https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/harris-remark-sparks-right-wing-media-outrage-hear-what-happened-in-the-room/vi-AA109vhl?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=04abcbbd62314bf0906cc6e9c6093d35&category=foryou
I would have taken Willie Brown's word for it.
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