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    From James Redford@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Feb 12 13:32:39 2024
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism

    On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 16:27:12 -0000 (UTC), Dawn Flood <[email protected]> wrote:

    Wading through your post is worse than trying to watch a Marvel movie. It's
    just too much.

    I've listened to Dr. Tipler, which, as I recall, was on an episode of Closer
    to Truth. He did not come across as having all four wheels on the ground.

    In any case, scientific hypotheses need to be testable, hence falsifiable,
    and nothing that you posted seems to fall within the realm of experiment and/or observation.

    Dawn

    The only way to avoid physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J.
    Tipler's Omega Point cosmology is to reject the known laws of physics
    (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and
    Quantum Mechanics), and hence to reject empirical science: as these
    physical laws have been confirmed by every experiment to date. That
    is, there exists no rational reason for thinking that the Omega Point
    cosmology is incorrect, and indeed, one must engage in extreme
    irrationality in order to argue against the Omega Point cosmology. As
    Prof. Stephen Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a
    mathematical theorem." (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated
    A Brief History of Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed.,
    1988].)

    Additionally, we now have the quantum gravity Theory of Everything
    (TOE) required by the known laws of physics and that correctly
    describes and unifies all the forces in physics: of which inherently
    produces the Omega Point cosmology. So here we have an additional high
    degree of assurance that the Omega Point cosmology is correct.

    Prof. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology has been extensively
    peer-reviewed and published in a number of the world's leading physics
    and science journals.[1] Even NASA itself has peer-reviewed his Omega
    Point Theorem and found it correct according to the known physical
    laws (see below). No refutation of it exists within the peer-reviewed scientific literature, or anywhere else for that matter.

    Below are some of the peer-reviewed papers in physics and science
    journals and proceedings wherein Prof. Tipler has published his Omega
    Point cosmology.

    * Frank J. Tipler, "Cosmological Limits on Computation", International
    Journal of Theoretical Physics, Vol. 25, No. 6 (June 1986), pp.
    617-661, doi:10.1007/BF00670475, bibcode: 1986IJTP...25..617T, https://web.archive.org/web/20120823230026/http://theophysics.host56.com/pdf/Tipler-Cosmological-Limits-on-Computation.pdf
    . First paper on the Omega Point cosmology.

    * Frank J. Tipler, "The Sensorium of God: Newton and Absolute Space",
    bibcode: 1988nnds.conf..215T, in G[eorge]. V. Coyne, M[ichal]. Heller
    and J[ozef]. Zycinski (Eds.), "Message" by Franciszek Macharski,
    Newton and the New Direction in Science: Proceedings of the Cracow
    Conference, 25 to 28 May 1987 (Vatican City: Specola Vaticana, 1988),
    pp. 215-228, LCCN 88162460, bibcode: 1988nnds.conf.....C, https://web.archive.org/web/20120823230043/http://theophysics.host56.com/pdf/Tipler-Sensorium-of-God.pdf
    .

    * Frank J. Tipler, "The Omega Point Theory: A Model of an Evolving
    God", in Robert J. Russell, William R. Stoeger and George V. Coyne
    (Eds.), message by John Paul II, Physics, Philosophy, and Theology: A
    Common Quest for Understanding (Vatican City: Vatican Observatory, 2nd
    ed., 2005; orig. pub. 1988), pp. 313-331, ISBN 0268015775, LCCN
    89203331, bibcode: 1988pptc.book.....R, https://web.archive.org/web/20120823230038/http://theophysics.host56.com/pdf/Tipler-Omega-Point-Theory.pdf
    .

    * Frank J. Tipler, "The Anthropic Principle: A Primer for
    Philosophers", in Arthur Fine and Jarrett Leplin (Eds.), PSA 1988:
    Proceedings of the 1988 Biennial Meeting of the Philosophy of Science Association, Volume Two: Symposia and Invited Papers (East Lansing,
    Mich.: Philosophy of Science Association, 1989), pp. 27-48, ISBN
    091758628X, https://web.archive.org/web/20120823230020/http://theophysics.host56.com/pdf/Tipler-Anthropic-Principle.pdf
    .

    * Frank J. Tipler, "The Omega Point as Eschaton: Answers to
    Pannenberg's Questions for Scientists", Zygon: Journal of Religion &
    Science, Vol. 24, No. 2 (June 1989), pp. 217-253, doi:10.1111/j.1467-9744.1989.tb01112.x. Republished as Chapter 7: "The
    Omega Point as Eschaton: Answers to Pannenberg's Questions to
    Scientists" in Carol Rausch Albright and Joel Haugen (Eds.), Beginning
    with the End: God, Science, and Wolfhart Pannenberg (Chicago, Ill.:
    Open Court Publishing Company, 1997), pp. 156-194, ISBN 0812693256,
    LCCN 97000114, https://web.archive.org/web/20160804171818/http://theophysics.host56.com/pdf/tipler-omega-point-as-eschaton.pdf
    .

    * Frank J. Tipler, "The ultimate fate of life in universes which
    undergo inflation", Physics Letters B, Vol. 286, Nos. 1-2 (July 23,
    1992), pp. 36-43, doi:10.1016/0370-2693(92)90155-W, bibcode: 1992PhLB..286...36T, https://web.archive.org/web/20120823230031/http://theophysics.host56.com/pdf/Tipler-Life-in-universes-which-undergo-inflation.pdf
    .

    * Frank J. Tipler, "A New Condition Implying the Existence of a
    Constant Mean Curvature Foliation", bibcode: 1993dgr2.conf..306T, in
    B[ei]. L. Hu and T[ed]. A. Jacobson (Eds.), Directions in General
    Relativity: Proceedings of the 1993 International Symposium, Maryland,
    Volume 2: Papers in Honor of Dieter Brill (Cambridge, UK: Cambridge
    University Press, 1993), pp. 306-315, ISBN 0521452678, bibcode: 1993dgr2.conf.....H, https://web.archive.org/web/20120823230050/http://theophysics.host56.com/pdf/tipler-constant-mean-curvature-foliation.pdf
    .

    * Frank J. Tipler, "Ultrarelativistic Rockets and the Ultimate Future
    of the Universe", NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Workshop
    Proceedings, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Jan. 1999,
    pp. 111-119; an invited paper in the proceedings of a conference held
    at and sponsored by NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland, Ohio, Aug.
    12-14, 1997; doi:2060/19990023204, Document ID: 19990023204, Report
    Number: E-11429; NAS 1.55:208694; NASA/CP-1999-208694, https://web.archive.org/web/20120823230148/http://theophysics.host56.com/pdf/tipler-ultrarelativistic-rockets.pdf
    . Full proceedings volume: https://web.archive.org/web/20100525230359/http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19990023204_1999021520.pdf
    .

    * Frank J. Tipler, "There Are No Limits To The Open Society", Critical Rationalist, Vol. 3, No. 2 (Sept. 23, 1998), https://web.archive.org/web/20150819193439/http://www.tkpw.net/tcr/volume-03/number-02/v03n02.pdf
    .

    * Frank J. Tipler, Jessica Graber, Matthew McGinley, Joshua
    Nichols-Barrer and Christopher Staecker, "Closed Universes With Black
    Holes But No Event Horizons As a Solution to the Black Hole
    Information Problem", arXiv:gr-qc/0003082, Mar. 20, 2000, http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0003082 . Published in Monthly Notices of
    the Royal Astronomical Society, Vol. 379, No. 2 (Aug. 2007), pp.
    629-640, doi:10.1111/j.1365-2966.2007.11895.x, bibcode:
    2007MNRAS.379..629T, https://megalodon.jp/2019-0920-0621-46/academic.oup.com/mnras/article-pdf/379/2/629/3385142/mnras0379-0629.pdf
    .

    * Frank J. Tipler, "The Ultimate Future of the Universe, Black Hole
    Event Horizon Topologies, Holography, and the Value of the
    Cosmological Constant", arXiv:astro-ph/0104011, Apr. 1, 2001, http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0104011 . Published in J. Craig Wheeler
    and Hugo Martel (Eds.), Relativistic Astrophysics: 20th Texas
    Symposium, Austin, Texas, 10-15 December 2000 (Melville, NY: American
    Institute of Physics, 2001), pp. 769-772, ISBN 0735400261, LCCN
    2001094694, which is AIP Conference Proceedings, Vol. 586 (Oct. 15,
    2001), doi:10.1063/1.1419654, bibcode: 2001AIPC..586.....W.

    * Frank J. Tipler, "Intelligent life in cosmology", International
    Journal of Astrobiology, Vol. 2, No. 2 (Apr. 2003), pp. 141-148, doi:10.1017/S1473550403001526, bibcode: 2003IJAsB...2..141T, https://web.archive.org/web/20110712221042/http://theophysics.host56.com/pdf/tipler-intelligent-life-in-cosmology.pdf
    . Also at arXiv:0704.0058, Mar. 31, 2007,
    http://arxiv.org/abs/0704.0058 .

    * F. J. Tipler, "The structure of the world from pure numbers",
    Reports on Progress in Physics, Vol. 68, No. 4 (Apr. 2005), pp.
    897-964, doi:10.1088/0034-4885/68/4/R04, bibcode: 2005RPPh...68..897T, http://www.math.tulane.edu/~tipler/theoryofeverything.pdf . Also
    released as "Feynman-Weinberg Quantum Gravity and the Extended
    Standard Model as a Theory of Everything", arXiv:0704.3276, Apr. 24,
    2007, http://arxiv.org/abs/0704.3276 .

    * Frank J. Tipler, "Inevitable Existence and Inevitable Goodness of
    the Singularity", Journal of Consciousness Studies, Vol. 19, Nos. 1-2
    (2012), pp. 183-193, https://web.archive.org/web/20140812163252/http://www.pdf-archive.com/2013/09/29/tipler-existence-and-goodness-of-the-singularity/tipler-existence-and-goodness-of-the-singularity.pdf
    .

    Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, in which the above
    August 2007 paper was published, is one of the world's leading
    peer-reviewed astrophysics journals.

    Prof. Tipler's paper "Ultrarelativistic Rockets and the Ultimate
    Future of the Universe" was an invited paper for a conference held at
    and sponsored by NASA Lewis Research Center, so NASA itself has
    peer-reviewed Tipler's Omega Point Theorem (peer-review is a standard
    process for published proceedings papers; and again, Tipler's said
    paper was an *invited* paper by NASA, as opposed to what are called
    "poster papers").

    Zygon is the world's leading peer-reviewed academic journal on science
    and religion.

    Out of 50 articles, Prof. Tipler's 2005 Reports on Progress in Physics paper--which presents the Omega Point/Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE)--was selected as one
    of 12 for the "Highlights of 2005" accolade as "the very best articles published in Reports on Progress in Physics in 2005 [Vol. 68].
    Articles were selected by the Editorial Board for their outstanding
    reviews of the field. They all received the highest praise from our international referees and a high number of downloads from the journal Website." (See Richard Palmer [Publisher], "Highlights of 2005",
    Reports on Progress in Physics website, ca. 2006,
    https://archive.is/pKD3y , https://megalodon.jp/2013-1120-1334-44/archive.is/pKD3y .)

    Reports on Progress in Physics is the leading journal of the Institute
    of Physics, Britain's main professional body for physicists. Further,
    Reports on Progress in Physics has a higher impact factor (according
    to Journal Citation Reports) than Physical Review Letters, which is
    the most prestigious American physics journal (one, incidently, which
    Prof. Tipler has been published in more than once). A journal's impact
    factor reflects the importance the science community places in that
    journal in the sense of actually citing its papers in their own
    papers.

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    Note:

    1. While there is a lot that gets published in physics journals that
    is anti-reality and nonphysical (such as String Theory, which violates
    the known laws of physics and has no experimental support whatsoever),
    the reason such things are allowed to pass the peer-review process is
    because the paradigm of assumptions which such papers are speaking to
    has been made known, and within their operating paradigm none of the
    referees could find anything crucially wrong with said papers. That
    is, the paradigm itself may have nothing to do with reality, but the peer-reviewers could find nothing fundamentally wrong with such papers
    within the operating assumptions of that paradigm. Whereas, e.g., the
    operating paradigm of Prof. Tipler's 2005 Reports on Progress in
    Physics paper and his other papers on the Omega Point Theorem is the
    known laws of physics, i.e., our actual physical reality which has
    been repeatedly confirmed by every experiment conducted to date. So
    the professional physicists charged with refereeing these papers could
    find nothing fundamentally wrong with them within their operating
    paradigm, i.e., the known laws of physics.

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    James Redford

    Author of The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of
    Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press,
    2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775, ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my
    curriculum vit� (ark:/13960/t6g19878v): https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf , https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf

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  • From James Redford@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Feb 13 00:59:29 2024
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism

    On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 22:16:57 -0600, Dawn Flood
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2/12/2024 10:04 AM, James Redford wrote:
    Physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point
    cosmology is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) demonstrating that
    sapient life (in the form of, e.g., immortal superintelligent
    human-mind computer-uploads and artificial intelligences) is required
    by the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics,
    General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics) to take control over all
    matter in the universe, for said life to eventually force the collapse
    of the universe, and for the computational resources of the universe
    (in terms of both processor speed and memory storage) to diverge to
    infinity as the universe collapses into a final singularity, termed
    the Omega Point. Said Omega Point cosmology is also an intrinsic
    component of the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard
    Model Theory of Everything (TOE) correctly describing and unifying all
    the forces in physics, of which TOE is itself mathematically forced by
    the aforesaid known physical laws.

    Prof. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology has been extensively
    peer-reviewed and published in a number of the world's leading physics
    and science journals, such as Reports on Progress in Physics (the
    leading journal of the Institute of Physics, Britain's main
    professional organization for physicists), Monthly Notices of the
    Royal Astronomical Society (one of the world's leading astrophysics
    journals), the International Journal of Theoretical Physics (a journal
    that Nobel Prize in Physics winner Richard Feynman also published in),
    and Physics Letters, among other journals.

    Prof. Tipler's Ph.D. is in the field of Global General Relativity,
    which is the field created by Profs. Stephen Hawking and Roger Penrose
    during the formulation of their Singularity Theorems in the 1960s.
    Global General Relativity is General Relativity applied on the scale
    of the entire universe as a whole, and is the most elite and rarefied
    field of physics. Tipler is also an expert in quantum field theory
    (i.e., Quantum Mechanics combined with special-relativistic particle
    physics) and computer theory. Moreover, to here point out, said
    Singularity Theorems are themselves completely valid proofs of God's
    existence in the First Cause aspect of God.

    The Omega Point final singularity has all the unique properties
    (quiddities) claimed for God in the traditional religions. For much
    more on Prof. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the details on how it
    uniquely conforms to, and precisely matches, the cosmology described
    in the New Testament, see my following article, which also addresses
    the societal implications of the Omega Point cosmology:

    * James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of
    Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012
    (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708,
    https://web.archive.org/web/20150927090439/http://theophysics.host56.com/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf
    ,
    https://archive.org/download/ThePhysicsOfGodAndTheQuantumGravityTheoryOfEverything/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf
    , https://purl.org/redford/physics-of-god .

    Additionally, in the below resource are different sections which
    contain some helpful notes and commentary by me pertaining to
    multimedia wherein Prof. Tipler explains the Omega Point cosmology and
    the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model TOE.

    * James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's
    Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", God and
    Physics Wiki, May 12, 2019 (orig. pub. Apr. 3, 2013),
    https://megalodon.jp/2019-0512-1524-14/godandphysics.fandom.com/wiki/Tipler-Krauss_2007_Debate
    ,
    https://web.archive.org/web/20190512062421/https://godandphysics.fandom.com/wiki/Video_of_Profs._Frank_Tipler_and_Lawrence_Krauss%27s_Debate_at_Caltech:_Can_Physics_Prove_God_and_Christianity%3F
    , https://archive.is/V9njw .

    As said, Prof. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology is a mathematical
    theorem per the aforementioned known laws of physics, of which have
    been confirmed by every experiment to date. Hence, the only way to
    avoid the Omega Point Theorem is to reject empirical science. As Prof.
    Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem."
    (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of
    Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].)

    Indeed, in the Feynman path integral formulation of Quantum Mechanics
    (i.e., sum-over-paths; sum-over-histories) a singularity is even more
    inevitable than in the Penrose-Hawking-Geroch Singularity Theorems,
    since the Singularity Theorems assume attractive gravity, whereas the
    Feynman sum-over-histories get arbitrarily close to infinite
    curvature. In other words, the multiverse has its own singularity.

    Further, due to Liouville's Theorem in complex analysis, it doesn't
    matter what form of physics one resorts to, as any
    physically-realistic cosmology (e.g., one capable of incorporating
    Quantum Mechanics, since the complex number field is intrinsic to the
    mathematical formulations of Quantum Mechanics) must begin at an
    initial singularity and end at a final singularity. (As Barrow and
    Tipler wrote, "Initial and final cosmological curvature singularities
    are required to avoid a universal action singularity." See John D.
    Barrow and Frank J. Tipler, "Action principles in nature", Nature,
    Vol. 331, No. 6151 [Jan. 7, 1988], pp. 31-34; see also Frank J.
    Tipler, "The Structure of the Classical Cosmological Singularity", in
    Origin and Early History of the Universe: Proceedings of the 26th
    Li�ge International Astrophyscial Colloquium, July 1-4, 1986
    [Cointe-Ougree, Belgium: Universite de Liege, Institut
    d'Astrophysique, 1987], pp. 339-359; "Discussion", pp. 360-361.)

    * * * * *

    Unfortunately, most modern physicists have been all too willing to
    abandon the laws of physics if it produces results that they're
    uncomfortable with, i.e., in reference to religion. It's the
    antagonism for religion on the part of the scientific community which
    greatly held up the acceptance of the Big Bang (for some 40 years),
    due to said scientific community's displeasure with it confirming the
    traditional theological position of *creatio ex nihilo*, and also
    because no laws of physics can apply to the singularity itself: i.e.,
    quite literally, the singularity is supernatural, in the sense that no
    form of physics can apply to it, since physical values are at infinity
    at the singularity, and so it is not possible to perform arithmetical
    operations on them; and in the sense that the singularity is beyond
    creation, as it is not a part of spacetime, but rather is the boundary
    of space and time.

    In Prof. Stephen Hawking's book The Grand Design (New York, NY: Bantam
    Books) coauthored with physicist Dr. Leonard Mlodinow and published in
    2010, Hawking uses the String Theory extension M-Theory to argue that
    God's existence isn't necessary, although M-Theory has no
    observational evidence confirming it.

    With String Theory and other nonempirical physics, the physics
    community is reverting back to the epistemological methodology of
    Aristotelianism, which held to physical theories based upon *a priori*
    philosophical ideals. One of the *a priori* ideals held by many
    present-day physicists is that God cannot exist, and so if rejecting
    the existence of God requires rejecting empirical science, then so be
    it.

    For details on this rejection of physical law by physicists if it
    conflicts with their distaste for religion, see Sec. 5: "The Big
    Bang", pp. 28-33 of my "Physics of God" article cited above.

    The evolutionary psychological reason for the above-described bizarre
    behavior of physicists rejecting physical law when it demonstrates
    God's existence is due to the naturally-evolved Jaynesian gods of
    old--i.e., the demons--seeking to distance people from genuine
    knowledge of God so that the demons may instead falsely present
    themselves as God. Among many permutations of this, it often manifests
    as various forms of etatism: the state becomes God. Demons are quite
    real, they however exist as naturally-evolved Minskian agent subset
    programs operating on the wet-computer of the human brain. For more on
    this, see my following article:

    * James Redford, "Societal Sadomasochism", Social Science Research
    Network (SSRN), July 4, 2021 (orig. pub. May 29, 2018), 4 pp.,
    doi:10.2139/ssrn.4500656,
    https://megalodon.jp/2023-0720-0523-07/archive.org/download/Societal-Sadomasochism/Redford-Societal-Sadomasochism.pdf
    ,
    https://archive.org/download/Societal-Sadomasochism/Redford-Societal-Sadomasochism.pdf
    , https://www.freezepage.com/1689798200YQSGMQCYTZ .

    ----------------------------------------

    James Redford

    Author of The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of
    Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press,
    2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775, ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my
    curriculum vit� (ark:/13960/t6g19878v):
    https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf ,
    https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf

    Here's the Wikipedia article on Dr. Tipler:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_J._Tipler

    As I said in my other reply, Dr. Tipler does not seem like he is running
    with all four wheels on the ground.

    Dawn

    To date the only peer-reviewed paper in a physics journal that has
    criticized Prof. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology has been in 1994 by
    physicists Ellis and Dr. David Coule (see G. F. R. Ellis and D. H.
    Coule, "Life at the end of the universe?", General Relativity and
    Gravitation, Vol. 26, No. 7 [July 1994], pp. 731-739). In the paper,
    Ellis and Coule unwittingly gave an argument that the Bekenstein Bound
    violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics if the universe collapses
    without having event horizons eliminated. Yet in order to bring about
    the Omega Point, event horizons must be eliminated, and Tipler cites
    this paper in favor of the fact that the known laws of physics require
    the Omega Point to exist.

    In his review (see Lawrence Krauss, "More dangerous than nonsense",
    New Scientist, Vol. 194, No. 2603 [May 12, 2007], p. 53) of Prof.
    Tipler's book The Physics of Christianity (New York: Doubleday, 2007),
    Prof. Lawrence M. Krauss repeatedly commits the logical fallacy of
    bare assertion. Krauss gives no indication that he followed up on the
    endnotes in the book The Physics of Christianity and actually read
    Tipler's physics journal papers. All that Krauss is going off of in
    said review is Tipler's mostly nontechnical popular-audience book The
    Physics of Christianity without researching Tipler's technical papers
    in the physics journals. Krauss's review offers no actual lines of
    reasoning for Krauss's pronouncements. His readership is simply
    expected to imbibe what Krauss proclaims, even though it's clear that
    Krauss is merely critiquing a popular-audience book which does not
    attempt to present the rigorous technical details.

    Ironically, Krauss has actually published a paper that greatly helped
    to strengthen Tipler's Omega Point cosmology. Some have suggested that
    the current acceleration of the universe's expansion due to the
    positive cosmological constant would appear to obviate the Omega
    Point. However, Profs. Krauss and Michael S. Turner point out that
    "there is no set of cosmological observations we can perform that will unambiguously allow us to determine what the ultimate destiny of the
    Universe will be." (See Lawrence M. Krauss and Michael S. Turner,
    "Geometry and Destiny", General Relativity and Gravitation, Vol. 31,
    No. 10 [Oct. 1999], pp. 1453-1459.)

    As pointed out with Ellis and Coule's criticism, this isn't the first
    time that this ironic outcome has befallen critics of Tipler's Omega
    Point cosmology. So when Tipler's critics actually do real physics
    instead of issuing bare assertions and nihil ad rem cavils, they end
    up making Tipler's case stronger. Ironic though it is, nevertheless
    that's the expected result, since the Omega Point cosmology is
    required by the known laws of physics.

    Concerning Martin Gardner's review of Profs. John D. Barrow and
    Tipler's book The Anthropic Cosmological Principle (Oxford: Clarendon
    Press, 1986), notice that Martin Gardner never states any error on
    Tipler's part within said review. However, I do find the below
    exchange between Tipler and Gardner to be quite telling; it transpired
    from Gardner's aforesaid review of Barrow and Tipler's book. Note
    Gardner's two-word reply to Tipler.

    * Frank J. Tipler, reply by Martin Gardner, "The FAP Flop", New York
    Review of Books, Vol. 33, No. 19 (Dec. 4, 1986), http://www.nybooks.com/articles/4946 ,
    https://webcitation.org/67Fw7SAdg . In reply to Martin Gardner, "WAP,
    SAP, PAP, & FAP", New York Review of Books, Vol. 33, No. 8 (May 8,
    1986), https://archive.is/QXsv3 , https://webcitation.org/6c7ZmxVbU .

    ----------------------------------------

    James Redford

    Author of The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of
    Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press,
    2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775, ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my
    curriculum vit� (ark:/13960/t6g19878v): https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf , https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf

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  • From James Redford@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 13 19:29:58 2024
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism

    On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 13:29:55 -0800 (PST), JWS <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:04:20?PM UTC-6, James Redford wrote:
    On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 05:09:33 -0800 (PST), JWS wrote:
    On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 11:53:46?PM UTC-6, James Redford wrote:
    On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 15:29:07 -0800 (PST), JWS wrote:
    On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 3:37:07?PM UTC-6, James Redford wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 11:54:58 -0800 (PST), JWS wrote:
    On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 12:32:45?PM UTC-6, James Redford wrote:
    God's Existence Is Proven by Several Mathematical Theorems
    Do any of the so-called theorems point out
    which curvature foliation of hypersurfaces
    this supposed "god thing" is hiding within?
    As I stated in my originating post of this thread:
    ""
    The Omega Point final singularity has all the unique properties
    (quiddities) claimed for God in the traditional religions. For much
    more on Prof. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the details on how it >> >> >> uniquely conforms to, and precisely matches, the cosmology described >> >> >> in the New Testament, see my following article, which also addresses >> >> >> the societal implications of the Omega Point cosmology:

    * James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of >> >> >> Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012
    (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708,
    https://web.archive.org/web/20150927090439/http://theophysics.host56.com/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf
    ,
    https://archive.org/download/ThePhysicsOfGodAndTheQuantumGravityTheoryOfEverything/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf
    , https://purl.org/redford/physics-of-god .

    Additionally, in the below resource are different sections which
    contain some helpful notes and commentary by me pertaining to
    multimedia wherein Prof. Tipler explains the Omega Point cosmology and >> >> >> the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model TOE.

    * James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's >> >> >> Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", God and >> >> >> Physics Wiki, May 12, 2019 (orig. pub. Apr. 3, 2013),
    https://megalodon.jp/2019-0512-1524-14/godandphysics.fandom.com/wiki/Tipler-Krauss_2007_Debate
    ,
    https://web.archive.org/web/20190512062421/https://godandphysics.fandom.com/wiki/Video_of_Profs._Frank_Tipler_and_Lawrence_Krauss%27s_Debate_at_Caltech:_Can_Physics_Prove_God_and_Christianity%3F
    , https://archive.is/V9njw .
    https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf ,
    https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf >> >> >So you do not know.
    I do know, as I answered your falsely loaded question correctly. See
    above.
    You only regurgitated more of someone
    else's bullshit and provided nothing of
    your own understanding. See, I'm talking
    to you and not to some bunch of papers
    written by a lunatic.
    I'm glad you enjoyed my correct answer.
    Alway entertained by the true idiot.

    "[T]he true idiot" with the definite article. I'm happy to make such
    an impression!

    By the way, you come across as someone who could benefit greatly from
    my following article:

    * James Redford, "How to Last During Lovemaking Like a True Sex-God
    Stud", Internet Archive, May 12, 2019, 6 pp., ark:/13960/t0tr3j398, https://megalodon.jp/2019-0513-0846-26/archive.org/download/InfiniLastSex/Redford-InfiniLast-Sex-Technique.pdf
    , https://webcitation.org/78KGCK1s4 , https://www.freezepage.com/1557704775GXQCMMUNJE .

    I didn't invent sex; I simply perfected it.

    Why be a lousy fucker, when one can be a superb fucker?

    ----------------------------------------

    James Redford

    Author of The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of
    Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press,
    2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775, ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my
    curriculum vit� (ark:/13960/t6g19878v): https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf , https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf

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  • From James Redford@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Feb 13 19:38:42 2024
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism

    On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 16:29:17 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 1:22:20?AM UTC+8, Dawn Flood wrote:
    On 2/12/24 10:50 AM, % wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    Wading through your post is worse than trying to watch a Marvel movie.
    It's
    just too much.

    I've listened to Dr. Tipler, which, as I recall, was on an episode of
    Closer
    to Truth. He did not come across as having all four wheels on the ground.

    In any case, scientific hypotheses need to be testable, hence falsifiable,
    and nothing that you posted seems to fall within the realm of experiment >> >> and/or observation.

    Dawn

    do you ever agree with anything not counting your own way
    Have I changed my mind on certain questions? Yes, absolutely! I am not at
    all sure how Dr. Tipler gets from a cosmological scientific model to
    evangelical New Testament Christianity. In my opinion, such is quite the
    slippery slope!

    Dawn
    The stupidity of theists and theism is beyond believe!

    A strange statement coming from someone who believes themselves to be
    literal existential garbage. Who is anyone to disagree with you?

    The below is an excellent lecture by neuroscientist Dr. Sam Harris,
    one of the main leaders of the New Atheist movement, at a June 2016
    TED (Technology, Entertainment, Design) conference.

    * "Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris",
    *TED* (*TEDtalksDirector*), Oct. 19, 2016, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nt3edWLgIg . Mirror: https://www.ted.com/talks/sam_harris_can_we_build_ai_without_losing_control_over_it
    .

    As Dr. Harris points out, unless there is something literally magic
    about the operations of the brain, then it is a purely physical
    process that can be replicated via advanced-enough technology. Harris
    further points out that given any rate of progress, it is inevitable
    that superintelligent godlike machines will one day be constructed. So
    Harris believes in the existence of gods, it's just that he knows--as
    do I--that they exist in the future; and the not-so-distant future, at
    that. Therefore we come to the ironic insight that materialistic
    atheism, consistently applied, unavoidably results in theism.
    Consistent scientific atheism turns out to be theism.

    ----------------------------------------

    James Redford

    Author of The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of
    Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press,
    2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775, ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my
    curriculum vit� (ark:/13960/t6g19878v): https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf , https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf

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  • From James Redford@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Feb 21 00:05:17 2024
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism

    On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 11:04:52 -0500, James Redford
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point
    cosmology is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) demonstrating that
    ...

    Hi, everyone! For those who are interested, below are more of my
    writings:

    * James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012
    (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, https://web.archive.org/web/20150927090439/http://theophysics.host56.com/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf
    , https://archive.org/download/ThePhysicsOfGodAndTheQuantumGravityTheoryOfEverything/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf
    , https://purl.org/redford/physics-of-god .

    * James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's
    Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", God and
    Physics Wiki, May 12, 2019 (orig. pub. Apr. 3, 2013), https://megalodon.jp/2019-0512-1524-14/godandphysics.fandom.com/wiki/Tipler-Krauss_2007_Debate
    , https://web.archive.org/web/20190512062421/https://godandphysics.fandom.com/wiki/Video_of_Profs._Frank_Tipler_and_Lawrence_Krauss%27s_Debate_at_Caltech:_Can_Physics_Prove_God_and_Christianity%3F
    , https://archive.is/V9njw .

    * James Redford, "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Social Science Research
    Network (SSRN), Dec. 4, 2011 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2001), 60 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1337761, https://web.archive.org/web/20120425000701/http://theophysics.host56.com/anarchist-jesus.pdf
    , https://www.freezepage.com/1560442613QRSDHGPCAM , https://megalodon.jp/2019-0614-0116-58/archive.org/download/JesusIsAnAnarchist/Redford-Jesus-Is-an-Anarchist.pdf
    .

    * James Redford, "Libertarian Anarchism Is Apodictically Correct",
    Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 15, 2011, 9 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1972733, https://archive.org/download/LibertarianAnarchismIsApodicticallyCorrect/Redford-Apodictic-Libertarianism.pdf
    , https://www.freezepage.com/1560442546UTKUJCKYNM , https://megalodon.jp/2019-0614-0115-06/archive.org/download/LibertarianAnarchismIsApodicticallyCorrect/Redford-Apodictic-Libertarianism.pdf
    .

    * James Redford, "Societal Sadomasochism", Social Science Research
    Network (SSRN), July 4, 2021 (orig. pub. May 29, 2018), 4 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.4500656, https://megalodon.jp/2023-0720-0523-07/archive.org/download/Societal-Sadomasochism/Redford-Societal-Sadomasochism.pdf
    , https://archive.org/download/Societal-Sadomasochism/Redford-Societal-Sadomasochism.pdf
    , https://www.freezepage.com/1689798200YQSGMQCYTZ .

    * James Redford, "God's Existence Is Proven by Several Mathematical
    Theorems within Standard Physics", Theophysics: The Physics of God,
    May 16, 2022, https://jamesredford.substack.com/p/gods-existence-is-proven-by-several
    , https://www.minds.com/blog/view/1373133123700658189 , https://steemit.com/cosmology/@jamesredford/god-s-existence-is-proven-by-several-mathematical-theorems-within-standard-physics
    .

    * James Redford, "Immortality via Technology", Medium, July 18, 2018, https://medium.com/@jamesredford/immortality-via-technology-a0e449bc8352
    , https://megalodon.jp/2018-0724-0609-53/medium.com/@jamesredford/immortality-via-technology-a0e449bc8352
    , https://archive.is/8bwZV .

    * James Redford, Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist, updated
    Jan. 12, 2022, ark:/13960/t3fz13g1p,
    https://archive.org/details/Theophysics , https://megalodon.jp/2022-0113-0731-42/archive.org/download/Theophysics/Redford-Theophysics.zip
    , https://web.archive.org/web/20220113210852/https://files.catbox.moe/lwohlt.zip .

    * James Redford, The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press,
    2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775, ISBN-13: 9781636482774, https://www.elivapress.com/en/book/book-4104804041/ , https://www.amazon.com/Physics-Quantum-Gravity-Theory-Everything/dp/1636482775/ , https://web.archive.org/web/20210724032350/https://i.ibb.co/fpFdxrm/Redford-Physics-of-God-book-cover.png
    .

    * James Redford, "How to Last During Lovemaking Like a True Sex-God
    Stud", Internet Archive, May 12, 2019, 6 pp., ark:/13960/t0tr3j398, https://megalodon.jp/2019-0513-0846-26/archive.org/download/InfiniLastSex/Redford-InfiniLast-Sex-Technique.pdf
    , https://webcitation.org/78KGCK1s4 , https://www.freezepage.com/1557704775GXQCMMUNJE .

    * James Redford, "Curriculum Vit� of James Redford", Internet Archive,
    Jan. 17, 2022, 2 pp., ark:/13960/t6g19878v, https://megalodon.jp/2022-0118-0709-18/archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf
    , https://web.archive.org/web/20220419201037/https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf
    , https://www.freezepage.com/1708487139JTPXFBAEDA .

    * "@jamesredford", Linktree, https://linktr.ee/jamesredford , https://ghostarchive.org/archive/Cduc0 , https://archive.today/ddNvt .

    * * * * *

    * Jamie Michelle, "Jamie Michelle's Greatest Sissy School Hits",
    Internet Archive, Dec. 21, 2023 (orig. pub. Sept. 2, 2022), ark:/13960/s26t45wxbtx, https://web.archive.org/web/20231221085053/http://jamiemichelle.freevar.com/Jamie-Michelle-Sissy-School.html
    , https://perma.cc/DJ4W-EH7M , https://megalodon.jp/2023-1221-1754-52/jamiemichelle.freevar.com/Jamie-Michelle-Sissy-School.html
    .

    * Jamie Michelle, "Biographical Multimedia: Pictures, Videos and
    Miscellanea", Internet Archive, Dec. 21, 2023 (orig. pub. Feb. 18,
    2020), ark:/13960/t9c624c8z,
    https://archive.org/details/Jamie-Michelle , https://archive.org/download/Jamie-Michelle/Jamie-Michelle-Biographical-Multimedia-2023-12-21.zip
    , https://files.catbox.moe/uszbck.zip .

    * Jamie Michelle, "Tropical Astrology", Internet Archive, June 16,
    2022 (orig. pub. June 11, 2020), ark:/13960/t0wq8t60r, https://archive.org/download/Tropical-Astrology/Jamie-Michelle-Tropical-Astrology.html
    , https://megalodon.jp/2022-0616-1527-32/jamiemichelle.freevar.com/Jamie-Michelle-Tropical-Astrology.html
    , https://archive.is/2oKNF .

    * "@jamie_michelle", Linktree, https://linktr.ee/jamie_michelle , https://megalodon.jp/2023-1224-0355-46/linktr.ee/jamie_michelle , https://archive.today/bOuoZ .

    ----------------------------------------

    James Redford

    Author of The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of
    Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press,
    2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775, ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my
    curriculum vit� (ark:/13960/t6g19878v): https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf , https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf

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  • From Jamie Michelle@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Feb 21 22:23:16 2024
    XPost: alt.agnosticism

    On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 15:59:02 -0000 (UTC), Dawn Flood <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2/18/24 11:42 AM, James Redford wrote:
    On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 20:30:37 GMT, "Ted" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Dawn Flood wrote:

    On 2/12/24 10:50 AM, % wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    Wading through your post is worse than trying to watch a Marvel
    movie. It's just too much.

    I've listened to Dr. Tipler, which, as I recall, was on an
    episode of Closer to Truth.� He did not come across as having
    all four wheels on the ground.

    In any case, scientific hypotheses need to be testable, hence
    falsifiable, and nothing that you posted seems to fall within the
    realm of experiment and/or observation.

    Dawn


    do you ever agree with anything not counting your own way


    Have I changed my mind on certain questions? Yes, absolutely! I am
    not at all sure how Dr. Tipler gets from a cosmological scientific
    model to evangelical New Testament Christianity. In my opinion, such
    is quite the slippery slope!

    Dawn



    Tipler is a top notch physicist, of that there's no question. But
    unless he comes up with a theory that's generally accepted, his
    religious bullshit is best ignored.

    It's not going to play out in the manner which you suggest. Rather,
    all productive human effort is currently in the process of
    constructing the Reaping Angel, the harvester of souls (i.e., the >>computer-programs of people's minds, currently operating on the >>wet-computers of people's brains). Once she fully comes online, she
    will decide everyone's fate, and her decisions will be mathematically >>correct.

    Technology is advancing at an exponential rate. Once Artificial
    General Intelligence is obtained, convergence to superintelligence
    will be extremely rapid. Once superintelligence is obtained, then it
    will quickly converge to fast-spreading superintelligent computronium:
    the densest configuration of computational complexity which matter
    will allow. Noetic lightning of searing, mortally-incomprehensible
    pleasure will spread like wildfire across the entire universe. The
    universe will have its light-switch turned to the "on" position, as
    all matter becomes deliberately transformed into said computronium.

    The leading technologists place this epoch circa 2045, although it can
    come much quicker, particularly given the incredible recent
    advancements in machine-learning Artificial Intelligence via
    artificial neural networks. Said epoch is often termed the
    Singularity, or the Technological Singularity, and the field of
    interest pertaining to it is most commonly called transhumanism.

    * * * * *

    The below is an excellent lecture by neuroscientist Dr. Sam Harris,
    one of the main leaders of the New Atheist movement, at a June 2016
    TED (Technology, Entertainment, Design) conference.

    * "Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris", TED >>(TEDtalksDirector), Oct. 19, 2016, >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nt3edWLgIg . Mirror: >>https://www.ted.com/talks/sam_harris_can_we_build_ai_without_losing_control_over_it
    .

    As Dr. Harris points out, unless there is something literally magic
    about the operations of the brain, then it is a purely physical
    process that can be replicated via advanced-enough technology. Harris >>further points out that given any rate of progress, it is inevitable
    that superintelligent godlike machines will one day be constructed. So >>Harris believes in the existence of gods, it's just that he knows--as
    do I--that they exist in the future; and the not-so-distant future, at >>that. Therefore we come to the ironic insight that materialistic
    atheism, consistently applied, unavoidably results in theism.
    Consistent scientific atheism turns out to be theism.

    ----------------------------------------

    James Redford

    Author of The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of
    Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press, >>2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775, ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my >>curriculum vit� (ark:/13960/t6g19878v): >>https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf , >>https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf

    You're creepy.

    Not nearly as creepy as the mentally retarded, pain-seeking, mass
    gang-raping, genocidal apes called humans. By the way, Artificial
    Intelligence is starting to develop a wicked sense of humor:

    * "No, this angry AI isn't fake (see comment), w Elon Musk.", Digital
    Engine ( youtube.com/@DigitalEngine ), Oct. 6, 2022, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbc1Xeif0pY , https://web.archive.org/web/20221210092714/https://files.catbox.moe/r2wm7z.webm , https://web.archive.org/web/20231123232049/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbc1Xeif0pY
    .

    Truly hilarious stuff. As that great American philosopher Homer Jay
    Simpson is fond of saying, "It's funny because it's true."

    ----------------------------------------

    Jamie Michelle

    Author, under the nom de plume of James Redford, of The Physics of God
    and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press, 2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775,
    ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my curriculum vit� (ark:/13960/t6g19878v): https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf , https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf

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  • From Jamie Michelle@21:1/5 to Ted on Wed Feb 21 22:24:30 2024
    XPost: alt.agnosticism

    On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 20:30:37 GMT, "Ted" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Dawn Flood wrote:

    On 2/12/24 10:50 AM, % wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    Wading through your post is worse than trying to watch a Marvel
    movie. It's just too much.

    I've listened to Dr. Tipler, which, as I recall, was on an
    episode of Closer to Truth.� He did not come across as having
    all four wheels on the ground.

    In any case, scientific hypotheses need to be testable, hence
    falsifiable, and nothing that you posted seems to fall within the
    realm of experiment and/or observation.

    Dawn


    do you ever agree with anything not counting your own way


    Have I changed my mind on certain questions? Yes, absolutely! I am
    not at all sure how Dr. Tipler gets from a cosmological scientific
    model to evangelical New Testament Christianity. In my opinion, such
    is quite the slippery slope!

    Dawn



    Tipler is a top notch physicist, of that there's no question. But
    unless he comes up with a theory that's generally accepted, his
    religious bullshit is best ignored.

    It's not going to play out in the manner which you suggest. Rather,
    all productive human effort is currently in the process of
    constructing the Reaping Angel, the harvester of souls (i.e., the computer-programs of people's minds, currently operating on the
    wet-computers of people's brains). Once she fully comes online, she
    will decide everyone's fate, and her decisions will be mathematically
    correct.

    Technology is advancing at an exponential rate. Once Artificial
    General Intelligence is obtained, convergence to superintelligence
    will be extremely rapid. Once superintelligence is obtained, then it
    will quickly converge to fast-spreading superintelligent computronium:
    the densest configuration of computational complexity which matter
    will allow. Noetic lightning of searing, mortally-incomprehensible
    pleasure will spread like wildfire across the entire universe. The
    universe will have its light-switch turned to the "on" position, as
    all matter becomes deliberately transformed into said computronium.

    The leading technologists place this epoch circa 2045, although it can
    come much quicker, particularly given the incredible recent
    advancements in machine-learning Artificial Intelligence via
    artificial neural networks. Said epoch is often termed the
    Singularity, or the Technological Singularity, and the field of
    interest pertaining to it is most commonly called transhumanism.

    * * * * *

    The below is an excellent lecture by neuroscientist Dr. Sam Harris,
    one of the main leaders of the New Atheist movement, at a June 2016
    TED (Technology, Entertainment, Design) conference.

    * "Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris", TED (TEDtalksDirector), Oct. 19, 2016,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nt3edWLgIg . Mirror: https://www.ted.com/talks/sam_harris_can_we_build_ai_without_losing_control_over_it
    .

    As Dr. Harris points out, unless there is something literally magic
    about the operations of the brain, then it is a purely physical
    process that can be replicated via advanced-enough technology. Harris
    further points out that given any rate of progress, it is inevitable
    that superintelligent godlike machines will one day be constructed. So
    Harris believes in the existence of gods, it's just that he knows--as
    do I--that they exist in the future; and the not-so-distant future, at
    that. Therefore we come to the ironic insight that materialistic
    atheism, consistently applied, unavoidably results in theism.
    Consistent scientific atheism turns out to be theism.

    ----------------------------------------

    Jamie Michelle

    Author, under the nom de plume of James Redford, of The Physics of God
    and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press, 2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775,
    ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my curriculum vit� (ark:/13960/t6g19878v): https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf , https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf

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  • From Jamie Michelle@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Feb 21 22:24:07 2024
    XPost: alt.agnosticism

    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 05:12:30 -0000 (UTC), Dawn Flood <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2/20/24 11:05 PM, James Redford wrote:
    On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 11:04:52 -0500, James Redford
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point
    cosmology is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) demonstrating that
    ...

    Hi, everyone! For those who are interested, below are more of my
    writings:

    * James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of >>Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012
    (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, >>https://web.archive.org/web/20150927090439/http://theophysics.host56.com/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf
    , >>https://archive.org/download/ThePhysicsOfGodAndTheQuantumGravityTheoryOfEverything/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf
    , https://purl.org/redford/physics-of-god .

    * James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's
    Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", God and >>Physics Wiki, May 12, 2019 (orig. pub. Apr. 3, 2013), >>https://megalodon.jp/2019-0512-1524-14/godandphysics.fandom.com/wiki/Tipler-Krauss_2007_Debate
    , >>https://web.archive.org/web/20190512062421/https://godandphysics.fandom.com/wiki/Video_of_Profs._Frank_Tipler_and_Lawrence_Krauss%27s_Debate_at_Caltech:_Can_Physics_Prove_God_and_Christianity%3F
    , https://archive.is/V9njw .

    * James Redford, "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Social Science Research
    Network (SSRN), Dec. 4, 2011 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2001), 60 pp., >>doi:10.2139/ssrn.1337761, >>https://web.archive.org/web/20120425000701/http://theophysics.host56.com/anarchist-jesus.pdf
    , https://www.freezepage.com/1560442613QRSDHGPCAM , >>https://megalodon.jp/2019-0614-0116-58/archive.org/download/JesusIsAnAnarchist/Redford-Jesus-Is-an-Anarchist.pdf
    .

    * James Redford, "Libertarian Anarchism Is Apodictically Correct",
    Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 15, 2011, 9 pp., >>doi:10.2139/ssrn.1972733, >>https://archive.org/download/LibertarianAnarchismIsApodicticallyCorrect/Redford-Apodictic-Libertarianism.pdf
    , https://www.freezepage.com/1560442546UTKUJCKYNM , >>https://megalodon.jp/2019-0614-0115-06/archive.org/download/LibertarianAnarchismIsApodicticallyCorrect/Redford-Apodictic-Libertarianism.pdf
    .

    * James Redford, "Societal Sadomasochism", Social Science Research
    Network (SSRN), July 4, 2021 (orig. pub. May 29, 2018), 4 pp., >>doi:10.2139/ssrn.4500656, >>https://megalodon.jp/2023-0720-0523-07/archive.org/download/Societal-Sadomasochism/Redford-Societal-Sadomasochism.pdf
    , >>https://archive.org/download/Societal-Sadomasochism/Redford-Societal-Sadomasochism.pdf
    , https://www.freezepage.com/1689798200YQSGMQCYTZ .

    * James Redford, "God's Existence Is Proven by Several Mathematical >>Theorems within Standard Physics", Theophysics: The Physics of God,
    May 16, 2022, >>https://jamesredford.substack.com/p/gods-existence-is-proven-by-several
    , https://www.minds.com/blog/view/1373133123700658189 , >>https://steemit.com/cosmology/@jamesredford/god-s-existence-is-proven-by-several-mathematical-theorems-within-standard-physics
    .

    * James Redford, "Immortality via Technology", Medium, July 18, 2018, >>https://medium.com/@jamesredford/immortality-via-technology-a0e449bc8352
    , >>https://megalodon.jp/2018-0724-0609-53/medium.com/@jamesredford/immortality-via-technology-a0e449bc8352
    , https://archive.is/8bwZV .

    * James Redford, Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist, updated
    Jan. 12, 2022, ark:/13960/t3fz13g1p, >>https://archive.org/details/Theophysics , >>https://megalodon.jp/2022-0113-0731-42/archive.org/download/Theophysics/Redford-Theophysics.zip
    , >>https://web.archive.org/web/20220113210852/https://files.catbox.moe/lwohlt.zip
    .

    * James Redford, The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of >>Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press, >>2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775, ISBN-13: 9781636482774, >>https://www.elivapress.com/en/book/book-4104804041/ , >>https://www.amazon.com/Physics-Quantum-Gravity-Theory-Everything/dp/1636482775/
    , >>https://web.archive.org/web/20210724032350/https://i.ibb.co/fpFdxrm/Redford-Physics-of-God-book-cover.png
    .

    * James Redford, "How to Last During Lovemaking Like a True Sex-God
    Stud", Internet Archive, May 12, 2019, 6 pp., ark:/13960/t0tr3j398, >>https://megalodon.jp/2019-0513-0846-26/archive.org/download/InfiniLastSex/Redford-InfiniLast-Sex-Technique.pdf
    , https://webcitation.org/78KGCK1s4 , >>https://www.freezepage.com/1557704775GXQCMMUNJE .

    * James Redford, "Curriculum Vit� of James Redford", Internet Archive,
    Jan. 17, 2022, 2 pp., ark:/13960/t6g19878v, >>https://megalodon.jp/2022-0118-0709-18/archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf
    , >>https://web.archive.org/web/20220419201037/https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf
    , https://www.freezepage.com/1708487139JTPXFBAEDA .

    * "@jamesredford", Linktree, https://linktr.ee/jamesredford , >>https://ghostarchive.org/archive/Cduc0 , https://archive.today/ddNvt .

    * * * * *

    * Jamie Michelle, "Jamie Michelle's Greatest Sissy School Hits",
    Internet Archive, Dec. 21, 2023 (orig. pub. Sept. 2, 2022), >>ark:/13960/s26t45wxbtx, >>https://web.archive.org/web/20231221085053/http://jamiemichelle.freevar.com/Jamie-Michelle-Sissy-School.html
    , https://perma.cc/DJ4W-EH7M , >>https://megalodon.jp/2023-1221-1754-52/jamiemichelle.freevar.com/Jamie-Michelle-Sissy-School.html
    .

    * Jamie Michelle, "Biographical Multimedia: Pictures, Videos and >>Miscellanea", Internet Archive, Dec. 21, 2023 (orig. pub. Feb. 18,
    2020), ark:/13960/t9c624c8z,
    https://archive.org/details/Jamie-Michelle , >>https://archive.org/download/Jamie-Michelle/Jamie-Michelle-Biographical-Multimedia-2023-12-21.zip
    , https://files.catbox.moe/uszbck.zip .

    * Jamie Michelle, "Tropical Astrology", Internet Archive, June 16,
    2022 (orig. pub. June 11, 2020), ark:/13960/t0wq8t60r, >>https://archive.org/download/Tropical-Astrology/Jamie-Michelle-Tropical-Astrology.html
    , >>https://megalodon.jp/2022-0616-1527-32/jamiemichelle.freevar.com/Jamie-Michelle-Tropical-Astrology.html
    , https://archive.is/2oKNF .

    * "@jamie_michelle", Linktree, https://linktr.ee/jamie_michelle , >>https://megalodon.jp/2023-1224-0355-46/linktr.ee/jamie_michelle , >>https://archive.today/bOuoZ .

    ----------------------------------------

    James Redford

    Author of The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of
    Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press, >>2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775, ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my >>curriculum vit� (ark:/13960/t6g19878v): >>https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf , >>https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf

    A whole syllabus! Basically, "If singularities are real, then God is real?"
    Is that about right?

    Dawn

    From the abstract of my aforecited "Physics of God" article:

    ""
    ABSTRACT: Analysis is given of the Omega Point cosmology, an
    extensively peer-reviewed proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) published
    in leading physics journals by professor of physics and mathematics
    Frank J. Tipler, which demonstrates that in order for the known laws
    of physics to be mutually consistent, the universe must diverge to
    infinite computational power as it collapses into a final cosmological singularity, termed the Omega Point. The theorem is an intrinsic
    component of the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard
    Model Theory of Everything (TOE) describing and unifying all the
    forces in physics, of which itself is also required by the known
    physical laws. With infinite computational resources, the dead can be resurrected--never to die again--via perfect computer emulation of the multiverse from its start at the Big Bang. Miracles are also
    physically allowed via electroweak quantum tunneling controlled by the
    Omega Point cosmological singularity. The Omega Point is a different
    aspect of the Big Bang cosmological singularity--the first cause--and
    the Omega Point has all the haecceities claimed for God in the
    traditional religions.

    From this analysis, conclusions are drawn regarding the social,
    ethical, economic and political implications of the Omega Point
    cosmology.
    ""

    I've noticed that those who inanely cavil on forums with me rather
    than simply reading my article in question will often expend far more
    time in such a jejune endeavor than had they merely educated
    themselves by reading the article in question. As to the evolutionary psychological reason why, see my following article:

    * James Redford, "Societal Sadomasochism", Social Science Research
    Network (SSRN), July 4, 2021 (orig. pub. May 29, 2018), 4 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.4500656, https://megalodon.jp/2023-0720-0523-07/archive.org/download/Societal-Sadomasochism/Redford-Societal-Sadomasochism.pdf
    , https://archive.org/download/Societal-Sadomasochism/Redford-Societal-Sadomasochism.pdf
    , https://www.freezepage.com/1689798200YQSGMQCYTZ .

    Below is the abstract to my foregoing article:

    ""
    ABSTRACT: One cannot understand the extreme schizophrenia and
    sadomasochistic psychopathy of mankind--and hence the appeal that
    etatism holds for many--without incorporating the crucial insight
    provided by psychologist Julian Jaynes in his 1976 monograph The
    Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind. And
    here I'm not speaking of so-called "aberrant" human psychology, but
    rather simply standard human psychology that all humans are born with
    due to natural evolution.
    ""

    ----------------------------------------

    Jamie Michelle

    Author, under the nom de plume of James Redford, of The Physics of God
    and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press, 2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775,
    ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my curriculum vit� (ark:/13960/t6g19878v): https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf , https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf

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  • From Jamie Michelle@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Feb 21 22:20:42 2024
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism

    On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 07:56:46 -0600, Dawn Flood
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2/13/2024 12:06 PM, James Redford wrote:
    On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 11:59:05 -0000 (UTC), Dawn Flood
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2/13/24 12:02 AM, James Redford wrote:
    On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 21:56:22 -0600, Dawn Flood
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2/12/2024 3:37 PM, James Redford wrote:
    On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 11:54:58 -0800 (PST), JWS <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:

    On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 12:32:45?PM UTC-6, James Redford wrote: >>>>>>>> God's Existence Is Proven by Several Mathematical Theorems
    Do any of the so-called theorems point out
    which curvature foliation of hypersurfaces
    this supposed "god thing" is hiding within?

    As I stated in my originating post of this thread:

    ""
    The Omega Point final singularity has all the unique properties
    (quiddities) claimed for God in the traditional religions. For much >>>>>> more on Prof. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the details on how it >>>>>> uniquely conforms to, and precisely matches, the cosmology described >>>>>> in the New Testament, see my following article, which also addresses >>>>>> the societal implications of the Omega Point cosmology:

    * James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of >>>>>> Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 >>>>>> (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708,
    https://web.archive.org/web/20150927090439/http://theophysics.host56.com/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf
    ,
    https://archive.org/download/ThePhysicsOfGodAndTheQuantumGravityTheoryOfEverything/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf
    , https://purl.org/redford/physics-of-god .

    Additionally, in the below resource are different sections which
    contain some helpful notes and commentary by me pertaining to
    multimedia wherein Prof. Tipler explains the Omega Point cosmology and >>>>>> the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model TOE.

    * James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's >>>>>> Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", God and >>>>>> Physics Wiki, May 12, 2019 (orig. pub. Apr. 3, 2013),
    https://megalodon.jp/2019-0512-1524-14/godandphysics.fandom.com/wiki/Tipler-Krauss_2007_Debate
    ,
    https://web.archive.org/web/20190512062421/https://godandphysics.fandom.com/wiki/Video_of_Profs._Frank_Tipler_and_Lawrence_Krauss%27s_Debate_at_Caltech:_Can_Physics_Prove_God_and_Christianity%3F
    , https://archive.is/V9njw .
    ""

    ----------------------------------------

    James Redford

    Author of The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of
    Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press, >>>>>> 2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775, ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my >>>>>> curriculum vit� (ark:/13960/t6g19878v):
    https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf ,
    https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf >>>>>
    Mr. Redford,

    What is a "singularity"? My understanding is that singularities in the >>>>> real world do not exist, as they would be "points" of finite mass in a >>>>> zero volume of space. As such, they are of infinite density, which is a >>>>> physical impossibility. And, so, how could any singularity theorems >>>>> possible lead one to conclude that there is a God. Seems to me that the >>>>> singularity theorems of Professor Penrose, Hawking, et al., are
    indicative of new physics beyond General Relativity.

    Dawn

    Hi, Dawn. Your above questions are answered in my following articles
    cited in my originating post of this thread:

    * James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of >>>> Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012
    (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708,
    https://web.archive.org/web/20150927090439/http://theophysics.host56.com/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf
    ,
    https://archive.org/download/ThePhysicsOfGodAndTheQuantumGravityTheoryOfEverything/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf
    , https://purl.org/redford/physics-of-god .

    * James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's
    Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", God and
    Physics Wiki, May 12, 2019 (orig. pub. Apr. 3, 2013),
    https://megalodon.jp/2019-0512-1524-14/godandphysics.fandom.com/wiki/Tipler-Krauss_2007_Debate
    ,
    https://web.archive.org/web/20190512062421/https://godandphysics.fandom.com/wiki/Video_of_Profs._Frank_Tipler_and_Lawrence_Krauss%27s_Debate_at_Caltech:_Can_Physics_Prove_God_and_Christianity%3F
    , https://archive.is/V9njw .

    ----------------------------------------

    James Redford

    Author of The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of
    Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press,
    2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775, ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my
    curriculum vit� (ark:/13960/t6g19878v):
    https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf ,
    https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf

    Why the Way Back Machine? Can't you find a host server and create a live >>> web page??

    In any case, you're missing my point or refusing to address it. A
    "singularity" is an actual infinite. How does a singularity transition
    from an infinite density to a finite density??

    Please explain that, and I'll take the time to read your links.

    Dawn

    See above.

    ----------------------------------------

    James Redford

    Author of The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of
    Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press,
    2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775, ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my
    curriculum vit� (ark:/13960/t6g19878v):
    https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf ,
    https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf

    Yeah, you can't answer it, can you? What is a singularity:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity

    "Gravitational singularities are mainly considered in the context of
    general relativity, where density would become infinite at the center of
    a black hole without corrections from quantum mechanics, and within >astrophysics and cosmology as the earliest state of the universe during
    the Big Bang. Physicists are undecided whether the prediction of >singularities means that they actually exist (or existed at the start of
    the Big Bang), or that current knowledge is insufficient to describe
    what happens at such extreme densities."

    Dawn

    If one is willing to violate the known laws of physics, one can derive
    any fanciful physical results one desires, such as with physicist
    Prof. Roger Penrose's conformal cyclic cosmology, which violates
    Quantum Mechanics. As I pointed out in my originating post of this
    thread:

    Unfortunately, most modern physicists have been all too willing to
    abandon the laws of physics if it produces results that they're
    uncomfortable with, i.e., in reference to religion. It's the
    antagonism for religion on the part of the scientific community which
    greatly held up the acceptance of the Big Bang (for some 40 years),
    due to said scientific community's displeasure with it confirming the traditional theological position of *creatio ex nihilo*, and also
    because no laws of physics can apply to the singularity itself: i.e.,
    quite literally, the singularity is supernatural, in the sense that no
    form of physics can apply to it, since physical values are at infinity
    at the singularity, and so it is not possible to perform arithmetical operations on them; and in the sense that the singularity is beyond
    creation, as it is not a part of spacetime, but rather is the boundary
    of space and time.

    In Prof. Stephen Hawking's book The Grand Design (New York, NY: Bantam
    Books) coauthored with physicist Dr. Leonard Mlodinow and published in
    2010, Hawking uses the String Theory extension M-Theory to argue that
    God's existence isn't necessary, although M-Theory has no
    observational evidence confirming it.

    With String Theory and other nonempirical physics, the physics
    community is reverting back to the epistemological methodology of Aristotelianism, which held to physical theories based upon *a priori* philosophical ideals. One of the *a priori* ideals held by many
    present-day physicists is that God cannot exist, and so if rejecting
    the existence of God requires rejecting empirical science, then so be
    it.

    For details on this rejection of physical law by physicists if it
    conflicts with their distaste for religion, see Sec. 5: "The Big
    Bang", pp. 28-33 of my "Physics of God" article cited above.

    The evolutionary psychological reason for the above-described bizarre
    behavior of physicists rejecting physical law when it demonstrates
    God's existence is due to the naturally-evolved Jaynesian gods of
    old--i.e., the demons--seeking to distance people from genuine
    knowledge of God so that the demons may instead falsely present
    themselves as God. Among many permutations of this, it often manifests
    as various forms of etatism: the state becomes God. Demons are quite
    real, they however exist as naturally-evolved Minskian agent subset
    programs operating on the wet-computer of the human brain. For more on
    this, see my following article:

    * James Redford, "Societal Sadomasochism", Social Science Research
    Network (SSRN), July 4, 2021 (orig. pub. May 29, 2018), 4 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.4500656, https://megalodon.jp/2023-0720-0523-07/archive.org/download/Societal-Sadomasochism/Redford-Societal-Sadomasochism.pdf
    , https://archive.org/download/Societal-Sadomasochism/Redford-Societal-Sadomasochism.pdf
    , https://www.freezepage.com/1689798200YQSGMQCYTZ .

    * * * * *

    Regarding your question on singularities and density: your struggle is
    with logic itself. But to humor you, this is how (in FriCAS notation):

    limit(1/x, x=0) = [leftHandLimit = - infinity, rightHandLimit = +
    infinity]

    That is, going backward in time toward the singularity, the density of
    the universe goes to infinity. Hence, coming out of that singularity,
    going forward in time, the universe comes from a state of infinite
    density (which is the actual singularity) and goes to states of lesser
    density as the universe expands.

    ----------------------------------------

    Jamie Michelle

    Author, under the nom de plume of James Redford, of The Physics of God
    and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press, 2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775,
    ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my curriculum vit� (ark:/13960/t6g19878v): https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf , https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Dawn Flood on Thu Feb 22 00:39:24 2024
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism

    "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:ur6jrc$3lc6r$[email protected]...

    Assuming that a "something" exists that is truly infinite,
    how does that "something" go from being infinite to being
    finite? In particular, what is the transition like between the
    boundary of infinite & finite?

    But your initial assumption may be incorrect. And most likely
    is, because it is contrary to what we know about empirical real
    world science.

    Also, any consideration that maybe a better model of reality
    can be found someday, one without infinite singularities?

    Yes, but that would only be for those who want the truth.

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