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  • Wind Solar cheaper than Coal Nuclear

    From Transition Zone@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 3 04:11:49 2021
    Renewable Energy Prices Hit Record Lows

    Forbes - Jan 21, 2020
    -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/energyinnovation/2020/01/21/renewable-energy-prices-hit-record-lows-how-can-utilities-benefit-from-unstoppable-solar-and-wind/?sh=333852192c84

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  • From El Castor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Oct 3 11:43:02 2021
    On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 04:11:49 -0700 (PDT), Transition Zone
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Renewable Energy Prices Hit Record Lows

    Forbes - Jan 21, 2020
    -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/energyinnovation/2020/01/21/renewable-energy-prices-hit-record-lows-how-can-utilities-benefit-from-unstoppable-solar-and-wind/?sh=333852192c84

    But it comes at a price ...
    "Altamont Pass: Controversial wind turbine company blamed for bird
    deaths shutting down "
    "Alameda County surveys have estimated annual bird deaths at about
    4,500, and some biologists have speculated that the number could be
    closer to 10,000." Https://www.mercurynews.com/2015/10/30/altamont-pass-controversial-wind-turbine-company-blamed-for-bird-deaths-shutting-down/#:~:text=LIVERMORE

    The turbines are back -- a more modern design, but still killing
    birds. Oh, but solar is so much better. Not necessarily.
    "This Mojave Desert solar plant kills 6,000 birds a year. Here�s why
    that won�t change any time soon" https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-solar-bird-deaths-20160831-snap-story.html#:~:text=California%20This%20Mojave%20Desert%20solar%20plant%20kills%206%2C000,flying%20insects%20around%20the%20facility%E2%80%99s%20three%2040-story%20towers.
    There are modern nuclear designs that could safely and reliably
    produce vast amounts of electricity, but the Left will never permit
    that.

    "We can save the planet from climate change and have all the power we
    need at affordable prices. But just as the greens are against clean
    natural gas and fracking, they also oppose nuclear power.
    The radical environmentalists are insisting that the only energy
    alternative that will save the planet is wind and solar power � the
    two options guaranteed to most decelerate modern industrialization and
    economic progress across the globe.
    Perhaps that is what the far left really wants: to force mankind to
    slow down growth and human advancement. If that is their real agenda,
    then forcing businesses and families to use inferior and expensive
    energy is a smart strategy." https://www.heritage.org/nuclear-energy/commentary/why-the-greens-hate-nuclear-power

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  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 4 11:04:46 2021
    Why Coal and Nuclear Plants Kill Far More Birds than Wind
    Climate Crocks - May 20, 2013
    -- https://climatecrocks.com/2013/05/20/why-coal-and-nuclear-plants-kill-far-more-birds-than-wind-power/

    ======================================
    These things kill a lot more birds than wind turbines
    Electrek - Oct 29, 2020
    -- https://electrek.co/2020/10/29/birds-wind-turbines-trump/

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  • From El Castor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Oct 4 18:51:51 2021
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 11:04:46 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Why Coal and Nuclear Plants Kill Far More Birds than Wind
    Climate Crocks - May 20, 2013
    -- https://climatecrocks.com/2013/05/20/why-coal-and-nuclear-plants-kill-far-more-birds-than-wind-power/

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    These things kill a lot more birds than wind turbines
    Electrek - Oct 29, 2020
    -- https://electrek.co/2020/10/29/birds-wind-turbines-trump/

    Claims that nuclear plants kill more birds than wind turbines are
    based on debunked wishful thinking. Read this:

    "Nukes kill more birds than wind?" https://atomicinsights.com/nukes-kill-more-birds-than-wind/

    As for bird deaths resulting from fossil fuel and coal fired plants,
    did I make any claims in that regard?!!!

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