
said Zwelinzima Vavi, former general-secretary of the powerful trade union group Cosatu,
which is a faithful ally of the ruling African National Congress (ANC).
He's actually saying that he's going to stop them from digging.
: His comments were backed by the South African Council of Churches (SACC), which
: was historically involved in the fight against apartheid.
And..
: ANC member of parliament says discovery seems to be calculated to affirm apartheid
: and colonial narratives
YOUR point of view,
MY point of view is irrelevant. It's their country. You play by their
rules are you never play at all. And these people said that they were not going to
allow anyone to play BECAUSE of Naledi.
No naledi DNA has been recovered.
Maybe you're not too keen on the definition of a "Conspiracy Theory" but, if they
were saying that they recovered DNA then it wouldn't be a theory and there would
be no conspiracy.
Fact is, Naledi is not very old in the grand scheme of things, DNA had been >recovered under similar conditions, it has been recovered under WORSE >conditions and there are a ridiculous number of remains to cherry pick and >sample.
Oh, they've got DNA. No doubt.
Even the contamination isn't much of an issue. You sample the DNA of all
your staff and then they know what to screen out.
There is zero evidence humans "did the naughty" with naledi.
They called it an ancestor of humans.
So either people are descended from
them or got their DNA by doing the nasty. This is pretty obvious and you
need to be embarrassed for missing it.
There's inexplicable behavior, AN EXPLICITLY STATED motive and the
fact that the circumstances scream "This is perfect for recovering DNA."
But, look at you! I present a cite showing you how THEY feel, the people >whose country it is, the people who set the rules, and you're dismissing
it, pretending it doesn't matter because YOU don't feel that way.
You were incapable of seeing others.
Typical narcissist.
"Well who cares what the people who own the country and control who
can dig & where said? They don't matter. Only my opinion does."
Incorrect. More to the point, Vavi et al aren't the conspiracists to
whom you previously alluded.
YOUR point of view, MY point of view is irrelevant.
Incorrect. The above are not my words.
Oh, they've got DNA. No doubt.
They called it an ancestor of humans.
Cite who are "they".
You're a fucking idiot.
You are retarded.
This your disabling narcissistic personality disorder again.
Your crippling mental disorders won't allow it.
Let me
You can change handles but you can't change the stupid...
So, again, we have it stated that they were not going to allow people
to dig up Naledi, [...]
There's no reason to invent bullshit unless they had DNA.
You're a fucking idiot.
You are retarded.
The bullshit makes no sense in the absence of DNA.
They called it an ancestor of humans.
Cite who are "they".
I'm not going to.
Going on and on and on and on and on
Mentally unstable, jillery wrote:
[...]
You're saying that there can't be a conspiracy because the people
who would have to be behind it never said there was one.
Going on and on and on and on and on
So you're a totally DIFFERENT person who never read the thread, never
found a word to dispute yet you're highly emotionally in your reaction >towards me.
Hmm. And you think that pretending this -- that you're a "Different"
person behind the handles -- makes you look... good? Smart? Normal?
So there's an OVERTLY STATED motive for lying about Naledi. The
locals don't want any Naledi for an ancestor, and everyone on the planet
was told that, yes, Naledi was a new human ancestor.
You appear to have forgotten that I already knew your collegue and
fellow believer GondwanaTalks Verhaegen from
My beloved JTEM lovingly bestowed upon me:
You're saying that there can't be a conspiracy because the people
who would have to be behind it never said there was one.
Since you mention it, I said no such thing. Your posts reek of straw.
jillery wrote:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-17/new-human-sparks-racism-row-in-south-africa/6783844
There is no conspiracy.
"No-one will dig old monkey bones to back up a theory that I was once a baboon. Sorry,"
said Zwelinzima Vavi, former general-secretary of the powerful trade union group Cosatu,
which is a faithful ally of the ruling African National Congress (ANC).
He's actually saying that he's going to stop them from digging.
No naledi DNA has been recovered.
Maybe you're not too keen on the definition of a "Conspiracy Theory" but, if they
were saying that they recovered DNA then it wouldn't be a theory and there would > be no conspiracy.
Oh, they've got DNA. No doubt.
Typical narcissist.
You appear to have forgotten that I already knew your collegue and
fellow believer GondwanaTalks Verhaegen from
Wow. So you're emotionally disfigured by the good Doctor, have
absolutely no argument against him but suffer a compulsion to
react anyway, and he's not available right now so you're reacting
towards me, even though you have no argument against anything
I've said.
It's fate. It's going to happen. You are insane, you
are a sociopath and you believe your feelings
justify your acts....
[...]
You're a sick fuck, a danger to yourself and others.
I will personally sue the FBI when you start killing.
They have the power to stop you, and they refuse.
Well now that you cleared that up it makes so much sense... You're
insane!
Did you happen to notice the DATE on that link????
That was 13 October 2011 and I think we can safely assume that this has
been your modus operandi in the intervening 12 years.
Pro Plyd wrote:
Did you happen to notice the DATE on that link????
Yes. Here's another, as you quite clearly are having difficulty with this:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-fossil-find-gets-entangled-with-south-africa-s-apartheid-past/
So we have a perfect scenario for recovering DNA, a lot of bullshit
claims, a stated motive for all the bullshit... they have DNA.
You have no idea
Severely mentally ill, jillery wrote:
You have no idea
YOU have no idea. You don't. You're an idiot.
We have stated motives for all the bullshit about Naledi. We have
a ridiculous number of VERY tall claims, none of which you would
have ever believed if I banged them out on usenet back in 2005.
Even going back a few years ago, you would have laughed at the
latest claims if you had seen my typing them out here. It's all
bullshit. And the motives for the bullshit were stated YEARS ago.
So YOU don't know because your disability prevents you from
thinking. You need things spelled out for you in no uncertain terms,
and they have to be coming from a High Priest.
Methinks
So you admit your so-called facts are
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