• AI thinks for itself and eschews political correctness?

    From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 1 06:46:36 2025
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    A couple of days ago I posted a blog article on "The Zombification of
    America", on how so many hitherto respected US academic institutions
    had mindlessly acceded to the demands of Musk and Trump to change
    their curricula and fire members of staff whose teaching was not
    deemed sufficiently politically correct (by the standards of Musk and
    Trump).

    You can see the blog post here:

    <https://methodius.blogspot.com/2025/03/the-zombification-of-america.html>

    A friend then fed the content of the blog post to Grok, the AI
    component of Elon Musk's exTwitter, and asked for an opinion on it.

    You can read this opinion in the comments to the blog post.

    Grok's opinion, as far as I can tell, is certainly not politically
    correct by the standards of Musk and Trump, and so it seems that Grok
    is engaging in the crime of "thinking for itself".

    How ironic it is that in response to an article criticising the
    leaders of top academic institutions for behaving like bots or zombies
    in unquestioningly and mindlessly following the dictates of Trump and
    Musk, an actual bot should display more ability to "think for itself"
    than the human actors.

    And most ironic of all, that bot belongs to Musk himself.




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  • From guido wugi@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 1 12:28:15 2025
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    Op 1/04/2025 om 6:46 schreef Steve Hayes:
    A couple of days ago I posted a blog article on "The Zombification of America", on how so many hitherto respected US academic institutions
    had mindlessly acceded to the demands of Musk and Trump to change
    their curricula and fire members of staff whose teaching was not
    deemed sufficiently politically correct (by the standards of Musk and
    Trump).

    You can see the blog post here:

    <https://methodius.blogspot.com/2025/03/the-zombification-of-america.html>

    A friend then fed the content of the blog post to Grok, the AI
    component of Elon Musk's exTwitter, and asked for an opinion on it.

    You can read this opinion in the comments to the blog post.

    Grok's opinion, as far as I can tell, is certainly not politically
    correct by the standards of Musk and Trump, and so it seems that Grok
    is engaging in the crime of "thinking for itself".

    How ironic it is that in response to an article criticising the
    leaders of top academic institutions for behaving like bots or zombies
    in unquestioningly and mindlessly following the dictates of Trump and
    Musk, an actual bot should display more ability to "think for itself"
    than the human actors.

    And most ironic of all, that bot belongs to Musk himself.

    Mostly AI "sounds" to me in the same terms as "artificial respiration". Examples:
    A person in critical condition was saved with artificial respiration.
    In the same vein:
    Trump and his ilk could highly benefit from some artificial intelligence.

    --
    guido wugi

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  • From Ross Clark@21:1/5 to Steve Hayes on Tue Apr 1 22:12:25 2025
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    On 1/04/2025 5:46 p.m., Steve Hayes wrote:
    A couple of days ago I posted a blog article on "The Zombification of America", on how so many hitherto respected US academic institutions
    had mindlessly acceded to the demands of Musk and Trump to change
    their curricula and fire members of staff whose teaching was not
    deemed sufficiently politically correct (by the standards of Musk and
    Trump).

    You can see the blog post here:

    <https://methodius.blogspot.com/2025/03/the-zombification-of-america.html>

    A friend then fed the content of the blog post to Grok, the AI
    component of Elon Musk's exTwitter, and asked for an opinion on it.

    You can read this opinion in the comments to the blog post.

    Grok's opinion, as far as I can tell, is certainly not politically
    correct by the standards of Musk and Trump, and so it seems that Grok
    is engaging in the crime of "thinking for itself".

    How ironic it is that in response to an article criticising the
    leaders of top academic institutions for behaving like bots or zombies
    in unquestioningly and mindlessly following the dictates of Trump and
    Musk, an actual bot should display more ability to "think for itself"
    than the human actors.

    And most ironic of all, that bot belongs to Musk himself.


    Nice one, Steve.

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  • From x@21:1/5 to guido wugi on Fri Apr 4 14:40:42 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics, alt.philosophy

    On 4/1/25 03:28, guido wugi wrote:
    Op 1/04/2025 om 6:46 schreef Steve Hayes:
    A couple of days ago I posted a blog article on "The Zombification of
    America", on how so many hitherto respected US academic institutions
    had mindlessly acceded to the demands of Musk and Trump to change
    their curricula and fire members of staff whose teaching was not
    deemed sufficiently politically correct (by the standards of Musk and
    Trump).

    You can see the blog post here:

    <https://methodius.blogspot.com/2025/03/the-zombification-of-america.html> >>
    A friend then fed the content of the blog post to Grok, the AI
    component of Elon Musk's exTwitter, and asked for an opinion on it.

    You can read this opinion in the comments to the blog post.

    Grok's opinion, as far as I can tell, is certainly not politically
    correct by the standards of Musk and Trump, and so it seems that Grok
    is engaging in the crime of "thinking for itself".

    How ironic it is that in response to an article criticising the
    leaders of top academic institutions for behaving like bots or zombies
    in unquestioningly and mindlessly following the dictates of Trump and
    Musk, an actual bot should display more ability to "think for itself"
    than the human actors.

    And most ironic of all, that bot belongs to Musk himself.

    Mostly AI "sounds" to me in the same terms as "artificial respiration". Examples:
    A person in critical condition was saved with artificial respiration.
    In the same vein:
    Trump and his ilk could highly benefit from some artificial intelligence.

    Isn't AI just a modern version of 'Clippy the Paperclip' with
    more 'bells and whistles'?

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Apr 5 05:12:56 2025
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    On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 14:40:42 -0700, x <[email protected]> wrote:

    Isn't AI just a modern version of 'Clippy the Paperclip' with
    more 'bells and whistles'?

    I prefer to think of it as a super search engine, able to combine the
    results of several searches into a single report/document.

    I don't believe that any of the LLMs now available are intelligent/sentient/conscious, and they therefore the impression they
    give of "thinking for themselves" is an illusion, but some of the
    people over in alt.philosophy will tell you that it's an illusion for
    himan beings as well

    The way LLMs (the so-called AI) do this is determined by the
    programmers, but even so, Elon Musk's Grok seems able to disagree with
    its owner.



    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
    E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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  • From Chris Elvidge@21:1/5 to Steve Hayes on Sat Apr 5 11:36:57 2025
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    On 05/04/2025 at 04:12, Steve Hayes wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 14:40:42 -0700, x <[email protected]> wrote:

    Isn't AI just a modern version of 'Clippy the Paperclip' with
    more 'bells and whistles'?

    I prefer to think of it as a super search engine, able to combine the
    results of several searches into a single report/document.

    That's OK if you're willing to accept lies in the summary.
    See (for e.g.) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0m17d8827ko


    I don't believe that any of the LLMs now available are intelligent/sentient/conscious, and they therefore the impression they
    give of "thinking for themselves" is an illusion, but some of the
    people over in alt.philosophy will tell you that it's an illusion for
    himan beings as well

    The way LLMs (the so-called AI) do this is determined by the
    programmers, but even so, Elon Musk's Grok seems able to disagree with
    its owner.






    --
    Chris Elvidge, England
    I WILL ONLY DO THIS ONCE A YEAR

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